Token Ring Problem

2001-03-29 Thread Vincent

Hi;

My cisco 2521 token ring interface has problme, the interface keep
intialize, never up.
Would like to hear an advice?

2:51:25: %TR-3-OPENFAIL: Unit 0, open failed: Phys. Insertion, ring
beaconing
02:51:25: %TR-3-BADSTART: Unit 0, Start completion and wrong idb state -
state=
0
02:51:26: TR0: reset from 305116C
02:51:26: TR0: txtmr: 0x0, msclk: 0x9CF444, qt: 0x3471AC (6849172ms)
starting.
02:51:48: %TR-3-OPENFAIL: Unit 0, open failed: Phys. Insertion, ring
beaconing
02:51:48: %TR-3-BADSTART: Unit 0, Start completion and wrong idb state -
state=
0
02:51:49: TR0: reset from 305116C
02:51:49: TR0: txtmr: 0x0, msclk: 0x9D5028, qt: 0x3471AC (6872696ms)
starting.

Thanks
Vincent


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Token Ring Problem

2000-08-30 Thread Peter Gray

Can I connect Token Ring Interface on my router directly to LAM Port?? I 
have tried it but it shows down/down status on the router. Initially I tried 
it by putting a TR hub b/w Router & LAM. And it worked fine.

Is there any issue connecting Router directly to LAM Port?


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Token Ring Problem

2000-08-31 Thread Peter Gray

Can I connect Token Ring Interface on my router directly to LAM Port?? I 
have tried it but it shows down/down status on the router. Initially I tried 
it by putting a TR hub b/w Router & LAM. And it worked fine.
Is there any issue connecting Router directly to LAM Port?



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Re: Token Ring Problem

2001-03-30 Thread Vincent

Thanks all!  Problem fixed.

Just follow cisco recommendation and it works.





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RE: Token Ring Problem

2000-08-31 Thread Dave Hennen

I don't understand your term "LAM"  can you expand on what that means?

If it refers to a Ring-In Ring-Out port, then no you can't connect a router
to that.  Assuming your cabling is good you should be able to conenct a
router to any other port, unless the port is disabled or something.  

Is it an active or passive MAU, what is it?  If it's active you might be
able to get some info from status lights...

daveh



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Can I connect Token Ring Interface on my router directly to LAM Port?? I 
have tried it but it shows down/down status on the router. Initially I tried

it by putting a TR hub b/w Router & LAM. And it worked fine.
Is there any issue connecting Router directly to LAM Port?



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Token Ring problem [7:27177]

2001-11-23 Thread Fanglo MA

Hi ALL,

I have been trapped by a Tokenring problem and seek for anyone
suggestions. I have token ring router and a Linux connected with a HP TR
Hub. From the indicator on the TR Hub I have told the connection and ring
insertion is ok. However, I can't ping from Linux box to the router. My
router does not have problem to ping to another 2502. All interfaces and
NIC are in same network/mask. From the router I obtain the mac address
correctly by sh arp except we can't ping !!!

Any idea?

Regards,
Fanglo




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token ring problem - URGENT [7:3596]

2001-05-08 Thread Andrew Larkins

What causes a CRC error on the token ring port and what is a soft error


JOHANNESBURG#sho int to 0/0
TokenRing0/0 is up, line protocol is up 
  Hardware is IBM2692, address is 0007.7829.1b43 (bia 0007.7829.1b43)
  Internet address is x.x.x.x
  MTU 8136 bytes, BW 16000 Kbit, DLY 630 usec, 
 reliability 255/255, txload 3/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation SNAP, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  ARP type: SNAP, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Ring speed: 16 Mbps
  Duplex: half
  Mode: Classic token ring station
  Source bridging enabled, srn 1025 bn 1 trn 1997 (ring group)
spanning explorer enabled
  Group Address: 0x, Functional Address: 0x0880001A
  Ethernet Transit OUI: 0x00
  Last Ring Status 00:00:08  (0x2000)
  Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:04:36
  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue :0/40 (size/max)
  5 minute input rate 63000 bits/sec, 53 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 193000 bits/sec, 49 packets/sec
 15161 packets input, 2224430 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 1304 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 60 input errors, 60 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
 15150 packets output, 8156480 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
 0 transitions


Thanks

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Re: Token Ring problem [7:27177]

2001-11-23 Thread Ken Diliberto

Hello, Fanglo.

Are there only two devices on the Token Ring?  If not, does anything else
work?

What does the ARP table on the router and the Linux box look like?

What do the interface parameters on the Linux box look like (ifconfig -a)?

What does show interface tr0 show on the router?

Ken

>>> "Fanglo MA"  11/23/01 02:37AM >>>
Hi ALL,

I have been trapped by a Tokenring problem and seek for anyone
suggestions. I have token ring router and a Linux connected with a HP TR
Hub. From the indicator on the TR Hub I have told the connection and ring
insertion is ok. However, I can't ping from Linux box to the router. My
router does not have problem to ping to another 2502. All interfaces and
NIC are in same network/mask. From the router I obtain the mac address
correctly by sh arp except we can't ping !!!

Any idea?

Regards,
Fanglo




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Re: Token Ring problem [7:27177]

2001-11-26 Thread Fanglo MA

Sorry for late reply. My Linux gone down in the previous two days so I am
disconnected from mail. The token ring display in my box is the actual
one. After re-plugging my token ring and removing my sound card I'm back
with the token ring lan. However, I do have connected with the old config
but with the MTU displayed as 1500, while all the router interfaces use
4464. Does this matter in the ping action? As I know, the MTU setting will
only be matter in segmentation. Does I miss something?

Regards,
Fanglo

On Fri, 23 Nov 2001, Ken Diliberto wrote:

> Hello, Fanglo.
>
> Are there only two devices on the Token Ring?  If not, does anything else
work?
>
> What does the ARP table on the router and the Linux box look like?
>
> What do the interface parameters on the Linux box look like (ifconfig -a)?
>
> What does show interface tr0 show on the router?
>
> Ken
>
> >>> "Fanglo MA"  11/23/01 02:37AM >>>
> Hi ALL,
>
> I have been trapped by a Tokenring problem and seek for anyone
> suggestions. I have token ring router and a Linux connected with a HP TR
> Hub. From the indicator on the TR Hub I have told the connection and ring
> insertion is ok. However, I can't ping from Linux box to the router. My
> router does not have problem to ping to another 2502. All interfaces and
> NIC are in same network/mask. From the router I obtain the mac address
> correctly by sh arp except we can't ping !!!
>
> Any idea?
>
> Regards,
> Fanglo




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Token Ring Tool WAS Token Ring Problem

2001-03-29 Thread Daniel Cotts

I've heard about those zapper tools for MAUs but have never seen one. Is
there an official name for it? Any manufacturer or part number? Might be
worth finding on eBay. I have several old MAUs that I haven't tested.
TIA
> -Original Message-
> From: ElephantChild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
> Typical causes, in no particular order, are:
> 
> - Stuck relay, if you're using an old mechanical MAU, eg a 8228. If
>   that's the problem, just phaser the relay unstuck.
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Re: token ring problem - URGENT [7:3596]

2001-05-08 Thread Vincent Chong

Hi;

You should use show controller token to determine how many Soft Errors and
types of soft error

Soft errors:  2 Types: Isolating and Non-isolating soft error.

Isolating soft error: the NAUN in the soft error report frame is irrelevant.

Types: Line error (CRC error, illegal bit find in Token or frame), Internal
error, Burst Error, ARI/FCI error

Non-isolating soft error:  Cannot be isolated to a station and the stations
NAUN or the cabling between them.

Types: Lost frame, copy error, receive congested,  token error, frequency
error.

The cyclic redundancy checksum generated by the originating LAN station or
far-end device does not match the checksum calculated from the data
received. On a LAN, this usually indicates noise or transmission problems on
the LAN interface or the LAN bus itself. A high number of CRCs is usually
the result of a station transmitting bad data.

HTH

Vincent Chong


""Andrew Larkins""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> What causes a CRC error on the token ring port and what is a soft
error
>
>
> JOHANNESBURG#sho int to 0/0
> TokenRing0/0 is up, line protocol is up
>   Hardware is IBM2692, address is 0007.7829.1b43 (bia 0007.7829.1b43)
>   Internet address is x.x.x.x
>   MTU 8136 bytes, BW 16000 Kbit, DLY 630 usec,
>  reliability 255/255, txload 3/255, rxload 1/255
>   Encapsulation SNAP, loopback not set
>   Keepalive set (10 sec)
>   ARP type: SNAP, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
>   Ring speed: 16 Mbps
>   Duplex: half
>   Mode: Classic token ring station
>   Source bridging enabled, srn 1025 bn 1 trn 1997 (ring group)
> spanning explorer enabled
>   Group Address: 0x, Functional Address: 0x0880001A
>   Ethernet Transit OUI: 0x00
>   Last Ring Status 00:00:08  (0x2000)
>   Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
>   Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:04:36
>   Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
>   Queueing strategy: fifo
>   Output queue :0/40 (size/max)
>   5 minute input rate 63000 bits/sec, 53 packets/sec
>   5 minute output rate 193000 bits/sec, 49 packets/sec
>  15161 packets input, 2224430 bytes, 0 no buffer
>  Received 1304 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
>  60 input errors, 60 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
>  15150 packets output, 8156480 bytes, 0 underruns
>  0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
>  0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
>  0 transitions
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Andrew
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Re: token ring problem - URGENT [7:3596]

2001-05-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 10:19 AM 5/8/01, Vincent Chong wrote:
>Hi;
>
>You should use show controller token to determine how many Soft Errors and
>types of soft error
>
>Soft errors:  2 Types: Isolating and Non-isolating soft error.
>
>Isolating soft error: the NAUN in the soft error report frame is irrelevant.

Thanks for a good answer. You meant to say that the NAUN is relevant with 
isolating errors, though.

With isolating errors, the troubleshooter can isolate the fault domain. The 
fault may be with the reporting station, the nearest active upstream 
neighbor (NAUN), or cabling, MSAU ports or patch panels between the station 
and its NAUN.

If CRC errors (line errors) are excessive, check for crosstalk, noise, RFI 
or EMI affecting the cabling between the reporting station and its upstream 
neighbor. Also check the NIC of the upstream neighbor. 60 CRC errors in 
four minutes with 2.2 Mbytes of traffic is a lot. But is this a continuous 
problem or just a one-time thing?

When an error occurs, a station sets a two-second timer and waits for any 
other errors before sending a soft error report. Using a Sniffer, look back 
two seconds from the soft error report to see if there's any evidence of 
what caused the problem. It might just be stations inserting or leaving the 
ring.

Priscilla


>Types: Line error (CRC error, illegal bit find in Token or frame), Internal
>error, Burst Error, ARI/FCI error
>
>Non-isolating soft error:  Cannot be isolated to a station and the stations
>NAUN or the cabling between them.
>
>Types: Lost frame, copy error, receive congested,  token error, frequency
>error.
>
>The cyclic redundancy checksum generated by the originating LAN station or
>far-end device does not match the checksum calculated from the data
>received. On a LAN, this usually indicates noise or transmission problems on
>the LAN interface or the LAN bus itself. A high number of CRCs is usually
>the result of a station transmitting bad data.
>
>HTH
>
>Vincent Chong
>
>
>""Andrew Larkins""  wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > What causes a CRC error on the token ring port and what is a soft
>error
> >
> >
> > JOHANNESBURG#sho int to 0/0
> > TokenRing0/0 is up, line protocol is up
> >   Hardware is IBM2692, address is 0007.7829.1b43 (bia 0007.7829.1b43)
> >   Internet address is x.x.x.x
> >   MTU 8136 bytes, BW 16000 Kbit, DLY 630 usec,
> >  reliability 255/255, txload 3/255, rxload 1/255
> >   Encapsulation SNAP, loopback not set
> >   Keepalive set (10 sec)
> >   ARP type: SNAP, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
> >   Ring speed: 16 Mbps
> >   Duplex: half
> >   Mode: Classic token ring station
> >   Source bridging enabled, srn 1025 bn 1 trn 1997 (ring group)
> > spanning explorer enabled
> >   Group Address: 0x, Functional Address: 0x0880001A
> >   Ethernet Transit OUI: 0x00
> >   Last Ring Status 00:00:08  (0x2000)
> >   Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
> >   Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:04:36
> >   Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
> >   Queueing strategy: fifo
> >   Output queue :0/40 (size/max)
> >   5 minute input rate 63000 bits/sec, 53 packets/sec
> >   5 minute output rate 193000 bits/sec, 49 packets/sec
> >  15161 packets input, 2224430 bytes, 0 no buffer
> >  Received 1304 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
> >  60 input errors, 60 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
> >  15150 packets output, 8156480 bytes, 0 underruns
> >  0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
> >  0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
> >  0 transitions
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andrew
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RE: token ring problem - URGENT [7:3596]

2001-05-09 Thread Andrew Larkins

This only started this weekend just gone. New STP cabling was installed by
the client. I replaced the one device yesterday to prove a point, but I
really believe the cabling is a problem. Client does not believe me though.

This is what I got from the Madge RMON stats on the port..

Name  Value 
Abort errors  525   
AC errors 14
Beacon events 0 
Beacon packets0 
Beacon time   0 
Burst errors  0 
Claim token events0 
Claim token packets   0 
Congestion errors 2652  
Dropped events0 
Frame copied errors   0 
Frequency errors  0 
Internal errors   0 
Line errors   9 
Lost frame errors 1868  
MAC octets2385536   
MAC packets   73924 
NAUN changes  1 
Ring poll events  5799  
Ring purge events 9651  
Ring purge packets10561 
Soft error reports1250  
Token errors  4834   

Thanks for all the help

Andrew  

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Subject: Re: token ring problem - URGENT [7:3596]


At 10:19 AM 5/8/01, Vincent Chong wrote:
>Hi;
>
>You should use show controller token to determine how many Soft Errors and
>types of soft error
>
>Soft errors:  2 Types: Isolating and Non-isolating soft error.
>
>Isolating soft error: the NAUN in the soft error report frame is
irrelevant.

Thanks for a good answer. You meant to say that the NAUN is relevant with 
isolating errors, though.

With isolating errors, the troubleshooter can isolate the fault domain. The 
fault may be with the reporting station, the nearest active upstream 
neighbor (NAUN), or cabling, MSAU ports or patch panels between the station 
and its NAUN.

If CRC errors (line errors) are excessive, check for crosstalk, noise, RFI 
or EMI affecting the cabling between the reporting station and its upstream 
neighbor. Also check the NIC of the upstream neighbor. 60 CRC errors in 
four minutes with 2.2 Mbytes of traffic is a lot. But is this a continuous 
problem or just a one-time thing?

When an error occurs, a station sets a two-second timer and waits for any 
other errors before sending a soft error report. Using a Sniffer, look back 
two seconds from the soft error report to see if there's any evidence of 
what caused the problem. It might just be stations inserting or leaving the 
ring.

Priscilla


>Types: Line error (CRC error, illegal bit find in Token or frame), Internal
>error, Burst Error, ARI/FCI error
>
>Non-isolating soft error:  Cannot be isolated to a station and the stations
>NAUN or the cabling between them.
>
>Types: Lost frame, copy error, receive congested,  token error, frequency
>error.
>
>The cyclic redundancy checksum generated by the originating LAN station or
>far-end device does not match the checksum calculated from the data
>received. On a LAN, this usually indicates noise or transmission problems
on
>the LAN interface or the LAN bus itself. A high number of CRCs is usually
>the result of a station transmitting bad data.
>
>HTH
>
>Vincent Chong
>
>
>""Andrew Larkins""  wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > What causes a CRC error on the token ring port and what is a soft
>error
> >
> >
> > JOHANNESBURG#sho int to 0/0
> > TokenRing0/0 is up, line protocol is up
> >   Hardware is IBM2692, address is 0007.7829.1b43 (bia 0007.7829.1b43)
> >   Internet address is x.x.x.x
> >   MTU 8136 bytes, BW 16000 Kbit, DLY 630 usec,
> >  reliability 255/255, txload 3/255, rxload 1/255
> >   Encapsulation SNAP, loopback not set
> >   Keepalive set (10 sec)
> >   ARP type: SNAP, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
> >   Ring speed: 16 Mbps
> >   Duplex: half
> >   Mode: Classic token ring station
> >   Source bridging enabled, srn 1025 bn 1 trn 1997 (ring group)
> > sp

Re: Token Ring Tool WAS Token Ring Problem

2001-03-30 Thread Scott Jensen

Media Insertion Tool - is the name I learned about 10 years ago I think.

Scott

Daniel Cotts wrote:

> I've heard about those zapper tools for MAUs but have never seen one. Is
> there an official name for it? Any manufacturer or part number? Might be
> worth finding on eBay. I have several old MAUs that I haven't tested.
> TIA
> > -Original Message-
> > From: ElephantChild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> > Typical causes, in no particular order, are:
> >
> > - Stuck relay, if you're using an old mechanical MAU, eg a 8228. If
> >   that's the problem, just phaser the relay unstuck.
> >
>
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RE: Token Ring Tool WAS Token Ring Problem

2001-03-30 Thread Jim Dixon

The relay unsticker-tool is called
a Ring Initialization tool.
It is just about the size of a small
cellphone and fits directly into the MAU and contains a battery.
You must insert it into the afflicted
port.


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Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 4:00 PM
To: Daniel Cotts
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: Token Ring Tool WAS Token Ring Problem


On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Daniel Cotts wrote:

> I've heard about those zapper tools for MAUs but have never seen one. Is
> there an official name for it? Any manufacturer or part number? Might be
> worth finding on eBay. I have several old MAUs that I haven't tested.
> TIA

Don't remember a part number, and not even sure they're available
separately.

IIRC, IBM
used to ship one with each 8228. Needless to say, most of them were lost
or discarded quickly, and the ones that weren't somehow remained behind
when the 8228s were retired (or at sites that *still* use 8228s, people
are hanging onto them desperately).

> > -Original Message-
> > From: ElephantChild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  
> > Typical causes, in no particular order, are:
> > 
> > - Stuck relay, if you're using an old mechanical MAU, eg a 8228. If
> >   that's the problem, just phaser the relay unstuck.

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