RE: auto-negotiate not reliable
yeah very true with Sun had a horrible time till i could discover this..:-) murali -Original Message- From: Healis, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 8:54 PM To: 'Doug Laing'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: auto-negotiate not reliable I have seen problems like this with certain NIC cards, in particular my experience has been poor with 3Com PC Cards. Also, auto-negotiation seems to be problematic between Sun machines and Cisco equipment. The best I can tell is when both sides are set to "auto" they never are able to decide on one setting or the other and eventually fail due to the numerous errors on the interface that accrue while trying to negotiate. I have always played with the settings on the switch port until I see no errors. Jim Healis, CCDP, CCNP Senior Network Administrator Virata p: 408/566-1004 c: 408/210-8122 -Original Message- From: Doug Laing [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: auto-negotiate not reliable Can someone explain to me why auto-negotiate on a Catalyst 5500 and a NIC is not always reliable. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
auto-negotiate not reliable
Can someone explain to me why auto-negotiate on a Catalyst 5500 and a NIC is not always reliable. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: auto-negotiate not reliable
It can't determine the condition of the cable. What else?...anyone help? "Doug Laing" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can someone explain to me why auto-negotiate on a Catalyst 5500 and a NIC is not always reliable. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: auto-negotiate not reliable
Different vendors implement auto-negotiate in different ways, and sometimes those ways are at odds... There is no way to tell whether the firmware in a given vendor's NIC is going to respond and react as Cisco expects it too in an autonegotiation process. As a general rule of thumb, regardless of vendor, when it really matters - explicitly set it... don't do auto-negotiation. Dale [=`) From: Doug Laing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Doug Laing [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: auto-negotiate not reliable Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:54:41 -0400 Can someone explain to me why auto-negotiate on a Catalyst 5500 and a NIC is not always reliable. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: auto-negotiate not reliable
hello the reason why is , when they come out with the standar of auto-sense they got some hole in the standar and some equipment manufacture complete those hole as they thing is good for them hope I'm clear Yves Routhier Patrick Bass wrote: It can't determine the condition of the cable. What else?...anyone help? "Doug Laing" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can someone explain to me why auto-negotiate on a Catalyst 5500 and a NIC is not always reliable. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: auto-negotiate not reliable
I have seen problems like this with certain NIC cards, in particular my experience has been poor with 3Com PC Cards. Also, auto-negotiation seems to be problematic between Sun machines and Cisco equipment. The best I can tell is when both sides are set to "auto" they never are able to decide on one setting or the other and eventually fail due to the numerous errors on the interface that accrue while trying to negotiate. I have always played with the settings on the switch port until I see no errors. Jim Healis, CCDP, CCNP Senior Network Administrator Virata p: 408/566-1004 c: 408/210-8122 -Original Message- From: Doug Laing [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: auto-negotiate not reliable Can someone explain to me why auto-negotiate on a Catalyst 5500 and a NIC is not always reliable. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: auto-negotiate not reliable
That is correct. The cards and the switch will continue to "negotiate" for every tranmission. You need to change one of them to a certain speed. They are both trying to figure out which speed to run at. If you make one run at a certain speed, this problem will go away. I always set the NIC to a certain speed 10 or 100. -Original Message- From: Healis, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 12:54 PM To: 'Doug Laing'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: auto-negotiate not reliable I have seen problems like this with certain NIC cards, in particular my experience has been poor with 3Com PC Cards. Also, auto-negotiation seems to be problematic between Sun machines and Cisco equipment. The best I can tell is when both sides are set to "auto" they never are able to decide on one setting or the other and eventually fail due to the numerous errors on the interface that accrue while trying to negotiate. I have always played with the settings on the switch port until I see no errors. Jim Healis, CCDP, CCNP Senior Network Administrator Virata p: 408/566-1004 c: 408/210-8122 -Original Message- From: Doug Laing [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: auto-negotiate not reliable Can someone explain to me why auto-negotiate on a Catalyst 5500 and a NIC is not always reliable. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: auto-negotiate not reliable
As far as I'm aware - auto-sense is not a "standard", there sren't defined specifcations for each vendor to follow. Feargal Feargal Ledwidge, CCDA CCNP Wyle Electronics Network Projects Manager Direct: 949.453.3016 Fax: 949.788.4794 -Original Message- From: ROUTHIER, YVES [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 9:45 AM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: auto-negotiate not reliable hello the reason why is , when they come out with the standar of auto-sense they got some hole in the standar and some equipment manufacture complete those hole as they thing is good for them hope I'm clear Yves Routhier Patrick Bass wrote: It can't determine the condition of the cable. What else?...anyone help? "Doug Laing" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can someone explain to me why auto-negotiate on a Catalyst 5500 and a NIC is not always reliable. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: auto-negotiate not reliable
auto-negotiate is usually a no no. Reasone being that switches and nics are usally made by diff. vendors and react differently to each other.. hecki have 3com switches AND 3 com nic cardsand i still need to go around the office in the morningand do a "winipcfg".lol Deepak Doug Laing wrote: Can someone explain to me why auto-negotiate on a Catalyst 5500 and a NIC is not always reliable. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- \\|// (o o) oOOo-(_)-oOOo *@ bcz finest @* **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
