RE: Slightly OT: Corrupted Emails on POP Server [7:72397]
John, I too would be interested to hear the thoughts of anyone knowledgable on this. I just opened up your message after deleting the offending mail from our ISP's POP server too! One thing you can do to check out the offending mail in future is use a utility to pull down the mail called 'pullmail'. You can download it from these people: http://www.swsoft.co.uk/index.asp?page=freesoftware It runs a batch script so what you can do is start up a command prompt and run the script, it then shows the process mail by mail so you can see where it is bombing out and delete that mail only. Seems to relate quite often to the senders address, not sure why but it does. James. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72400t=72397 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Slightly OT: Corrupted Emails on POP Server [7:72397]
I ran into this problem a couple of days ago and I'm interested if anyone else has experienced something similar. I opened up my email client at home the other day and noticed that it was continually downloading the same messages over and over again. It would get to the same message each time and the POP server would stop responding and those messages were not removed from the server. So, several minutes later the cycle would repeat. I called Comcast tech support and they said that I must have a corrupted email on the server. The solution was to login with the web-based mail utility and delete the offending message. I never did figure out which message was the culprit so I deleted all of them. This has resolved the problem but I can't figure out what would have caused the problem to begin with. What sort of 'corruption' could occur to an email that would cause this sort of behavior? Thanks, John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72397t=72397 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Slightly OT: Corrupted Emails on POP Server [7:72397]
That's very interesting, and it sounds like exactly what I was experiencing. If it ever happens again I'll try harder to find the offending email to see if this is the issue. Many thanks, John Vijay Ramcharan 7/16/03 11:11:47 AM I once had a similar problem that was being caused by version 3.0x of Symantec's Antivirus/Filtering software which ran on Exchange. Our Windows users had no problems receiving mail but our Mac users ran into a problem where a message that was flagged as spam and had its body replaced was incorrectly being terminated. The user would get all messages up to the offending one but couldn't get past it. The only solution at the time was to delete the offending message using Outlook Web Access or log in using MAPI on a PC. Symantec has since corrected the problem. --- Excerpt from Symantec's Knowledge Base POP3 session hangs while retrieving mail Symptom: A POP3 mail client (for example, Outlook Express) stops responding while retrieving one or more messages that were modified by Symantec AntiVirus/Filtering for Microsoft Exchange with a text substitution. This problem only affects single-part MIME messages formatted as HTML or RTF. Microsoft Outlook and Outlook Express cannot send messages in this format, so the problem is only seen in mail sent with other mail clients. Solution: POP3 messages must end with a period (.) on a new line. When Symantec AntiVirus/Filtering for Microsoft Exchange replaces an attachment or message body, it appends a carriage return (CR) to the substituted text. However, if the source format of the message was HTML or RTF, Symantec AntiVirus/Filtering for Microsoft Exchange was converting the CR to for HTML or /par for RTF. This caused the message to hang when retrieved with a POP3 mail client, because the final period (.) was no longer on a new line. The code was fixed to add the CR after the message is converted to HTML or RTF. This ensures that the final period (.) is on a new line. Vijay Ramcharan, MCSE, CCNP/DP -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Slightly OT: Corrupted Emails on POP Server [7:72397] I ran into this problem a couple of days ago and I'm interested if anyone else has experienced something similar. I opened up my email client at home the other day and noticed that it was continually downloading the same messages over and over again. It would get to the same message each time and the POP server would stop responding and those messages were not removed from the server. So, several minutes later the cycle would repeat. I called Comcast tech support and they said that I must have a corrupted email on the server. The solution was to login with the web-based mail utility and delete the offending message. I never did figure out which message was the culprit so I deleted all of them. This has resolved the problem but I can't figure out what would have caused the problem to begin with. What sort of 'corruption' could occur to an email that would cause this sort of behavior? Thanks, John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72413t=72397 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Slightly OT: Corrupted Emails on POP Server [7:72397]
I once had a similar problem that was being caused by version 3.0x of Symantec's Antivirus/Filtering software which ran on Exchange. Our Windows users had no problems receiving mail but our Mac users ran into a problem where a message that was flagged as spam and had its body replaced was incorrectly being terminated. The user would get all messages up to the offending one but couldn't get past it. The only solution at the time was to delete the offending message using Outlook Web Access or log in using MAPI on a PC. Symantec has since corrected the problem. --- Excerpt from Symantec's Knowledge Base POP3 session hangs while retrieving mail Symptom: A POP3 mail client (for example, Outlook Express) stops responding while retrieving one or more messages that were modified by Symantec AntiVirus/Filtering for Microsoft Exchange with a text substitution. This problem only affects single-part MIME messages formatted as HTML or RTF. Microsoft Outlook and Outlook Express cannot send messages in this format, so the problem is only seen in mail sent with other mail clients. Solution: POP3 messages must end with a period (.) on a new line. When Symantec AntiVirus/Filtering for Microsoft Exchange replaces an attachment or message body, it appends a carriage return (CR) to the substituted text. However, if the source format of the message was HTML or RTF, Symantec AntiVirus/Filtering for Microsoft Exchange was converting the CR to for HTML or /par for RTF. This caused the message to hang when retrieved with a POP3 mail client, because the final period (.) was no longer on a new line. The code was fixed to add the CR after the message is converted to HTML or RTF. This ensures that the final period (.) is on a new line. Vijay Ramcharan, MCSE, CCNP/DP -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Slightly OT: Corrupted Emails on POP Server [7:72397] I ran into this problem a couple of days ago and I'm interested if anyone else has experienced something similar. I opened up my email client at home the other day and noticed that it was continually downloading the same messages over and over again. It would get to the same message each time and the POP server would stop responding and those messages were not removed from the server. So, several minutes later the cycle would repeat. I called Comcast tech support and they said that I must have a corrupted email on the server. The solution was to login with the web-based mail utility and delete the offending message. I never did figure out which message was the culprit so I deleted all of them. This has resolved the problem but I can't figure out what would have caused the problem to begin with. What sort of 'corruption' could occur to an email that would cause this sort of behavior? Thanks, John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72405t=72397 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slightly OT: Corrupted Emails on POP Server [7:72397]
begin vent-- I am having continuing problems with comcast -- attbi was a *whole* lot better. My NAV has trouble scanning incoming or outgoing mail, though ZoneAlarm's MailSafe function has zero trouble. Oddly, my Outlook has tons more problems than my husband's Eudora client, though he also uses NAV. I expect to switch to another mail server and use comcast as nothing more than a dumb pipe. I think they may be able to handle that. --end vent Annlee James Gosnold wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] John, I too would be interested to hear the thoughts of anyone knowledgable on this. I just opened up your message after deleting the offending mail from our ISP's POP server too! One thing you can do to check out the offending mail in future is use a utility to pull down the mail called 'pullmail'. You can download it from these people: http://www.swsoft.co.uk/index.asp?page=freesoftware It runs a batch script so what you can do is start up a command prompt and run the script, it then shows the process mail by mail so you can see where it is bombing out and delete that mail only. Seems to relate quite often to the senders address, not sure why but it does. James. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72429t=72397 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slightly OT: Corrupted Emails on POP Server [7:72397]
Did you download the transition software? :-) Other than this odd problem I haven't had any issues since the transition. I wasn't impressed with the amount of time I spent waiting for support, though. John annlee 7/16/03 3:38:55 PM begin vent-- I am having continuing problems with comcast -- attbi was a *whole* lot better. My NAV has trouble scanning incoming or outgoing mail, though ZoneAlarm's MailSafe function has zero trouble. Oddly, my Outlook has tons more problems than my husband's Eudora client, though he also uses NAV. I expect to switch to another mail server and use comcast as nothing more than a dumb pipe. I think they may be able to handle that. --end vent Annlee James Gosnold wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] John, I too would be interested to hear the thoughts of anyone knowledgable on this. I just opened up your message after deleting the offending mail from our ISP's POP server too! One thing you can do to check out the offending mail in future is use a utility to pull down the mail called 'pullmail'. You can download it from these people: http://www.swsoft.co.uk/index.asp?page=freesoftware It runs a batch script so what you can do is start up a command prompt and run the script, it then shows the process mail by mail so you can see where it is bombing out and delete that mail only. Seems to relate quite often to the senders address, not sure why but it does. James. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72435t=72397 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slightly OT: Corrupted Emails on POP Server [7:72397]
I did, though it turned out to be only for Outlook Express. However, I configured Outlook per their mail account settings--but, like you, I find their customer service to be an oxymoron. Annlee John Neiberger wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you download the transition software? :-) Other than this odd problem I haven't had any issues since the transition. I wasn't impressed with the amount of time I spent waiting for support, though. John annlee 7/16/03 3:38:55 PM begin vent-- I am having continuing problems with comcast -- attbi was a *whole* lot better. My NAV has trouble scanning incoming or outgoing mail, though ZoneAlarm's MailSafe function has zero trouble. Oddly, my Outlook has tons more problems than my husband's Eudora client, though he also uses NAV. I expect to switch to another mail server and use comcast as nothing more than a dumb pipe. I think they may be able to handle that. --end vent Annlee James Gosnold wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] John, I too would be interested to hear the thoughts of anyone knowledgable on this. I just opened up your message after deleting the offending mail from our ISP's POP server too! One thing you can do to check out the offending mail in future is use a utility to pull down the mail called 'pullmail'. You can download it from these people: http://www.swsoft.co.uk/index.asp?page=freesoftware It runs a batch script so what you can do is start up a command prompt and run the script, it then shows the process mail by mail so you can see where it is bombing out and delete that mail only. Seems to relate quite often to the senders address, not sure why but it does. James. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72444t=72397 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slightly OT: Corrupted Emails on POP Server [7:72397]
At 12:05 AM + 7/17/03, annlee wrote: I did, though it turned out to be only for Outlook Express. However, I configured Outlook per their mail account settings--but, like you, I find their customer service to be an oxymoron. Annlee I've done enough escalation and schmoozing in Comcast customer support to learn that the customer service people have no access to operations/server people except through email. It also appears that their premium pro service was never staffed adequately, so you get the people with is your computer on rather than this is what your SMTP is doing wrong. Their business grade customer support is OK. When funds permit, I may very well upgrade to that, as well as trying some reorganized DSL providers. John Neiberger wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you download the transition software? :-) Other than this odd problem I haven't had any issues since the transition. I wasn't impressed with the amount of time I spent waiting for support, though. John annlee 7/16/03 3:38:55 PM begin vent-- I am having continuing problems with comcast -- attbi was a *whole* lot better. My NAV has trouble scanning incoming or outgoing mail, though ZoneAlarm's MailSafe function has zero trouble. Oddly, my Outlook has tons more problems than my husband's Eudora client, though he also uses NAV. Do you really expect anyone to get involved with fingerpointing between spousal computers? It certainly wasn't the only reason, but providing tech support to ex#2 was probably a contributing factor to the divorce. I expect to switch to another mail server and use comcast as nothing more than a dumb pipe. I think they may be able to handle that. --end vent Annlee James Gosnold wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] John, I too would be interested to hear the thoughts of anyone knowledgable on this. I just opened up your message after deleting the offending mail from our ISP's POP server too! One thing you can do to check out the offending mail in future is use a utility to pull down the mail called 'pullmail'. You can download it from these people: http://www.swsoft.co.uk/index.asp?page=freesoftware It runs a batch script so what you can do is start up a command prompt and run the script, it then shows the process mail by mail so you can see where it is bombing out and delete that mail only. Seems to relate quite often to the senders address, not sure why but it does. James. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72449t=72397 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]