Re: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamscan .vs. clamdscan

2004-04-28 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 08:20:03 +1000
Bill Maidment [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My point is that if we could make the names of the processes more 
 distinguishable and match the conf files (if any) then we remove the 
 chance of error. For example clamscan could be renamed to scanclam
 (with NO scanclam.conf), clamdscan renamed as daemonclam (with 
 daemonclam.conf) or something like that.

No way.

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Re: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamscan .vs. clamdscan

2004-04-28 Thread Eric Wieling
On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 14:40, Stephen Gran wrote:
  What DOES read clamav.conf?
 
 clamd, clamdscan, and clamav-milter.  freshclam also looks at it to find
 out how to notify clamd if you have it set to notify clamd after updates.
 It _is_ in the various docs, you know :)

The RPM I'm using has a clamd.conf, freshclam.conf, and clamav.conf so I
must have assumed that the rest of the programs used clamav.conf, and
must have assumed that clamdscan and clamscan both read the same config
file.  Maybe it's because I use spamassassin and spamassassin and
spamc (the daemon client) try to act the same way and try to be
drop-in replacements for each other.  I just assumed that clamscan and
clamdscan tried to be drop in replacements for each other as well.

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Re: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamscan .vs. clamdscan

2004-04-27 Thread Dave Ewart
On Tuesday, 27.04.2004 at 09:38 -0400, Jim Maul wrote:

  Because clamscan doesnt use clamav.conf!!  S many people dont
  seem to realize this.
 
  Perhaps it should to avoid any confusion!
 
 Perhaps, but this is not my decision.

/etc/clamav.conf - /etc/clamd.conf ?

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Re: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamscan .vs. clamdscan

2004-04-27 Thread Matt


   Because clamscan doesnt use clamav.conf!!  S many people dont
   seem to realize this.
  
   Perhaps it should to avoid any confusion!
  
  Perhaps, but this is not my decision.
 
 /etc/clamav.conf - /etc/clamd.conf ?
 

 The whole purpose of clamscan is to be a command line config'ed scanner. Clamd
is a file config'ed scanner. Where is the hardship in that? It's not rocket
science. And it clearly states this in the documentation (if anybody reads it).
If you want clamscan to run with specific settings each time, create a shell
script to call it.

Matt



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RE: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamscan .vs. clamdscan

2004-04-27 Thread Jim Maul


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 On Tuesday, 27.04.2004 at 09:38 -0400, Jim Maul wrote:

   Because clamscan doesnt use clamav.conf!!  S many people dont
   seem to realize this.
  
   Perhaps it should to avoid any confusion!
 
  Perhaps, but this is not my decision.

 /etc/clamav.conf - /etc/clamd.conf ?


I made the suggestion to rename clamav.conf to clamd.conf many weeks ago.
But its just that...a suggestion.

Jim



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RE: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamscan .vs. clamdscan

2004-04-27 Thread Jim Maul


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Because clamscan doesnt use clamav.conf!!  S many people dont
seem to realize this.
   
Perhaps it should to avoid any confusion!
  
   Perhaps, but this is not my decision.
 
  /etc/clamav.conf - /etc/clamd.conf ?
 

  The whole purpose of clamscan is to be a command line config'ed
 scanner. Clamd
 is a file config'ed scanner. Where is the hardship in that? It's
 not rocket
 science. And it clearly states this in the documentation (if
 anybody reads it).
 If you want clamscan to run with specific settings each time,
 create a shell
 script to call it.


Exactly.  I never said clamscan should use clamav.conf.  I simply stated
that since clamd/clamdscan (and optionally freshclam as well) are the only
programs to use clamav.conf, perhaps it would avoid some confusion if it
were to be called clamd.conf.

Jim



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Re: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamscan .vs. clamdscan

2004-04-27 Thread Joe Maimon


Jim Maul wrote:

 


Exactly.  I never said clamscan should use clamav.conf.  I simply stated
that since clamd/clamdscan (and optionally freshclam as well) are the only
programs to use clamav.conf, 

 

clamav-milter references it as well.

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Re: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamscan .vs. clamdscan

2004-04-27 Thread Matt

 
 
 Exactly.  I never said clamscan should use clamav.conf.  I simply stated
 that since clamd/clamdscan (and optionally freshclam as well) are the only
 programs to use clamav.conf, perhaps it would avoid some confusion if it
 were to be called clamd.conf.
 
 Jim

Hello again,

 My previous reply (not aimed at anyone in particular, might I add), was merely
trying to point out, that no matter what the config file is called, people will
still ask the same questions regarding why clamscan isn't doing this or that,
for the pure and simple reason that they didn't fully read the docs or manpages.
 Apologies if my earlier post seemed a bit offhand.

All the best,

Matt



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Re: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamscan .vs. clamdscan

2004-04-27 Thread Bill Maidment
Jim Maul wrote:

 

Because clamscan doesnt use clamav.conf!!  S many people dont
seem to realize this.
   

Perhaps it should to avoid any confusion!
 

Perhaps, but this is not my decision.
   

/etc/clamav.conf - /etc/clamd.conf ?

 

The whole purpose of clamscan is to be a command line config'ed
scanner. Clamd
is a file config'ed scanner. Where is the hardship in that? It's
not rocket
science. And it clearly states this in the documentation (if
anybody reads it).
If you want clamscan to run with specific settings each time,
create a shell
script to call it.
   

Exactly.  I never said clamscan should use clamav.conf.  I simply stated
that since clamd/clamdscan (and optionally freshclam as well) are the only
programs to use clamav.conf, perhaps it would avoid some confusion if it
were to be called clamd.conf.
Jim

 

The problem arises because we users are lazy and our lazy eyes can't 
differential between clamscan and clamdscan and clamd. The names are all 
too similar!  Now freshclam is a reasonably different name and we don't 
get freshclam.conf confused with clamav.conf (even though they can be 
merged).

My point is that if we could make the names of the processes more 
distinguishable and match the conf files (if any) then we remove the 
chance of error. For example clamscan could be renamed to scanclam (with 
NO scanclam.conf), clamdscan renamed as daemonclam (with 
daemonclam.conf) or something like that.

Just my thoughts, but anyway the product is absolutely fantastic and 
streets ahead of the competition. Keep up the good work.

Bill



Re: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamscan .vs. clamdscan

2004-04-23 Thread Stephen Gran
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 01:00:43PM -0500, Eric Wieling said:
 I'm having a problem where clamscan does not detect an encrypted .zip
 file, but clamdscan does.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# /usr/bin/clamdscan --tempdir=/tmp -r -i bob.zip
 /tmp/bob.zip: Encrypted.Zip FOUND
 --- SCAN SUMMARY ---
 Infected files: 1
 Time: 0.002 sec (0 m 0 s)
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# /usr/bin/clamscan --tempdir=/tmp -r -i bob.zip
 --- SCAN SUMMARY ---
 Known viruses: 21192
 Scanned directories: 0
 Scanned files: 1
 Infected files: 0
 Data scanned: 0.00 MB
 I/O buffer size: 131072 bytes
 Time: 3.306 sec (0 m 3 s)

use /usr/bin/clamscan --tempdir=/tmp -r -i --block-encrypted bob.zip

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Re: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamscan .vs. clamdscan

2004-04-23 Thread Eric Wieling
On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 08:40, Stephen Gran wrote:
 use /usr/bin/clamscan --tempdir=/tmp -r -i --block-encrypted bob.zip

Any idea why the config file setting to enable blocking encrypted files
is not working?

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Re: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamscan .vs. clamdscan

2004-04-23 Thread Robert Blayzor
Eric Wieling wrote:

On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 08:40, Stephen Gran wrote:

use /usr/bin/clamscan --tempdir=/tmp -r -i --block-encrypted bob.zip


Any idea why the config file setting to enable blocking encrypted files
is not working?
I may be wrong in my thinking but clamdscan and clamscan are not really 
the same thing.  What you have in clamav.conf is really just for 
clamd/clamdscan.  (the options anyway).  All of the options need to be 
specified on the clamscan command line.  ie: --mbox, etc.  I'm not 
even sure clamav.conf is even consulted by clamscan.

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Re: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamscan .vs. clamdscan

2004-04-23 Thread Stephen Gran
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 12:23:31PM -0500, Eric Wieling said:
 On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 10:47, Stephen Gran wrote:
  On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 09:26:04AM -0500, Eric Wieling said:
   On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 08:40, Stephen Gran wrote:
use /usr/bin/clamscan --tempdir=/tmp -r -i --block-encrypted bob.zip
   
   Any idea why the config file setting to enable blocking encrypted files
   is not working?
  
  Because clamscan doesn't read clamav.conf.
 
 What DOES read clamav.conf?

clamd, clamdscan, and clamav-milter.  freshclam also looks at it to find
out how to notify clamd if you have it set to notify clamd after updates.
It _is_ in the various docs, you know :)

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