books for ccda
sorry to bother everyone. i'm sure this question has been asked numerous times but I'd like to take just one last poll before i go out and spend the $$. what are peoples thoughs on books/references for the ccda? lammle's old 441 guide? DCN? CCDA exam cert guide by kim/bruno? top down network design by oppenheimer? anyone's thoughts on a *combination* of these books you found helpful would be much appreciated. thanks again for your time, AK CCNA **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: books for ccda
This is really a question for the Associates list, but I'll answer it here, as I am not sure if you are signed up for the Associates list. I have been preparing for this exam, but am yet to actually sit the test. I have used both DCN, and Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top-Down Network Design. I have found both to be excellent sources of information, and plan to keep both on my bookshelf as bible-like references in the future. Also, I seem to remember Priscilla having flash cards on her site for prep for the CCDA exam (http://www.priscilla.com). Both very good books, I found Priscilla's writing style more bearable to read as a human trying to read it cover-to-cover. I found DCN to be a good insomnia-breaker, and reference guide for the concepts which I had a hard time grasping from Top-Down (not often, due to Priscilla's excellent explanations). I HAVE read both cover-to-cover.. and highly suggest taking the time to work through the case studies in the DCN book.. as I have heard there are a lot of scenario / case studie questions on the exam. I can not verify this personally, as I have not sat that one. For the DCN book, I have found pdf copies of it floating around on the net. I am not sure about the legality of this, but do a search on Cisco's website for it.. I believe it is usually called dcn.pdf -- I found this file a few days after my return period at Chapters expired.. so I was out the $90CDN it cost me.. OUCH. But well worth the money, if you prefer bound media. Regards, Trevor Corness, CCNA MCSE MCP+I Network Systems Engineer, DataCom BMS Communications Ltd. http://www.bmscom.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Audio Kisei Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 9:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: books for ccda sorry to bother everyone. i'm sure this question has been asked numerous times but I'd like to take just one last poll before i go out and spend the $$. what are peoples thoughs on books/references for the ccda? lammle's old 441 guide? DCN? CCDA exam cert guide by kim/bruno? top down network design by oppenheimer? anyone's thoughts on a *combination* of these books you found helpful would be much appreciated. thanks again for your time, AK CCNA **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Corness;Trevor FN:Trevor Corness ORG:BMS Communications;DataCom TITLE:Network Systems Engineer TEL;PAGER;VOICE:604-631-7867 ADR;WORK:;;2880 Production Way;Burnaby;BC;V5A4T6;Canada LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:2880 Production Way=0D=0ABurnaby, BC V5A4T6=0D=0ACanada URL: URL:http://www.bmscom.com EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:2921T155409Z END:VCARD
Re: books for ccda
I have used DCN (the CD-ROM course) and Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top-Down Network Design. I can endorse on both being excellent resources for the DCN exam, though not without some comment. The CD-ROM course is indeed not much more of a printed book transformed into html, where you can click to and fro in the chapters. This was very awesome and had nothing of the CIMs that are available from Cisco at present, so I printed the whole thing out and worked it through on paper. On the other hand, Priscilla's book is indeed excellent. She has a very readable style (hard enough to find in our business) and offers easily understandable explanations, I consider this book as basic stock for a Networker's library. One word about the case studies: DO WORK THROUGH ALL OF THEM. The DCN offers a wealth of chapter-by-chapter case studies, 'Top-Down...' has two extensive large-scale case-studies. As far as I can recall, about 70% of the exam are case studies, which you have to read (jot down a chart and add all information as you read through, saves time) and then answer questions to certain aspects. Take your time reading the case studies, but watch the clock! There are also some good resources (Design Guidelines) on CCO, so you might check there as well. Cheers, Thomas Meyer CCNA CCDA ""Trevor Corness, CCNA"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This is really a question for the Associates list, but I'll answer it here, > as I am not sure if you are signed up for the Associates list. > I have been preparing for this exam, but am yet to actually sit the test. I > have used both DCN, and Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top-Down Network Design. I > have found both to be excellent sources of information, and plan to keep > both on my bookshelf as bible-like references in the future. Also, I seem > to remember Priscilla having flash cards on her site for prep for the CCDA > exam (http://www.priscilla.com). > > Both very good books, I found Priscilla's writing style more bearable to > read as a human trying to read it cover-to-cover. I found DCN to be a good > insomnia-breaker, and reference guide for the concepts which I had a hard > time grasping from Top-Down (not often, due to Priscilla's excellent > explanations). I HAVE read both cover-to-cover.. and highly suggest taking > the time to work through the case studies in the DCN book.. as I have heard > there are a lot of scenario / case studie questions on the exam. I can not > verify this personally, as I have not sat that one. > > For the DCN book, I have found pdf copies of it floating around on the net. > I am not sure about the legality of this, but do a search on Cisco's website > for it.. I believe it is usually called dcn.pdf -- I found this file a few > days after my return period at Chapters expired.. so I was out the $90CDN it > cost me.. OUCH. But well worth the money, if you prefer bound media. > > Regards, > Trevor Corness, CCNA MCSE MCP+I > Network Systems Engineer, DataCom > BMS Communications Ltd. > http://www.bmscom.com > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Audio Kisei > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 9:56 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: books for ccda > > > sorry to bother everyone. i'm sure this question has been asked numerous > times but I'd like to take just one last poll before i go out and spend the > $$. what are peoples thoughs on books/references for the ccda? lammle's > old 441 guide? DCN? CCDA exam cert guide by kim/bruno? top down network > design by oppenheimer? > > anyone's thoughts on a *combination* of these books you found helpful would > be much appreciated. > > thanks again for your time, > > AK > > CCNA > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: books for ccda
I used the lammle book for the ccda exam about 2 weeks ago and passed. I did have to brush up on some ccna stuff as well. You just need to have some lateral thinking and know how to apply what is written in the book Otherwise - in my opinion the book is sufficient Andrew -Original Message- From: Audio Kisei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 October 2000 06:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: books for ccda sorry to bother everyone. i'm sure this question has been asked numerous times but I'd like to take just one last poll before i go out and spend the $$. what are peoples thoughs on books/references for the ccda? lammle's old 441 guide? DCN? CCDA exam cert guide by kim/bruno? top down network design by oppenheimer? anyone's thoughts on a *combination* of these books you found helpful would be much appreciated. thanks again for your time, AK CCNA **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: books for ccda
thanks for your idea/tips/suggestions. i'm sorry i bugged the groupstudy.cisco list with this question but i am glad to have found some suggestions from people who have already sat the exam such as yourselves. thanks again for taking the time, i hope i can make up the favor in the future, AK ""Audio Kisei"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8red8d$dt6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8red8d$dt6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > sorry to bother everyone. i'm sure this question has been asked numerous > times but I'd like to take just one last poll before i go out and spend the > $$. what are peoples thoughs on books/references for the ccda? lammle's > old 441 guide? DCN? CCDA exam cert guide by kim/bruno? top down network > design by oppenheimer? > > anyone's thoughts on a *combination* of these books you found helpful would > be much appreciated. > > thanks again for your time, > > AK > > CCNA > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: books for ccda
Thank-you very much for the endorsement of my book, Top-Down Network Design! Not that it really matters, but you have the history a bit wrong. The history is that I developed the first version of Designing Cisco Networks in HTML format. It was one of the first Web-based courses around. It languished on an internal server at Cisco for quite a while. I didn't expect it to go anywhere. For unrelated reasons, I left Cisco to write my book, Top-Down Network Design. While writing, I did not know that Cisco was going to resurrect my class and also turn it into a certification program. So my book is not officially a "certification book." But, alas Cisco did resurrect my class, updated it, and gave it to Cisco Press to port to book format. They also wrote a test based on it. So the DCN CD, Web site (if you can still find it), and book are great tools to use to study for the test. My book is also very helpful, but not quite as targeted. Good luck to those of you getting this worthwhile certification! Priscilla P.S. I don't have flash cards on this subject as someone else mentioned. I have a philosophical aversion to testing design skills this way. &;-) My flash cards are for CIT. At 08:30 AM 10/4/00, Thomas Meyer wrote: >I have used DCN (the CD-ROM course) and Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top-Down >Network Design. I can endorse on both being excellent resources for the DCN >exam, though not without some comment. >The CD-ROM course is indeed not much more of a printed book transformed into >html, where you can click to and fro in the chapters. This was very awesome >and had nothing of the CIMs that are available from Cisco at present, so I >printed the whole thing out and worked it through on paper. >On the other hand, Priscilla's book is indeed excellent. She has a very >readable style (hard enough to find in our business) and offers easily >understandable explanations, I consider this book as basic stock for a >Networker's library. >One word about the case studies: DO WORK THROUGH ALL OF THEM. The DCN offers >a wealth of chapter-by-chapter case studies, 'Top-Down...' has two extensive >large-scale case-studies. As far as I can recall, about 70% of the exam are >case studies, which you have to read (jot down a chart and add all >information as you read through, saves time) and then answer questions to >certain aspects. Take your time reading the case studies, but watch the >clock! >There are also some good resources (Design Guidelines) on CCO, so you might >check there as well. > >Cheers, > >Thomas Meyer >CCNA CCDA > >""Trevor Corness, CCNA"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > This is really a question for the Associates list, but I'll answer it >here, > > as I am not sure if you are signed up for the Associates list. > > I have been preparing for this exam, but am yet to actually sit the test. >I > > have used both DCN, and Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top-Down Network Design. >I > > have found both to be excellent sources of information, and plan to keep > > both on my bookshelf as bible-like references in the future. Also, I seem > > to remember Priscilla having flash cards on her site for prep for the CCDA > > exam (http://www.priscilla.com). > > > > Both very good books, I found Priscilla's writing style more bearable to > > read as a human trying to read it cover-to-cover. I found DCN to be a >good > > insomnia-breaker, and reference guide for the concepts which I had a hard > > time grasping from Top-Down (not often, due to Priscilla's excellent > > explanations). I HAVE read both cover-to-cover.. and highly suggest >taking > > the time to work through the case studies in the DCN book.. as I have >heard > > there are a lot of scenario / case studie questions on the exam. I can >not > > verify this personally, as I have not sat that one. > > > > For the DCN book, I have found pdf copies of it floating around on the >net. > > I am not sure about the legality of this, but do a search on Cisco's >website > > for it.. I believe it is usually called dcn.pdf -- I found this file a few > > days after my return period at Chapters expired.. so I was out the $90CDN >it > > cost me.. OUCH. But well worth the money, if you prefer bound media. > > > > Regards, > > Trevor Corness, CCNA MCSE MCP+I > > Network Systems Engineer, DataCom > > BMS Communications Ltd. > > http://www.bmscom.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Audio Kisei > > Sent: Tuesday,
