Re: back to back cables [7:527]

2001-04-15 Thread John Neiberger

Sorry to give you so much flack.As I mentioned in my first reply, the
part numbers you need are:

CAB-V35MT=
CAB-V35FC=

If you'd like, I could buy them for you and jack up the price.  Then you
could pay me $75 per cable and I'd make $30 or $40 on the deal.  :-)

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Regards,
John


|  >
|  > Unless someone has the part number for an actual
|  > Cisco back to back cable, which is all that I asked
|  > for in the first place, I would like to see
|  > this thread buried.
|  >
|  > Thanks to everyone for their advice,
|  > Ray Mosely
|  > CCNA, MCSE
|  >
|  > -Original Message-
|  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
|  > John Neiberger
|  > Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 2:06 AM
|  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  > Subject: RE: back to back cables [7:527]
|  >
|  >
|  > Wow, why not?  Does your employer make a habit of spending three times
as
|  > much as necessary?  :-)  Just kidding...
|  >
|  > If that's the case, then go with the part numbers I gave you.  For the
|  sake
|  > of performance you'll want to go with the v.35 cables.
|  >
|  > John
|  >
|  > |  It's simple.  Cisco doesn't, to my knowledge,
|  > |  make a back to back cable.  I'm not allowed to
|  > |  order a third party cable.
|  > |  Ray M.
|  > |
|  > |  -Original Message-
|  > |  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|  > |  Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 4:42 PM
|  > |  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  > |  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  > |  Subject: Re: back to back cables [7:527]
|  > |
|  > |
|  > |  Do I even dare ask why you are allowed to use two regular cables but
|  not
|  > |  a back to back cable?
|  > |
|  > |  Hmm... while writing that I just thought of one good reason. 
Whenever
|  > |  I order a back-to-back cable I usually get an RS-232 cable.  This
would
|  > |  tend to limit the clock rate between the two routers.  If I needed a
|  > |  higher speed I'd have to find a V.35 back to back cable which seem
to
|  be
|  > |  harder to find.
|  > |
|  > |  If you want V.35:
|  > |
|  > |  CAB-V35MT=
|  > |  CAB-V35FC=
|  > |
|  > |  If you want RS-232:
|  > |
|  > |  CAB-232MT=
|  > |  CAB-232FC=
|  > |
|  > |  HTH,
|  > |  John
|  > |
|  > |  >>> "Ray Mosely"  4/13/01 4:29:14 PM >>>
|  > |  I'm sorry to bring up this old old old
|  > |  thread, but I'm in a situation where I
|  > |  need a back to back cable for some 2501's,
|  > |  but I'm not allowed to use a back to back
|  > |  cable.
|  > |
|  > |  There are two bona fide Cisco cables which
|  > |  can be hooked together to make one back
|  > |  to back cable (at three times the price
|  > |  of a back to back).  Anybody know the
|  > |  part numbers of the Cisco cables?  It's
|  > |  for back to back on the WAN ports.
|  > |
|  > |  Thanks,
|  > |  Ray Mosely
|  > |  CCNA, MCSE
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Re: back to back cables [7:527]

2001-04-15 Thread Jason J. Roysdon

That's got to be one of the lamest things I've ever heard.  I'd tell
accounting to stick it, and that unless they want to learn how to make
routers work and figure out the correct parts, that perfectly legitimate
third-party serial cables are no different than the Cisco blue & logo'd
cables other than that they cost a third of the cost.

That's like saying you won't by Kingston/etc DRAM or Flash at 1/2th to 1/4th
the cost of Cisco products.  Do you have the same limitations on this?  They
have the same "Cisco part no." but they're definitely not from Cisco's
vendors.

I would make a huge fuss over this and take it up as far as I had to, with
the message that accounting was making the company throw away money so items
would fit into the categories they wanted.  I don't know how many routers
you're having to buy for, but this sort of corporate waste just makes me go
ballistic.  It's the sort of thing the US Government is great at.

Worst case, here is how I'd get around it: When you order the cables, just
order 3-4 at a time so they come in at over $100 and tell the vendor you
want them to show as a line-item of quantity 1.

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""Ray Mosely""  wrote in message
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> OK, for those of you who continue to be
> incredulous, let me spell this out.
> We have a budget with budget lines.  Commodities
> fall under $100, and equipment is over $100.
> Third party cables would be commodities, and
> there isn't enough money in that budget line
> to buy cables, because somebody else didn't
> put enough money in that budget line.
>
> On the other hand, there's too much money in
> the equipment budget line, so if we buy Cisco
> cables bundled with a Cisco router, then we
> can actually get cables that will work.  Even
> if our supplier had third party cables (which
> it doesn't), we can't legitimately make the
> bookkeepers think that this is a manufacturer's
> bundle.  So I have to buy Cisco cables at $150
> a set, instead of third party cables at $50 a
> piece.
>
> Now, I'm not sure that any of this has anything
> to do with Cisco routers/routing, which is why
> I did NOT say any of this to begin with.  I said
> simply that I could not buy third party cables,
> which is true and the only fact that is truly
> relevant.  So hopefully, we can lay this to rest.
>
>
> Unless someone has the part number for an actual
> Cisco back to back cable, which is all that I asked
> for in the first place, I would like to see
> this thread buried.
>
> Thanks to everyone for their advice,
> Ray Mosely
> CCNA, MCSE
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> John Neiberger
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 2:06 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: back to back cables [7:527]
>
>
> Wow, why not?  Does your employer make a habit of spending three times as
> much as necessary?  :-)  Just kidding...
>
> If that's the case, then go with the part numbers I gave you.  For the
sake
> of performance you'll want to go with the v.35 cables.
>
> John
>
> |  It's simple.  Cisco doesn't, to my knowledge,
> |  make a back to back cable.  I'm not allowed to
> |  order a third party cable.
> |  Ray M.
> |
> |  -Original Message-
> |  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> |  Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 4:42 PM
> |  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |  Subject: Re: back to back cables [7:527]
> |
> |
> |  Do I even dare ask why you are allowed to use two regular cables but
not
> |  a back to back cable?
> |
> |  Hmm... while writing that I just thought of one good reason.  Whenever
> |  I order a back-to-back cable I usually get an RS-232 cable.  This would
> |  tend to limit the clock rate between the two routers.  If I needed a
> |  higher speed I'd have to find a V.35 back to back cable which seem to
be
> |  harder to find.
> |
> |  If you want V.35:
> |
> |  CAB-V35MT=
> |  CAB-V35FC=
> |
> |  If you want RS-232:
> |
> |  CAB-232MT=
> |  CAB-232FC=
> |
> |  HTH,
> |  John
> |
> |  >>> "Ray Mosely"  4/13/01 4:29:14 PM >>>
> |  I'm sorry to bring up this old old old
> |  thread, but I'm in a situation where I
> |  need a back to back cable for some 2501's,
> |  but I'm not allowed to use a back to back
> |  cable.
> |
> |  There are two bona fide Cisco cables which
> |  can be hooked together to make 

RE: back to back cables [7:527]

2001-04-15 Thread Ray Mosely

OK, for those of you who continue to be
incredulous, let me spell this out.
We have a budget with budget lines.  Commodities
fall under $100, and equipment is over $100.
Third party cables would be commodities, and
there isn't enough money in that budget line
to buy cables, because somebody else didn't
put enough money in that budget line.

On the other hand, there's too much money in
the equipment budget line, so if we buy Cisco
cables bundled with a Cisco router, then we
can actually get cables that will work.  Even
if our supplier had third party cables (which
it doesn't), we can't legitimately make the
bookkeepers think that this is a manufacturer's
bundle.  So I have to buy Cisco cables at $150
a set, instead of third party cables at $50 a
piece.

Now, I'm not sure that any of this has anything
to do with Cisco routers/routing, which is why
I did NOT say any of this to begin with.  I said
simply that I could not buy third party cables,
which is true and the only fact that is truly
relevant.  So hopefully, we can lay this to rest.


Unless someone has the part number for an actual
Cisco back to back cable, which is all that I asked
for in the first place, I would like to see
this thread buried.

Thanks to everyone for their advice,
Ray Mosely
CCNA, MCSE

-Original Message-
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John Neiberger
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 2:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: back to back cables [7:527]


Wow, why not?  Does your employer make a habit of spending three times as
much as necessary?  :-)  Just kidding...

If that's the case, then go with the part numbers I gave you.  For the sake
of performance you'll want to go with the v.35 cables.

John

|  It's simple.  Cisco doesn't, to my knowledge,
|  make a back to back cable.  I'm not allowed to
|  order a third party cable.
|  Ray M.
|
|  -Original Message-
|  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|  Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 4:42 PM
|  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  Subject: Re: back to back cables [7:527]
|
|
|  Do I even dare ask why you are allowed to use two regular cables but not
|  a back to back cable?
|
|  Hmm... while writing that I just thought of one good reason.  Whenever
|  I order a back-to-back cable I usually get an RS-232 cable.  This would
|  tend to limit the clock rate between the two routers.  If I needed a
|  higher speed I'd have to find a V.35 back to back cable which seem to be
|  harder to find.
|
|  If you want V.35:
|
|  CAB-V35MT=
|  CAB-V35FC=
|
|  If you want RS-232:
|
|  CAB-232MT=
|  CAB-232FC=
|
|  HTH,
|  John
|
|  >>> "Ray Mosely"  4/13/01 4:29:14 PM >>>
|  I'm sorry to bring up this old old old
|  thread, but I'm in a situation where I
|  need a back to back cable for some 2501's,
|  but I'm not allowed to use a back to back
|  cable.
|
|  There are two bona fide Cisco cables which
|  can be hooked together to make one back
|  to back cable (at three times the price
|  of a back to back).  Anybody know the
|  part numbers of the Cisco cables?  It's
|  for back to back on the WAN ports.
|
|  Thanks,
|  Ray Mosely
|  CCNA, MCSE
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RE: back to back cables [7:527]

2001-04-14 Thread John Neiberger

Wow, why not?  Does your employer make a habit of spending three times as
much as necessary?  :-)  Just kidding...

If that's the case, then go with the part numbers I gave you.  For the sake
of performance you'll want to go with the v.35 cables.

John

|  It's simple.  Cisco doesn't, to my knowledge,
|  make a back to back cable.  I'm not allowed to
|  order a third party cable.
|  Ray M.
|  
|  -Original Message-
|  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|  Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 4:42 PM
|  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  Subject: Re: back to back cables [7:527]
|  
|  
|  Do I even dare ask why you are allowed to use two regular cables but not
|  a back to back cable?
|  
|  Hmm... while writing that I just thought of one good reason.  Whenever
|  I order a back-to-back cable I usually get an RS-232 cable.  This would
|  tend to limit the clock rate between the two routers.  If I needed a
|  higher speed I'd have to find a V.35 back to back cable which seem to be
|  harder to find.
|  
|  If you want V.35:
|  
|  CAB-V35MT=
|  CAB-V35FC=
|  
|  If you want RS-232:
|  
|  CAB-232MT=
|  CAB-232FC=
|  
|  HTH,
|  John
|  
|  >>> "Ray Mosely"  4/13/01 4:29:14 PM >>>
|  I'm sorry to bring up this old old old
|  thread, but I'm in a situation where I
|  need a back to back cable for some 2501's,
|  but I'm not allowed to use a back to back
|  cable.
|  
|  There are two bona fide Cisco cables which
|  can be hooked together to make one back
|  to back cable (at three times the price
|  of a back to back).  Anybody know the
|  part numbers of the Cisco cables?  It's
|  for back to back on the WAN ports.
|  
|  Thanks,
|  Ray Mosely
|  CCNA, MCSE
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Re: back to back cables [7:527]

2001-04-14 Thread Rick Cossey

cisco does have their own back to back cable I have 2 or 3 in my lab. When I
get a chance I
check them for part numbers but I am certain they have the Cisco Logo! Also,
do you buy your CAT5
cables from cisco?
Rick
""Ray Mosely""  wrote in message
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> It's simple.  Cisco doesn't, to my knowledge,
> make a back to back cable.  I'm not allowed to
> order a third party cable.
> Ray M.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 4:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: back to back cables [7:527]
>
>
> Do I even dare ask why you are allowed to use two regular cables but not
> a back to back cable?
>
> Hmm... while writing that I just thought of one good reason.  Whenever
> I order a back-to-back cable I usually get an RS-232 cable.  This would
> tend to limit the clock rate between the two routers.  If I needed a
> higher speed I'd have to find a V.35 back to back cable which seem to be
> harder to find.
>
> If you want V.35:
>
> CAB-V35MT=
> CAB-V35FC=
>
> If you want RS-232:
>
> CAB-232MT=
> CAB-232FC=
>
> HTH,
> John
>
> >>> "Ray Mosely"  4/13/01 4:29:14 PM >>>
> I'm sorry to bring up this old old old
> thread, but I'm in a situation where I
> need a back to back cable for some 2501's,
> but I'm not allowed to use a back to back
> cable.
>
> There are two bona fide Cisco cables which
> can be hooked together to make one back
> to back cable (at three times the price
> of a back to back).  Anybody know the
> part numbers of the Cisco cables?  It's
> for back to back on the WAN ports.
>
> Thanks,
> Ray Mosely
> CCNA, MCSE
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Re: back to back cables [7:527]

2001-04-14 Thread Nigel Taylor

Get the cables you need from Bob lowery @  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 if you can't get it from him , then go to http://www.symmic.com

You won't have to pay those prices..  would $30 or less do...

Nigel..


- Original Message -
From: Jason J. Roysdon 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: back to back cables [7:527]


> I'm looking at a cable in my lab, CAB-HD60MMX-5, which is a nice short
cable
> (5ft) and is DTE 60 pin on one side and DCE 60 pin on the other.  It's got
> the Cisco blue and the housing looks just like my other Cisco back-to-back
> cable which is actually a DCE-to-v.35 & v.35-to-DTE cable (the only thing
> it's missing is a Cisco logo, but not all Cisco gear has the logo).
That's
> a Cisco part number and I'm finding it all over the place when I do a
Google
> search, so I'm sure you can find it direct from Cisco with their markup.
> I'd rather just pay $45 for a "Cisco Equivalent Cable" from Pacific Cable
> and the like:
> http://www.pacificcable.com/CiscoCables.htm
>
> Looks like it's available in 3ft, 5ft & 10ft variations
> CAB-HD60MMX-3  LFH 60M TO LFH60M  CISCO ROUTER DCE TO CISCO ROUTER DTE
LFH60
> M/M CROSSOVER 3 FT.  $45.00  Quantity:
>
> CAB-HD60MMX-5  LFH 60M TO LFH60M  CISCO ROUTER DCE TO CISCO ROUTER DTE
LFH60
> M/M CROSSOVER 5 FT.  $46.00  Quantity:
>
> CAB-HD60MMX-10 LFH 60M TO LFH60M  CISCO ROUTER DCE TO CISCO ROUTER DTE
LFH60
> M/M CROSSOVER 10 FT.  $48.00
>
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>
>
> ""Ray Mosely""  wrote in message
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> > It's simple.  Cisco doesn't, to my knowledge,
> > make a back to back cable.  I'm not allowed to
> > order a third party cable.
> > Ray M.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 4:42 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: back to back cables [7:527]
> >
> >
> > Do I even dare ask why you are allowed to use two regular cables but not
> > a back to back cable?
> >
> > Hmm... while writing that I just thought of one good reason.  Whenever
> > I order a back-to-back cable I usually get an RS-232 cable.  This would
> > tend to limit the clock rate between the two routers.  If I needed a
> > higher speed I'd have to find a V.35 back to back cable which seem to be
> > harder to find.
> >
> > If you want V.35:
> >
> > CAB-V35MT=
> > CAB-V35FC=
> >
> > If you want RS-232:
> >
> > CAB-232MT=
> > CAB-232FC=
> >
> > HTH,
> > John
> >
> > >>> "Ray Mosely"  4/13/01 4:29:14 PM >>>
> > I'm sorry to bring up this old old old
> > thread, but I'm in a situation where I
> > need a back to back cable for some 2501's,
> > but I'm not allowed to use a back to back
> > cable.
> >
> > There are two bona fide Cisco cables which
> > can be hooked together to make one back
> > to back cable (at three times the price
> > of a back to back).  Anybody know the
> > part numbers of the Cisco cables?  It's
> > for back to back on the WAN ports.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ray Mosely
> > CCNA, MCSE
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RE: back to back cables [7:527]

2001-04-14 Thread Daniel Cotts

If you attend Partner training given by Cisco SEs they do have back to back
cables with the Cisco logo. Cisco subcontracts most of their manufacturing.
These particular cables are made by LoDanWest. Many Cisco cables have LDW on
them. If you contact LoDan to order the cables they will provide the exact
same cable except that it is black in color and doesn't have the Cisco logo.
Cisco does not allow them to sell cables with the Cisco logo except to Cisco
itself - who then sells them to us. You can buy similar cables elsewhere for
less money.

> -Original Message-
> From: Ray Mosely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 6:25 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: back to back cables [7:527]
> 
> 
> It's simple.  Cisco doesn't, to my knowledge,
> make a back to back cable.  I'm not allowed to
> order a third party cable.
> Ray M.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 4:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: back to back cables [7:527]
> 
> 
> Do I even dare ask why you are allowed to use two regular 
> cables but not
> a back to back cable?
> 
> Hmm... while writing that I just thought of one good reason.  Whenever
> I order a back-to-back cable I usually get an RS-232 cable.  
> This would
> tend to limit the clock rate between the two routers.  If I needed a
> higher speed I'd have to find a V.35 back to back cable which 
> seem to be
> harder to find.
> 
> If you want V.35:
> 
> CAB-V35MT=
> CAB-V35FC=
> 
> If you want RS-232:
> 
> CAB-232MT=
> CAB-232FC=
> 
> HTH,
> John




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Re: back to back cables [7:527]

2001-04-14 Thread Jason J. Roysdon

I'm looking at a cable in my lab, CAB-HD60MMX-5, which is a nice short cable
(5ft) and is DTE 60 pin on one side and DCE 60 pin on the other.  It's got
the Cisco blue and the housing looks just like my other Cisco back-to-back
cable which is actually a DCE-to-v.35 & v.35-to-DTE cable (the only thing
it's missing is a Cisco logo, but not all Cisco gear has the logo).  That's
a Cisco part number and I'm finding it all over the place when I do a Google
search, so I'm sure you can find it direct from Cisco with their markup.
I'd rather just pay $45 for a "Cisco Equivalent Cable" from Pacific Cable
and the like:
http://www.pacificcable.com/CiscoCables.htm

Looks like it's available in 3ft, 5ft & 10ft variations
CAB-HD60MMX-3  LFH 60M TO LFH60M  CISCO ROUTER DCE TO CISCO ROUTER DTE LFH60
M/M CROSSOVER 3 FT.  $45.00  Quantity:

CAB-HD60MMX-5  LFH 60M TO LFH60M  CISCO ROUTER DCE TO CISCO ROUTER DTE LFH60
M/M CROSSOVER 5 FT.  $46.00  Quantity:

CAB-HD60MMX-10 LFH 60M TO LFH60M  CISCO ROUTER DCE TO CISCO ROUTER DTE LFH60
M/M CROSSOVER 10 FT.  $48.00

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> It's simple.  Cisco doesn't, to my knowledge,
> make a back to back cable.  I'm not allowed to
> order a third party cable.
> Ray M.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 4:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: back to back cables [7:527]
>
>
> Do I even dare ask why you are allowed to use two regular cables but not
> a back to back cable?
>
> Hmm... while writing that I just thought of one good reason.  Whenever
> I order a back-to-back cable I usually get an RS-232 cable.  This would
> tend to limit the clock rate between the two routers.  If I needed a
> higher speed I'd have to find a V.35 back to back cable which seem to be
> harder to find.
>
> If you want V.35:
>
> CAB-V35MT=
> CAB-V35FC=
>
> If you want RS-232:
>
> CAB-232MT=
> CAB-232FC=
>
> HTH,
> John
>
> >>> "Ray Mosely"  4/13/01 4:29:14 PM >>>
> I'm sorry to bring up this old old old
> thread, but I'm in a situation where I
> need a back to back cable for some 2501's,
> but I'm not allowed to use a back to back
> cable.
>
> There are two bona fide Cisco cables which
> can be hooked together to make one back
> to back cable (at three times the price
> of a back to back).  Anybody know the
> part numbers of the Cisco cables?  It's
> for back to back on the WAN ports.
>
> Thanks,
> Ray Mosely
> CCNA, MCSE
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RE: back to back cables [7:527]

2001-04-14 Thread Ray Mosely

It's simple.  Cisco doesn't, to my knowledge,
make a back to back cable.  I'm not allowed to
order a third party cable.
Ray M.

-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 4:42 PM
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Subject: Re: back to back cables [7:527]


Do I even dare ask why you are allowed to use two regular cables but not
a back to back cable?

Hmm... while writing that I just thought of one good reason.  Whenever
I order a back-to-back cable I usually get an RS-232 cable.  This would
tend to limit the clock rate between the two routers.  If I needed a
higher speed I'd have to find a V.35 back to back cable which seem to be
harder to find.

If you want V.35:

CAB-V35MT=
CAB-V35FC=

If you want RS-232:

CAB-232MT=
CAB-232FC=

HTH,
John

>>> "Ray Mosely"  4/13/01 4:29:14 PM >>>
I'm sorry to bring up this old old old
thread, but I'm in a situation where I
need a back to back cable for some 2501's,
but I'm not allowed to use a back to back
cable.

There are two bona fide Cisco cables which
can be hooked together to make one back
to back cable (at three times the price
of a back to back).  Anybody know the
part numbers of the Cisco cables?  It's
for back to back on the WAN ports.

Thanks,
Ray Mosely
CCNA, MCSE
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Re: back to back cables [7:527]

2001-04-13 Thread Thomas

Ray,

Visit the http://www.pacificcable.com  It has all Cisco cables and part
number.



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> I'm sorry to bring up this old old old
> thread, but I'm in a situation where I
> need a back to back cable for some 2501's,
> but I'm not allowed to use a back to back
> cable.
>
> There are two bona fide Cisco cables which
> can be hooked together to make one back
> to back cable (at three times the price
> of a back to back).  Anybody know the
> part numbers of the Cisco cables?  It's
> for back to back on the WAN ports.
>
> Thanks,
> Ray Mosely
> CCNA, MCSE
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Re: back to back cables [7:527]

2001-04-13 Thread John Neiberger

Do I even dare ask why you are allowed to use two regular cables but not
a back to back cable?

Hmm... while writing that I just thought of one good reason.  Whenever
I order a back-to-back cable I usually get an RS-232 cable.  This would
tend to limit the clock rate between the two routers.  If I needed a
higher speed I'd have to find a V.35 back to back cable which seem to be
harder to find.

If you want V.35:

CAB-V35MT=
CAB-V35FC=

If you want RS-232:

CAB-232MT=
CAB-232FC=

HTH,
John

>>> "Ray Mosely"  4/13/01 4:29:14 PM >>>
I'm sorry to bring up this old old old
thread, but I'm in a situation where I
need a back to back cable for some 2501's,
but I'm not allowed to use a back to back
cable.

There are two bona fide Cisco cables which
can be hooked together to make one back
to back cable (at three times the price
of a back to back).  Anybody know the
part numbers of the Cisco cables?  It's
for back to back on the WAN ports.

Thanks,
Ray Mosely
CCNA, MCSE
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back to back cables [7:527]

2001-04-13 Thread Ray Mosely

I'm sorry to bring up this old old old
thread, but I'm in a situation where I
need a back to back cable for some 2501's,
but I'm not allowed to use a back to back
cable.

There are two bona fide Cisco cables which
can be hooked together to make one back
to back cable (at three times the price
of a back to back).  Anybody know the
part numbers of the Cisco cables?  It's
for back to back on the WAN ports.

Thanks,
Ray Mosely
CCNA, MCSE




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