RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
Pete, care to join me in my crusade to stop stamp out any and all references to OSPF virtual links as tunnels? ;- Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Slow Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] YES! Yes they do! So does juniper in all of their manuals. and in their configs as well. they are wrong also! We must keep these evil minions at bay. All! Join me! -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] Does the IEEE get it wrong? Check IEEE 802.1D, the bridging standard. It uses ports for the physical interfaces on a bridge (switch). Priscilla At 01:08 PM 8/22/01, Peter Slow wrote: an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16975t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
The official terminology is ports are in layer two devices such as switches and interfaces are in layer three devices such as in routers... Peter Slow wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16990t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
There is no official terminology. That's the bottom line. Priscilla At 11:58 AM 8/23/01, Dennis H wrote: The official terminology is ports are in layer two devices such as switches and interfaces are in layer three devices such as in routers... Peter Slow wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17020t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
Sorry to say official. How bout according to Cisco, Bruce Caslow, etc... the terminology is ports are contained in layer two devices such as switches and interfaces are in layer three devices such as in routers. Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... There is no official terminology. That's the bottom line. Priscilla At 11:58 AM 8/23/01, Dennis H wrote: The official terminology is ports are in layer two devices such as switches and interfaces are in layer three devices such as in routers... Peter Slow wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17039t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
Will you people get over it already. I have ports and interfaces oozing out of my ears...:)- Naim Kazan Fidelity Investments FISC-T [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dennis H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 3:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] Sorry to say official. How bout according to Cisco, Bruce Caslow, etc... the terminology is ports are contained in layer two devices such as switches and interfaces are in layer three devices such as in routers. Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... There is no official terminology. That's the bottom line. Priscilla At 11:58 AM 8/23/01, Dennis H wrote: The official terminology is ports are in layer two devices such as switches and interfaces are in layer three devices such as in routers... Peter Slow wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17048t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
I'm sorry, but I am finding this a bit warped because there are two quite different things being debated. 1. The syntax expected by the command interpreter on various Cisco boxes. Indeed, that discussion hasn't even covered the bases. How about line aux 0 int async 0 2. The architectural distinction between endpoints at various layers. ISO 7498, the OSI reference model, does not use either the term port or the term interface. In fact, it doesn't deal with physical specifications at all. If one consulted the ISO Internal Organization of the Network Layer document, the closest you might get is an abstraction called a Subnetwork Point of Attachment (SNPA), for which there would be an SNPA-address. That's more or less at the port level. The IP equivalent would be more like the Network Service Access Point (NSAP) and NSAP-address. But OSI isn't IP. For IP, the relevant document would be RFC 2863 The Interfaces Group MIB., and possibly RFC 1812. In a Cisco specific context, an interface is something represented by an Interface Descriptor Block. See Inside Cisco's IOS Software Architecture. Incidentally, this book does not use the term port in a general way, only with respect to such things as 7200 series port adapters. === For people trying to pass certification exams, I strongly recommend that you learn the appropriate command syntax for devices you expect to be tested on. In the absence of a quotable Cisco document that gives a Cisco-specific definition, I advise people to go to source documents. Don't argue what Berkowitz or Oppenheimer or Caslow or whomsoever say in their books, unless they are citing a well-understood IETF, ITU, ISO, etc. standard. Sorry to say official. How bout according to Cisco, Bruce Caslow, etc... the terminology is ports are contained in layer two devices such as switches and interfaces are in layer three devices such as in routers. Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... There is no official terminology. That's the bottom line. Priscilla At 11:58 AM 8/23/01, Dennis H wrote: The official terminology is ports are in layer two devices such as switches and interfaces are in layer three devices such as in routers... Peter Slow wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17054t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16843t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
Uh, I think you meant UDP ports!!! If you are going to get on peoples cases for being wrong, at least try and be correct ;) No offense of course :) -Original Message- From: Peter Slow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16850t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
Does the IEEE get it wrong? Check IEEE 802.1D, the bridging standard. It uses ports for the physical interfaces on a bridge (switch). Priscilla At 01:08 PM 8/22/01, Peter Slow wrote: an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16857t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
Well, I see the terminology police are at it again Peter Slow wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16860t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
Yipes! Yer right! I meant UDP! No offense taken, and in my opinion nothing said on this news grop should be taken personally unless explicity stated that doing so should be done. (huh?) -humboldt -Original Message- From: Marshal Schoener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] Uh, I think you meant UDP ports!!! If you are going to get on peoples cases for being wrong, at least try and be correct ;) No offense of course :) -Original Message- From: Peter Slow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16859t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
Then why are they called port adapters you know slot/adapter/port serial 0/1/2 would be in the first slot second adapter third port that is where i would interface my cable coming from the dsu 30 minutes to the big seat - the written 8 months to the big stand - the lab and there i go goofing around on this list - Original Message - From: Peter Slow To: Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:08 AM Subject: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16867t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
YES! Yes they do! So does juniper in all of their manuals. and in their configs as well. they are wrong also! We must keep these evil minions at bay. All! Join me! -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] Does the IEEE get it wrong? Check IEEE 802.1D, the bridging standard. It uses ports for the physical interfaces on a bridge (switch). Priscilla At 01:08 PM 8/22/01, Peter Slow wrote: an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16869t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
What would you consider interface s0.100 to be? Seems pretty logical to me. I think you'll find that both the terms interface and port have context sensitive meanings. If you've ever configured a 3Com netbuilder you'll be even more convinced of this. I missed the rest of the thread, but I don't see how using a term one way or another makes one a dork even though I believe strongly in technical accuracy. Nor do I see how inferring that people are spineless dorks contributes positively to the learning process. Pete *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/22/2001 at 1:08 PM Peter Slow wrote: an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16870t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
Here's how I like to deal with questions like this: Will knowing the answer ever help you troubleshoot a problem? Oh, geez, I know what I've been doing wrong - I've been calling it a *port* when it's really an *interface*!! I'll have it up in a few seconds, sorry about that ;-) -Original Message- From: Peter Van Oene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] What would you consider interface s0.100 to be? Seems pretty logical to me. I think you'll find that both the terms interface and port have context sensitive meanings. If you've ever configured a 3Com netbuilder you'll be even more convinced of this. I missed the rest of the thread, but I don't see how using a term one way or another makes one a dork even though I believe strongly in technical accuracy. Nor do I see how inferring that people are spineless dorks contributes positively to the learning process. Pete *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/22/2001 at 1:08 PM Peter Slow wrote: an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16872t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
and act on or communicate with each other Port: a hardware interface by which a computer communicates with another device or system So who really decided which was more correct--interface or port? Who set that standard? When you talk about BRI on a router, is it a Basic Rate Interface Interface or is it a Basic Rate Interface Port that you connect to? Food for thought. 1. Gigabit Ethernet Port Adapter (PA-GE) (7100 and 7200VXR only) The single port Gigabit Ethernet Port Adapter (PA-GE) provides a Gigabit Ethernet connection for the Cisco 7200 series router. 2. Verify the IP Address of the Router Ethernet Port To verify the IP address, enter the show interface e0 command on the command line. For example: Routershow interface e0 Ethernet0 is up, line protocol is down Hardware is PQUICC Ethernet, address is 0003.6bdc.0435 (bia 0003.6bdc.0435) Internet address is 10.10.10.1/24 3. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/1000.pdf Don't we have other things more important in our lives than correcting each other's English based on our limited version of what we perceive is correct? And if you must finish this argument, I would ask that you provide the source of the original definition that interface has been defined to be the only correct term to refer to a hardware-based network connection point? Who has actually defined that interface is the only correct term? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Slow Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] YES! Yes they do! So does juniper in all of their manuals. and in their configs as well. they are wrong also! We must keep these evil minions at bay. All! Join me! -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] Does the IEEE get it wrong? Check IEEE 802.1D, the bridging standard. It uses ports for the physical interfaces on a bridge (switch). Priscilla At 01:08 PM 8/22/01, Peter Slow wrote: an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16874t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
yeah, but i grew up getting slapped around everytime i referred to it as a port. i have interface embedded in my language =) we can stop this thread though, i suppose, instead of starting a holy war =) -Original Message- From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:03 PM To: Peter Slow; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] Interface: the place at which independent and often unrelated systems meet and act on or communicate with each other Port: a hardware interface by which a computer communicates with another device or system So who really decided which was more correct--interface or port? Who set that standard? When you talk about BRI on a router, is it a Basic Rate Interface Interface or is it a Basic Rate Interface Port that you connect to? Food for thought. 1. Gigabit Ethernet Port Adapter (PA-GE) (7100 and 7200VXR only) The single port Gigabit Ethernet Port Adapter (PA-GE) provides a Gigabit Ethernet connection for the Cisco 7200 series router. 2. Verify the IP Address of the Router Ethernet Port To verify the IP address, enter the show interface e0 command on the command line. For example: Routershow interface e0 Ethernet0 is up, line protocol is down Hardware is PQUICC Ethernet, address is 0003.6bdc.0435 (bia 0003.6bdc.0435) Internet address is 10.10.10.1/24 3. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/1000.pdf Don't we have other things more important in our lives than correcting each other's English based on our limited version of what we perceive is correct? And if you must finish this argument, I would ask that you provide the source of the original definition that interface has been defined to be the only correct term to refer to a hardware-based network connection point? Who has actually defined that interface is the only correct term? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Slow Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] YES! Yes they do! So does juniper in all of their manuals. and in their configs as well. they are wrong also! We must keep these evil minions at bay. All! Join me! -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] Does the IEEE get it wrong? Check IEEE 802.1D, the bridging standard. It uses ports for the physical interfaces on a bridge (switch). Priscilla At 01:08 PM 8/22/01, Peter Slow wrote: an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16876t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
You should get slapped around for not capitalizing the first letter of a sentence or the word I, and for not using punctuation properly. Let he who is without grammatical error cast the first misplaced modifier. -Original Message- From: Peter Slow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:27 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] yeah, but i grew up getting slapped around everytime i referred to it as a port. i have interface embedded in my language =) we can stop this thread though, i suppose, instead of starting a holy war =) -Original Message- From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:03 PM To: Peter Slow; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] Interface: the place at which independent and often unrelated systems meet and act on or communicate with each other Port: a hardware interface by which a computer communicates with another device or system So who really decided which was more correct--interface or port? Who set that standard? When you talk about BRI on a router, is it a Basic Rate Interface Interface or is it a Basic Rate Interface Port that you connect to? Food for thought. 1. Gigabit Ethernet Port Adapter (PA-GE) (7100 and 7200VXR only) The single port Gigabit Ethernet Port Adapter (PA-GE) provides a Gigabit Ethernet connection for the Cisco 7200 series router. 2. Verify the IP Address of the Router Ethernet Port To verify the IP address, enter the show interface e0 command on the command line. For example: Routershow interface e0 Ethernet0 is up, line protocol is down Hardware is PQUICC Ethernet, address is 0003.6bdc.0435 (bia 0003.6bdc.0435) Internet address is 10.10.10.1/24 3. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/1000.pdf Don't we have other things more important in our lives than correcting each other's English based on our limited version of what we perceive is correct? And if you must finish this argument, I would ask that you provide the source of the original definition that interface has been defined to be the only correct term to refer to a hardware-based network connection point? Who has actually defined that interface is the only correct term? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Slow Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] YES! Yes they do! So does juniper in all of their manuals. and in their configs as well. they are wrong also! We must keep these evil minions at bay. All! Join me! -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] Does the IEEE get it wrong? Check IEEE 802.1D, the bridging standard. It uses ports for the physical interfaces on a bridge (switch). Priscilla At 01:08 PM 8/22/01, Peter Slow wrote: an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16877t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
I am not without grammatical error. never said i was. BUT, If i say interface 3, you know im taking about an interface. if i say port 3, you have no idea what layer im at, do you? -Original Message- From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:27 PM To: Peter Slow; Cisco@Groupstudy. Com Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] You should get slapped around for not capitalizing the first letter of a sentence or the word I, and for not using punctuation properly. Let he who is without grammatical error cast the first misplaced modifier. -Original Message- From: Peter Slow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:27 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] yeah, but i grew up getting slapped around everytime i referred to it as a port. i have interface embedded in my language =) we can stop this thread though, i suppose, instead of starting a holy war =) -Original Message- From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:03 PM To: Peter Slow; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] Interface: the place at which independent and often unrelated systems meet and act on or communicate with each other Port: a hardware interface by which a computer communicates with another device or system So who really decided which was more correct--interface or port? Who set that standard? When you talk about BRI on a router, is it a Basic Rate Interface Interface or is it a Basic Rate Interface Port that you connect to? Food for thought. 1. Gigabit Ethernet Port Adapter (PA-GE) (7100 and 7200VXR only) The single port Gigabit Ethernet Port Adapter (PA-GE) provides a Gigabit Ethernet connection for the Cisco 7200 series router. 2. Verify the IP Address of the Router Ethernet Port To verify the IP address, enter the show interface e0 command on the command line. For example: Routershow interface e0 Ethernet0 is up, line protocol is down Hardware is PQUICC Ethernet, address is 0003.6bdc.0435 (bia 0003.6bdc.0435) Internet address is 10.10.10.1/24 3. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/1000.pdf Don't we have other things more important in our lives than correcting each other's English based on our limited version of what we perceive is correct? And if you must finish this argument, I would ask that you provide the source of the original definition that interface has been defined to be the only correct term to refer to a hardware-based network connection point? Who has actually defined that interface is the only correct term? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Slow Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] YES! Yes they do! So does juniper in all of their manuals. and in their configs as well. they are wrong also! We must keep these evil minions at bay. All! Join me! -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] Does the IEEE get it wrong? Check IEEE 802.1D, the bridging standard. It uses ports for the physical interfaces on a bridge (switch). Priscilla At 01:08 PM 8/22/01, Peter Slow wrote: an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16879t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
Well, you have me there. I know you're talking about layer 2 because my Catalyst 1900 tells me so. Switch1924#show interface ethernet 0/1 Ethernet 0/1 is Suspended-no-linkbeat Hardware is Built-in 10Base-T Address is 00B0.64D1.F741 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1 Kbits 802.1d STP State: Forwarding Forward Transitions: 1 Port monitoring: Disabled Unknown unicast flooding: Enabled Unregistered multicast flooding: Enabled Description: Duplex setting: Half duplex Back pressure: Disabled -Original Message- From: Peter Slow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:35 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Cisco@Groupstudy. Com Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] I am not without grammatical error. never said i was. BUT, If i say interface 3, you know im taking about an interface. if i say port 3, you have no idea what layer im at, do you? -Original Message- From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:27 PM To: Peter Slow; Cisco@Groupstudy. Com Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] You should get slapped around for not capitalizing the first letter of a sentence or the word I, and for not using punctuation properly. Let he who is without grammatical error cast the first misplaced modifier. -Original Message- From: Peter Slow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:27 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] yeah, but i grew up getting slapped around everytime i referred to it as a port. i have interface embedded in my language =) we can stop this thread though, i suppose, instead of starting a holy war =) -Original Message- From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:03 PM To: Peter Slow; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] Interface: the place at which independent and often unrelated systems meet and act on or communicate with each other Port: a hardware interface by which a computer communicates with another device or system So who really decided which was more correct--interface or port? Who set that standard? When you talk about BRI on a router, is it a Basic Rate Interface Interface or is it a Basic Rate Interface Port that you connect to? Food for thought. 1. Gigabit Ethernet Port Adapter (PA-GE) (7100 and 7200VXR only) The single port Gigabit Ethernet Port Adapter (PA-GE) provides a Gigabit Ethernet connection for the Cisco 7200 series router. 2. Verify the IP Address of the Router Ethernet Port To verify the IP address, enter the show interface e0 command on the command line. For example: Routershow interface e0 Ethernet0 is up, line protocol is down Hardware is PQUICC Ethernet, address is 0003.6bdc.0435 (bia 0003.6bdc.0435) Internet address is 10.10.10.1/24 3. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/1000.pdf Don't we have other things more important in our lives than correcting each other's English based on our limited version of what we perceive is correct? And if you must finish this argument, I would ask that you provide the source of the original definition that interface has been defined to be the only correct term to refer to a hardware-based network connection point? Who has actually defined that interface is the only correct term? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Slow Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] YES! Yes they do! So does juniper in all of their manuals. and in their configs as well. they are wrong also! We must keep these evil minions at bay. All! Join me! -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] Does the IEEE get it wrong? Check IEEE 802.1D, the bridging standard. It uses ports for the physical interfaces on a bridge (switch). Priscilla At 01:08 PM 8/22/01, Peter Slow wrote: an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16882t=16843
RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
And if I use a word that sounds like too, how do you know if I'm saying to, two, or two? Context!! If you say port, I might think you're either referring to a place where boats tie up to docks or you might be discussing wine. Or you could be porting software from one platform to another. Then again, if I'm chatting with my neighbor in the next cubicle over, are we interfacing or porting? Interfacing, I hope. If we're porting my wife will kill me! What about GUIs? They're not physical, they're logical. The point is that context is everything and if you refer to the physical connector as either an interface or a port, we'll all understand what you're referring to. Ok, enough of that thread (or is it string??) ;-) John Peter Slow 8/22/01 1:47:40 PM I am not without grammatical error. never said i was. BUT, If i say interface 3, you know im taking about an interface. if i say port 3, you have no idea what layer im at, do you? -Original Message- From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:27 PM To: Peter Slow; Cisco@Groupstudy. Com Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] You should get slapped around for not capitalizing the first letter of a sentence or the word I, and for not using punctuation properly. Let he who is without grammatical error cast the first misplaced modifier. -Original Message- From: Peter Slow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:27 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] yeah, but i grew up getting slapped around everytime i referred to it as a port. i have interface embedded in my language =) we can stop this thread though, i suppose, instead of starting a holy war =) -Original Message- From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:03 PM To: Peter Slow; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] Interface: the place at which independent and often unrelated systems meet and act on or communicate with each other Port: a hardware interface by which a computer communicates with another device or system So who really decided which was more correct--interface or port? Who set that standard? When you talk about BRI on a router, is it a Basic Rate Interface Interface or is it a Basic Rate Interface Port that you connect to? Food for thought. 1. Gigabit Ethernet Port Adapter (PA-GE) (7100 and 7200VXR only) The single port Gigabit Ethernet Port Adapter (PA-GE) provides a Gigabit Ethernet connection for the Cisco 7200 series router. 2. Verify the IP Address of the Router Ethernet Port To verify the IP address, enter the show interface e0 command on the command line. For example: Routershow interface e0 Ethernet0 is up, line protocol is down Hardware is PQUICC Ethernet, address is 0003.6bdc.0435 (bia 0003.6bdc.0435) Internet address is 10.10.10.1/24 3. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/1000.pdf Don't we have other things more important in our lives than correcting each other's English based on our limited version of what we perceive is correct? And if you must finish this argument, I would ask that you provide the source of the original definition that interface has been defined to be the only correct term to refer to a hardware-based network connection point? Who has actually defined that interface is the only correct term? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Slow Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] YES! Yes they do! So does juniper in all of their manuals. and in their configs as well. they are wrong also! We must keep these evil minions at bay. All! Join me! -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843] Does the IEEE get it wrong? Check IEEE 802.1D, the bridging standard. It uses ports for the physical interfaces on a bridge (switch). Priscilla At 01:08 PM 8/22/01, Peter Slow wrote: an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted
Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
What would you consider interface s0.100 to be? Seems pretty logical to me. I think you'll find that both the terms interface and port have context sensitive meanings. If you've ever configured a 3Com netbuilder you'll be even more convinced of this. I missed the rest of the thread, but I don't see how using a term one way or another makes one a dork even though I believe strongly in technical accuracy. Nor do I see how inferring that people are spineless dorks contributes positively to the learning process. Pete I don't know...wouldn't a spineless dork be just the person to maintain a network with no backbone? *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/22/2001 at 1:08 PM Peter Slow wrote: an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. Not necessarily. It is a level of abstraction, can include inverse multiplexed bundles, time slots in multiplexed bundles, VLANs, lambdas, etc. In a Cisco specific context, it is something represented by an Interface Descriptor Block. See Inside Cisco's IOS Software Architecture. For a more general view, see RFC 2863 The Interfaces Group MIB. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Formally, the term port here would more correctly be called a transport layer identifier in most protocol architectures. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16897t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]
Hi, ' Well whilst on about ports. How about TCP sockets at least at one stage they used to be. Once upon a time you referred to a funny D shaped thing with 25 little holes in it as an RS232 serial port. Another with 15 pins as an AUI port. Yes Cisco refer to them as interfaces but others do call them ports. The trick here as I see it is to understand what you really are looking at after all a rose is a rose . Just some views, Teunis, Hobart, Tasmania Australia On Wednesday, August 22, 2001 at 02:55:41 PM, Peter Van Oene wrote: What would you consider interface s0.100 to be? Seems pretty logical to me. I think you'll find that both the terms interface and port have context sensitive meanings. If you've ever configured a 3Com netbuilder you'll be even more convinced of this. I missed the rest of the thread, but I don't see how using a term one way or another makes one a dork even though I believe strongly in technical accuracy. Nor do I see how inferring that people are spineless dorks contributes positively to the learning process. Pete *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/22/2001 at 1:08 PM Peter Slow wrote: an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly! c3660#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0 ^ % Invalid input detected at '^' marker. c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0 c3660(config-if)#^Z c3660#SEE!? % Unrecognized command c3660#SEE! -humboldt -- www.tasmail.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16904t=16843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
