Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-29 Thread Richard Chang

I can simply use the quote from Michael Williams' message above to answer
your question...

1. A loopback is a logical interface that never goes down.  It's used for
various reasons (for setting up various kinds of tunnels, for setting who is
the DR/BDR in OSPF, etc).

2. Many people use the subnet mask 255.255.255.255 because
that's the only way to assign a single IP to the lookback instead of using
more than 1 IP address. Therefore, you normally won't see /24s on loopback
interfaces.

Richard

Sim, CT (Chee Tong)  wrote in message
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 I have seems some routers with many lookback interfaces configured.  May I
 know what is the purpose to have so many lookback? I thought one loopback
 can help us to troubleshoot the connectivity

 Besides, I am interested about question 5 from Richard, you said the
 lookback IPs within same network can be configured on different router.
 Does it mean that if we configured many lookback interfaces, those IPs
must
 be in different network.  for example 192.168.101.101/24
192.168.102.102/24.
 But Any one know what is the reason??


  5) If I configured  A's loopback IP to be 192.168.0.1/24, can we still
  configured B's loopback to be 192.168.0.2/24?  Note: there are in same
  network.
 Sure you can since they are in two different routers. I won't recommend
 doing this though...

 The point is, there is no magic behind a loopback interface as you still
 need physical interface and routing entries if you need access.

 Richard

 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 1:51 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


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 Susan Stone  wrote in message
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  Hi..
 
  Sorry, I need a few more questions to verify whether my understanding on
  loopback is correct or not? Pls answer it.
 
  1) If I have two router A (loopback=192.168.0.1/32) and B
  (loopback192.168.0.2/32), Router A's S1 int 100.100.100.1/24 is
connected
 to
  Router B's S1 100.100.100.2/24. There are no more other connection.  If
S1
  of B is down.  Can I still telnet from A to B using B's loopback
address.
 No.
 
  2) If Router A and B have another connection. Router A's S2 int
  100.200.100.1/24 is connected to Router B's S2 100.200.100.2/24.  If S1
of
 B
  is down.  Can I still telnet from A to B using B's loopback address?
 Yes, if you have correct routing entries.
 
  3) If  Router A doesn't have loopback int configured.  Can we still
telnet
  from A to B?
 Of course you can simply telnet into any physical interface that's still
up.

 
  4) Whether the loopback IP address need to be in order or same network?
 Let
  say Router A's loopback is 192.168.0.1/32 and Router B's loopback is
  20.20.20.1/8.  Can we still telnet from A to B?

 Again, yes, if you have correct routing entries.
 
  5) If I configured  A's loopback IP to be 192.168.0.1/24, can we still
  configured B's loopback to be 192.168.0.2/24?  Note: there are in same
  network.
 Sure you can since they are in two different routers. I won't recommend
 doing this though...

 The point is, there is no magic behind a loopback interface as you still
 need physical interface and routing entries if you need access.

 Richard

 
 
 
 
 
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RE: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-28 Thread Sim, CT (Chee Tong)

I have seems some routers with many lookback interfaces configured.  May I
know what is the purpose to have so many lookback? I thought one loopback
can help us to troubleshoot the connectivity

Besides, I am interested about question 5 from Richard, you said the
lookback IPs within same network can be configured on different router.
Does it mean that if we configured many lookback interfaces, those IPs must
be in different network.  for example 192.168.101.101/24 192.168.102.102/24.
But Any one know what is the reason??   


 5) If I configured  A's loopback IP to be 192.168.0.1/24, can we still
 configured B's loopback to be 192.168.0.2/24?  Note: there are in same
 network.
Sure you can since they are in two different routers. I won't recommend
doing this though...

The point is, there is no magic behind a loopback interface as you still
need physical interface and routing entries if you need access.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Richard Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 1:51 AM
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Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


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Susan Stone  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hi..

 Sorry, I need a few more questions to verify whether my understanding on
 loopback is correct or not? Pls answer it.

 1) If I have two router A (loopback=192.168.0.1/32) and B
 (loopback192.168.0.2/32), Router A's S1 int 100.100.100.1/24 is connected
to
 Router B's S1 100.100.100.2/24. There are no more other connection.  If S1
 of B is down.  Can I still telnet from A to B using B's loopback address.
No.

 2) If Router A and B have another connection. Router A's S2 int
 100.200.100.1/24 is connected to Router B's S2 100.200.100.2/24.  If S1 of
B
 is down.  Can I still telnet from A to B using B's loopback address?
Yes, if you have correct routing entries.

 3) If  Router A doesn't have loopback int configured.  Can we still telnet
 from A to B?
Of course you can simply telnet into any physical interface that's still up.


 4) Whether the loopback IP address need to be in order or same network?
Let
 say Router A's loopback is 192.168.0.1/32 and Router B's loopback is
 20.20.20.1/8.  Can we still telnet from A to B?

Again, yes, if you have correct routing entries.

 5) If I configured  A's loopback IP to be 192.168.0.1/24, can we still
 configured B's loopback to be 192.168.0.2/24?  Note: there are in same
 network.
Sure you can since they are in two different routers. I won't recommend
doing this though...

The point is, there is no magic behind a loopback interface as you still
need physical interface and routing entries if you need access.

Richard





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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-27 Thread Susan Stone

Hi..

Sorry, I need a few more questions to verify whether my understanding on 
loopback is correct or not? Pls answer it.

1) If I have two router A (loopback=192.168.0.1/32) and B 
(loopback192.168.0.2/32), Router A's S1 int 100.100.100.1/24 is connected to 
Router B's S1 100.100.100.2/24. There are no more other connection.  If S1 
of B is down.  Can I still telnet from A to B using B's loopback address.

2) If Router A and B have another connection. Router A's S2 int 
100.200.100.1/24 is connected to Router B's S2 100.200.100.2/24.  If S1 of B 
is down.  Can I still telnet from A to B using B's loopback address?

3) If  Router A doesn't have loopback int configured.  Can we still telnet 
from A to B?

4) Whether the loopback IP address need to be in order or same network?  Let 
say Router A's loopback is 192.168.0.1/32 and Router B's loopback is 
20.20.20.1/8.  Can we still telnet from A to B?

5) If I configured  A's loopback IP to be 192.168.0.1/24, can we still 
configured B's loopback to be 192.168.0.2/24?  Note: there are in same 
network.




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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-27 Thread Richard Chang

See lines below.


Susan Stone  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hi..

 Sorry, I need a few more questions to verify whether my understanding on
 loopback is correct or not? Pls answer it.

 1) If I have two router A (loopback=192.168.0.1/32) and B
 (loopback192.168.0.2/32), Router A's S1 int 100.100.100.1/24 is connected
to
 Router B's S1 100.100.100.2/24. There are no more other connection.  If S1
 of B is down.  Can I still telnet from A to B using B's loopback address.
No.

 2) If Router A and B have another connection. Router A's S2 int
 100.200.100.1/24 is connected to Router B's S2 100.200.100.2/24.  If S1 of
B
 is down.  Can I still telnet from A to B using B's loopback address?
Yes, if you have correct routing entries.

 3) If  Router A doesn't have loopback int configured.  Can we still telnet
 from A to B?
Of course you can simply telnet into any physical interface that's still up.


 4) Whether the loopback IP address need to be in order or same network?
Let
 say Router A's loopback is 192.168.0.1/32 and Router B's loopback is
 20.20.20.1/8.  Can we still telnet from A to B?

Again, yes, if you have correct routing entries.

 5) If I configured  A's loopback IP to be 192.168.0.1/24, can we still
 configured B's loopback to be 192.168.0.2/24?  Note: there are in same
 network.
Sure you can since they are in two different routers. I won't recommend
doing this though...

The point is, there is no magic behind a loopback interface as you still
need physical interface and routing entries if you need access.

Richard





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what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Susan Stone

Hi,

I always wonder what is loopback interface for?  Can anyone explained its 
function? Can we don't configure the loopback interface. Our WAN Lookback 
always start with 192.168.X.X why?  Must we use private IP? I found I can 
telnet to a remote router using its loopback IP.  But I wonder How I route 
as it always have the subnet mask  of 255.255.255.255.  Then which is the 
network and which the host

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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Michael L. Williams

A loopback is a logical interface that never goes down.  It's used for
various reasons (for setting up various kinds of tunnels, for setting who is
the DR/BDR in OSPF, etc).  It can be set to any valid IP in your network,
not just private.  Many people use the subnet mask 255.255.255.255 because
that's the only way to assign a single IP to the lookback instead of using
more than 1 IP address.

Mike W.

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 Hi,

 I always wonder what is loopback interface for?  Can anyone explained its
 function? Can we don't configure the loopback interface. Our WAN Lookback
 always start with 192.168.X.X why?  Must we use private IP? I found I can
 telnet to a remote router using its loopback IP.  But I wonder How I route
 as it always have the subnet mask  of 255.255.255.255.  Then which is the
 network and which the host

 Susan
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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Ednilson Rosa

A loopback interface may be used for many purposes. You may use it as the
end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may configure it just to have
a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.

You don't need to configure it. They are optional and you may use any
address you want. If loopback intfs are following a specific address scheme
in your network, then they must be planned for some specific function by who
designed the network. You should not change it before knowing what function
is this (what may be achieved by analyzing your configuration carefully).

The subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also necessarily /24. This is
frequently used though, to economize address space, since you don't need to
differentiate network and host on this segment. In this case, host and
network are the same and routing is performed with no problem.

ER
CCNA

- Original Message -
From: Susan Stone 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 7:22 AM
Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


Hi,

I always wonder what is loopback interface for?  Can anyone explained its
function? Can we don't configure the loopback interface. Our WAN Lookback
always start with 192.168.X.X why?  Must we use private IP? I found I can
telnet to a remote router using its loopback IP.  But I wonder How I route
as it always have the subnet mask  of 255.255.255.255.  Then which is the
network and which the host

Susan
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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Ednilson Rosa

Sorry,

Just a correction: the mask usually used for a loopback intf is /32
(255.255.255.255) and not /24 (255.255.255.0).

Rgards,

ER
CCNA

- Original Message -
From: Ednilson Rosa 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


A loopback interface may be used for many purposes. You may use it as the
end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may configure it just to have
a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.

You don't need to configure it. They are optional and you may use any
address you want. If loopback intfs are following a specific address scheme
in your network, then they must be planned for some specific function by who
designed the network. You should not change it before knowing what function
is this (what may be achieved by analyzing your configuration carefully).

The subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also necessarily /24. This is
frequently used though, to economize address space, since you don't need to
differentiate network and host on this segment. In this case, host and
network are the same and routing is performed with no problem.

ER
CCNA

- Original Message -
From: Susan Stone
To:
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 7:22 AM
Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


Hi,

I always wonder what is loopback interface for?  Can anyone explained its
function? Can we don't configure the loopback interface. Our WAN Lookback
always start with 192.168.X.X why?  Must we use private IP? I found I can
telnet to a remote router using its loopback IP.  But I wonder How I route
as it always have the subnet mask  of 255.255.255.255.  Then which is the
network and which the host

Susan
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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Inno. Ama

Sue, 

In addition to what ER had to say, the main purpose of
loopback address is actually contained in your
question.loopback interface is always up/up, and
this helps you to possibly get into the router when
there is problem and all interfaces fail, now you can
see what is going on and troubleshoot after you have
telneted into the router

inno/ccnp
--- Ednilson Rosa  wrote:
 Sorry,
 
 Just a correction: the mask usually used for a
 loopback intf is /32
 (255.255.255.255) and not /24 (255.255.255.0).
 
 Rgards,
 
 ER
 CCNA
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Ednilson Rosa 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20 PM
 Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ?
 [7:9493]
 
 
 A loopback interface may be used for many purposes.
 You may use it as the
 end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may
 configure it just to have
 a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.
 
 You don't need to configure it. They are optional
 and you may use any
 address you want. If loopback intfs are following a
 specific address scheme
 in your network, then they must be planned for some
 specific function by who
 designed the network. You should not change it
 before knowing what function
 is this (what may be achieved by analyzing your
 configuration carefully).
 
 The subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also
 necessarily /24. This is
 frequently used though, to economize address space,
 since you don't need to
 differentiate network and host on this segment. In
 this case, host and
 network are the same and routing is performed with
 no problem.
 
 ER
 CCNA
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Susan Stone
 To:
 Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 7:22 AM
 Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I always wonder what is loopback interface for?  Can
 anyone explained its
 function? Can we don't configure the loopback
 interface. Our WAN Lookback
 always start with 192.168.X.X why?  Must we use
 private IP? I found I can
 telnet to a remote router using its loopback IP. 
 But I wonder How I route
 as it always have the subnet mask  of
 255.255.255.255.  Then which is the
 network and which the host
 
 Susan

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RE: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread FELIX KISSIEDU

Looback interface is a logical interface on your router such that when your
router interface(s) goes down your loopback interface still stays up up. the
subnet mask normally assigned is 255.255.255.0 not 255.255.255.255 and this
is done so that only one Ip address can be assigned to the loobak interface.
It's normally used is ospf networks to configure your router(s) as
designated or backup designated router(s).


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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread kevin jones

Can you explain to me how you can telnet into the router if all
interfaces fail with the exception of the loopback interface?  If ALL
interfaces fail, the only way you can get to the router is via console or
AUX.  And you call yourself a CCNP.  No wonder the value of Cisco
certification value (with the exception of the CCIE) is becoming less
desirable these days.

Kevin

Juniper Network Certified Internet Expert (JNCIE)

Qwest Communiations

 

From: Inno. Ama Reply-To: Inno. Ama To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] Date: Fri, 22
Jun 2001 14:57:53 -0400  Sue,  In addition to what ER had to say, the
main purpose of loopback address is actually contained in your
question.loopback interface is always up/up, and this helps you to
possibly get into the router when there is problem and all interfaces
fail, now you can see what is going on and troubleshoot after you have
telneted into the router  inno/ccnp --- Ednilson Rosa wrote:  
Sorry, Just a correction: the mask usually used for a  
loopback intf is /32   (255.255.255.255) and not /24 (255.255.255.0). 
   Rgards, ER   CCNA - Original Message - 
 From: Ednilson Rosa   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20 PM 
 Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ?   [7:9493]  
A loopback interface may be used for many purposes.   You may use it as
the   end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may   configure
it just to have   a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.
You don't need to configure it. They are optional   and you may use any
  address you want. If loopback intfs are following a   specific
address scheme   in your network, then they must be planned for some 
 specific function by who   designed the network. You should not
change it   before knowing what function   is this (what may be
achieved by analyzing your   configuration carefully). The
subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also   necessarily /24. This
is   frequently used though, to economize address space,   since you
don't need to   differentiate network and host on this segment. In  
this case, host and   network are the same and routing is performed
with   no problem. ER   CCNA - Original Message
-   From: Susan Stone   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001
7:22 AM   Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] 
 Hi, I always wonder what is loopback interface for? Can  
anyone explained its   function? Can we don't configure the loopback 
 interface. Our WAN Lookback   always start with 192.168.X.X why? Must
we use   private IP? I found I can   telnet to a remote router using
its loopback IP.   But I wonder How I route   as it always have the
subnet mask of   255.255.255.255. Then which is the   network and
which the host Susan  
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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Inno. Ama

The last mail I read before my response was about a
sarcastic remark from somebody on this list, somebody
actually took this up with his boss because he had a
signature just like Kevin. My question is, is this
what this board has come to? Ok, lets ignorantly agree
that you are right, is this the best way to put it
across to me? I believe you are a great engineer for
Quest and that you are a juniper expert, could this be
the difference between cisco and juniper boxes?
I have learnt alot from this group, I will not allow
you to change my perception of the well cultured
members of this group.

 
--- kevin jones  wrote:



Can you explain to me how you can telnet into the
router if all interfaces fail with the exception of
the loopback interface?nbsp; If ALL interfaces fail,
the only way you can get to the router is via console
or AUX.nbsp; And you call yourself a CCNP.nbsp; No
wonder the value of Cisco certification value (with
the exception of the CCIE) is becoming less desirable
these days.
Kevin
Juniper Network Certified Internet Expert
(JNCIE)
Qwest Communiations
nbsp;

gt;From: Inno. Ama 
gt;Reply-To: Inno. Ama

gt;To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
gt;Subject: Re: what is loopback interface
for ? [7:9493] 
gt;Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:57:53 -0400 
gt; 
gt;Sue, 
gt; 
gt;In addition to what ER had to say, the
main purpose of 
gt;loopback address is actually contained
in your 
gt;question.loopback interface is
always up/up, and 
gt;this helps you to possibly get into the
router when 
gt;there is problem and all interfaces
fail, now you can 
gt;see what is going on and troubleshoot
after you have 
gt;telneted into the router 
gt; 
gt;inno/ccnp 
gt;--- Ednilson Rosa wrote: 
gt; gt; Sorry, 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; Just a correction: the mask
usually used for a 
gt; gt; loopback intf is /32 
gt; gt; (255.255.255.255) and not /24
(255.255.255.0). 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; Rgards, 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; ER 
gt; gt; CCNA 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; - Original Message - 
gt; gt; From: Ednilson Rosa 
gt; gt; To: 
gt; gt; Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20
PM 
gt; gt; Subject: Re: what is loopback
interface for ? 
gt; gt; [7:9493] 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; A loopback interface may be used
for many purposes. 
gt; gt; You may use it as the 
gt; gt; end of a tunnel on a VPN
configuration or you may 
gt; gt; configure it just to have 
gt; gt; a stable router-id for OSPF, for
instance. 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; You don't need to configure it.
They are optional 
gt; gt; and you may use any 
gt; gt; address you want. If loopback
intfs are following a 
gt; gt; specific address scheme 
gt; gt; in your network, then they must
be planned for some 
gt; gt; specific function by who 
gt; gt; designed the network. You should
not change it 
gt; gt; before knowing what function 
gt; gt; is this (what may be achieved by
analyzing your 
gt; gt; configuration carefully). 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; The subnet mask used on a
loopback intf isn't also 
gt; gt; necessarily /24. This is 
gt; gt; frequently used though, to
economize address space, 
gt; gt; since you don't need to 
gt; gt; differentiate network and host on
this segment. In 
gt; gt; this case, host and 
gt; gt; network are the same and routing
is performed with 
gt; gt; no problem. 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; ER 
gt; gt; CCNA 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; - Original Message - 
gt; gt; From: Susan Stone 
gt; gt; To: 
gt; gt; Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 7:22
AM 
gt; gt; Subject: what is loopback
interface for ? [7:9493] 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; Hi, 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; I always wonder what is loopback
interface for? Can 
gt; gt; anyone explained its 
gt; gt; function? Can we don't configure
the loopback 
gt; gt; interface. Our WAN Lookback 
gt; gt; always start with 192.168.X.X
why? Must we use 
gt; gt; private IP? I found I can 
gt; gt; telnet to a remote router using
its loopback IP. 
gt; gt; But I wonder How I route 
gt; gt; as it always have the subnet mask
of 
gt; gt; 255.255.255.255. Then which is
the 
gt; gt; network and which the host 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; Susan 
gt; gt; 
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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Ednilson Rosa

Nope.

255.255.255.0 (/24) is the standard class C mask. It allows 254 host
addresses instead of just one. By using this mask you will be wasting your
address space. If IP address availability is not an issue to you then go
ahead. Otherwise it's better to use a /32 (255.255.255.255) mask which only
permits one single address.

ER
CCNA

- Original Message -
From: FELIX KISSIEDU 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 4:21 PM
Subject: RE: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


Looback interface is a logical interface on your router such that when your
router interface(s) goes down your loopback interface still stays up up. the
subnet mask normally assigned is 255.255.255.0 not 255.255.255.255 and this
is done so that only one Ip address can be assigned to the loobak interface.
It's normally used is ospf networks to configure your router(s) as
designated or backup designated router(s).




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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Michael L. Williams

I don't understand your statement the subnet mask normally assigned is
255.255.255.0 not 255.255.255.255 and this is done so that only one Ip
address can be assigned to the loobak interface.Using the subnet mask
255.255.255.0 will waste IP addresses.  You would use the 255.255.255.255
subnet mask to make it so it only uses 1 IP address.

Although the loopback can be used to sway the DR/BDR election, it's also
used as endpoints in DLSw, STUN and BSTUN tunnels as well as for
administrative purposes as a way to reach a router no matter which
particular interface is up or down.  Also  they are commonly used as a
source of an IP address for IP unnumbered interfaces, since they never go
down.

Mike W.

FELIX KISSIEDU  wrote in message
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 Looback interface is a logical interface on your router such that when
your
 router interface(s) goes down your loopback interface still stays up up.
the
 subnet mask normally assigned is 255.255.255.0 not 255.255.255.255 and
this
 is done so that only one Ip address can be assigned to the loobak
interface.
 It's normally used is ospf networks to configure your router(s) as
 designated or backup designated router(s).




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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Michael L. Williams

I had this huge post typed out ready to flame you for your response, but I
don't want to lower myself to that level.  I would hope that you are not an
indication of the quality of people that Qwest hires.  What an ass!

Mike W.

kevin jones  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Can you explain to me how you can telnet into the router if all
 interfaces fail with the exception of the loopback interface?  If ALL
 interfaces fail, the only way you can get to the router is via console or
 AUX.  And you call yourself a CCNP.  No wonder the value of Cisco
 certification value (with the exception of the CCIE) is becoming less
 desirable these days.

 Kevin

 Juniper Network Certified Internet Expert (JNCIE)

 Qwest Communiations



 From: Inno. Ama Reply-To: Inno. Ama To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] Date: Fri, 22
 Jun 2001 14:57:53 -0400  Sue,  In addition to what ER had to say, the
 main purpose of loopback address is actually contained in your
 question.loopback interface is always up/up, and this helps you to
 possibly get into the router when there is problem and all interfaces
 fail, now you can see what is going on and troubleshoot after you have
 telneted into the router  inno/ccnp --- Ednilson Rosa wrote:  
 Sorry, Just a correction: the mask usually used for a  
 loopback intf is /32   (255.255.255.255) and not /24 (255.255.255.0). 
Rgards, ER   CCNA - Original Message - 
  From: Ednilson Rosa   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20 PM 
  Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ?   [7:9493]  
 A loopback interface may be used for many purposes.   You may use it as
 the   end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may   configure
 it just to have   a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.
 You don't need to configure it. They are optional   and you may use any
   address you want. If loopback intfs are following a   specific
 address scheme   in your network, then they must be planned for some 
  specific function by who   designed the network. You should not
 change it   before knowing what function   is this (what may be
 achieved by analyzing your   configuration carefully). The
 subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also   necessarily /24. This
 is   frequently used though, to economize address space,   since you
 don't need to   differentiate network and host on this segment. In  
 this case, host and   network are the same and routing is performed
 with   no problem. ER   CCNA - Original Message
 -   From: Susan Stone   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001
 7:22 AM   Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] 
  Hi, I always wonder what is loopback interface for? Can  
 anyone explained its   function? Can we don't configure the loopback 
  interface. Our WAN Lookback   always start with 192.168.X.X why? Must
 we use   private IP? I found I can   telnet to a remote router using
 its loopback IP.   But I wonder How I route   as it always have the
 subnet mask of   255.255.255.255. Then which is the   network and
 which the host Susan  
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RE: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread CiscoG

I wouldn't worry too muchHe's got enough trouble trying to find
employment with that Juniper Certification! Haha!



-Original Message-
From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 6:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

I had this huge post typed out ready to flame you for your response, but I
don't want to lower myself to that level.  I would hope that you are not an
indication of the quality of people that Qwest hires.  What an ass!

Mike W.

kevin jones  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Can you explain to me how you can telnet into the router if all
 interfaces fail with the exception of the loopback interface?  If ALL
 interfaces fail, the only way you can get to the router is via console or
 AUX.  And you call yourself a CCNP.  No wonder the value of Cisco
 certification value (with the exception of the CCIE) is becoming less
 desirable these days.

 Kevin

 Juniper Network Certified Internet Expert (JNCIE)

 Qwest Communiations



 From: Inno. Ama Reply-To: Inno. Ama To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] Date: Fri, 22
 Jun 2001 14:57:53 -0400  Sue,  In addition to what ER had to say, the
 main purpose of loopback address is actually contained in your
 question.loopback interface is always up/up, and this helps you to
 possibly get into the router when there is problem and all interfaces
 fail, now you can see what is going on and troubleshoot after you have
 telneted into the router  inno/ccnp --- Ednilson Rosa wrote:  
 Sorry, Just a correction: the mask usually used for a  
 loopback intf is /32   (255.255.255.255) and not /24 (255.255.255.0). 
Rgards, ER   CCNA - Original Message - 
  From: Ednilson Rosa   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20 PM 
  Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ?   [7:9493]  
 A loopback interface may be used for many purposes.   You may use it as
 the   end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may   configure
 it just to have   a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.
 You don't need to configure it. They are optional   and you may use any
   address you want. If loopback intfs are following a   specific
 address scheme   in your network, then they must be planned for some 
  specific function by who   designed the network. You should not
 change it   before knowing what function   is this (what may be
 achieved by analyzing your   configuration carefully). The
 subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also   necessarily /24. This
 is   frequently used though, to economize address space,   since you
 don't need to   differentiate network and host on this segment. In  
 this case, host and   network are the same and routing is performed
 with   no problem. ER   CCNA - Original Message
 -   From: Susan Stone   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001
 7:22 AM   Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] 
  Hi, I always wonder what is loopback interface for? Can  
 anyone explained its   function? Can we don't configure the loopback 
  interface. Our WAN Lookback   always start with 192.168.X.X why? Must
 we use   private IP? I found I can   telnet to a remote router using
 its loopback IP.   But I wonder How I route   as it always have the
 subnet mask of   255.255.255.255. Then which is the   network and
 which the host Susan  
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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Brian

Kevin, I believe what was being sted was that in a router with
multiple ints, if some go down and some go up, routing info can still be
exchanged.  It is often the neighbor specified in a bgp config.

Brian Sonic Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity


On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, kevin jones wrote:

 Can you explain to me how you can telnet into the router if all
 interfaces fail with the exception of the loopback interface?  If ALL
 interfaces fail, the only way you can get to the router is via console or
 AUX.  And you call yourself a CCNP.  No wonder the value of Cisco
 certification value (with the exception of the CCIE) is becoming less
 desirable these days.

 Kevin

 Juniper Network Certified Internet Expert (JNCIE)

 Qwest Communiations



 From: Inno. Ama Reply-To: Inno. Ama To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] Date: Fri, 22
 Jun 2001 14:57:53 -0400  Sue,  In addition to what ER had to say, the
 main purpose of loopback address is actually contained in your
 question.loopback interface is always up/up, and this helps you to
 possibly get into the router when there is problem and all interfaces
 fail, now you can see what is going on and troubleshoot after you have
 telneted into the router  inno/ccnp --- Ednilson Rosa wrote:  
 Sorry, Just a correction: the mask usually used for a  
 loopback intf is /32   (255.255.255.255) and not /24 (255.255.255.0). 
Rgards, ER   CCNA - Original Message - 
  From: Ednilson Rosa   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20 PM 
  Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ?   [7:9493]  
 A loopback interface may be used for many purposes.   You may use it as
 the   end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may   configure
 it just to have   a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.
 You don't need to configure it. They are optional   and you may use any
   address you want. If loopback intfs are following a   specific
 address scheme   in your network, then they must be planned for some 
  specific function by who   designed the network. You should not
 change it   before knowing what function   is this (what may be
 achieved by analyzing your   configuration carefully). The
 subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also   necessarily /24. This
 is   frequently used though, to economize address space,   since you
 don't need to   differentiate network and host on this segment. In  
 this case, host and   network are the same and routing is performed
 with   no problem. ER   CCNA - Original Message
 -   From: Susan Stone   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001
 7:22 AM   Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] 
  Hi, I always wonder what is loopback interface for? Can  
 anyone explained its   function? Can we don't configure the loopback 
  interface. Our WAN Lookback   always start with 192.168.X.X why? Must
 we use   private IP? I found I can   telnet to a remote router using
 its loopback IP.   But I wonder How I route   as it always have the
 subnet mask of   255.255.255.255. Then which is the   network and
 which the host Susan  
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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Peter I. Slow

Did you guys read what happened to me when i freaked at someone like that?
Take a look at the thread how to track down unused ports on a switch 
and then stop ripping on people who flame you for saying something stupid.
or.
stop saying stupid things.
or
just keep your mouth shut if you cant say anything useful.


BTW, d0rk, i can establish an IP connection to the AUX interface via the AUX
interface/PPP. isnt that an interface?
if all the interfaces fail that wouldnt work either.

stop being dicks.

Love,
Peter Slow. 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


 I had this huge post typed out ready to flame you for your response, but I
 don't want to lower myself to that level.  I would hope that you are not
an
 indication of the quality of people that Qwest hires.  What an ass!

 Mike W.

 kevin jones  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Can you explain to me how you can telnet into the router if all
  interfaces fail with the exception of the loopback interface?  If ALL
  interfaces fail, the only way you can get to the router is via console
or
  AUX.  And you call yourself a CCNP.  No wonder the value of Cisco
  certification value (with the exception of the CCIE) is becoming less
  desirable these days.
 
  Kevin
 
  Juniper Network Certified Internet Expert (JNCIE)
 
  Qwest Communiations
 
 
 
  From: Inno. Ama Reply-To: Inno. Ama To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] Date: Fri, 22
  Jun 2001 14:57:53 -0400  Sue,  In addition to what ER had to say,
the
  main purpose of loopback address is actually contained in your
  question.loopback interface is always up/up, and this helps you to
  possibly get into the router when there is problem and all interfaces
  fail, now you can see what is going on and troubleshoot after you have
  telneted into the router  inno/ccnp --- Ednilson Rosa wrote:  
  Sorry, Just a correction: the mask usually used for a  
  loopback intf is /32   (255.255.255.255) and not /24 (255.255.255.0).

 Rgards, ER   CCNA - Original Message - 
   From: Ednilson Rosa   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20 PM

   Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ?   [7:9493]  
  A loopback interface may be used for many purposes.   You may use it
as
  the   end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may   configure
  it just to have   a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.
  You don't need to configure it. They are optional   and you may use
any
address you want. If loopback intfs are following a   specific
  address scheme   in your network, then they must be planned for some 
   specific function by who   designed the network. You should not
  change it   before knowing what function   is this (what may be
  achieved by analyzing your   configuration carefully). The
  subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also   necessarily /24. This
  is   frequently used though, to economize address space,   since you
  don't need to   differentiate network and host on this segment. In  
  this case, host and   network are the same and routing is performed
  with   no problem. ER   CCNA - Original Message
  -   From: Susan Stone   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001
  7:22 AM   Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] 
   Hi, I always wonder what is loopback interface for? Can  
  anyone explained its   function? Can we don't configure the loopback 
   interface. Our WAN Lookback   always start with 192.168.X.X why?
Must
  we use   private IP? I found I can   telnet to a remote router using
  its loopback IP.   But I wonder How I route   as it always have the
  subnet mask of   255.255.255.255. Then which is the   network and
  which the host Susan  
 
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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Bradley J. Wilson

People who send flames or retorts to flames are just like people who blow
themselves up in terrorist attacks: they think they're getting revenge, when
really they're the cause of the problem.

If it ain't Cisco-related, keep it private.  'Nuff said.


- Original Message -
From: Peter I. Slow
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


Did you guys read what happened to me when i freaked at someone like that?
Take a look at the thread how to track down unused ports on a switch 
and then stop ripping on people who flame you for saying something stupid.
or.
stop saying stupid things.
or
just keep your mouth shut if you cant say anything useful.


BTW, d0rk, i can establish an IP connection to the AUX interface via the AUX
interface/PPP. isnt that an interface?
if all the interfaces fail that wouldnt work either.

stop being dicks.

Love,
Peter Slow.
To:
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


 I had this huge post typed out ready to flame you for your response, but I
 don't want to lower myself to that level.  I would hope that you are not
an
 indication of the quality of people that Qwest hires.  What an ass!

 Mike W.

 kevin jones  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Can you explain to me how you can telnet into the router if all
  interfaces fail with the exception of the loopback interface?  If ALL
  interfaces fail, the only way you can get to the router is via console
or
  AUX.  And you call yourself a CCNP.  No wonder the value of Cisco
  certification value (with the exception of the CCIE) is becoming less
  desirable these days.
 
  Kevin
 
  Juniper Network Certified Internet Expert (JNCIE)
 
  Qwest Communiations
 
 
 
  From: Inno. Ama Reply-To: Inno. Ama To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] Date: Fri, 22
  Jun 2001 14:57:53 -0400  Sue,  In addition to what ER had to say,
the
  main purpose of loopback address is actually contained in your
  question.loopback interface is always up/up, and this helps you to
  possibly get into the router when there is problem and all interfaces
  fail, now you can see what is going on and troubleshoot after you have
  telneted into the router  inno/ccnp --- Ednilson Rosa wrote:  
  Sorry, Just a correction: the mask usually used for a  
  loopback intf is /32   (255.255.255.255) and not /24 (255.255.255.0).

 Rgards, ER   CCNA - Original Message - 
   From: Ednilson Rosa   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20 PM

   Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ?   [7:9493]  
  A loopback interface may be used for many purposes.   You may use it
as
  the   end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may   configure
  it just to have   a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.
  You don't need to configure it. They are optional   and you may use
any
address you want. If loopback intfs are following a   specific
  address scheme   in your network, then they must be planned for some 
   specific function by who   designed the network. You should not
  change it   before knowing what function   is this (what may be
  achieved by analyzing your   configuration carefully). The
  subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also   necessarily /24. This
  is   frequently used though, to economize address space,   since you
  don't need to   differentiate network and host on this segment. In  
  this case, host and   network are the same and routing is performed
  with   no problem. ER   CCNA - Original Message
  -   From: Susan Stone   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001
  7:22 AM   Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] 
   Hi, I always wonder what is loopback interface for? Can  
  anyone explained its   function? Can we don't configure the loopback 
   interface. Our WAN Lookback   always start with 192.168.X.X why?
Must
  we use   private IP? I found I can   telnet to a remote router using
  its loopback IP.   But I wonder How I route   as it always have the
  subnet mask of   255.255.255.255. Then which is the   network and
  which the host Susan  
 
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Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread Kevin Wigle

I'm not really wanting to get into the sarcasm part of this thread but I am
wondering about the JNCIE.

I recently got email from a Juniper guy in Canada (who works for Juniper
Canada) and he signed it JNCIE #0005 (or maybe 0015), in any event a very
very low number.

I showed the email to a few buddies thinking that it would be cool to have
such a low number.

I just thought that anybody with that cert, who would use it in his email
signature - would quote his number just like the CCIE.

just an off topic type of thought

Kevin Wigle

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From: CiscoG 
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Sent: Friday, 22 June, 2001 19:16
Subject: RE: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


 I wouldn't worry too muchHe's got enough trouble trying to find
 employment with that Juniper Certification! Haha!



 -Original Message-
 From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 6:43 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

 I had this huge post typed out ready to flame you for your response, but I
 don't want to lower myself to that level.  I would hope that you are not
an
 indication of the quality of people that Qwest hires.  What an ass!

 Mike W.

 kevin jones  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Can you explain to me how you can telnet into the router if all
  interfaces fail with the exception of the loopback interface?  If ALL
  interfaces fail, the only way you can get to the router is via console
or
  AUX.  And you call yourself a CCNP.  No wonder the value of Cisco
  certification value (with the exception of the CCIE) is becoming less
  desirable these days.
 
  Kevin
 
  Juniper Network Certified Internet Expert (JNCIE)
 
  Qwest Communiations




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RE: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]

2001-06-22 Thread David Eitel

dickhead

-Original Message-
From: kevin jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 3:47 PM
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Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493]


Can you explain to me how you can telnet into the router if all
interfaces fail with the exception of the loopback interface?  If ALL
interfaces fail, the only way you can get to the router is via console or
AUX.  And you call yourself a CCNP.  No wonder the value of Cisco
certification value (with the exception of the CCIE) is becoming less
desirable these days.

Kevin

Juniper Network Certified Internet Expert (JNCIE)

Qwest Communiations

 

From: Inno. Ama Reply-To: Inno. Ama To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] Date: Fri, 22
Jun 2001 14:57:53 -0400  Sue,  In addition to what ER had to say, the
main purpose of loopback address is actually contained in your
question.loopback interface is always up/up, and this helps you to
possibly get into the router when there is problem and all interfaces
fail, now you can see what is going on and troubleshoot after you have
telneted into the router  inno/ccnp --- Ednilson Rosa wrote:  
Sorry, Just a correction: the mask usually used for a  
loopback intf is /32   (255.255.255.255) and not /24 (255.255.255.0). 
   Rgards, ER   CCNA - Original Message - 
 From: Ednilson Rosa   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:20 PM 
 Subject: Re: what is loopback interface for ?   [7:9493]  
A loopback interface may be used for many purposes.   You may use it as
the   end of a tunnel on a VPN configuration or you may   configure
it just to have   a stable router-id for OSPF, for instance.
You don't need to configure it. They are optional   and you may use any
  address you want. If loopback intfs are following a   specific
address scheme   in your network, then they must be planned for some 
 specific function by who   designed the network. You should not
change it   before knowing what function   is this (what may be
achieved by analyzing your   configuration carefully). The
subnet mask used on a loopback intf isn't also   necessarily /24. This
is   frequently used though, to economize address space,   since you
don't need to   differentiate network and host on this segment. In  
this case, host and   network are the same and routing is performed
with   no problem. ER   CCNA - Original Message
-   From: Susan Stone   To:   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001
7:22 AM   Subject: what is loopback interface for ? [7:9493] 
 Hi, I always wonder what is loopback interface for? Can  
anyone explained its   function? Can we don't configure the loopback 
 interface. Our WAN Lookback   always start with 192.168.X.X why? Must
we use   private IP? I found I can   telnet to a remote router using
its loopback IP.   But I wonder How I route   as it always have the
subnet mask of   255.255.255.255. Then which is the   network and
which the host Susan  
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