fao: Catalyst Gurus [7:8177]

2001-06-12 Thread Larry Ogun-Banjo

We have just installed some new catalyst switches 650x and 69xx. I have
noticed
that whenever I connected with a fluke to test connectivity on the ports, it
takes approximately 20 secs to get its first contact with another device. I'm
aware the switch port needs to learn the mac address etc but I would not have
thought it would take so long. Are there any commands that would speedup the
network discovery or is this normal behaviour on a new port?
Pardon this trivial question but it would help.




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Re: fao: Catalyst Gurus [7:8177]

2001-06-12 Thread Colin Byelong

you should enable portfast (diasbles stp)
this should speed things up

Cheers

Colin




At 11:29 AM 6/12/01 -0400, Larry Ogun-Banjo wrote:
>We have just installed some new catalyst switches 650x and 69xx. I have
>noticed
>that whenever I connected with a fluke to test connectivity on the ports, it
>takes approximately 20 secs to get its first contact with another device.
I'm
>aware the switch port needs to learn the mac address etc but I would not
have
>thought it would take so long. Are there any commands that would speedup the
>network discovery or is this normal behaviour on a new port?
>Pardon this trivial question but it would help.
Colin Byelong Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network Group
Information Systems Division
University College London
Gower Street  Phone: 020 7679-2572
London WC1E 6BT





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Re: fao: Catalyst Gurus [7:8177]

2001-06-12 Thread John Neiberger

You are experiencing the Spanning Tree process, which blocks ports
temporarily while it determines if you just have hosts connected to that
port or if you are connecting additional switches.  This process takes
about 30 seconds.  If you want to turn this off on a port-by-port basis
you need to enable a feature called PortFast.  I don't know the exact
syntax on a 6500 so you'll have to check into that.

HTH,
John

>>> "Larry Ogun-Banjo"  6/12/01 9:29:53 AM
>>>
We have just installed some new catalyst switches 650x and 69xx. I
have
noticed
that whenever I connected with a fluke to test connectivity on the
ports, it
takes approximately 20 secs to get its first contact with another
device. I'm
aware the switch port needs to learn the mac address etc but I would
not have
thought it would take so long. Are there any commands that would
speedup the
network discovery or is this normal behaviour on a new port?
Pardon this trivial question but it would help.




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Re: fao: Catalyst Gurus [7:8177]

2001-06-12 Thread Reinhold Fischer

Larry,

two things that can cause the delay: 

STP - Spanning Tree Protocol

Solution: 'set spantree portfast  enable'
(Use it only on end-station ports)

PAgP - Port Aggregation Protocol

Solution: 'set port channel  off'
(PAgP is enabled by default on EtherChannel capable links)

HTH

Reinhold

On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Larry Ogun-Banjo wrote:

> We have just installed some new catalyst switches 650x and 69xx. I have
> noticed
> that whenever I connected with a fluke to test connectivity on the ports,
it
> takes approximately 20 secs to get its first contact with another device.
I'm
> aware the switch port needs to learn the mac address etc but I would not
have
> thought it would take so long. Are there any commands that would speedup
the
> network discovery or is this normal behaviour on a new port?
> Pardon this trivial question but it would help.




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Re: fao: Catalyst Gurus [7:8177]

2001-06-12 Thread Reinhold Fischer

Not quite correct. PortFast does not disable STP. It puts a port initially
into 'Forwarding' state and then watches if loops occur. If for some reason
the port is forced into 'Blocking' state and later needs to return to the
'Forwarding' state, it has to go through the 'Listening' and 'Learning'
phases.

hth

Reinhold

On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Colin Byelong wrote:

> you should enable portfast (diasbles stp)
> this should speed things up
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Colin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 11:29 AM 6/12/01 -0400, Larry Ogun-Banjo wrote:
> >We have just installed some new catalyst switches 650x and 69xx. I have
> >noticed
> >that whenever I connected with a fluke to test connectivity on the ports,
it
> >takes approximately 20 secs to get its first contact with another device.
> I'm
> >aware the switch port needs to learn the mac address etc but I would not
> have
> >thought it would take so long. Are there any commands that would speedup
the
> >network discovery or is this normal behaviour on a new port?
> >Pardon this trivial question but it would help.
> Colin Byelong Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Network Group
> Information Systems Division
> University College London
> Gower Street  Phone: 020 7679-2572
> London WC1E 6BT
> 




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Re: fao: Catalyst Gurus [7:8177]

2001-06-12 Thread Colin Byelong

Thanks for clarifying that.

cheers 

Colin

At 06:16 PM 6/12/01 +0200, Reinhold Fischer wrote:
>Not quite correct. PortFast does not disable STP. It puts a port initially
>into 'Forwarding' state and then watches if loops occur. If for some reason
>the port is forced into 'Blocking' state and later needs to return to the
>'Forwarding' state, it has to go through the 'Listening' and 'Learning'
>phases.
>
>hth
>
>Reinhold
>
>On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Colin Byelong wrote:
>
>> you should enable portfast (diasbles stp)
>> this should speed things up
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Colin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At 11:29 AM 6/12/01 -0400, Larry Ogun-Banjo wrote:
>> >We have just installed some new catalyst switches 650x and 69xx. I have
>> >noticed
>> >that whenever I connected with a fluke to test connectivity on the
ports, it
>> >takes approximately 20 secs to get its first contact with another device.
>> I'm
>> >aware the switch port needs to learn the mac address etc but I would not
>> have
>> >thought it would take so long. Are there any commands that would
speedup the
>> >network discovery or is this normal behaviour on a new port?
>> >Pardon this trivial question but it would help.
>> Colin Byelong Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Network Group
>> Information Systems Division
>> University College London
>> Gower Street  Phone: 020 7679-2572
>> London WC1E 6BT
>> 
> 
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Information Systems Division
University College London
Gower Street  Phone: 020 7679-2572
London WC1E 6BT





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Re: fao: Catalyst Gurus [7:8177]

2001-06-12 Thread Larry Ogun-Banjo

Many thanks for everyones contribution on this issue. I forgot to mention
that
Spanning tree is not enabled. No tbeing too familiar with switches, I'm not
sure
on the effect of PAgP.





Reinhold Fischer  on 06/12/2001 06:09:51 PM

To:   Larry Ogun-Banjo/EN/Kpn-Orange@kpn-orange
cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject:  Re: fao: Catalyst Gurus [7:8177]



Larry,

two things that can cause the delay:

STP - Spanning Tree Protocol

Solution: 'set spantree portfast  enable'
(Use it only on end-station ports)

PAgP - Port Aggregation Protocol

Solution: 'set port channel  off'
(PAgP is enabled by default on EtherChannel capable links)

HTH

Reinhold

On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Larry Ogun-Banjo wrote:

> We have just installed some new catalyst switches 650x and 69xx. I have
> noticed
> that whenever I connected with a fluke to test connectivity on the ports,
it
> takes approximately 20 secs to get its first contact with another device.
I'm
> aware the switch port needs to learn the mac address etc but I would not
have
> thought it would take so long. Are there any commands that would speedup
the
> network discovery or is this normal behaviour on a new port?
> Pardon this trivial question but it would help.




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Re: fao: Catalyst Gurus [7:8177]

2001-06-12 Thread Reinhold Fischer

EtherChannel allows you to bundle physical links into one logical link.
As example you can create a 200Mpbs pipe out of 2 100Mbps links. PAgP
is the protocol that negotiates this channel. PAgP is by default active
on all ports that are EtherChannel capable. PAgP uses the first 15 to 20
seconds after link initialization to try to negotiate an EtherChannel.
If you don't intend to use EtherChannel you can safely disable PAgP.

Greetings 

Reinhold

On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Larry Ogun-Banjo wrote:

> Many thanks for everyones contribution on this issue. I forgot to mention
that
> Spanning tree is not enabled. No tbeing too familiar with switches, I'm
not sure
> on the effect of PAgP.
> 
> 
> Reinhold Fischer  on 06/12/2001 06:09:51 PM
> 
> To:   Larry Ogun-Banjo/EN/Kpn-Orange@kpn-orange
> cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: fao: Catalyst Gurus [7:8177]
> 
> Larry,
> 
> two things that can cause the delay:
> 
> STP - Spanning Tree Protocol
> 
> Solution: 'set spantree portfast  enable'
> (Use it only on end-station ports)
> 
> PAgP - Port Aggregation Protocol
> 
> Solution: 'set port channel  off'
> (PAgP is enabled by default on EtherChannel capable links)
> 
> HTH
> 
> Reinhold
> 
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Larry Ogun-Banjo wrote:
> 
> > We have just installed some new catalyst switches 650x and 69xx. I have
> > noticed
> > that whenever I connected with a fluke to test connectivity on the
ports, it
> > takes approximately 20 secs to get its first contact with another
device. I'm
> > aware the switch port needs to learn the mac address etc but I would not
have
> > thought it would take so long. Are there any commands that would speedup
the
> > network discovery or is this normal behaviour on a new port?
> > Pardon this trivial question but it would help.




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Re: fao: Catalyst Gurus [7:8177]

2001-06-12 Thread Peter I. Slow, CCNP

it'll speed things upp, but it sure as hell will NOT disable STP on that
interface.

Peter Slow, CCNP Voice Specialist
Network Engineer
Planetary Networks

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Subject: Re: fao: Catalyst Gurus [7:8177]


> you should enable portfast (diasbles stp)
> this should speed things up
>
> Cheers
>
> Colin
>
>
>
>
> At 11:29 AM 6/12/01 -0400, Larry Ogun-Banjo wrote:
> >We have just installed some new catalyst switches 650x and 69xx. I have
> >noticed
> >that whenever I connected with a fluke to test connectivity on the ports,
it
> >takes approximately 20 secs to get its first contact with another device.
> I'm
> >aware the switch port needs to learn the mac address etc but I would not
> have
> >thought it would take so long. Are there any commands that would speedup
the
> >network discovery or is this normal behaviour on a new port?
> >Pardon this trivial question but it would help.
> Colin Byelong Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Network Group
> Information Systems Division
> University College London
> Gower Street  Phone: 020 7679-2572
> London WC1E 6BT
> 




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