Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

[Charles Goldsmith]

If it's really Non-China, why does it only seem to be the camera models?

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:37 PM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:

> Where do we see this description? Source/Reference? (if you can share)
>
>
>
> ---
>
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>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
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>
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> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of *
> Nimloth
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:13 PM
> *To:* Anthony Holloway 
> *Cc:* Tucci, Ben via cisco-voip ; Norton,
> Mike 
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>
>
>
> NC = "Non-China COO" where COO is Country of origin ;)
>
> Case solved
>
> W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:09, użytkownik Nimloth 
> napisał:
>
> Not sure. I would guess not manufactured in China
>
> W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:07, użytkownik Anthony Holloway <
> avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com> napisał:
>
> So what is that, like it can't be imported and used inside of China?  Or
> that it wasn't manufactured in China?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:06 PM Nimloth < niml...@nimloth.pl> wrote:
>
> Non-China to be more accurate
>
> W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:05, użytkownik Nimloth < niml...@nimloth.pl>
> napisał:
>
> NC = No China
>
> W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:02, użytkownik Anthony Holloway <
> avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com> napisał:
>
> I think everyone is just guessing what NC stands for.  I'd like to think
> it's because it's Not Complete, and you have to build it yourself like a
> piece of Ikea furniture.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:59 PM James Buchanan < james.buchan...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> With much searching, this site:
> https://itprice.com/cisco/cp-8845-nc-k9=.html indicates that the "NC"
> phone is "Non-China" Country of Origin. I don't know that for sure, but I
> thought it was an interesting, undocumented interpretation. At least it
> would explain why it's more expensive.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> James
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 8:47 PM Pawlowski, Adam < aj...@buffalo.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Slightly bigger screen, and no USB port.
>
>
>
> I still don’t know why you’d want that unless you need Bluetooth are still
> security minded (?), or you use the wall mount kit and want the same
> appearance everywhere?
>
>
>
> Also I assume it can receive video so it can be used in a lobby or
> sensitive area if you do enough video calling and have something to see.
>
>
>
> The camera feels like you can snap it off pretty easily anyways.
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of *Lelio
> Fulgenzi
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:44 PM
> *To:* Hunter Fuller 
> *Cc:* Norton, Mike ; voyp list, cisco-voip (
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>
>
>
> In actuality, the 8845 includes: Integrated Bluetooth + Intelligent
> Proximity over what an 8841 has.
>
>
>
> From the brochure:
>
>
>
>
> https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-7940g/prod_brochure0900aecd800f6d4a.pdf
>
>
>
> Probably more.
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Hunter Fuller 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:35 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
> *Cc:* Charles Goldsmith ; Norton, Mike <
> mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>; voyp list, cisco-voip (
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>
>
>
> But isn't an 8845 without a camera basically an 8841? ... The use case for
> such a device would have to be unbelievably slim, surely...
>
>
> --
> Hunter Fuller
> Router Jockey
> VBH Annex B-5
> +1 256 824 5331
>
> Office of Information Technology
> The University of Alabama in Huntsville
> Network Engineering
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:30 PM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
>
> Hmmm, no camera would make sense.
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Charles Goldsmith 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:14 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
> *Cc:* Norton, Mike ; voyp list, cisco-voip (
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>
>
>
> More and more odd, when I 

Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

Where do we see this description? Source/Reference? (if you can share)

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Nimloth
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:13 PM
To: Anthony Holloway 
Cc: Tucci, Ben via cisco-voip ; Norton, Mike 

Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

NC = "Non-China COO" where COO is Country of origin ;)
Case solved
W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:09, użytkownik Nimloth 
mailto:niml...@nimloth.pl>> napisał:
Not sure. I would guess not manufactured in China
W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:07, użytkownik Anthony Holloway < 
avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com> 
napisał:
So what is that, like it can't be imported and used inside of China?  Or that 
it wasn't manufactured in China?

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:06 PM Nimloth < 
niml...@nimloth.pl> wrote:
Non-China to be more accurate
W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:05, użytkownik Nimloth < 
niml...@nimloth.pl> napisał:
NC = No China
W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:02, użytkownik Anthony Holloway < 
avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com> 
napisał:
I think everyone is just guessing what NC stands for.  I'd like to think it's 
because it's Not Complete, and you have to build it yourself like a piece of 
Ikea furniture.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:59 PM James Buchanan < 
james.buchan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

With much searching, this site: https://itprice.com/cisco/cp-8845-nc-k9=.html 
indicates that the "NC" phone is "Non-China" Country of Origin. I don't know 
that for sure, but I thought it was an interesting, undocumented 
interpretation. At least it would explain why it's more expensive.

Thanks,

James

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 8:47 PM Pawlowski, Adam < 
aj...@buffalo.edu> wrote:
Slightly bigger screen, and no USB port.

I still don’t know why you’d want that unless you need Bluetooth are still 
security minded (?), or you use the wall mount kit and want the same appearance 
everywhere?

Also I assume it can receive video so it can be used in a lobby or sensitive 
area if you do enough video calling and have something to see.

The camera feels like you can snap it off pretty easily anyways.

Adam


From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:44 PM
To: Hunter Fuller mailto:hf0...@uah.edu>>
Cc: Norton, Mike mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>>; 
voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

In actuality, the 8845 includes: Integrated Bluetooth + Intelligent Proximity 
over what an 8841 has.

From the brochure:

https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-7940g/prod_brochure0900aecd800f6d4a.pdf

Probably more.


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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook


From: Hunter Fuller mailto:hf0...@uah.edu>>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:35 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
Cc: Charles Goldsmith mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>>; 
Norton, Mike mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>>; voyp 
list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

But isn't an 8845 without a camera basically an 8841? ... The use case for such 
a device would have to be unbelievably slim, surely...

--
Hunter Fuller
Router Jockey
VBH Annex B-5
+1 256 824 5331

Office of Information Technology
The University of Alabama in Huntsville
Network Engineering


On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:30 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
Hmmm, no camera would make sense.

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook


From: Charles Goldsmith mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:14 PM
To: Lelio 

Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

[Nimloth]

NC = "Non-China COO" where COO is Country of origin ;)

Case solved

W dniu 17 wrz 2019, 22:09, o 22:09, użytkownik Nimloth  
napisał:
 >Not sure. I would guess not manufactured in China
>
>W dniu 17 wrz 2019, 22:07, o 22:07, użytkownik Anthony Holloway
> napisał:
> >So what is that, like it can't be imported and used inside of China?
>>Or
>>that it wasn't manufactured in China?
>>
>>On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:06 PM Nimloth  wrote:
>>
>>> Non-China to be more accurate
>>> W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:05, użytkownik Nimloth 
>>> napisał:

 NC = No China
 W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:02, użytkownik Anthony Holloway <
 avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com> napisał:
>
> I think everyone is just guessing what NC stands for.  I'd like to
>>think
> it's because it's Not Complete, and you have to build it yourself
>>like a
> piece of Ikea furniture.
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:59 PM James Buchanan <
> james.buchan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> With much searching, this site:
>> https://itprice.com/cisco/cp-8845-nc-k9=.html indicates that the
>>"NC"
>> phone is "Non-China" Country of Origin. I don't know that for
>>sure, but I
>> thought it was an interesting, undocumented interpretation. At
>>least it
>> would explain why it's more expensive.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> James
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 8:47 PM Pawlowski, Adam <
>>aj...@buffalo.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Slightly bigger screen, and no USB port.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I still don’t know why you’d want that unless you need Bluetooth
>>are
>>> still security minded (?), or you use the wall mount kit and
>want
>>the same
>>> appearance everywhere?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also I assume it can receive video so it can be used in a lobby
>>or
>>> sensitive area if you do enough video calling and have something
>>to see.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The camera feels like you can snap it off pretty easily anyways.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* cisco-voip  *On
>>Behalf Of
>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:44 PM
>>> *To:* Hunter Fuller 
>>> *Cc:* Norton, Mike ; voyp list,
>>cisco-voip (
>>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In actuality, the 8845 includes: Integrated Bluetooth +
>>Intelligent
>>> Proximity over what an 8841 has.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From the brochure:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-7940g/prod_brochure0900aecd800f6d4a.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Probably more.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>>
>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>>
>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E |
>>Guelph, ON
>>> | N1G 2W1
>>>
>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and
>Facebook
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life
>>tagline]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Hunter Fuller 
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:35 PM
>>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
>>> *Cc:* Charles Goldsmith ; Norton, Mike <
>>> mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>; voyp list, cisco-voip (
>>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But isn't an 8845 without a camera basically an 8841? ... The
>use
>>case
>>> for such a device would have to be unbelievably slim, surely...
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hunter Fuller
>>> Router Jockey
>>> VBH Annex B-5
>>> +1 256 824 5331
>>>
>>> Office of Information Technology
>>> The University of Alabama in Huntsville
>>> Network Engineering
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:30 PM Lelio Fulgenzi
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmmm, no camera would make sense.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>>
>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>>
>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E |
>>Guelph, ON
>>> | N1G 2W1
>>>
>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and
>Facebook
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life
>>tagline]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Charles Goldsmith 
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:14 PM
>>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
>>> 

Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

[Nimloth]

Not sure. I would guess not manufactured in China

W dniu 17 wrz 2019, 22:07, o 22:07, użytkownik Anthony Holloway 
 napisał:
 >So what is that, like it can't be imported and used inside of China?
>Or
>that it wasn't manufactured in China?
>
>On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:06 PM Nimloth  wrote:
>
>> Non-China to be more accurate
>> W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:05, użytkownik Nimloth 
>> napisał:
>>>
>>> NC = No China
>>> W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:02, użytkownik Anthony Holloway <
>>> avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com> napisał:

 I think everyone is just guessing what NC stands for.  I'd like to
>think
 it's because it's Not Complete, and you have to build it yourself
>like a
 piece of Ikea furniture.

 On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:59 PM James Buchanan <
 james.buchan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> With much searching, this site:
> https://itprice.com/cisco/cp-8845-nc-k9=.html indicates that the
>"NC"
> phone is "Non-China" Country of Origin. I don't know that for
>sure, but I
> thought it was an interesting, undocumented interpretation. At
>least it
> would explain why it's more expensive.
>
> Thanks,
>
> James
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 8:47 PM Pawlowski, Adam <
>aj...@buffalo.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Slightly bigger screen, and no USB port.
>>
>>
>>
>> I still don’t know why you’d want that unless you need Bluetooth
>are
>> still security minded (?), or you use the wall mount kit and want
>the same
>> appearance everywhere?
>>
>>
>>
>> Also I assume it can receive video so it can be used in a lobby
>or
>> sensitive area if you do enough video calling and have something
>to see.
>>
>>
>>
>> The camera feels like you can snap it off pretty easily anyways.
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* cisco-voip  *On
>Behalf Of
>> *Lelio Fulgenzi
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:44 PM
>> *To:* Hunter Fuller 
>> *Cc:* Norton, Mike ; voyp list,
>cisco-voip (
>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>
>>
>>
>> In actuality, the 8845 includes: Integrated Bluetooth +
>Intelligent
>> Proximity over what an 8841 has.
>>
>>
>>
>> From the brochure:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-7940g/prod_brochure0900aecd800f6d4a.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>> Probably more.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>
>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>
>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E |
>Guelph, ON
>> | N1G 2W1
>>
>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life
>tagline]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Hunter Fuller 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:35 PM
>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
>> *Cc:* Charles Goldsmith ; Norton, Mike <
>> mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>; voyp list, cisco-voip (
>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>
>>
>>
>> But isn't an 8845 without a camera basically an 8841? ... The use
>case
>> for such a device would have to be unbelievably slim, surely...
>>
>>
>> --
>> Hunter Fuller
>> Router Jockey
>> VBH Annex B-5
>> +1 256 824 5331
>>
>> Office of Information Technology
>> The University of Alabama in Huntsville
>> Network Engineering
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:30 PM Lelio Fulgenzi
>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hmmm, no camera would make sense.
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>
>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>
>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E |
>Guelph, ON
>> | N1G 2W1
>>
>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life
>tagline]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Charles Goldsmith 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:14 PM
>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
>> *Cc:* Norton, Mike ; voyp list,
>cisco-voip (
>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>
>>
>>
>> More and more odd, when I searched for that part number, I
>couldn't
>> find it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Could it be a No Camera option, since it seems 

Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

[Anthony Holloway]

So what is that, like it can't be imported and used inside of China?  Or
that it wasn't manufactured in China?

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:06 PM Nimloth  wrote:

> Non-China to be more accurate
> W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:05, użytkownik Nimloth 
> napisał:
>>
>> NC = No China
>> W dniu 17 wrz 2019, o 22:02, użytkownik Anthony Holloway <
>> avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com> napisał:
>>>
>>> I think everyone is just guessing what NC stands for.  I'd like to think
>>> it's because it's Not Complete, and you have to build it yourself like a
>>> piece of Ikea furniture.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:59 PM James Buchanan <
>>> james.buchan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hello,

 With much searching, this site:
 https://itprice.com/cisco/cp-8845-nc-k9=.html indicates that the "NC"
 phone is "Non-China" Country of Origin. I don't know that for sure, but I
 thought it was an interesting, undocumented interpretation. At least it
 would explain why it's more expensive.

 Thanks,

 James

 On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 8:47 PM Pawlowski, Adam < aj...@buffalo.edu>
 wrote:

> Slightly bigger screen, and no USB port.
>
>
>
> I still don’t know why you’d want that unless you need Bluetooth are
> still security minded (?), or you use the wall mount kit and want the same
> appearance everywhere?
>
>
>
> Also I assume it can receive video so it can be used in a lobby or
> sensitive area if you do enough video calling and have something to see.
>
>
>
> The camera feels like you can snap it off pretty easily anyways.
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of
> *Lelio Fulgenzi
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:44 PM
> *To:* Hunter Fuller 
> *Cc:* Norton, Mike ; voyp list, cisco-voip (
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>
>
>
> In actuality, the 8845 includes: Integrated Bluetooth + Intelligent
> Proximity over what an 8841 has.
>
>
>
> From the brochure:
>
>
>
>
> https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-7940g/prod_brochure0900aecd800f6d4a.pdf
>
>
>
> Probably more.
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON
> | N1G 2W1
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>
>
>
> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>
>
>
> *From:* Hunter Fuller 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:35 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
> *Cc:* Charles Goldsmith ; Norton, Mike <
> mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>; voyp list, cisco-voip (
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>
>
>
> But isn't an 8845 without a camera basically an 8841? ... The use case
> for such a device would have to be unbelievably slim, surely...
>
>
> --
> Hunter Fuller
> Router Jockey
> VBH Annex B-5
> +1 256 824 5331
>
> Office of Information Technology
> The University of Alabama in Huntsville
> Network Engineering
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:30 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
> wrote:
>
> Hmmm, no camera would make sense.
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON
> | N1G 2W1
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>
>
>
> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>
>
>
> *From:* Charles Goldsmith 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:14 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
> *Cc:* Norton, Mike ; voyp list, cisco-voip (
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>
>
>
> More and more odd, when I searched for that part number, I couldn't
> find it.
>
>
>
> Could it be a No Camera option, since it seems to only be coming up on
> phones that normally have a camera?
>
>
>
> The 8865 has a -nc but the 8851 does not
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:05 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
> wrote:
>
> I see it in ccw. The description is a little different. IP phone vs UC
> Phone.
>
>
>

Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

[Nimloth]

Non-China to be more accurate

W dniu 17 wrz 2019, 22:05, o 22:05, użytkownik Nimloth  
napisał:
 >NC = No China
>
>W dniu 17 wrz 2019, 22:02, o 22:02, użytkownik Anthony Holloway
> napisał:
> >I think everyone is just guessing what NC stands for.  I'd like to
>>think
>>it's because it's Not Complete, and you have to build it yourself like
>>a
>>piece of Ikea furniture.
>>
>>On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:59 PM James Buchanan
>>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> With much searching, this site:
>>> https://itprice.com/cisco/cp-8845-nc-k9=.html indicates that the
>"NC"
>>> phone is "Non-China" Country of Origin. I don't know that for sure,
>>but I
>>> thought it was an interesting, undocumented interpretation. At least
>>it
>>> would explain why it's more expensive.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 8:47 PM Pawlowski, Adam 
>>wrote:
>>>
 Slightly bigger screen, and no USB port.



 I still don’t know why you’d want that unless you need Bluetooth
>are
 still security minded (?), or you use the wall mount kit and want
>>the same
 appearance everywhere?



 Also I assume it can receive video so it can be used in a lobby or
 sensitive area if you do enough video calling and have something to
>>see.



 The camera feels like you can snap it off pretty easily anyways.



 Adam





 *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf
>>Of *Lelio
 Fulgenzi
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:44 PM
 *To:* Hunter Fuller 
 *Cc:* Norton, Mike ; voyp list, cisco-voip
>>(
 cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
 *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?



 In actuality, the 8845 includes: Integrated Bluetooth + Intelligent
 Proximity over what an 8841 has.



 From the brochure:





>>https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-7940g/prod_brochure0900aecd800f6d4a.pdf



 Probably more.





 ---

 *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst

 Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph

 Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph,
>>ON |
 N1G 2W1

 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca



 www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook



 [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]



 *From:* Hunter Fuller 
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:35 PM
 *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
 *Cc:* Charles Goldsmith ; Norton, Mike <
 mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>; voyp list, cisco-voip (
 cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
 *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?



 But isn't an 8845 without a camera basically an 8841? ... The use
>>case
 for such a device would have to be unbelievably slim, surely...


 --
 Hunter Fuller
 Router Jockey
 VBH Annex B-5
 +1 256 824 5331

 Office of Information Technology
 The University of Alabama in Huntsville
 Network Engineering





 On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:30 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
>>wrote:

 Hmmm, no camera would make sense.



 ---

 *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst

 Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph

 Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph,
>>ON |
 N1G 2W1

 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca



 www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook



 [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]



 *From:* Charles Goldsmith 
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:14 PM
 *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
 *Cc:* Norton, Mike ; voyp list, cisco-voip
>>(
 cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
 *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?



 More and more odd, when I searched for that part number, I couldn't
>>find
 it.



 Could it be a No Camera option, since it seems to only be coming up
>>on
 phones that normally have a camera?



 The 8865 has a -nc but the 8851 does not



 On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:05 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
>>wrote:

 I see it in ccw. The description is a little different. IP phone vs
>>UC
 Phone.





 ---

 *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst

 Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph

 Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph,
>>ON |
 N1G 2W1

 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca



 www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook



 [image: 

Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

[Nimloth]

NC = No China

W dniu 17 wrz 2019, 22:02, o 22:02, użytkownik Anthony Holloway 
 napisał:
 >I think everyone is just guessing what NC stands for.  I'd like to
>think
>it's because it's Not Complete, and you have to build it yourself like
>a
>piece of Ikea furniture.
>
>On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:59 PM James Buchanan
>
>wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> With much searching, this site:
>> https://itprice.com/cisco/cp-8845-nc-k9=.html indicates that the "NC"
>> phone is "Non-China" Country of Origin. I don't know that for sure,
>but I
>> thought it was an interesting, undocumented interpretation. At least
>it
>> would explain why it's more expensive.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> James
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 8:47 PM Pawlowski, Adam 
>wrote:
>>
>>> Slightly bigger screen, and no USB port.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I still don’t know why you’d want that unless you need Bluetooth are
>>> still security minded (?), or you use the wall mount kit and want
>the same
>>> appearance everywhere?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also I assume it can receive video so it can be used in a lobby or
>>> sensitive area if you do enough video calling and have something to
>see.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The camera feels like you can snap it off pretty easily anyways.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf
>Of *Lelio
>>> Fulgenzi
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:44 PM
>>> *To:* Hunter Fuller 
>>> *Cc:* Norton, Mike ; voyp list, cisco-voip
>(
>>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In actuality, the 8845 includes: Integrated Bluetooth + Intelligent
>>> Proximity over what an 8841 has.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From the brochure:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-7940g/prod_brochure0900aecd800f6d4a.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Probably more.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>>
>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>>
>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph,
>ON |
>>> N1G 2W1
>>>
>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Hunter Fuller 
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:35 PM
>>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
>>> *Cc:* Charles Goldsmith ; Norton, Mike <
>>> mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>; voyp list, cisco-voip (
>>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But isn't an 8845 without a camera basically an 8841? ... The use
>case
>>> for such a device would have to be unbelievably slim, surely...
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hunter Fuller
>>> Router Jockey
>>> VBH Annex B-5
>>> +1 256 824 5331
>>>
>>> Office of Information Technology
>>> The University of Alabama in Huntsville
>>> Network Engineering
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:30 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
>wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmmm, no camera would make sense.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>>
>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>>
>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph,
>ON |
>>> N1G 2W1
>>>
>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Charles Goldsmith 
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:14 PM
>>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
>>> *Cc:* Norton, Mike ; voyp list, cisco-voip
>(
>>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> More and more odd, when I searched for that part number, I couldn't
>find
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Could it be a No Camera option, since it seems to only be coming up
>on
>>> phones that normally have a camera?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The 8865 has a -nc but the 8851 does not
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:05 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
>wrote:
>>>
>>> I see it in ccw. The description is a little different. IP phone vs
>UC
>>> Phone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>>
>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>>
>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph,
>ON |
>>> N1G 2W1
>>>
>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf
>Of *Charles
>>> Goldsmith
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:57 PM
>>> *To:* Norton, Mike 
>>> *Cc:* voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <
>>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: 

Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

[Pawlowski, Adam]

I was hoping it was “no calling” which would solve a lot of complaints about 
spam calls

Get Outlook for iOS



On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 4:02 PM -0400, "Anthony Holloway" 
mailto:avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I think everyone is just guessing what NC stands for.  I'd like to think it's 
because it's Not Complete, and you have to build it yourself like a piece of 
Ikea furniture.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:59 PM James Buchanan 
mailto:james.buchan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,

With much searching, this site: https://itprice.com/cisco/cp-8845-nc-k9=.html 
indicates that the "NC" phone is "Non-China" Country of Origin. I don't know 
that for sure, but I thought it was an interesting, undocumented 
interpretation. At least it would explain why it's more expensive.

Thanks,

James

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 8:47 PM Pawlowski, Adam 
mailto:aj...@buffalo.edu>> wrote:
Slightly bigger screen, and no USB port.

I still don’t know why you’d want that unless you need Bluetooth are still 
security minded (?), or you use the wall mount kit and want the same appearance 
everywhere?

Also I assume it can receive video so it can be used in a lobby or sensitive 
area if you do enough video calling and have something to see.

The camera feels like you can snap it off pretty easily anyways.

Adam


From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:44 PM
To: Hunter Fuller mailto:hf0...@uah.edu>>
Cc: Norton, Mike mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>>; 
voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

In actuality, the 8845 includes: Integrated Bluetooth + Intelligent Proximity 
over what an 8841 has.

>From the brochure:

https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-7940g/prod_brochure0900aecd800f6d4a.pdf

Probably more.


---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: Hunter Fuller mailto:hf0...@uah.edu>>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:35 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
Cc: Charles Goldsmith mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>>; 
Norton, Mike mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>>; voyp 
list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

But isn't an 8845 without a camera basically an 8841? ... The use case for such 
a device would have to be unbelievably slim, surely...

--
Hunter Fuller
Router Jockey
VBH Annex B-5
+1 256 824 5331

Office of Information Technology
The University of Alabama in Huntsville
Network Engineering


On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:30 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
Hmmm, no camera would make sense.

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: Charles Goldsmith mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:14 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
Cc: Norton, Mike mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>>; 
voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

More and more odd, when I searched for that part number, I couldn't find it.

Could it be a No Camera option, since it seems to only be coming up on phones 
that normally have a camera?

The 8865 has a -nc but the 8851 does not

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:05 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
I see it in ccw. The description is a little different. IP phone vs UC Phone.

[cid:16d40cd40a35b16b22]

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Charles Goldsmith
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 

Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

[Chester Rieman]

CP-8845-NC-K9= is called 
Cisco UC Phone 8845

CP-8845-K9= is called 
Cisco IP Phone 8845 

I have no idea what the diff is between an IP phone and a UC phone


> On Sep 17, 2019, at 3:30 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
> 
> Hmmm, no camera would make sense. 
>  
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 
> 2W1
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca 
>  
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs  | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
> Twitter and Facebook
>  
> 
>  
> From: Charles Goldsmith mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>> 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:14 PM
> To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
> Cc: Norton, Mike mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>>; 
> voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net 
> )  >
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>  
> More and more odd, when I searched for that part number, I couldn't find it.
>  
> Could it be a No Camera option, since it seems to only be coming up on phones 
> that normally have a camera?
>  
> The 8865 has a -nc but the 8851 does not
>  
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:05 PM Lelio Fulgenzi  > wrote:
> I see it in ccw. The description is a little different. IP phone vs UC Phone.
>  
> 
>  
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 
> 2W1
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca 
>  
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs  | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
> Twitter and Facebook
>  
> 
>  
> From: cisco-voip  > On Behalf Of Charles Goldsmith
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:57 PM
> To: Norton, Mike mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>>
> Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net 
> )  >
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>  
> Well, I was way off...
>  
> I can't find that part number in CCW at all, and I was thinking of the NR 
> version, which is no radio anyway.
>  
> Lelio, where did you see CP-8845-NC-K9?
>  
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:34 PM Norton, Mike  > wrote:
> But I thought K9 means "strong crypto"? So NC-K9 is "no crypto *and* strong 
> crypto"
> 
> -mn
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: cisco-voip  > On Behalf Of Charles Goldsmith
> Sent: September 13, 2019 3:30 PM
> To: Myron Young mailto:mdavid_yo...@hotmail.com>>
> Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net 
> )  >
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
> 
> Export purposes 
> 
> > On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Myron Young  > > wrote:
> > 
> > Maybe this is a silly question, but why would anyone want a no crypto phone?
> > 
> >> On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi  >> > wrote:
> >> 
> >> AH. Gotcha. 
> >> 
> >> ---
> >> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications 
> >> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition 
> >> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
> >> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca 
> >> 
> >> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs  | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
> >> Twitter and Facebook
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Charles Goldsmith  >> >
> >> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 4:05 PM
> >> To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
> >> Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net 
> >> ) 
> >> mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
> >> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
> >> 
> >> No crypto
> >> 
> >>> On Sep 13, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi  >>> > wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Anyone know what the NC model of phones are?
> >>> 
> >>> There's the CP-8845-K9=, but also the CP-8845-NC-K9=. And the NC version 
> >>> is more expensive with a longer lead time.
> >>> 
> >>> Can't find any details on the datasheet or any google search.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> ---
> >>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications 
> >>> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition 
> >>> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
> >>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | 
> >>> le...@uoguelph.ca  >>> >
> >>> 
> >>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs 
> >>> 

Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

[Anthony Holloway]

I think everyone is just guessing what NC stands for.  I'd like to think
it's because it's Not Complete, and you have to build it yourself like a
piece of Ikea furniture.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:59 PM James Buchanan 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> With much searching, this site:
> https://itprice.com/cisco/cp-8845-nc-k9=.html indicates that the "NC"
> phone is "Non-China" Country of Origin. I don't know that for sure, but I
> thought it was an interesting, undocumented interpretation. At least it
> would explain why it's more expensive.
>
> Thanks,
>
> James
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 8:47 PM Pawlowski, Adam  wrote:
>
>> Slightly bigger screen, and no USB port.
>>
>>
>>
>> I still don’t know why you’d want that unless you need Bluetooth are
>> still security minded (?), or you use the wall mount kit and want the same
>> appearance everywhere?
>>
>>
>>
>> Also I assume it can receive video so it can be used in a lobby or
>> sensitive area if you do enough video calling and have something to see.
>>
>>
>>
>> The camera feels like you can snap it off pretty easily anyways.
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of *Lelio
>> Fulgenzi
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:44 PM
>> *To:* Hunter Fuller 
>> *Cc:* Norton, Mike ; voyp list, cisco-voip (
>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>
>>
>>
>> In actuality, the 8845 includes: Integrated Bluetooth + Intelligent
>> Proximity over what an 8841 has.
>>
>>
>>
>> From the brochure:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-7940g/prod_brochure0900aecd800f6d4a.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>> Probably more.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>
>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>
>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
>> N1G 2W1
>>
>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Hunter Fuller 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:35 PM
>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
>> *Cc:* Charles Goldsmith ; Norton, Mike <
>> mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>; voyp list, cisco-voip (
>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>
>>
>>
>> But isn't an 8845 without a camera basically an 8841? ... The use case
>> for such a device would have to be unbelievably slim, surely...
>>
>>
>> --
>> Hunter Fuller
>> Router Jockey
>> VBH Annex B-5
>> +1 256 824 5331
>>
>> Office of Information Technology
>> The University of Alabama in Huntsville
>> Network Engineering
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:30 PM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
>>
>> Hmmm, no camera would make sense.
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>
>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>
>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
>> N1G 2W1
>>
>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Charles Goldsmith 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:14 PM
>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
>> *Cc:* Norton, Mike ; voyp list, cisco-voip (
>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>
>>
>>
>> More and more odd, when I searched for that part number, I couldn't find
>> it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Could it be a No Camera option, since it seems to only be coming up on
>> phones that normally have a camera?
>>
>>
>>
>> The 8865 has a -nc but the 8851 does not
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:05 PM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
>>
>> I see it in ccw. The description is a little different. IP phone vs UC
>> Phone.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>
>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>
>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
>> N1G 2W1
>>
>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of 
>> *Charles
>> Goldsmith
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:57 PM
>> *To:* Norton, Mike 
>> *Cc:* voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <
>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, I was way off...
>>
>>
>>
>> I can't find that part number in CCW at all, and I was thinking of the NR
>> version, which is no radio anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lelio, where did you see CP-8845-NC-K9?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:34 PM Norton, Mike 
>> wrote:
>>

Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

[James Buchanan]

Hello,

With much searching, this site:
https://itprice.com/cisco/cp-8845-nc-k9=.html indicates that the "NC" phone
is "Non-China" Country of Origin. I don't know that for sure, but I thought
it was an interesting, undocumented interpretation. At least it would
explain why it's more expensive.

Thanks,

James

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 8:47 PM Pawlowski, Adam  wrote:

> Slightly bigger screen, and no USB port.
>
>
>
> I still don’t know why you’d want that unless you need Bluetooth are still
> security minded (?), or you use the wall mount kit and want the same
> appearance everywhere?
>
>
>
> Also I assume it can receive video so it can be used in a lobby or
> sensitive area if you do enough video calling and have something to see.
>
>
>
> The camera feels like you can snap it off pretty easily anyways.
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of *Lelio
> Fulgenzi
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:44 PM
> *To:* Hunter Fuller 
> *Cc:* Norton, Mike ; voyp list, cisco-voip (
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>
>
>
> In actuality, the 8845 includes: Integrated Bluetooth + Intelligent
> Proximity over what an 8841 has.
>
>
>
> From the brochure:
>
>
>
>
> https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-7940g/prod_brochure0900aecd800f6d4a.pdf
>
>
>
> Probably more.
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>
>
>
> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>
>
>
> *From:* Hunter Fuller 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:35 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
> *Cc:* Charles Goldsmith ; Norton, Mike <
> mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>; voyp list, cisco-voip (
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>
>
>
> But isn't an 8845 without a camera basically an 8841? ... The use case for
> such a device would have to be unbelievably slim, surely...
>
>
> --
> Hunter Fuller
> Router Jockey
> VBH Annex B-5
> +1 256 824 5331
>
> Office of Information Technology
> The University of Alabama in Huntsville
> Network Engineering
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:30 PM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
>
> Hmmm, no camera would make sense.
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>
>
>
> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>
>
>
> *From:* Charles Goldsmith 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:14 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
> *Cc:* Norton, Mike ; voyp list, cisco-voip (
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>
>
>
> More and more odd, when I searched for that part number, I couldn't find
> it.
>
>
>
> Could it be a No Camera option, since it seems to only be coming up on
> phones that normally have a camera?
>
>
>
> The 8865 has a -nc but the 8851 does not
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:05 PM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
>
> I see it in ccw. The description is a little different. IP phone vs UC
> Phone.
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>
>
>
> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of *Charles
> Goldsmith
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:57 PM
> *To:* Norton, Mike 
> *Cc:* voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>
>
>
> Well, I was way off...
>
>
>
> I can't find that part number in CCW at all, and I was thinking of the NR
> version, which is no radio anyway.
>
>
>
> Lelio, where did you see CP-8845-NC-K9?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:34 PM Norton, Mike 
> wrote:
>
> But I thought K9 means "strong crypto"? So NC-K9 is "no crypto *and*
> strong crypto"
>
> -mn
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of
> Charles Goldsmith
> Sent: September 13, 2019 3:30 PM
> To: Myron Young 
> Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>
> Export purposes
>
> > On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Myron Young 
> wrote:
> 

Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber with CCX , over MRA

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

Interesting… that 2ring looks neat.

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Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

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Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: Anthony Holloway 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:56 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi 
Cc: Pawlowski, Adam ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber with CCX , over MRA

As in, load FIPPA in a custom tab?  I haven't tried this, but in theory it 
should not work, because the FIPPA source code is formatted specifically for IP 
Phones to understand and not your average web browser.

You could however just roll your own FIPPA client for a custom tab in jabber.  
Or just purchase 2ring Compact Agent.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 12:36 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

I’m eager to find out if Jabber supports the phone agent….

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Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Anthony Holloway
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 1:32 PM
To: Pawlowski, Adam mailto:aj...@buffalo.edu>>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber with CCX , over MRA

The UCCX 12.x SRND is telling us that an end point (like CSF or 8851) 
registered via MRA is supported as an Agent device.

It also tells us that the Agent's access to Finesse for sign-in/state changes 
is only available over VPN or direct internet access to Finesse.

However, if VPN is all you got, then Jabber over MRA is not necessary.  
Therefore, expose your Finesse to the internet (port usage guide) and have your 
cake and eat it too.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 11:57 AM Pawlowski, Adam 
mailto:aj...@buffalo.edu>> wrote:
Good afternoon all,

Just trying to get my notes together on the subject of using Jabber as an agent 
softphone, with UCCX (12) , over MRA. Recently saw some commentary that it is 
not supported, but, it’s not explicitly called out that I can tell.

The CCX SRND mentions that Expressway is supported “as an endpoint”, Jabber can 
be used, but doesn’t call any specific limitation to the two. This guide does 
say that Multiline is not supported which seemed to be new.

As far as I can tell it is working just fine to use with Finesse over MRA, the 
only thing I haven’t done yet is looked at traffic to see if it/CTI works 
because it can reach the UCM directly.

Anyone have any experience with trying to implement that, or, if they know for 
sure it is problematic or … not ?

Adam
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Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber with CCX , over MRA

[Anthony Holloway]

As in, load FIPPA in a custom tab?  I haven't tried this, but in theory it
should not work, because the FIPPA source code is formatted specifically
for IP Phones to understand and not your average web browser.

You could however just roll your own FIPPA client for a custom tab in
jabber.  Or just purchase 2ring Compact Agent.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 12:36 PM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:

>
>
> I’m eager to find out if Jabber supports the phone agent….
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>
>
>
> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of *Anthony
> Holloway
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 1:32 PM
> *To:* Pawlowski, Adam 
> *Cc:* cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber with CCX , over MRA
>
>
>
> The UCCX 12.x SRND is telling us that an end point (like CSF or 8851)
> registered via MRA is supported as an Agent device.
>
>
>
> It also tells us that the Agent's access to Finesse for sign-in/state
> changes is only available over VPN or direct internet access to Finesse.
>
>
>
> However, if VPN is all you got, then Jabber over MRA is not necessary.
> Therefore, expose your Finesse to the internet (port usage guide) and have
> your cake and eat it too.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 11:57 AM Pawlowski, Adam 
> wrote:
>
> Good afternoon all,
>
>
>
> Just trying to get my notes together on the subject of using Jabber as an
> agent softphone, with UCCX (12) , over MRA. Recently saw some commentary
> that it is not supported, but, it’s not explicitly called out that I can
> tell.
>
>
>
> The CCX SRND mentions that Expressway is supported “as an endpoint”,
> Jabber can be used, but doesn’t call any specific limitation to the two.
> This guide does say that Multiline is not supported which seemed to be new.
>
>
>
> As far as I can tell it is working just fine to use with Finesse over MRA,
> the only thing I haven’t done yet is looked at traffic to see if it/CTI
> works because it can reach the UCM directly.
>
>
>
> Anyone have any experience with trying to implement that, or, if they know
> for sure it is problematic or … not ?
>
>
>
> Adam
>
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Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

[Pawlowski, Adam]

Slightly bigger screen, and no USB port.

I still don’t know why you’d want that unless you need Bluetooth are still 
security minded (?), or you use the wall mount kit and want the same appearance 
everywhere?

Also I assume it can receive video so it can be used in a lobby or sensitive 
area if you do enough video calling and have something to see.

The camera feels like you can snap it off pretty easily anyways.

Adam


From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:44 PM
To: Hunter Fuller 
Cc: Norton, Mike ; voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

In actuality, the 8845 includes: Integrated Bluetooth + Intelligent Proximity 
over what an 8841 has.

From the brochure:

https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-7940g/prod_brochure0900aecd800f6d4a.pdf

Probably more.


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Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: Hunter Fuller mailto:hf0...@uah.edu>>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:35 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
Cc: Charles Goldsmith mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>>; 
Norton, Mike mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>>; voyp 
list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

But isn't an 8845 without a camera basically an 8841? ... The use case for such 
a device would have to be unbelievably slim, surely...

--
Hunter Fuller
Router Jockey
VBH Annex B-5
+1 256 824 5331

Office of Information Technology
The University of Alabama in Huntsville
Network Engineering


On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:30 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
Hmmm, no camera would make sense.

---
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Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: Charles Goldsmith mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:14 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
Cc: Norton, Mike mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>>; 
voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

More and more odd, when I searched for that part number, I couldn't find it.

Could it be a No Camera option, since it seems to only be coming up on phones 
that normally have a camera?

The 8865 has a -nc but the 8851 does not

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:05 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
I see it in ccw. The description is a little different. IP phone vs UC Phone.

[cid:image002.png@01D56D6F.1D38B230]

---
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Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Charles Goldsmith
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:57 PM
To: Norton, Mike mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>>
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

Well, I was way off...

I can't find that part number in CCW at all, and I was thinking of the NR 
version, which is no radio anyway.

Lelio, where did you see CP-8845-NC-K9?

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:34 PM Norton, Mike 
mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>> wrote:
But I thought K9 means "strong crypto"? So NC-K9 is "no crypto *and* strong 
crypto"

-mn


-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Charles Goldsmith
Sent: September 13, 2019 3:30 PM
To: Myron Young mailto:mdavid_yo...@hotmail.com>>
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

Export purposes

> On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Myron Young 
> 

Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

In actuality, the 8845 includes: Integrated Bluetooth + Intelligent Proximity 
over what an 8841 has.

From the brochure:

https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-7940g/prod_brochure0900aecd800f6d4a.pdf

Probably more.


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Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: Hunter Fuller 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:35 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi 
Cc: Charles Goldsmith ; Norton, Mike 
; voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 

Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

But isn't an 8845 without a camera basically an 8841? ... The use case for such 
a device would have to be unbelievably slim, surely...

--
Hunter Fuller
Router Jockey
VBH Annex B-5
+1 256 824 5331

Office of Information Technology
The University of Alabama in Huntsville
Network Engineering


On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:30 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
Hmmm, no camera would make sense.

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: Charles Goldsmith mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:14 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
Cc: Norton, Mike mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>>; 
voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

More and more odd, when I searched for that part number, I couldn't find it.

Could it be a No Camera option, since it seems to only be coming up on phones 
that normally have a camera?

The 8865 has a -nc but the 8851 does not

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:05 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
I see it in ccw. The description is a little different. IP phone vs UC Phone.

[cid:image002.png@01D56D6E.C4C7DB80]

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Charles Goldsmith
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:57 PM
To: Norton, Mike mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>>
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

Well, I was way off...

I can't find that part number in CCW at all, and I was thinking of the NR 
version, which is no radio anyway.

Lelio, where did you see CP-8845-NC-K9?

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:34 PM Norton, Mike 
mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>> wrote:
But I thought K9 means "strong crypto"? So NC-K9 is "no crypto *and* strong 
crypto"

-mn


-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Charles Goldsmith
Sent: September 13, 2019 3:30 PM
To: Myron Young mailto:mdavid_yo...@hotmail.com>>
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

Export purposes

> On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Myron Young 
> mailto:mdavid_yo...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Maybe this is a silly question, but why would anyone want a no crypto phone?
>
>> On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
>> mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> AH. Gotcha.
>>
>> ---
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications
>> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition
>> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>>
>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
>> Twitter and Facebook
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Charles Goldsmith mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 4:05 PM
>> To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
>> Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
>> 

Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

And you’re paying more!

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: Hunter Fuller 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:35 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi 
Cc: Charles Goldsmith ; Norton, Mike 
; voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 

Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

But isn't an 8845 without a camera basically an 8841? ... The use case for such 
a device would have to be unbelievably slim, surely...

--
Hunter Fuller
Router Jockey
VBH Annex B-5
+1 256 824 5331

Office of Information Technology
The University of Alabama in Huntsville
Network Engineering


On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:30 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
Hmmm, no camera would make sense.

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: Charles Goldsmith mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:14 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
Cc: Norton, Mike mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>>; 
voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

More and more odd, when I searched for that part number, I couldn't find it.

Could it be a No Camera option, since it seems to only be coming up on phones 
that normally have a camera?

The 8865 has a -nc but the 8851 does not

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:05 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
I see it in ccw. The description is a little different. IP phone vs UC Phone.

[cid:image002.png@01D56D6E.75D01920]

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Charles Goldsmith
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:57 PM
To: Norton, Mike mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>>
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

Well, I was way off...

I can't find that part number in CCW at all, and I was thinking of the NR 
version, which is no radio anyway.

Lelio, where did you see CP-8845-NC-K9?

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:34 PM Norton, Mike 
mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>> wrote:
But I thought K9 means "strong crypto"? So NC-K9 is "no crypto *and* strong 
crypto"

-mn


-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Charles Goldsmith
Sent: September 13, 2019 3:30 PM
To: Myron Young mailto:mdavid_yo...@hotmail.com>>
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

Export purposes

> On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Myron Young 
> mailto:mdavid_yo...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Maybe this is a silly question, but why would anyone want a no crypto phone?
>
>> On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
>> mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> AH. Gotcha.
>>
>> ---
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications
>> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition
>> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>>
>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
>> Twitter and Facebook
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Charles Goldsmith mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 4:05 PM
>> To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
>> Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
>> (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
>> mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>
>> No crypto
>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
>>> mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 

Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

[Hunter Fuller]

But isn't an 8845 without a camera basically an 8841? ... The use case for
such a device would have to be unbelievably slim, surely...

--
Hunter Fuller
Router Jockey
VBH Annex B-5
+1 256 824 5331

Office of Information Technology
The University of Alabama in Huntsville
Network Engineering


On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:30 PM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:

> Hmmm, no camera would make sense.
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>
>
>
> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>
>
>
> *From:* Charles Goldsmith 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:14 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
> *Cc:* Norton, Mike ; voyp list, cisco-voip (
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>
>
>
> More and more odd, when I searched for that part number, I couldn't find
> it.
>
>
>
> Could it be a No Camera option, since it seems to only be coming up on
> phones that normally have a camera?
>
>
>
> The 8865 has a -nc but the 8851 does not
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:05 PM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
>
> I see it in ccw. The description is a little different. IP phone vs UC
> Phone.
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>
>
>
> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of *Charles
> Goldsmith
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:57 PM
> *To:* Norton, Mike 
> *Cc:* voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>
>
>
> Well, I was way off...
>
>
>
> I can't find that part number in CCW at all, and I was thinking of the NR
> version, which is no radio anyway.
>
>
>
> Lelio, where did you see CP-8845-NC-K9?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:34 PM Norton, Mike 
> wrote:
>
> But I thought K9 means "strong crypto"? So NC-K9 is "no crypto *and*
> strong crypto"
>
> -mn
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of
> Charles Goldsmith
> Sent: September 13, 2019 3:30 PM
> To: Myron Young 
> Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>
> Export purposes
>
> > On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Myron Young 
> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe this is a silly question, but why would anyone want a no crypto
> phone?
> >
> >> On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
> >>
> >> AH. Gotcha.
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications
> >> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition
> >> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
> >> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
> >>
> >> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Charles Goldsmith 
> >> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 4:05 PM
> >> To: Lelio Fulgenzi 
> >> Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
> >> 
> >> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
> >>
> >> No crypto
> >>
> >>> On Sep 13, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Anyone know what the NC model of phones are?
> >>>
> >>> There's the CP-8845-K9=, but also the CP-8845-NC-K9=. And the NC
> version is more expensive with a longer lead time.
> >>>
> >>> Can't find any details on the datasheet or any google search.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications
> >>> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition
> >>> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
> >>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 |
> >>> le...@uoguelph.ca
> >>>
> >>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on
> >>> Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
> >>>
> >>> [University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> ___
> >>> cisco-voip mailing list
> >>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> >>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
> >> ___
> >> cisco-voip mailing list
> >> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> >> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
> ___
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
> 

Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

Hmmm, no camera would make sense.

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: Charles Goldsmith 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:14 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi 
Cc: Norton, Mike ; voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

More and more odd, when I searched for that part number, I couldn't find it.

Could it be a No Camera option, since it seems to only be coming up on phones 
that normally have a camera?

The 8865 has a -nc but the 8851 does not

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:05 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
I see it in ccw. The description is a little different. IP phone vs UC Phone.

[cid:image002.png@01D56D6C.D7BB4E90]

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Charles Goldsmith
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:57 PM
To: Norton, Mike mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>>
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

Well, I was way off...

I can't find that part number in CCW at all, and I was thinking of the NR 
version, which is no radio anyway.

Lelio, where did you see CP-8845-NC-K9?

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:34 PM Norton, Mike 
mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>> wrote:
But I thought K9 means "strong crypto"? So NC-K9 is "no crypto *and* strong 
crypto"

-mn


-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Charles Goldsmith
Sent: September 13, 2019 3:30 PM
To: Myron Young mailto:mdavid_yo...@hotmail.com>>
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

Export purposes

> On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Myron Young 
> mailto:mdavid_yo...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Maybe this is a silly question, but why would anyone want a no crypto phone?
>
>> On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
>> mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> AH. Gotcha.
>>
>> ---
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications
>> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition
>> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>>
>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
>> Twitter and Facebook
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Charles Goldsmith mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 4:05 PM
>> To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
>> Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
>> (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
>> mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>
>> No crypto
>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
>>> mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone know what the NC model of phones are?
>>>
>>> There's the CP-8845-K9=, but also the CP-8845-NC-K9=. And the NC version is 
>>> more expensive with a longer lead time.
>>>
>>> Can't find any details on the datasheet or any google search.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications
>>> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition
>>> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 |
>>> le...@uoguelph.ca>
>>>
>>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs 
>>> | @UofGCCS on
>>> Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>>
>>> [University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>>>
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> cisco-voip mailing list
>>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>> ___
>> cisco-voip mailing list
>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip

Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

[Charles Goldsmith]

More and more odd, when I searched for that part number, I couldn't find it.

Could it be a No Camera option, since it seems to only be coming up on
phones that normally have a camera?

The 8865 has a -nc but the 8851 does not

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:05 PM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:

> I see it in ccw. The description is a little different. IP phone vs UC
> Phone.
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>
>
>
> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of *Charles
> Goldsmith
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:57 PM
> *To:* Norton, Mike 
> *Cc:* voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>
>
>
> Well, I was way off...
>
>
>
> I can't find that part number in CCW at all, and I was thinking of the NR
> version, which is no radio anyway.
>
>
>
> Lelio, where did you see CP-8845-NC-K9?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:34 PM Norton, Mike 
> wrote:
>
> But I thought K9 means "strong crypto"? So NC-K9 is "no crypto *and*
> strong crypto"
>
> -mn
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of
> Charles Goldsmith
> Sent: September 13, 2019 3:30 PM
> To: Myron Young 
> Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>
> Export purposes
>
> > On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Myron Young 
> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe this is a silly question, but why would anyone want a no crypto
> phone?
> >
> >> On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
> >>
> >> AH. Gotcha.
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications
> >> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition
> >> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
> >> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Charles Goldsmith 
> >> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 4:05 PM
> >> To: Lelio Fulgenzi 
> >> Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
> >> 
> >> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
> >>
> >> No crypto
> >>
> >>> On Sep 13, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Anyone know what the NC model of phones are?
> >>>
> >>> There's the CP-8845-K9=, but also the CP-8845-NC-K9=. And the NC
> version is more expensive with a longer lead time.
> >>>
> >>> Can't find any details on the datasheet or any google search.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications
> >>> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition
> >>> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
> >>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 |
> >>> le...@uoguelph.ca
> >>>
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> >>> Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
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Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

I see it in ccw. The description is a little different. IP phone vs UC Phone.

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From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Charles 
Goldsmith
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:57 PM
To: Norton, Mike 
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 

Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

Well, I was way off...

I can't find that part number in CCW at all, and I was thinking of the NR 
version, which is no radio anyway.

Lelio, where did you see CP-8845-NC-K9?

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:34 PM Norton, Mike 
mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>> wrote:
But I thought K9 means "strong crypto"? So NC-K9 is "no crypto *and* strong 
crypto"

-mn


-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Charles Goldsmith
Sent: September 13, 2019 3:30 PM
To: Myron Young mailto:mdavid_yo...@hotmail.com>>
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

Export purposes

> On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Myron Young 
> mailto:mdavid_yo...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Maybe this is a silly question, but why would anyone want a no crypto phone?
>
>> On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
>> mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> AH. Gotcha.
>>
>> ---
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications
>> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition
>> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>>
>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
>> Twitter and Facebook
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>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Charles Goldsmith mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 4:05 PM
>> To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
>> Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
>> (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
>> mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>>
>> No crypto
>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
>>> mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone know what the NC model of phones are?
>>>
>>> There's the CP-8845-K9=, but also the CP-8845-NC-K9=. And the NC version is 
>>> more expensive with a longer lead time.
>>>
>>> Can't find any details on the datasheet or any google search.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications
>>> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition
>>> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 |
>>> le...@uoguelph.ca>
>>>
>>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs 
>>> | @UofGCCS on
>>> Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>>
>>> [University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>>>
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Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?

[Charles Goldsmith]

Well, I was way off...

I can't find that part number in CCW at all, and I was thinking of the NR
version, which is no radio anyway.

Lelio, where did you see CP-8845-NC-K9?

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:34 PM Norton, Mike 
wrote:

> But I thought K9 means "strong crypto"? So NC-K9 is "no crypto *and*
> strong crypto"
>
> -mn
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of
> Charles Goldsmith
> Sent: September 13, 2019 3:30 PM
> To: Myron Young 
> Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
>
> Export purposes
>
> > On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Myron Young 
> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe this is a silly question, but why would anyone want a no crypto
> phone?
> >
> >> On Sep 13, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
> >>
> >> AH. Gotcha.
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications
> >> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition
> >> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
> >> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
> >>
> >> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Charles Goldsmith 
> >> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 4:05 PM
> >> To: Lelio Fulgenzi 
> >> Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
> >> 
> >> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] what's the NC model of phones?
> >>
> >> No crypto
> >>
> >>> On Sep 13, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Anyone know what the NC model of phones are?
> >>>
> >>> There's the CP-8845-K9=, but also the CP-8845-NC-K9=. And the NC
> version is more expensive with a longer lead time.
> >>>
> >>> Can't find any details on the datasheet or any google search.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications
> >>> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition
> >>> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
> >>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 |
> >>> le...@uoguelph.ca
> >>>
> >>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on
> >>> Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
> >>>
> >>> [University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
> >>>
> >>> 
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Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber with CCX , over MRA

[Pawlowski, Adam]

I run all MRA here out of design necessity , so on premise are MRA as well . 
Minimal amount of hackers around here that I’m aware of , but plenty of NAT and 
poorly configured desktop firewall programs.

The guide also says :

•  The following features are not supported if you are using Cisco Jabber as an 
agent phone:

· Multiline (ACD and non-ACD)

· Extension Mobility
(https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cust_contact/contact_center/crs/express_12_0/design/guide/uccx_b_solution-design-guide-1201/uccx_b_solution-design-guide-1201_chapter_010.html)

I assume that’s legacy information from Jabber 12.0 days.

A recent presentation regarding MRA updates, I thought during some question and 
answer someone asked about UCCn agent over MRA with Jabber and got a “no” 
answer but that really is too narrow of a question.

Thanks all

I’ll play around and see what it does.

From: Anthony Holloway 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 1:32 PM
To: Pawlowski, Adam 
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber with CCX , over MRA

The UCCX 12.x SRND is telling us that an end point (like CSF or 8851) 
registered via MRA is supported as an Agent device.

It also tells us that the Agent's access to Finesse for sign-in/state changes 
is only available over VPN or direct internet access to Finesse.

However, if VPN is all you got, then Jabber over MRA is not necessary.  
Therefore, expose your Finesse to the internet (port usage guide) and have your 
cake and eat it too.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 11:57 AM Pawlowski, Adam 
mailto:aj...@buffalo.edu>> wrote:
Good afternoon all,

Just trying to get my notes together on the subject of using Jabber as an agent 
softphone, with UCCX (12) , over MRA. Recently saw some commentary that it is 
not supported, but, it’s not explicitly called out that I can tell.

The CCX SRND mentions that Expressway is supported “as an endpoint”, Jabber can 
be used, but doesn’t call any specific limitation to the two. This guide does 
say that Multiline is not supported which seemed to be new.

As far as I can tell it is working just fine to use with Finesse over MRA, the 
only thing I haven’t done yet is looked at traffic to see if it/CTI works 
because it can reach the UCM directly.

Anyone have any experience with trying to implement that, or, if they know for 
sure it is problematic or … not ?

Adam
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Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber with CCX , over MRA

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

I’m eager to find out if Jabber supports the phone agent….

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From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Holloway
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 1:32 PM
To: Pawlowski, Adam 
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber with CCX , over MRA

The UCCX 12.x SRND is telling us that an end point (like CSF or 8851) 
registered via MRA is supported as an Agent device.

It also tells us that the Agent's access to Finesse for sign-in/state changes 
is only available over VPN or direct internet access to Finesse.

However, if VPN is all you got, then Jabber over MRA is not necessary.  
Therefore, expose your Finesse to the internet (port usage guide) and have your 
cake and eat it too.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 11:57 AM Pawlowski, Adam 
mailto:aj...@buffalo.edu>> wrote:
Good afternoon all,

Just trying to get my notes together on the subject of using Jabber as an agent 
softphone, with UCCX (12) , over MRA. Recently saw some commentary that it is 
not supported, but, it’s not explicitly called out that I can tell.

The CCX SRND mentions that Expressway is supported “as an endpoint”, Jabber can 
be used, but doesn’t call any specific limitation to the two. This guide does 
say that Multiline is not supported which seemed to be new.

As far as I can tell it is working just fine to use with Finesse over MRA, the 
only thing I haven’t done yet is looked at traffic to see if it/CTI works 
because it can reach the UCM directly.

Anyone have any experience with trying to implement that, or, if they know for 
sure it is problematic or … not ?

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Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber with CCX , over MRA

[Anthony Holloway]

The UCCX 12.x SRND is telling us that an end point (like CSF or 8851)
registered via MRA is supported as an Agent device.

It also tells us that the Agent's access to Finesse for sign-in/state
changes is only available over VPN or direct internet access to Finesse.

However, if VPN is all you got, then Jabber over MRA is not necessary.
Therefore, expose your Finesse to the internet (port usage guide) and have
your cake and eat it too.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 11:57 AM Pawlowski, Adam  wrote:

> Good afternoon all,
>
>
>
> Just trying to get my notes together on the subject of using Jabber as an
> agent softphone, with UCCX (12) , over MRA. Recently saw some commentary
> that it is not supported, but, it’s not explicitly called out that I can
> tell.
>
>
>
> The CCX SRND mentions that Expressway is supported “as an endpoint”,
> Jabber can be used, but doesn’t call any specific limitation to the two.
> This guide does say that Multiline is not supported which seemed to be new.
>
>
>
> As far as I can tell it is working just fine to use with Finesse over MRA,
> the only thing I haven’t done yet is looked at traffic to see if it/CTI
> works because it can reach the UCM directly.
>
>
>
> Anyone have any experience with trying to implement that, or, if they know
> for sure it is problematic or … not ?
>
>
>
> Adam
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Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber with CCX , over MRA

[Charles Goldsmith]

A lot of good info here :
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cust_contact/contact_center/crs/express_12_0/design/guide/uccx_b_solution-design-guide-1201/uccx_b_solution-design-guide-1201_chapter_011.html#UCCX_RF_E796A578_00


>From the compatibility guide :
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cust_contact/contact_center/crs/express_compatibility/matrix/uccxcompat12_0_1.html#Endpoint_Devices
a
couple of footnotes with details:

(FN 3) For Home Agent with Extend and Connect, set Jabber to Extend Mode so
that the agents can select or edit the remote destination number.
(FN 7)  Cisco Jabber as an agent phone now supports Multiline (ACD and
non-ACD). This is applicable for versions 12.0 and above.

You have options :)




On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 12:12 PM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:

> Ok. From what I recall, it’s not that Jabber is not supported with CCX,
> but in fact, a common deployment model is not supported.
>
>
>
> I believe it has to do with the same primary extension enabled on more
> than one device, with the primary extension being the agent extension.
>
>
>
> In all my discussions, no one could tell me that if we were to choose to
> use Jabber on a desktop, on-prem, with multiple extensions (uccx primary,
> private secondary), that it wouldn’t work.
>
>
>
> The answer always came back, “but that’s not how we want to use it”.
>
>
>
> I’m eager to find out more about Jabber and CCX (and MRA).
>
>
>
> Lelio
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>
>
>
> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of 
> *Pawlowski,
> Adam
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 12:58 PM
> *To:* cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] Jabber with CCX , over MRA
>
>
>
> Good afternoon all,
>
>
>
> Just trying to get my notes together on the subject of using Jabber as an
> agent softphone, with UCCX (12) , over MRA. Recently saw some commentary
> that it is not supported, but, it’s not explicitly called out that I can
> tell.
>
>
>
> The CCX SRND mentions that Expressway is supported “as an endpoint”,
> Jabber can be used, but doesn’t call any specific limitation to the two.
> This guide does say that Multiline is not supported which seemed to be new.
>
>
>
> As far as I can tell it is working just fine to use with Finesse over MRA,
> the only thing I haven’t done yet is looked at traffic to see if it/CTI
> works because it can reach the UCM directly.
>
>
>
> Anyone have any experience with trying to implement that, or, if they know
> for sure it is problematic or … not ?
>
>
>
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Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber with CCX , over MRA

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

Ok. From what I recall, it's not that Jabber is not supported with CCX, but in 
fact, a common deployment model is not supported.

I believe it has to do with the same primary extension enabled on more than one 
device, with the primary extension being the agent extension.

In all my discussions, no one could tell me that if we were to choose to use 
Jabber on a desktop, on-prem, with multiple extensions (uccx primary, private 
secondary), that it wouldn't work.

The answer always came back, "but that's not how we want to use it".

I'm eager to find out more about Jabber and CCX (and MRA).

Lelio


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Adam
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 12:58 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Jabber with CCX , over MRA

Good afternoon all,

Just trying to get my notes together on the subject of using Jabber as an agent 
softphone, with UCCX (12) , over MRA. Recently saw some commentary that it is 
not supported, but, it's not explicitly called out that I can tell.

The CCX SRND mentions that Expressway is supported "as an endpoint", Jabber can 
be used, but doesn't call any specific limitation to the two. This guide does 
say that Multiline is not supported which seemed to be new.

As far as I can tell it is working just fine to use with Finesse over MRA, the 
only thing I haven't done yet is looked at traffic to see if it/CTI works 
because it can reach the UCM directly.

Anyone have any experience with trying to implement that, or, if they know for 
sure it is problematic or ... not ?

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Re: [cisco-voip] Bulk Admin and Jabber

[Pawlowski, Adam]

I wrote in Ruby, it is a CLI script that just takes a parameter for an input 
CSV.

One of my missions here over the next while is to “learn” Python and migrate 
tooling there. Ruby was pretty easy and I’ve built some library code for 
dealing with users, lines, and phones. Python can’t be too much different than 
Perl, PHP, VB, any of that, it’s not as bad as TCL so I’m sure I can figure it 
out.

We have a number of scripts here for various things that our team can run from 
a jumpbox, but, as my stack gets better I would like to build these things into 
a web front end.

I have a small XMPP interface for some of these functions as well which is 
pretty useful to get information gathered at a glance.



From: Anthony Holloway 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 3:58 PM
To: Pawlowski, Adam 
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Bulk Admin and Jabber

What programming language did you write it in, and is the interface GUI or CLI 
based?

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:04 PM Pawlowski, Adam 
mailto:aj...@buffalo.edu>> wrote:
Catching up on this one since this list stopped sending me daily digests but 
more like whenever it feels like it digests

We use the Quick User/Phone Add here and I put that into the procedures for the 
technicians since it can enforce some level of consistency. It’s not perfect by 
any means but for Jabber at least there is usually not too much farting around 
that needs to be done after the client is setup.

Two sore points for me on it are:


1)  It does not fill in the ASCII Display Name field when it adds line 
appearances. I have no idea why, but CTI applications like CER still use this 
so I have to go open each one and click on it to avoid dispatch getting calls 
from “_”.

2)  Product specific fields are still not available here. On desk sets 
that’s the wireless hookswitch control. On Jabber, that’s the Cisco Support 
Field. Unless something has changed recently, the BOT/TAB/TCT devices’ flavor 
of Cisco Support Field is NOT the same one as in the common phone profile.

I haven’t experimented to see if this works now, but it did not when we set all 
this up for Jabber. Our base jabber-config turns off everything but IM so 
anyone can just pop  open the client, then we change profile on the client to 
turn on the features or for hunt/pickup etc. I still have to touch this by hand 
for BOT, TAB, and TCT.


It is “quick” and it works for 98% of new additions, it’s useless for moving 
resources between people as it re-provisions everything, and when you’re 
building procedures for people so they can avoid hand made changes, it doesn’t 
quite get us there.

That being said I wrote a script to use AXL to bulk insert clients. I read a 
CSV with a userID, the client type, and the profile. I verify the user ID is in 
the system, insert the device, and then stack it on the association list. It 
really wasn’t that hard and comes a … well a bulk import tool I can hand off to 
the team. You can write product-specific configurations back with AXL, you just 
want to look at an example of how it is mashed together, and make sure you 
don’t break it. IIRC it’s a block of XML that comes out of the database, and I 
think this is one of those fields that when you set it back through AXL it gets 
written back exactly as you send it, so it is easy to clear settings.

Best of luck

Adam Pawlowski
SUNYAB
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[cisco-voip] Jabber with CCX , over MRA

[Pawlowski, Adam]

Good afternoon all,

Just trying to get my notes together on the subject of using Jabber as an agent 
softphone, with UCCX (12) , over MRA. Recently saw some commentary that it is 
not supported, but, it's not explicitly called out that I can tell.

The CCX SRND mentions that Expressway is supported "as an endpoint", Jabber can 
be used, but doesn't call any specific limitation to the two. This guide does 
say that Multiline is not supported which seemed to be new.

As far as I can tell it is working just fine to use with Finesse over MRA, the 
only thing I haven't done yet is looked at traffic to see if it/CTI works 
because it can reach the UCM directly.

Anyone have any experience with trying to implement that, or, if they know for 
sure it is problematic or ... not ?

Adam
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[cisco-voip] what was that other cisco equipment/software tracking webesite

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

So I've seen the MyDevices option but there was another website/tool that Cisco 
launched recently to help track equipment and contracts.

Can anyone remember it?

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