VOIP [7:64080]

2003-02-28 Thread Waters, Kristina
Everyone,

I am seeking a recommendation on a voip book, preferably something that
explains the different types of technologies and how they can be applied
'in the real world'. Right now, we are doing some very rudimentary voip
stuff with a variety of routers, 1760, 2600, and a 3600 seriers which is
connected to a pri. 

We have no call manager (yet), so we have a bunch of dial-peer groups set up
on all our routers to interconnect the remote offices. All offices have
their own pbx's of different types, and most of the routers at the remote
locations have the vic fxs cards. 

I feel like this is a good opportunity for me to learn a great deal, but I
want to make sure that I REALLY understand what I am learning. And right
now, for example, I have no idea what the difference is between an FXS card
and an E&M card. I'm starting to feel a bit like the village voip idiot, and
the tons of docs I've read on the cisco web site do not seem to be helping.

Any recommendations will be highly appreciated.

Thanks,
Kris


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RE: VOIP [7:64080]

2003-02-28 Thread Juan Blanco
Kris,
The following will be a start for your goal..

Cisco IP Telephony by ciscopress - David Lovell
Cisco IP Telephony Network Design Guide
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/ip_tele/network/
Cisco IP Telephony Solution Guide
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/solution_guide/index.html


DQoS is all QoS, pretty straight forward. Hands on experience helped quite a
bit. There is a QoS book from Cisco Press, the book is a few years old and
is poorly layed out. The IOS 12.2 QoS guide follows the exam blueprint
pretty closely and is a great reference.
Cisco AVVID QoS Guide
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/ip_tele/avvidqos/index
.htm
Cisco IOS QoS Solutions Guide 12.2
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fqos
_c/


Cisco Voice over Frame relay, ATM and IP by ciscopress - Steve McQuery
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/voice
_c/vcprt1/index.htm

Be aware that you need to find as many pdfs as possible related to the topic
because the technology is still going trough many changes

Good luck,

Juan Blanco

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Subject: VOIP [7:64080]


Everyone,

I am seeking a recommendation on a voip book, preferably something that
explains the different types of technologies and how they can be applied
'in the real world'. Right now, we are doing some very rudimentary voip
stuff with a variety of routers, 1760, 2600, and a 3600 seriers which is
connected to a pri.

We have no call manager (yet), so we have a bunch of dial-peer groups set up
on all our routers to interconnect the remote offices. All offices have
their own pbx's of different types, and most of the routers at the remote
locations have the vic fxs cards.

I feel like this is a good opportunity for me to learn a great deal, but I
want to make sure that I REALLY understand what I am learning. And right
now, for example, I have no idea what the difference is between an FXS card
and an E&M card. I'm starting to feel a bit like the village voip idiot, and
the tons of docs I've read on the cisco web site do not seem to be helping.

Any recommendations will be highly appreciated.

Thanks,
Kris


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RE: VOIP [7:64080]

2003-02-28 Thread cebuano
Kris,
In case you didn't get the newsletter...
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This month we are offering selected voice titles at 15% off the list
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Juan Blanco
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 11:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: VOIP [7:64080]

Kris,
The following will be a start for your goal..

Cisco IP Telephony by ciscopress - David Lovell
Cisco IP Telephony Network Design Guide
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/ip_tele/network/
Cisco IP Telephony Solution Guide
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/solution_guide/index.html


DQoS is all QoS, pretty straight forward. Hands on experience helped
quite a
bit. There is a QoS book from Cisco Press, the book is a few years old
and
is poorly layed out. The IOS 12.2 QoS guide follows the exam blueprint
pretty closely and is a great reference.
Cisco AVVID QoS Guide
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/ip_tele/avvidqos/i
ndex
.htm
Cisco IOS QoS Solutions Guide 12.2
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/
fqos
_c/


Cisco Voice over Frame relay, ATM and IP by ciscopress - Steve McQuery
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/v
oice
_c/vcprt1/index.htm

Be aware that you need to find as many pdfs as possible related to the
topic
because the technology is still going trough many changes

Good luck,

Juan Blanco

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Waters, Kristina
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: VOIP [7:64080]


Everyone,

I am seeking a recommendation on a voip book, preferably something that
explains the different types of technologies and how they can be applied
'in the real world'. Right now, we are doing some very rudimentary voip
stuff with a variety of routers, 1760, 2600, and a 3600 seriers which is
connected to a pri.

We have no call manager (yet), so we have a bunch of dial-peer groups
set up
on all our routers to interconnect the remote offices. All offices have
their own pbx's of different types, and most of the routers at the
remote
locations have the vic fxs cards.

I feel like this is a good opportunity for me to learn a great deal, but
I
want to make sure that I REALLY understand what I am learning. And right
now, for example, I have no idea what the difference is between an FXS
card
and an E&M card. I'm starting to feel a bit like the village voip idiot,
and
the tons of docs I've read on the cisco web site do not seem to be
helping.

Any recommendations will be highly appreciated.

Thanks,
Kris


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RE: VOIP [7:64080]

2003-02-28 Thread Angel Leiva
Hi Kris,

Try Configuring Cisco Voice Over IP, Second Edition by Callisma (Various
Authors).

Below is the URL to view the book's info. I am currently reading it. It has
lots of great information on VoIP matters. 

In fact, Chapter 4 explains what exactly FXS, FXO or E&M interface ports do.

http://www.syngress.com/catalog/sg_main.cfm?pid=2282

Hth,

Angel

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Waters, Kristina
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 8:48 AM
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Subject: VOIP [7:64080]

Everyone,

I am seeking a recommendation on a voip book, preferably something that
explains the different types of technologies and how they can be applied
'in the real world'. Right now, we are doing some very rudimentary voip
stuff with a variety of routers, 1760, 2600, and a 3600 seriers which is
connected to a pri. 

We have no call manager (yet), so we have a bunch of dial-peer groups set up
on all our routers to interconnect the remote offices. All offices have
their own pbx's of different types, and most of the routers at the remote
locations have the vic fxs cards. 

I feel like this is a good opportunity for me to learn a great deal, but I
want to make sure that I REALLY understand what I am learning. And right
now, for example, I have no idea what the difference is between an FXS card
and an E&M card. I'm starting to feel a bit like the village voip idiot, and
the tons of docs I've read on the cisco web site do not seem to be helping.

Any recommendations will be highly appreciated.

Thanks,
Kris


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RE: VOIP [7:64080]

2003-02-28 Thread John Neiberger
Another excellent book is Integrating Voice and Data Networks by Scott
Keaggy (CiscoPress).  So far, that's my favorite VoIP book and much of the
book is helpful even if you're not using Cisco IP Telephony gear.

John

Angel Leiva wrote:
> 
> Hi Kris,
> 
> Try Configuring Cisco Voice Over IP, Second Edition by Callisma
> (Various
> Authors).
> 
> Below is the URL to view the book's info. I am currently
> reading it. It has
> lots of great information on VoIP matters. 
> 
> In fact, Chapter 4 explains what exactly FXS, FXO or E&M
> interface ports do.
> 
> http://www.syngress.com/catalog/sg_main.cfm?pid=2282
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Angel
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of
> Waters, Kristina
> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 8:48 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: VOIP [7:64080]
> 
> Everyone,
> 
> I am seeking a recommendation on a voip book, preferably
> something that
> explains the different types of technologies and how they can
> be applied
> 'in the real world'. Right now, we are doing some very
> rudimentary voip
> stuff with a variety of routers, 1760, 2600, and a 3600 seriers
> which is
> connected to a pri. 
> 
> We have no call manager (yet), so we have a bunch of dial-peer
> groups set up
> on all our routers to interconnect the remote offices. All
> offices have
> their own pbx's of different types, and most of the routers at
> the remote
> locations have the vic fxs cards. 
> 
> I feel like this is a good opportunity for me to learn a great
> deal, but I
> want to make sure that I REALLY understand what I am learning.
> And right
> now, for example, I have no idea what the difference is between
> an FXS card
> and an E&M card. I'm starting to feel a bit like the village
> voip idiot, and
> the tons of docs I've read on the cisco web site do not seem to
> be helping.
> 
> Any recommendations will be highly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kris
> 
> 
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Re: VOIP [7:64080]

2003-03-03 Thread Tunde Kalejaiye
what do you need at a minimum to configure voip in a lab enviroment.. i need
a basic setup between 2 points

thanks in advance

Tunde



- Original Message -
From: "Angel Leiva" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 10:11 PM
Subject: RE: VOIP [7:64080]


> Hi Kris,
>
> Try Configuring Cisco Voice Over IP, Second Edition by Callisma (Various
> Authors).
>
> Below is the URL to view the book's info. I am currently reading it. It
has
> lots of great information on VoIP matters.
>
> In fact, Chapter 4 explains what exactly FXS, FXO or E&M interface ports
do.
>
> http://www.syngress.com/catalog/sg_main.cfm?pid=2282
>
> Hth,
>
> Angel
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Waters, Kristina
> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 8:48 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: VOIP [7:64080]
>
> Everyone,
>
> I am seeking a recommendation on a voip book, preferably something that
> explains the different types of technologies and how they can be applied
> 'in the real world'. Right now, we are doing some very rudimentary voip
> stuff with a variety of routers, 1760, 2600, and a 3600 seriers which is
> connected to a pri.
>
> We have no call manager (yet), so we have a bunch of dial-peer groups set
up
> on all our routers to interconnect the remote offices. All offices have
> their own pbx's of different types, and most of the routers at the remote
> locations have the vic fxs cards.
>
> I feel like this is a good opportunity for me to learn a great deal, but I
> want to make sure that I REALLY understand what I am learning. And right
> now, for example, I have no idea what the difference is between an FXS
card
> and an E&M card. I'm starting to feel a bit like the village voip idiot,
and
> the tons of docs I've read on the cisco web site do not seem to be
helping.
>
> Any recommendations will be highly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Kris
>
>
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> are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify
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RE: VOIP [7:64080]

2003-03-03 Thread Juan Blanco
Tunde,
The minimum will be two routers (2600), two FXS and two VNM(this is where
you insert the FXS). This will allow you to
have a point to point voice connectivity

Juan Blanco

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Tunde Kalejaiye
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 7:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VOIP [7:64080]


what do you need at a minimum to configure voip in a lab enviroment.. i need
a basic setup between 2 points

thanks in advance

Tunde



- Original Message -
From: "Angel Leiva"
To:
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 10:11 PM
Subject: RE: VOIP [7:64080]


> Hi Kris,
>
> Try Configuring Cisco Voice Over IP, Second Edition by Callisma (Various
> Authors).
>
> Below is the URL to view the book's info. I am currently reading it. It
has
> lots of great information on VoIP matters.
>
> In fact, Chapter 4 explains what exactly FXS, FXO or E&M interface ports
do.
>
> http://www.syngress.com/catalog/sg_main.cfm?pid=2282
>
> Hth,
>
> Angel
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Waters, Kristina
> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 8:48 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: VOIP [7:64080]
>
> Everyone,
>
> I am seeking a recommendation on a voip book, preferably something that
> explains the different types of technologies and how they can be applied
> 'in the real world'. Right now, we are doing some very rudimentary voip
> stuff with a variety of routers, 1760, 2600, and a 3600 seriers which is
> connected to a pri.
>
> We have no call manager (yet), so we have a bunch of dial-peer groups set
up
> on all our routers to interconnect the remote offices. All offices have
> their own pbx's of different types, and most of the routers at the remote
> locations have the vic fxs cards.
>
> I feel like this is a good opportunity for me to learn a great deal, but I
> want to make sure that I REALLY understand what I am learning. And right
> now, for example, I have no idea what the difference is between an FXS
card
> and an E&M card. I'm starting to feel a bit like the village voip idiot,
and
> the tons of docs I've read on the cisco web site do not seem to be
helping.
>
> Any recommendations will be highly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Kris
>
>
> **
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Re: VOIP [7:64080]

2003-03-03 Thread Peter Walker
Tunde

For a VOIP basic lab you need

At least two analog telephony devices/connections (eg telephone, pstn phone 
line)

At least two routing devices (ie routers) with network connectivity and 
appropriate interfaces for the above devices. (eg 2600, MC3810)

connectivity/routes between the routers.

==
eg1
Two telephones
Two 2600 routers
Two NM-1V Voice network modules
Two VIC-2FXS

eg2
Two telephones
Two MC3810
Two AVM3 or AVM6 (Analog voice modules)
Two FXS APMs (Analog Personality Modules)

==
If you are using a PSTN line instead of a telephone then replace FXS with 
FXO

If you are buying used from auction sites such as Ebay then eg2 will work 
probably out to be a lot cheaper option and just as capable as the 2600 
router (in terms of voice, basic routing).

Regards

Peter Walker
CC[NID]P, CIPTSS, etc


--On 03 March 2003 12:36 + Tunde Kalejaiye  
wrote:

> what do you need at a minimum to configure voip in a lab enviroment.. i
> need a basic setup between 2 points
>
> thanks in advance
>
> Tunde
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Angel Leiva"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 10:11 PM
> Subject: RE: VOIP [7:64080]
>
>
>> Hi Kris,
>>
>> Try Configuring Cisco Voice Over IP, Second Edition by Callisma (Various
>> Authors).
>>
>> Below is the URL to view the book's info. I am currently reading it. It
> has
>> lots of great information on VoIP matters.
>>
>> In fact, Chapter 4 explains what exactly FXS, FXO or E&M interface ports
> do.
>>
>> http://www.syngress.com/catalog/sg_main.cfm?pid=2282
>>
>> Hth,
>>
>> Angel
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> Waters, Kristina
>> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 8:48 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: VOIP [7:64080]
>>
>> Everyone,
>>
>> I am seeking a recommendation on a voip book, preferably something that
>> explains the different types of technologies and how they can be applied
>> 'in the real world'. Right now, we are doing some very rudimentary voip
>> stuff with a variety of routers, 1760, 2600, and a 3600 seriers which is
>> connected to a pri.
>>
>> We have no call manager (yet), so we have a bunch of dial-peer groups set
> up
>> on all our routers to interconnect the remote offices. All offices have
>> their own pbx's of different types, and most of the routers at the remote
>> locations have the vic fxs cards.
>>
>> I feel like this is a good opportunity for me to learn a great deal, but
>> I want to make sure that I REALLY understand what I am learning. And
>> right now, for example, I have no idea what the difference is between an
>> FXS
> card
>> and an E&M card. I'm starting to feel a bit like the village voip idiot,
> and
>> the tons of docs I've read on the cisco web site do not seem to be
> helping.
>>
>> Any recommendations will be highly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kris
>>
>>
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>> are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify
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