for PIX VPN gurus... [7:58448]

2002-12-03 Thread Edward Sohn
I have a requirement in which a single Headquarters PIX needs to VPN
over the internet to a single remote site which have two separate PIXes
(connected the same site LAN).  The goal is to introduce redundancy into
the VPN connection to the remote site.  Unfortunately, it has to be like
this due to the company's hardware limitations.

This is not a classic PIX failover configuration via the serial method
(515, 525, 535), but two separate PIX 506's connected separately to the
same LAN.

I can't find anywhere on CCO whether this config is supported, and the
TAC engineer is also clueless (he even said that he doesn't have a way
to LAB it up--can you believe that?.  This is Cisco we're talking about
here).

Anyway, anybody ever done something like this?  Will this work?  Can
somebody test this?

BTW, I need to know ASAP, because the customer wants to implement this
immediately if it will work.

Thanks,

Eddie




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RE: for PIX VPN gurus... [7:58448]

2002-12-03 Thread Roberts, Larry
Taking a guess, but could you specify multiple destination IP's under the
crypto map peer statement?

PIX#(config) crypto map TEST 10 set peer 10.20.30.1 10.20.30.2

PIX#(config) show crypto map
Crypto Map: TEST interfaces: { }

Crypto Map TEST 10 ipsec-isakmp
Peer = 10.20.30.1
Peer = 10.20.30.2
No matching address list set.
Current peer: 10.20.30.1
Security association lifetime: 4608000 kilobytes/28800 seconds
PFS (Y/N): N
Transform sets={ }

I believe that this will first cause it to build to .1, and if it is
unavailable to .2
I would be curious as to how your going to handle the internal routing back
to the corporate site?
I think that would be a stumbling block from what I can tell.


Thanks

Larry
 

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I have a requirement in which a single Headquarters PIX needs to VPN over
the internet to a single remote site which have two separate PIXes
(connected the same site LAN).  The goal is to introduce redundancy into the
VPN connection to the remote site.  Unfortunately, it has to be like this
due to the company's hardware limitations.

This is not a classic PIX failover configuration via the serial method
(515, 525, 535), but two separate PIX 506's connected separately to the same
LAN.

I can't find anywhere on CCO whether this config is supported, and the TAC
engineer is also clueless (he even said that he doesn't have a way to LAB it
up--can you believe that?.  This is Cisco we're talking about here).

Anyway, anybody ever done something like this?  Will this work?  Can
somebody test this?

BTW, I need to know ASAP, because the customer wants to implement this
immediately if it will work.

Thanks,

Eddie




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RE: for PIX VPN gurus... [7:58448]

2002-12-03 Thread Daniel Cotts
A diagram would help. I'm visualizing the remote site as having one Internet
connection. The gateway router's inside interface connects to a hub/switch.
The outside interfaces of the two 506s connect to this hub/switch. The
inside interfaces of the 506s connect to a second (common) hub/switch which
is the LAN. So the two 506s are in parallel. True?

I repeat the mantra of this list. What is the problem that you are trying
to solve? What is the perceived problem? What is the supposed solution?
Does the solution really fix the problem?

Can you be more clear about how redundancy will be provided. Is the
customer concerned about a PIX failing? Does he need both 506s working at
the same time?
 
If not, one could be on line with the other as a cold spare (either
installed or on the shelf.) Imagine the joy of keeping those configs in
sync!!
 
If so, then I'm guessing that the 506s are in parallel. Then each requires
its own outside address - which is different from a standard failover
scenario. Can you create a VPN from HQ to each 506 - with one preferred?

 -Original Message-
 From: Edward Sohn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 10:14 AM
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 Subject: for PIX VPN gurus... [7:58448]
 
 
 I have a requirement in which a single Headquarters PIX needs to VPN
 over the internet to a single remote site which have two 
 separate PIXes
 (connected the same site LAN).  The goal is to introduce 
 redundancy into
 the VPN connection to the remote site.  Unfortunately, it has 
 to be like
 this due to the company's hardware limitations.
 
 This is not a classic PIX failover configuration via the 
 serial method
 (515, 525, 535), but two separate PIX 506's connected 
 separately to the
 same LAN.
 
 I can't find anywhere on CCO whether this config is supported, and the
 TAC engineer is also clueless (he even said that he doesn't have a way
 to LAB it up--can you believe that?.  This is Cisco we're 
 talking about
 here).
 
 Anyway, anybody ever done something like this?  Will this work?  Can
 somebody test this?

 Thanks,
 
 Eddie




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RE: for PIX VPN gurus... [7:58448]

2002-12-03 Thread Edward Sohn
Larry,

Good find, however, we are GRE tunneling EIGRP across
sites.  This is before the PIXes.

Thanks,

Ed

--- Roberts, Larry 
wrote:
 Taking a guess, but could you specify multiple
 destination IP's under the
 crypto map peer statement?
 
 PIX#(config) crypto map TEST 10 set peer 10.20.30.1
 10.20.30.2
 
 PIX#(config) show crypto map
 Crypto Map: TEST interfaces: { }
 
 Crypto Map TEST 10 ipsec-isakmp
 Peer = 10.20.30.1
 Peer = 10.20.30.2
 No matching address list set.
 Current peer: 10.20.30.1
 Security association lifetime: 4608000
 kilobytes/28800 seconds
 PFS (Y/N): N
 Transform sets={ }
 
 I believe that this will first cause it to build to
 .1, and if it is
 unavailable to .2
 I would be curious as to how your going to handle
 the internal routing back
 to the corporate site?
 I think that would be a stumbling block from what I
 can tell.
 
 
 Thanks
 
 Larry
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Edward Sohn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:14 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: for PIX VPN gurus... [7:58448]
 
 
 I have a requirement in which a single Headquarters
 PIX needs to VPN over
 the internet to a single remote site which have two
 separate PIXes
 (connected the same site LAN).  The goal is to
 introduce redundancy into the
 VPN connection to the remote site.  Unfortunately,
 it has to be like this
 due to the company's hardware limitations.
 
 This is not a classic PIX failover configuration
 via the serial method
 (515, 525, 535), but two separate PIX 506's
 connected separately to the same
 LAN.
 
 I can't find anywhere on CCO whether this config is
 supported, and the TAC
 engineer is also clueless (he even said that he
 doesn't have a way to LAB it
 up--can you believe that?.  This is Cisco we're
 talking about here).
 
 Anyway, anybody ever done something like this?  Will
 this work?  Can
 somebody test this?
 
 BTW, I need to know ASAP, because the customer wants
 to implement this
 immediately if it will work.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Eddie
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