Re: WFQ On High Speed Link [7:34913]

2002-02-17 Thread Steven A. Ridder

If the link is such a high speed, why use wfq or anything else other than
fifo, if, as we have been saying, it takes to long to process and pritorize
the packet at that high of a speed?  The only time I know of to use a
specialized queueing at high speeds is if you have lets say a t3 that comes
into a router and the other end is a T1 or a Gig backbone that comes into a
Catalyst and the other ports are 10/100.  Then you need queueing.  But other
than that I can't think of a reason you need queueing in a diffserv
environment.  It takes too long.
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 There are circumstances when WFQ and CBWFQ are used on high speed
interfaces,
 specially in diffserv QoS environment.

 Nadeem
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 s vermill wrote:

  All,
 
  Would you be so kind as to share your thoughts/experience with WFQ on
high
  speed links?  I know that Cisco generally considers it to be unnecessary
on
  links greater than 2 Mbps.
 
  I have a client with a 16 Mbps HSSI connection between 3640 routers.
The
  config has been in place for a long time.  However, the circuit does not
  seem to support the throughput that they should be getting.  I finally
got
  them to share a copy of the config file.  Not only is WFQ enabled, but
the
  congestive discard value was left at a default 64 messages.
 
  I am wondering if this is just unnecessary or if it is/can be
detrimental?
  As I said, there are indications that there are throughput issues.
 
  Please note that I am just looking for comments.  Unfortunately, I have
  never had my hands on any of their equipment (yet).  Thus, I have no
debug
  or even visual observations to offer.  All of my information is third
  party.  Just trying to understand the wisdom of using WFQ in this
 environment.
 
  Many thanks,
 
  Scott
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 Cisco Systems,Inc.
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Re: WFQ On High Speed Link [7:34913]

2002-02-16 Thread PING

There are circumstances when WFQ and CBWFQ are used on high speed interfaces,
specially in diffserv QoS environment.

Nadeem
==
s vermill wrote:

 All,

 Would you be so kind as to share your thoughts/experience with WFQ on high
 speed links?  I know that Cisco generally considers it to be unnecessary on
 links greater than 2 Mbps.

 I have a client with a 16 Mbps HSSI connection between 3640 routers.  The
 config has been in place for a long time.  However, the circuit does not
 seem to support the throughput that they should be getting.  I finally got
 them to share a copy of the config file.  Not only is WFQ enabled, but the
 congestive discard value was left at a default 64 messages.

 I am wondering if this is just unnecessary or if it is/can be detrimental?
 As I said, there are indications that there are throughput issues.

 Please note that I am just looking for comments.  Unfortunately, I have
 never had my hands on any of their equipment (yet).  Thus, I have no debug
 or even visual observations to offer.  All of my information is third
 party.  Just trying to understand the wisdom of using WFQ in this
environment.

 Many thanks,

 Scott
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CCNP
Cisco Systems,Inc.
Chelmsford, MA 01824




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WFQ On High Speed Link [7:34913]

2002-02-08 Thread s vermill

All,

Would you be so kind as to share your thoughts/experience with WFQ on high
speed links?  I know that Cisco generally considers it to be unnecessary on
links greater than 2 Mbps.

I have a client with a 16 Mbps HSSI connection between 3640 routers.  The
config has been in place for a long time.  However, the circuit does not
seem to support the throughput that they should be getting.  I finally got
them to share a copy of the config file.  Not only is WFQ enabled, but the
congestive discard value was left at a default 64 messages.

I am wondering if this is just unnecessary or if it is/can be detrimental? 
As I said, there are indications that there are throughput issues.

Please note that I am just looking for comments.  Unfortunately, I have
never had my hands on any of their equipment (yet).  Thus, I have no debug
or even visual observations to offer.  All of my information is third
party.  Just trying to understand the wisdom of using WFQ in this environment.

Many thanks,

Scott



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RE: WFQ On High Speed Link [7:34913]

2002-02-08 Thread Chris Charlebois

I don't *know* that it would be detrimental, but I wouldn't be suprised. 
You're asking the router's processor to do advanced screening on ALOT of
packets.  It could easily overload the process utilization.  First thing I'd
do is look at that.


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Re: WFQ On High Speed Link [7:34913]

2002-02-08 Thread John Neiberger

I've heard that WFQ at this speed is detrimental due to the time it
takes to process the queues.  That ends up leading to a longer delay
than any congestion would cause.

John

 s vermill  2/8/02 4:04:20 PM 
All,

Would you be so kind as to share your thoughts/experience with WFQ on
high
speed links?  I know that Cisco generally considers it to be
unnecessary on
links greater than 2 Mbps.

I have a client with a 16 Mbps HSSI connection between 3640 routers. 
The
config has been in place for a long time.  However, the circuit does
not
seem to support the throughput that they should be getting.  I finally
got
them to share a copy of the config file.  Not only is WFQ enabled, but
the
congestive discard value was left at a default 64 messages.

I am wondering if this is just unnecessary or if it is/can be
detrimental? 
As I said, there are indications that there are throughput issues.

Please note that I am just looking for comments.  Unfortunately, I
have
never had my hands on any of their equipment (yet).  Thus, I have no
debug
or even visual observations to offer.  All of my information is third
party.  Just trying to understand the wisdom of using WFQ in this
environment.

Many thanks,

Scott




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