Re: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: The way I look at Novell is that there are three APIs: four, if my memories of my stint developing Netware-based utilities are accurate.. Application layer: NCP Session layer: NetBIOS Transport layer:SPX Transport layer:IPX Resource location is defined for NCP with SAP/GNS, with the NetBIOS name service for NetBIOS, and is undefined for SPX. SAP and GNS work for locating SPX-based servers too. I don't think there's anything specific that lets you know whether you should use SPX or NCP with a given server. Unless it's implicit in the server type. -- Someone approached me and asked me to teach a javascript course. I was about to decline, saying that my complete ignorance of the subject made me unsuitable, then I thought again, that maybe it doesn't, as driving people away from it is a desirable outcome. --Me Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9937t=9045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
I thought IPX was layer 2 in the IPX/SPX stack. -Original Message- From: Charles Manafa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] IPX is layer 3 Switches operate at layer 2 CM -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20/06/01 08:14 Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Thanks! I found the setting in the printer to disable the IPX. However Can we filter the IPX traffic on our 2900 IOS switches, and set based 5500 switches. IF yes.. what is the command to disable transmission of IPX traffic in the switches. -Original Message- From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:40 PM To: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] It may be an HP JetDirect card. Get rid of it by assigning your JetDirect and or Printer an IP Address (whichever you need to do) Turn IPX off on the JetDirect Print Server. OR Filter IPX at your router and see if you can still print. Then RE_check for your IPX.. Is it still there? Did printer stop working? If so then you may want to keep IPX till you can switch to IP. -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Hi. I use the fluke meter and ethereal software to check the health of our network and I found there are a lot of IPX traffic in our network. But we have no Novell server here and where is the IPX traffic coming from? In the ethereal output I saw a lot of statement like source destination Protocol Info 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP Nearest Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Response 0.0008c7280106 0.NBIPXFind name our domain name 0.0008c7280106 0.BROWSER Host Announcement workstation name workstation, server, print queue server, NT workstation, NT server, Potential browser. In fluke meter, I saw these IPX are mostly by printer and printer server? Why printer got something to do with IPX . How to get rid of this? Please advice Thanks -Original Message- From: jason douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what about ccie-pre-qualification test in boson cisco [7: 9041] I thought it was similar. frank wrote: compared with 350-001,easier or much the same? Thanks, frank -- Jason Douglas Lucent World Wide Services Pager 888-451-0755 == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9812t=9045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
ipx is layer 3, spx is 4.. Bri - Original Message - From: Jack Nalbandian To: Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 9:57 AM Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] I thought IPX was layer 2 in the IPX/SPX stack. -Original Message- From: Charles Manafa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] IPX is layer 3 Switches operate at layer 2 CM -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20/06/01 08:14 Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Thanks! I found the setting in the printer to disable the IPX. However Can we filter the IPX traffic on our 2900 IOS switches, and set based 5500 switches. IF yes.. what is the command to disable transmission of IPX traffic in the switches. -Original Message- From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:40 PM To: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] It may be an HP JetDirect card. Get rid of it by assigning your JetDirect and or Printer an IP Address (whichever you need to do) Turn IPX off on the JetDirect Print Server. OR Filter IPX at your router and see if you can still print. Then RE_check for your IPX.. Is it still there? Did printer stop working? If so then you may want to keep IPX till you can switch to IP. -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Hi. I use the fluke meter and ethereal software to check the health of our network and I found there are a lot of IPX traffic in our network. But we have no Novell server here and where is the IPX traffic coming from? In the ethereal output I saw a lot of statement like source destination Protocol Info 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP Nearest Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Response 0.0008c7280106 0.NBIPXFind name our domain name 0.0008c7280106 0.BROWSER Host Announcement workstation name workstation, server, print queue server, NT workstation, NT server, Potential browser. In fluke meter, I saw these IPX are mostly by printer and printer server? Why printer got something to do with IPX . How to get rid of this? Please advice Thanks -Original Message- From: jason douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what about ccie-pre-qualification test in boson cisco [7: 9041] I thought it was similar. frank wrote: compared with 350-001,easier or much the same? Thanks, frank -- Jason Douglas Lucent World Wide Services Pager 888-451-0755 == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9814t=9045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
Correct! My mistake. -Original Message- From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 10:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] ipx is layer 3, spx is 4.. Bri - Original Message - From: Jack Nalbandian To: Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 9:57 AM Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] I thought IPX was layer 2 in the IPX/SPX stack. -Original Message- From: Charles Manafa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] IPX is layer 3 Switches operate at layer 2 CM -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20/06/01 08:14 Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Thanks! I found the setting in the printer to disable the IPX. However Can we filter the IPX traffic on our 2900 IOS switches, and set based 5500 switches. IF yes.. what is the command to disable transmission of IPX traffic in the switches. -Original Message- From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:40 PM To: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] It may be an HP JetDirect card. Get rid of it by assigning your JetDirect and or Printer an IP Address (whichever you need to do) Turn IPX off on the JetDirect Print Server. OR Filter IPX at your router and see if you can still print. Then RE_check for your IPX.. Is it still there? Did printer stop working? If so then you may want to keep IPX till you can switch to IP. -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Hi. I use the fluke meter and ethereal software to check the health of our network and I found there are a lot of IPX traffic in our network. But we have no Novell server here and where is the IPX traffic coming from? In the ethereal output I saw a lot of statement like source destination Protocol Info 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP Nearest Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Response 0.0008c7280106 0.NBIPXFind name our domain name 0.0008c7280106 0.BROWSER Host Announcement workstation name workstation, server, print queue server, NT workstation, NT server, Potential browser. In fluke meter, I saw these IPX are mostly by printer and printer server? Why printer got something to do with IPX . How to get rid of this? Please advice Thanks -Original Message- From: jason douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what about ccie-pre-qualification test in boson cisco [7: 9041] I thought it was similar. frank wrote: compared with 350-001,easier or much the same? Thanks, frank -- Jason Douglas Lucent World Wide Services Pager 888-451-0755 == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9819t=9045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http
RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
IPX runs at layer 3. There's no question of that. Perhaps the confusing thing is that IPX layer-3 addresses consist of network.MAC. The node part of the address is the same as the layer-2 NIC address, also known as MAC or hardware address. This means that IPX doesn't need an ARP. If you know the Layer-3 address, you know the Layer-2 address also. Above IPX, the most common Novell protocol is NetWare Core Protocol (NCP) used by file servers. Print servers use SPX. It's a myth that NCP uses SPX. It doesn't. Priscilla At 12:57 PM 6/25/01, Jack Nalbandian wrote: I thought IPX was layer 2 in the IPX/SPX stack. -Original Message- From: Charles Manafa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] IPX is layer 3 Switches operate at layer 2 CM -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20/06/01 08:14 Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Thanks! I found the setting in the printer to disable the IPX. However Can we filter the IPX traffic on our 2900 IOS switches, and set based 5500 switches. IF yes.. what is the command to disable transmission of IPX traffic in the switches. -Original Message- From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:40 PM To: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] It may be an HP JetDirect card. Get rid of it by assigning your JetDirect and or Printer an IP Address (whichever you need to do) Turn IPX off on the JetDirect Print Server. OR Filter IPX at your router and see if you can still print. Then RE_check for your IPX.. Is it still there? Did printer stop working? If so then you may want to keep IPX till you can switch to IP. -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Hi. I use the fluke meter and ethereal software to check the health of our network and I found there are a lot of IPX traffic in our network. But we have no Novell server here and where is the IPX traffic coming from? In the ethereal output I saw a lot of statement like source destination Protocol Info 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP Nearest Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Response 0.0008c7280106 0.NBIPXFind name our domain name 0.0008c7280106 0.BROWSER Host Announcement workstation name workstation, server, print queue server, NT workstation, NT server, Potential browser. In fluke meter, I saw these IPX are mostly by printer and printer server? Why printer got something to do with IPX . How to get rid of this? Please advice Thanks -Original Message- From: jason douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what about ccie-pre-qualification test in boson cisco [7: 9041] I thought it was similar. frank wrote: compared with 350-001,easier or much the same? Thanks, frank -- Jason Douglas Lucent World Wide Services Pager 888-451-0755 == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form
RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
At 12:11 PM 6/25/01, Jack Nalbandian wrote: Thank you veery much for clarifying that. Pardon my ignorance on Novell stuff, but does this mean, then, that the ODI wrap and IPX share the layer 2 functions? No. IPX does layer-3 functions. ODI is just an Ethernet driver. It allows a NIC to be used to carry data for different protocols. For example, ODI allows a computer with a single NIC to be simultaneously connected to both an IPX and an IP network. So, IPX interfaces to ODI. It's a layered architecture. Also, what is the NWLINK equivalent of ARP? NWLINK is NetBIOS running on top of IPX/SPX. It's just generic IPX. It has nothing to do with ARP which is an IP function to map IP addresses to MAC addresses. These basic questions belong on the CCNA study list, not this one. Also, find yourself a good protocol chart. Every so often someone sends around a link to one. Priscilla -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 11:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] IPX runs at layer 3. There's no question of that. Perhaps the confusing thing is that IPX layer-3 addresses consist of network.MAC. The node part of the address is the same as the layer-2 NIC address, also known as MAC or hardware address. This means that IPX doesn't need an ARP. If you know the Layer-3 address, you know the Layer-2 address also. Above IPX, the most common Novell protocol is NetWare Core Protocol (NCP) used by file servers. Print servers use SPX. It's a myth that NCP uses SPX. It doesn't. Priscilla At 12:57 PM 6/25/01, Jack Nalbandian wrote: I thought IPX was layer 2 in the IPX/SPX stack. -Original Message- From: Charles Manafa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] IPX is layer 3 Switches operate at layer 2 CM -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20/06/01 08:14 Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Thanks! I found the setting in the printer to disable the IPX. However Can we filter the IPX traffic on our 2900 IOS switches, and set based 5500 switches. IF yes.. what is the command to disable transmission of IPX traffic in the switches. -Original Message- From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:40 PM To: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] It may be an HP JetDirect card. Get rid of it by assigning your JetDirect and or Printer an IP Address (whichever you need to do) Turn IPX off on the JetDirect Print Server. OR Filter IPX at your router and see if you can still print. Then RE_check for your IPX.. Is it still there? Did printer stop working? If so then you may want to keep IPX till you can switch to IP. -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Hi. I use the fluke meter and ethereal software to check the health of our network and I found there are a lot of IPX traffic in our network. But we have no Novell server here and where is the IPX traffic coming from? In the ethereal output I saw a lot of statement like source destination Protocol Info 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP Nearest Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Response 0.0008c7280106 0.NBIPXFind name our domain name 0.0008c7280106 0.BROWSER Host Announcement workstation name workstation, server, print queue server, NT workstation, NT server, Potential browser. In fluke meter, I saw these IPX are mostly by printer and printer server? Why printer got something to do with IPX . How to get rid of this? Please advice Thanks -Original Message- From: jason douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what about ccie-pre-qualification test in boson cisco [7: 9041] I thought it was similar. frank wrote: compared with 350-001,easier or much the same? Thanks, frank -- Jason Douglas Lucent World Wide Services Pager 888-451-0755 == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren
RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
Thank you veery much for clarifying that. Pardon my ignorance on Novell stuff, but does this mean, then, that the ODI wrap and IPX share the layer 2 functions? Also, what is the NWLINK equivalent of ARP? -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 11:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] IPX runs at layer 3. There's no question of that. Perhaps the confusing thing is that IPX layer-3 addresses consist of network.MAC. The node part of the address is the same as the layer-2 NIC address, also known as MAC or hardware address. This means that IPX doesn't need an ARP. If you know the Layer-3 address, you know the Layer-2 address also. Above IPX, the most common Novell protocol is NetWare Core Protocol (NCP) used by file servers. Print servers use SPX. It's a myth that NCP uses SPX. It doesn't. Priscilla At 12:57 PM 6/25/01, Jack Nalbandian wrote: I thought IPX was layer 2 in the IPX/SPX stack. -Original Message- From: Charles Manafa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] IPX is layer 3 Switches operate at layer 2 CM -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20/06/01 08:14 Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Thanks! I found the setting in the printer to disable the IPX. However Can we filter the IPX traffic on our 2900 IOS switches, and set based 5500 switches. IF yes.. what is the command to disable transmission of IPX traffic in the switches. -Original Message- From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:40 PM To: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] It may be an HP JetDirect card. Get rid of it by assigning your JetDirect and or Printer an IP Address (whichever you need to do) Turn IPX off on the JetDirect Print Server. OR Filter IPX at your router and see if you can still print. Then RE_check for your IPX.. Is it still there? Did printer stop working? If so then you may want to keep IPX till you can switch to IP. -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Hi. I use the fluke meter and ethereal software to check the health of our network and I found there are a lot of IPX traffic in our network. But we have no Novell server here and where is the IPX traffic coming from? In the ethereal output I saw a lot of statement like source destination Protocol Info 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP Nearest Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Response 0.0008c7280106 0.NBIPXFind name our domain name 0.0008c7280106 0.BROWSER Host Announcement workstation name workstation, server, print queue server, NT workstation, NT server, Potential browser. In fluke meter, I saw these IPX are mostly by printer and printer server? Why printer got something to do with IPX . How to get rid of this? Please advice Thanks -Original Message- From: jason douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what about ccie-pre-qualification test in boson cisco [7: 9041] I thought it was similar. frank wrote: compared with 350-001,easier or much the same? Thanks, frank -- Jason Douglas Lucent World Wide Services Pager 888-451-0755 == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained
RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
My friend, Thank you for your assistance. I was not aware that there was a basics CCNA list. I will, however, not refrain from being basic on this list, if you permit it, of course. Thank you, -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 1:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] At 12:11 PM 6/25/01, Jack Nalbandian wrote: Thank you veery much for clarifying that. Pardon my ignorance on Novell stuff, but does this mean, then, that the ODI wrap and IPX share the layer 2 functions? No. IPX does layer-3 functions. ODI is just an Ethernet driver. It allows a NIC to be used to carry data for different protocols. For example, ODI allows a computer with a single NIC to be simultaneously connected to both an IPX and an IP network. So, IPX interfaces to ODI. It's a layered architecture. Also, what is the NWLINK equivalent of ARP? NWLINK is NetBIOS running on top of IPX/SPX. It's just generic IPX. It has nothing to do with ARP which is an IP function to map IP addresses to MAC addresses. These basic questions belong on the CCNA study list, not this one. Also, find yourself a good protocol chart. Every so often someone sends around a link to one. Priscilla -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 11:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] IPX runs at layer 3. There's no question of that. Perhaps the confusing thing is that IPX layer-3 addresses consist of network.MAC. The node part of the address is the same as the layer-2 NIC address, also known as MAC or hardware address. This means that IPX doesn't need an ARP. If you know the Layer-3 address, you know the Layer-2 address also. Above IPX, the most common Novell protocol is NetWare Core Protocol (NCP) used by file servers. Print servers use SPX. It's a myth that NCP uses SPX. It doesn't. Priscilla At 12:57 PM 6/25/01, Jack Nalbandian wrote: I thought IPX was layer 2 in the IPX/SPX stack. -Original Message- From: Charles Manafa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] IPX is layer 3 Switches operate at layer 2 CM -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20/06/01 08:14 Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Thanks! I found the setting in the printer to disable the IPX. However Can we filter the IPX traffic on our 2900 IOS switches, and set based 5500 switches. IF yes.. what is the command to disable transmission of IPX traffic in the switches. -Original Message- From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:40 PM To: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] It may be an HP JetDirect card. Get rid of it by assigning your JetDirect and or Printer an IP Address (whichever you need to do) Turn IPX off on the JetDirect Print Server. OR Filter IPX at your router and see if you can still print. Then RE_check for your IPX.. Is it still there? Did printer stop working? If so then you may want to keep IPX till you can switch to IP. -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Hi. I use the fluke meter and ethereal software to check the health of our network and I found there are a lot of IPX traffic in our network. But we have no Novell server here and where is the IPX traffic coming from? In the ethereal output I saw a lot of statement like source destination Protocol Info 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP Nearest Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Response 0.0008c7280106 0.NBIPXFind name our domain name 0.0008c7280106 0.BROWSER Host Announcement workstation name workstation, server, print queue server, NT workstation, NT server, Potential browser. In fluke meter, I saw these IPX are mostly by printer and printer server? Why printer got something to do with IPX . How to get rid of this? Please advice Thanks -Original Message- From: jason douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what about ccie-pre-qualification test in boson cisco [7: 9041] I thought it was similar. frank wrote: compared with 350-001,easier or much the same? Thanks, frank
Re: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
It seems interested to note that no one has mentioned that IPX not only performs addressing and path determination (layer 3) but can also act as it's own conectionless transport too (layer 4) like UDP.. IPX does HAVE to use SPX for transport. so IPX is really a Layer3 4 protocol Mike W. Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... At 12:11 PM 6/25/01, Jack Nalbandian wrote: Thank you veery much for clarifying that. Pardon my ignorance on Novell stuff, but does this mean, then, that the ODI wrap and IPX share the layer 2 functions? No. IPX does layer-3 functions. ODI is just an Ethernet driver. It allows a NIC to be used to carry data for different protocols. For example, ODI allows a computer with a single NIC to be simultaneously connected to both an IPX and an IP network. So, IPX interfaces to ODI. It's a layered architecture. Also, what is the NWLINK equivalent of ARP? NWLINK is NetBIOS running on top of IPX/SPX. It's just generic IPX. It has nothing to do with ARP which is an IP function to map IP addresses to MAC addresses. These basic questions belong on the CCNA study list, not this one. Also, find yourself a good protocol chart. Every so often someone sends around a link to one. Priscilla -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 11:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] IPX runs at layer 3. There's no question of that. Perhaps the confusing thing is that IPX layer-3 addresses consist of network.MAC. The node part of the address is the same as the layer-2 NIC address, also known as MAC or hardware address. This means that IPX doesn't need an ARP. If you know the Layer-3 address, you know the Layer-2 address also. Above IPX, the most common Novell protocol is NetWare Core Protocol (NCP) used by file servers. Print servers use SPX. It's a myth that NCP uses SPX. It doesn't. Priscilla At 12:57 PM 6/25/01, Jack Nalbandian wrote: I thought IPX was layer 2 in the IPX/SPX stack. -Original Message- From: Charles Manafa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] IPX is layer 3 Switches operate at layer 2 CM -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20/06/01 08:14 Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Thanks! I found the setting in the printer to disable the IPX. However Can we filter the IPX traffic on our 2900 IOS switches, and set based 5500 switches. IF yes.. what is the command to disable transmission of IPX traffic in the switches. -Original Message- From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:40 PM To: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] It may be an HP JetDirect card. Get rid of it by assigning your JetDirect and or Printer an IP Address (whichever you need to do) Turn IPX off on the JetDirect Print Server. OR Filter IPX at your router and see if you can still print. Then RE_check for your IPX.. Is it still there? Did printer stop working? If so then you may want to keep IPX till you can switch to IP. -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Hi. I use the fluke meter and ethereal software to check the health of our network and I found there are a lot of IPX traffic in our network. But we have no Novell server here and where is the IPX traffic coming from? In the ethereal output I saw a lot of statement like source destination Protocol Info 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP Nearest Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Response 0.0008c7280106 0.NBIPXFind name our domain name 0.0008c7280106 0.BROWSER Host Announcement workstation name workstation, server, print queue server, NT workstation, NT server, Potential browser. In fluke meter, I saw these IPX are mostly by printer and printer server? Why printer got something to do with IPX . How to get rid of this? Please advice Thanks -Original Message- From: jason douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what about ccie-pre-qualification test in boson cisco [7: 9041] I thought it was
Re: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
Excuse me.. I meant to say IPX does NOT have to use SPX for transport... Sorry for the non-type Mike W. Michael L. Williams wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It seems interested to note that no one has mentioned that IPX not only performs addressing and path determination (layer 3) but can also act as it's own conectionless transport too (layer 4) like UDP.. IPX does HAVE to use SPX for transport. so IPX is really a Layer3 4 protocol Mike W. Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... At 12:11 PM 6/25/01, Jack Nalbandian wrote: Thank you veery much for clarifying that. Pardon my ignorance on Novell stuff, but does this mean, then, that the ODI wrap and IPX share the layer 2 functions? No. IPX does layer-3 functions. ODI is just an Ethernet driver. It allows a NIC to be used to carry data for different protocols. For example, ODI allows a computer with a single NIC to be simultaneously connected to both an IPX and an IP network. So, IPX interfaces to ODI. It's a layered architecture. Also, what is the NWLINK equivalent of ARP? NWLINK is NetBIOS running on top of IPX/SPX. It's just generic IPX. It has nothing to do with ARP which is an IP function to map IP addresses to MAC addresses. These basic questions belong on the CCNA study list, not this one. Also, find yourself a good protocol chart. Every so often someone sends around a link to one. Priscilla -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 11:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] IPX runs at layer 3. There's no question of that. Perhaps the confusing thing is that IPX layer-3 addresses consist of network.MAC. The node part of the address is the same as the layer-2 NIC address, also known as MAC or hardware address. This means that IPX doesn't need an ARP. If you know the Layer-3 address, you know the Layer-2 address also. Above IPX, the most common Novell protocol is NetWare Core Protocol (NCP) used by file servers. Print servers use SPX. It's a myth that NCP uses SPX. It doesn't. Priscilla At 12:57 PM 6/25/01, Jack Nalbandian wrote: I thought IPX was layer 2 in the IPX/SPX stack. -Original Message- From: Charles Manafa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] IPX is layer 3 Switches operate at layer 2 CM -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20/06/01 08:14 Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Thanks! I found the setting in the printer to disable the IPX. However Can we filter the IPX traffic on our 2900 IOS switches, and set based 5500 switches. IF yes.. what is the command to disable transmission of IPX traffic in the switches. -Original Message- From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:40 PM To: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] It may be an HP JetDirect card. Get rid of it by assigning your JetDirect and or Printer an IP Address (whichever you need to do) Turn IPX off on the JetDirect Print Server. OR Filter IPX at your router and see if you can still print. Then RE_check for your IPX.. Is it still there? Did printer stop working? If so then you may want to keep IPX till you can switch to IP. -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Hi. I use the fluke meter and ethereal software to check the health of our network and I found there are a lot of IPX traffic in our network. But we have no Novell server here and where is the IPX traffic coming from? In the ethereal output I saw a lot of statement like source destination Protocol Info 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP Nearest Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Response 0.0008c7280106 0.NBIPXFind name our domain name 0.0008c7280106 0.BROWSER Host Announcement workstation name workstation, server, print queue server, NT workstation, NT server, Potential browser. In fluke meter, I saw these IPX are mostly by printer and printer server? Why printer got
Re: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
At 05:57 PM 6/25/01, Michael L. Williams wrote: It seems interested to note that no one has mentioned that IPX not only performs addressing and path determination (layer 3) but can also act as it's own conectionless transport too (layer 4) like UDP.. The IPX layer identifies a source and destination socket in addition to source and destination layer-3 addresses, but it is still a layer-3 protocol in my opinion. AppleTalk DDP also identifies sockets, but it's layer 3 also. IPX and DDP have the same job as IP. IP identifies the next layer up also. It has its protocol type field. IPX RIP does path determination. IPX does HAVE to use SPX for transport. Not sure if that was a typo, but IPX does NOT have to use SPX for transport. Most packets in an IPX network do not have an SPX header. so IPX is really a Layer3 4 protocol Perhaps what you are getting at is the extra glue between NetWare Core Protocol and IPX that does things like sequencing and acknowledging. Protocol analyzers, such as Sniffer and EtherPeek, decode this as part of NCP. Novell documentation does not put it with IPX. (I have the IPX functional specification but not any formal NCP documentation). Perhaps some books put it with IPX. Here's an EtherPeek packet to help you understand my point: 802.3 Header Destination: 00:80:5F:05:77:29 Source: 00:01:83:A0:28:CD Length: 40 IPX - NetWare Protocol Checksum: 0x Length: 39 Transport Control: Reserved: % Hop Count: % Packet Type: 17 NCP - Netware Core Protocol Destination Network: 0x00094301 Destination Node: 00:00:00:00:00:01 Destination Socket: 0x0451 NetWare Core Protocol Source Network: 0x0001 Source Node: 00:01:83:A0:28:CD Source Socket:0x4003 IPX Ephemeral NCP - Netware Core Protocol Request Type: 0x Request Sequence number: 203 Connection number low:123 Task number: 20 Connection number high: 0 Function Code:62 Alt Dir Search Parameters Alt Dir Search Parameters Request Directory handle: 45 File Name: Extra bytes (Padding): v.v 76 0C 14 00 18 00 76 Frame Check Sequence: 0x04004A00 Priscilla Mike W. Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... At 12:11 PM 6/25/01, Jack Nalbandian wrote: Thank you veery much for clarifying that. Pardon my ignorance on Novell stuff, but does this mean, then, that the ODI wrap and IPX share the layer 2 functions? No. IPX does layer-3 functions. ODI is just an Ethernet driver. It allows a NIC to be used to carry data for different protocols. For example, ODI allows a computer with a single NIC to be simultaneously connected to both an IPX and an IP network. So, IPX interfaces to ODI. It's a layered architecture. Also, what is the NWLINK equivalent of ARP? NWLINK is NetBIOS running on top of IPX/SPX. It's just generic IPX. It has nothing to do with ARP which is an IP function to map IP addresses to MAC addresses. These basic questions belong on the CCNA study list, not this one. Also, find yourself a good protocol chart. Every so often someone sends around a link to one. Priscilla -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 11:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] IPX runs at layer 3. There's no question of that. Perhaps the confusing thing is that IPX layer-3 addresses consist of network.MAC. The node part of the address is the same as the layer-2 NIC address, also known as MAC or hardware address. This means that IPX doesn't need an ARP. If you know the Layer-3 address, you know the Layer-2 address also. Above IPX, the most common Novell protocol is NetWare Core Protocol (NCP) used by file servers. Print servers use SPX. It's a myth that NCP uses SPX. It doesn't. Priscilla At 12:57 PM 6/25/01, Jack Nalbandian wrote: I thought IPX was layer 2 in the IPX/SPX stack. -Original Message- From: Charles Manafa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] IPX is layer 3 Switches operate at layer 2 CM -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20/06/01 08:14 Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Thanks! I found the setting in the printer to disable the IPX. However Can we filter the IPX traffic on our 2900 IOS switches, and set based 5500 switches. IF yes.. what is the command to disable transmission of IPX traffic in the
RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
Hey, hey, go to the basics list with those typos:))) -Original Message- From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 3:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Excuse me.. I meant to say IPX does NOT have to use SPX for transport... Sorry for the non-type Mike W. Michael L. Williams wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It seems interested to note that no one has mentioned that IPX not only performs addressing and path determination (layer 3) but can also act as it's own conectionless transport too (layer 4) like UDP.. IPX does HAVE to use SPX for transport. so IPX is really a Layer3 4 protocol Mike W. Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... At 12:11 PM 6/25/01, Jack Nalbandian wrote: Thank you veery much for clarifying that. Pardon my ignorance on Novell stuff, but does this mean, then, that the ODI wrap and IPX share the layer 2 functions? No. IPX does layer-3 functions. ODI is just an Ethernet driver. It allows a NIC to be used to carry data for different protocols. For example, ODI allows a computer with a single NIC to be simultaneously connected to both an IPX and an IP network. So, IPX interfaces to ODI. It's a layered architecture. Also, what is the NWLINK equivalent of ARP? NWLINK is NetBIOS running on top of IPX/SPX. It's just generic IPX. It has nothing to do with ARP which is an IP function to map IP addresses to MAC addresses. These basic questions belong on the CCNA study list, not this one. Also, find yourself a good protocol chart. Every so often someone sends around a link to one. Priscilla -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 11:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] IPX runs at layer 3. There's no question of that. Perhaps the confusing thing is that IPX layer-3 addresses consist of network.MAC. The node part of the address is the same as the layer-2 NIC address, also known as MAC or hardware address. This means that IPX doesn't need an ARP. If you know the Layer-3 address, you know the Layer-2 address also. Above IPX, the most common Novell protocol is NetWare Core Protocol (NCP) used by file servers. Print servers use SPX. It's a myth that NCP uses SPX. It doesn't. Priscilla At 12:57 PM 6/25/01, Jack Nalbandian wrote: I thought IPX was layer 2 in the IPX/SPX stack. -Original Message- From: Charles Manafa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] IPX is layer 3 Switches operate at layer 2 CM -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20/06/01 08:14 Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Thanks! I found the setting in the printer to disable the IPX. However Can we filter the IPX traffic on our 2900 IOS switches, and set based 5500 switches. IF yes.. what is the command to disable transmission of IPX traffic in the switches. -Original Message- From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:40 PM To: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] It may be an HP JetDirect card. Get rid of it by assigning your JetDirect and or Printer an IP Address (whichever you need to do) Turn IPX off on the JetDirect Print Server. OR Filter IPX at your router and see if you can still print. Then RE_check for your IPX.. Is it still there? Did printer stop working? If so then you may want to keep IPX till you can switch to IP. -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Hi. I use the fluke meter and ethereal software to check the health of our network and I found there are a lot of IPX traffic in our network. But we have no Novell server here and where is the IPX traffic coming from? In the ethereal output I saw a lot of statement like source destination Protocol Info 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP Nearest Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Response 0.0008c7280106 0.NBIPXFind name our domain name 0.0008
Re: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... At 05:57 PM 6/25/01, Michael L. Williams wrote: It seems interested to note that no one has mentioned that IPX not only performs addressing and path determination (layer 3) but can also act as it's own conectionless transport too (layer 4) like UDP.. The IPX layer identifies a source and destination socket in addition to source and destination layer-3 addresses, but it is still a layer-3 protocol in my opinion. AppleTalk DDP also identifies sockets, but it's layer 3 also. IPX and DDP have the same job as IP. IP identifies the next layer up also. It has its protocol type field. Doesn't IPX do more than just addressing, etc? Everything I've always read tells me that IPX can actually act as it's own connectionless transport protocol. Here are some things I've read that imply this. Tell me if this stuff is misleading or if I'm just reading it wrong: SPX extends IPX connectionless datagram service by providing a facility for reliable connection oriented deliverly. IPX (Internetwork Packet Exchange) is a peer-to-peer protocol. It was derived from the XNS Internet Datagram protocol. IPX is a connectionless protocol. It's only concern is internetwork addressing and intranode addressing (sockets). IPX completely relies on the network hardware for the actual node addressing. (i.e. it uses the MAC address to complete an address) IPX is a datagram-based, connectionless protocol. Datagram-based, connectionless protocols do not require an acknowledgment for each packet sent. Packet acknowledgment, or connection control, must be provided by protocols above IPX IPX accomplishes these and other Network-layer tasks with the help of RIP, SAP, and NLSP Wouldn't all of these statements imply that IPX can be it's own transport, and therefore be considered Layer 4 as well? IPX RIP does path determination. Doesn't IPX RIP simply act as a routing protocol like IP RIP? Aside from allowing routing to share routes, IPX RIP doesn't actually perform the path determination does it? (i.e. the router still looks in the routing table at routes for path determination whether they're static, redistributed, or learned via IPX RIP) By default, the Cisco IOS software redistributes IPX RIP routes into Enhanced IGRP, and vice versa. Please clarify, because I don't know tons about IPX/SPX and how they divy up the functions of path determination, etc. that well.. IPX does HAVE to use SPX for transport. Not sure if that was a typo, but IPX does NOT have to use SPX for transport. Most packets in an IPX network do not have an SPX header. You're right, it was a typo =) However, from my (again, limited) understanding, most everyday communications over IPX/SPX would need reliable transport (communications for login to servers, getting files and running applications from servers, etc..) and would need the SPX for reliability, correct? Thanks! Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9874t=9045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
At 05:57 PM 6/25/01, Michael L. Williams wrote: It seems interested to note that no one has mentioned that IPX not only performs addressing and path determination (layer 3) but can also act as it's own conectionless transport too (layer 4) like UDP.. I suspect that Novell applications that are appropriate for connectionless transport tend to use the NetBIOS datagram service rather than raw IPX. The IPX layer identifies a source and destination socket in addition to source and destination layer-3 addresses, but it is still a layer-3 protocol in my opinion. AppleTalk DDP also identifies sockets, but it's layer 3 also. IPX and DDP have the same job as IP. IP identifies the next layer up also. It has its protocol type field. And the equivalent of socket ID, of course, is in TCP or UDP, which are identified by the IP protocol type field. Other values of IP protocol type include ICMP, OSPF, EIGRP, etc. IPX RIP does path determination. As does NLSP. IPX does HAVE to use SPX for transport. Not sure if that was a typo, but IPX does NOT have to use SPX for transport. Most packets in an IPX network do not have an SPX header. so IPX is really a Layer3 4 protocol Perhaps what you are getting at is the extra glue between NetWare Core Protocol and IPX that does things like sequencing and acknowledging. Protocol analyzers, such as Sniffer and EtherPeek, decode this as part of NCP. Novell documentation does not put it with IPX. (I have the IPX functional specification but not any formal NCP documentation). Perhaps some books put it with IPX. It's my understanding that NCP runs on top of a NCP-specific reliable transport called Packet Exchange Protocol (PEP), which runs over IPX. PEP is part of the largely confidential NCP specification. The way I look at Novell is that there are three APIs: Application layer: NCP Session layer: NetBIOS Transport layer:SPX Resource location is defined for NCP with SAP/GNS, with the NetBIOS name service for NetBIOS, and is undefined for SPX. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9878t=9045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
Hey, hey, go to the basics list with those typos:))) After I gave a Cisco University VPN seminar and discovered I had described pubic key cryptography on the whiteboard, I am more tolerant of typos. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9887t=9045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
At 08:46 PM 6/25/01, Michael L. Williams wrote: Doesn't IPX do more than just addressing, etc? Everything I've always read tells me that IPX can actually act as it's own connectionless transport protocol. Here are some things I've read that imply this. Tell me if this stuff is misleading or if I'm just reading it wrong: It's all essentially correct. It is simply describing a very normal layer-3 connectionless protocol that provides transport of datagrams. You could replace every instance of IPX with IP and it would also be correct. Change a few words here and there, like SPX - TCP, and this could be right out of TCP/IP Illustrated. SPX extends IPX connectionless datagram service by providing a facility for reliable connection oriented deliverly. IPX (Internetwork Packet Exchange) is a peer-to-peer protocol. It was derived from the XNS Internet Datagram protocol. IPX is a connectionless protocol. It's only concern is internetwork addressing and intranode addressing (sockets). IPX completely relies on the network hardware for the actual node addressing. (i.e. it uses the MAC address to complete an address) IPX is a datagram-based, connectionless protocol. Datagram-based, connectionless protocols do not require an acknowledgment for each packet sent. Packet acknowledgment, or connection control, must be provided by protocols above IPX IPX accomplishes these and other Network-layer tasks with the help of RIP, SAP, and NLSP Wouldn't all of these statements imply that IPX can be it's own transport, and therefore be considered Layer 4 as well? IPX is its own transport. That doesn't make it layer 4. IP is its own transport. It's not layer 4. There are cases of protocols that run directly over IP, without TCP or UDP, (ICMP, IGMP, OSPF, IGRP, etc.), just like there are cases of protocols that run directly over IPX without SPX (NCP, RIP, SAP). IPX RIP does path determination. Doesn't IPX RIP simply act as a routing protocol like IP RIP? Yes. Aside from allowing routing to share routes, IPX RIP doesn't actually perform the path determination does it? (i.e. the router still looks in the routing table at routes for path determination whether they're static, redistributed, or learned via IPX RIP) When forwarding frames, the router looks in the routing table for the next hop. The routing protocol does path determination, at least the way Cisco uses the term path determination. The routing protocol learns how to reach remote networks. But we're just mincing words now. The bottom line is that Novell protocols aren't anything special. If you know IP, you can learn IPX. I would say the only weird things are the sockets in the IPX header (but DDP has sockets too, so that's not unique) and that the common file-sharing protocol (NCP) runs right on top of IPX. It does not use SPX. NCP does its own sequencing, acknowledgements, flow control (with burst mode) even though it is supposedly an application-layer protocol. Priscilla By default, the Cisco IOS software redistributes IPX RIP routes into Enhanced IGRP, and vice versa. Please clarify, because I don't know tons about IPX/SPX and how they divy up the functions of path determination, etc. that well.. IPX does HAVE to use SPX for transport. Not sure if that was a typo, but IPX does NOT have to use SPX for transport. Most packets in an IPX network do not have an SPX header. You're right, it was a typo =) However, from my (again, limited) understanding, most everyday communications over IPX/SPX would need reliable transport (communications for login to servers, getting files and running applications from servers, etc..) and would need the SPX for reliability, correct? Thanks! Mike W. Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9890t=9045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
LOL That made my day =) Mike W. Howard C. Berkowitz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hey, hey, go to the basics list with those typos:))) After I gave a Cisco University VPN seminar and discovered I had described pubic key cryptography on the whiteboard, I am more tolerant of typos. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9911t=9045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
Thanks! I found the setting in the printer to disable the IPX. However Can we filter the IPX traffic on our 2900 IOS switches, and set based 5500 switches. IF yes.. what is the command to disable transmission of IPX traffic in the switches. -Original Message- From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:40 PM To: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] It may be an HP JetDirect card. Get rid of it by assigning your JetDirect and or Printer an IP Address (whichever you need to do) Turn IPX off on the JetDirect Print Server. OR Filter IPX at your router and see if you can still print. Then RE_check for your IPX.. Is it still there? Did printer stop working? If so then you may want to keep IPX till you can switch to IP. -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Hi. I use the fluke meter and ethereal software to check the health of our network and I found there are a lot of IPX traffic in our network. But we have no Novell server here and where is the IPX traffic coming from? In the ethereal output I saw a lot of statement like source destination Protocol Info 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP Nearest Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Response 0.0008c7280106 0.NBIPXFind name our domain name 0.0008c7280106 0.BROWSER Host Announcement workstation name workstation, server, print queue server, NT workstation, NT server, Potential browser. In fluke meter, I saw these IPX are mostly by printer and printer server? Why printer got something to do with IPX . How to get rid of this? Please advice Thanks -Original Message- From: jason douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what about ccie-pre-qualification test in boson cisco [7: 9041] I thought it was similar. frank wrote: compared with 350-001,easier or much the same? Thanks, frank -- Jason Douglas Lucent World Wide Services Pager 888-451-0755 == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9151t=9045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
After a quick search at cisco.com for filter ipx switch I found this link to filter saps. There are a number of documents related to IPX and access lists. You may want to do a quick search on the website to find your the commands you asked about. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios100/rpcr/58900.h tm#xtocid201853 -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 2:15 AM Can we filter the IPX traffic on our 2900 IOS switches, and set based 5500 switches. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9173t=9045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
IPX is layer 3 Switches operate at layer 2 CM -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20/06/01 08:14 Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Thanks! I found the setting in the printer to disable the IPX. However Can we filter the IPX traffic on our 2900 IOS switches, and set based 5500 switches. IF yes.. what is the command to disable transmission of IPX traffic in the switches. -Original Message- From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:40 PM To: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) Subject: RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] It may be an HP JetDirect card. Get rid of it by assigning your JetDirect and or Printer an IP Address (whichever you need to do) Turn IPX off on the JetDirect Print Server. OR Filter IPX at your router and see if you can still print. Then RE_check for your IPX.. Is it still there? Did printer stop working? If so then you may want to keep IPX till you can switch to IP. -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Hi. I use the fluke meter and ethereal software to check the health of our network and I found there are a lot of IPX traffic in our network. But we have no Novell server here and where is the IPX traffic coming from? In the ethereal output I saw a lot of statement like source destination Protocol Info 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP Nearest Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Response 0.0008c7280106 0.NBIPXFind name our domain name 0.0008c7280106 0.BROWSER Host Announcement workstation name workstation, server, print queue server, NT workstation, NT server, Potential browser. In fluke meter, I saw these IPX are mostly by printer and printer server? Why printer got something to do with IPX . How to get rid of this? Please advice Thanks -Original Message- From: jason douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what about ccie-pre-qualification test in boson cisco [7: 9041] I thought it was similar. frank wrote: compared with 350-001,easier or much the same? Thanks, frank -- Jason Douglas Lucent World Wide Services Pager 888-451-0755 == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9174t=9045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
-Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 2:15 AM Can we filter the IPX traffic on our 2900 IOS switches, and set based 5500 switches. IPX is a network-layer protocol. Switches work at the data-link layer. You wouldn't want to slow down your switches and expect them to look at more than the MAC addresses. Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9195t=9045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
Hi. I use the fluke meter and ethereal software to check the health of our network and I found there are a lot of IPX traffic in our network. But we have no Novell server here and where is the IPX traffic coming from? In the ethereal output I saw a lot of statement like source destination Protocol Info 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP Nearest Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Response 0.0008c7280106 0.NBIPXFind name our domain name 0.0008c7280106 0.BROWSER Host Announcement workstation name workstation, server, print queue server, NT workstation, NT server, Potential browser. In fluke meter, I saw these IPX are mostly by printer and printer server? Why printer got something to do with IPX . How to get rid of this? Please advice Thanks -Original Message- From: jason douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what about ccie-pre-qualification test in boson cisco [7: 9041] I thought it was similar. frank wrote: compared with 350-001,easier or much the same? Thanks, frank -- Jason Douglas Lucent World Wide Services Pager 888-451-0755 == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9045t=9045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
Have any of your servers/clients/machines in the network got IPX or any IPX clients installed or services for IPX. Karl - Original Message - From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 2:12 PM Subject: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Hi. I use the fluke meter and ethereal software to check the health of our network and I found there are a lot of IPX traffic in our network. But we have no Novell server here and where is the IPX traffic coming from? In the ethereal output I saw a lot of statement like source destination Protocol Info 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP Nearest Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Response 0.0008c7280106 0.NBIPXFind name our domain name 0.0008c7280106 0.BROWSER Host Announcement workstation name workstation, server, print queue server, NT workstation, NT server, Potential browser. In fluke meter, I saw these IPX are mostly by printer and printer server? Why printer got something to do with IPX . How to get rid of this? Please advice Thanks -Original Message- From: jason douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what about ccie-pre-qualification test in boson cisco [7: 9041] I thought it was similar. frank wrote: compared with 350-001,easier or much the same? Thanks, frank -- Jason Douglas Lucent World Wide Services Pager 888-451-0755 == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9051t=9045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
They can also communicate by IPX. The IPX addresses you are seeing are IPX Broadcasts. You using HP printers? do the printers have LCD or Other Management. IPX can be diabled. Damien -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 2:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Hi. I use the fluke meter and ethereal software to check the health of our network and I found there are a lot of IPX traffic in our network. But we have no Novell server here and where is the IPX traffic coming from? In the ethereal output I saw a lot of statement like source destination Protocol Info 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP Nearest Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Response 0.0008c7280106 0.NBIPXFind name our domain name 0.0008c7280106 0.BROWSER Host Announcement workstation name workstation, server, print queue server, NT workstation, NT server, Potential browser. In fluke meter, I saw these IPX are mostly by printer and printer server? Why printer got something to do with IPX . How to get rid of this? Please advice Thanks -Original Message- From: jason douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what about ccie-pre-qualification test in boson cisco [7: 9041] I thought it was similar. frank wrote: compared with 350-001,easier or much the same? Thanks, frank -- Jason Douglas Lucent World Wide Services Pager 888-451-0755 == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == ** The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. This message and any attachments have been scanned for viruses. Orbiscom Ltd. will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. www.Orbiscom.com ** Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9056t=9045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045]
If you have printers connected to your network by HP Jetdirect boxes or similar print servers they might be part of the problem. I often find jetdirect print servers with all their protocols enabled Dave H -Original Message- From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: why there are so many IPX traffic in my network [7:9045] Hi. I use the fluke meter and ethereal software to check the health of our network and I found there are a lot of IPX traffic in our network. But we have no Novell server here and where is the IPX traffic coming from? In the ethereal output I saw a lot of statement like source destination Protocol Info 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP Nearest Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Query 0.0008c7280106 0.IPX SAP General Response 0.0008c7280106 0.NBIPXFind name our domain name 0.0008c7280106 0.BROWSER Host Announcement workstation name workstation, server, print queue server, NT workstation, NT server, Potential browser. In fluke meter, I saw these IPX are mostly by printer and printer server? Why printer got something to do with IPX . How to get rid of this? Please advice Thanks -Original Message- From: jason douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what about ccie-pre-qualification test in boson cisco [7: 9041] I thought it was similar. frank wrote: compared with 350-001,easier or much the same? Thanks, frank -- Jason Douglas Lucent World Wide Services Pager 888-451-0755 == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9062t=9045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]