Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2015-03-31 Thread G.W. Haywood

Hi there,

On Tue, 31 Mar 2015, Torge Husfeldt wrote:


I had to emergency-disable archive-scanning more than a month ago and
still have no solution.


Is there some reason that you can't compile ClamAV yourself?

For a number of packages I prefer to do that rather than use the
configurations supplied by Debian.


Looks like, if I want to continue to protect ~10M domains in Shared
Hosting using clamav I will have to ask my employer to provide a
debian-lts-maintainer for it ...


I hardly think that's necessary, but as presumably your employer
operates for a profit, perhaps that entity would consider supporting
Open Source in some way.  Of course that wouldn't make it any more
likely that I'd accept mail from its servers. :)

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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2015-03-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, March 30, 2015 06:37:52 PM Torge Husfeldt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> sorry to warm up this _really_old_ topic.
> 
> Am 11.02.2014 um 17:23 schrieb Jim Popovitch:
> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Andrew Kelly  wrote:
> >> Nearly mid February 2014 now. 0.98.1 has been available for a
> >> month already, and Debian is still stuck at 0.97.8.
> 
> And one more year and one more security-related fix later still no solution.
> > Welcome to Debian. ;-)  If you want bleeding edge, don't use Debian
> > Stable (use Debian Testing)
> 
> In this light, it looks like "LTS" is a joke, too.
> 
> I had to emergency-disable archive-scanning more than a month ago and
> still have no solution.
> Looks like, if I want to continue to protect ~10M domains in Shared
> Hosting using clamav I will have to ask my employer to provide a
> debian-lts-maintainer for it ...

The Debian LTS is mostly managed by a small subset of Debian people that have 
decided to focus on it.  They have published clamav updates, but are no doubt 
looking for help.  See https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Development .

For releases supported by the Debian project, here's what's available right 
now:

 clamav | 0.98.5+dfsg-0+deb7u2 | wheezy 
 clamav | 0.98.6+dfsg-0+deb7u1 | wheezy-p-u 
clamav | 0.98.6+dfsg-0+deb7u1 | wheezy-updates
 clamav | 0.98.6+dfsg-1| jessie  
 clamav | 0.98.6+dfsg-1| sid

(for those not up to speed on Debian specifics, what that means is the most 
current clamav release is available for all supported Debian releases)

Scott K
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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2015-03-30 Thread Torge Husfeldt
Hi,

sorry to warm up this _really_old_ topic.

Am 11.02.2014 um 17:23 schrieb Jim Popovitch:
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Andrew Kelly  wrote:
>>
>> Nearly mid February 2014 now. 0.98.1 has been available for a
>> month already, and Debian is still stuck at 0.97.8.

And one more year and one more security-related fix later still no solution.

> 
> Welcome to Debian. ;-)  If you want bleeding edge, don't use Debian
> Stable (use Debian Testing)

In this light, it looks like "LTS" is a joke, too.

I had to emergency-disable archive-scanning more than a month ago and
still have no solution.
Looks like, if I want to continue to protect ~10M domains in Shared
Hosting using clamav I will have to ask my employer to provide a
debian-lts-maintainer for it ...

> 
>> Is there any kind of formal statement from the package maintainer,
>> or is this simply an orphaned project?
> 
> The Debian ClamAV Team *is* working on testing/packaging.  The process
> generally involves first solving Debian specific issues, as they
> relate to ClamAV, in Debian Unstable and Testing.
> 
> You can see that 0.98.1 is already in Testing and UnStable here:
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/clamav.html
> 
> On that page, you can view "todo" at the top middle to see the current
> outstanding build/packaging issues.
> 
> hth,
> 
> -Jim P.
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Sorry for my rambling.

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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2014-02-12 Thread Andrew Kelly
Tried to spare the list another thank you, but I wasn't
able to mail you directly.
Sorry list.



Dennis,

in light of the value you've explicitly placed upon your
time, thank you once again for all the explanation and
for your efforts. 

Very much appreciated.



>> dp - Unix wonk since 1980

Nice. Can't claim anything pre 90's, myself.

Andy


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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2014-02-12 Thread Dennis Peterson

On 2/12/14, 6:29 AM, Andrew Kelly wrote:

On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 21:28 -0800, Dennis Peterson wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:06 AM, Andrew Kelly wrote:


So. 



So. Andy - You do know that this is the wrong list for complaints about
Debian support, right? You might have better luck here:



Thanks for the guidance, Dennis, much appreciated.

I'm curious, though... I've seen half a dozen or more threads
in the last few weeks that have precious little to do with
the core business of this list. Why is it that you picked my
mail (very much on topic in an existent thread, by the way)
to play hall monitor?
Is it just because you're seeing my name for the first time,
or have you just not been reading everything posted to this
list?

At any rate, I'm running a farm of "stable" and "old-stable"
deployments, the dep nightmare of pulling something from testing
isn't really going to serve my customer base very well. And
the 20 minutes.. well, were it that painless I'm sure half a
dozen daily readers of this list would have already back-ported
things months and months ago.

Hope I haven't upset you, that's really not what I intended,
and as I said, I'm quite grateful for your response.

Andy



I'm not upset - I'm retired. Time is important to me because there's just not as 
much left as there once was. In fact there never was, so I do what I can to 
manage time better. That means I don't wait for support people to do for me what 
I can do for myself. I've always built ClamAV from source in every environment 
I've installed it. Sometimes that is just "configure;make;make install", 
sometimes it is by editing a spec file and building the RPM.


When I'm done it is fully integrated with my OS versions, file system layout, 
mailer, milters, logger, log rotator, startup scripts, and password/group files. 
It is a reliable and repeatable process.


Educating, or informing you is not at all the same thing as picking on you. I've 
not picked on you at all, of course. I may not have educated you, either, but 
not from a lack of trying. In the case of the Debian package availability I'm 
helping you save time. Nobody here is responsible for Debian packages. ClamAV is 
a Cisco company. Debian is an SPI company. They can help you or at least inform 
you regarding deployment schedules. Anything you get here is going to be second 
hand.


Secondly, by advising you that you, yes you, can build these packages to get you 
through a crisis is good advice. I'll get to what is a crisis shortly. Here's 
the page you need to see to build Debian packages - read the first section 
carefully: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html


Here's a piece of it:

--
1.1. Social dynamics of Debian

Here are some observations of Debian's social dynamics, presented in the hope 
that it will prepare you for interactions with Debian.


We all are volunteers.
You cannot impose on others what to do.
You should be motivated to do things by yourself.
---

You inherit that when you choose Debian. So why would you want to have this 
skill? Because sometimes there is a crisis and you should be able to deal with 
it in a timely, disciplined manner. I will tell you though that the change from 
9.8 to 9.8.1 is definitely not a crisis and it is hoped that some sense of 
perspective will be imparted. That being there's no hurry. Read the Changelog 
before going into crisis mode. If there really is a crisis it is your 
responsibility to manage it. The volunteers will likely up the priority to get 
the build ready because they likely are also customers. But never forget they 
are volunteers and are not responsible for solving your crisis.


More links:
http://packages.debian.org/stable/clamav
  This will show you who your volunteers are and even how to get in touch with 
them.


http://packages.debian.org/stable/allpackages
  This is the list of stable packages you can use today

http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
  This is the top of the package tree where you can find everything you need to 
know about Debian packages.


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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2014-02-12 Thread Simon Hobson
Greg Folkert  wrote:

> Debian Stable is that. If you must have 0.98.1, you should also be using
> "backports"... at least I used to until I just used Sid for everything.
> Backports help extend Stable's longevity and "freshness" a bit... but it
> is no guarantee 0.98.1 will be there.

Actually it should filter down once it's gone through some testing. "Stable" 
means different things to different packages - and AFAIK policy hasn't changed 
much in terms of updating "volatile" security related packages like ClamAV.



Matthew Newton  wrote:

> Debian's policy is to ensure that stable means stable - so they
> only generally apply security patches. There was a "volatile"
> repository once as they realised that software like ClamAV needs
> updating more but conflicted with normal policy; it looks like
> it's been replaced, but I don't know if they still maintain the
> ClamAV package there.

It is still there, just under a different name - should be covered by the 
/updates (eg wheezy/updates) source.
http://www.debian.org/security/


As for installing the update, as pointed out there are several options. If you 
have wheezy/updates in your apt-sources list then it should appear (eventually) 
after passing through Debian's quality processes.

If you want it sooner, then pull it from testing - something I've done with a 
few packages from time to time. I've found that mostly things are "fairly 
reliable" by the time they reach testing - but it's worth a scan of the bugs 
list first.

Or if you want bleeding edge - either install from upstream source, or install 
from unstable. Unstable can be, well, unstable - so you roll your dice and take 
your chances.


Personally, I try to avoid installing from source. Not because I can't do it (I 
have done it when I've had no option), but I have to consider maintainability - 
especially if I've moved on and the system gets inherited by someone with 
"limited" Linux/FOSS skills. YMMV - what you do on a home system (only you to 
consider) or in an environment where there are plenty of experienced Linux/FOSS 
admins is one thing; what you do when there's no such people around is another.

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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2014-02-12 Thread Matthew Newton
Hi Andy,

On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 03:29:28PM +0100, Andrew Kelly wrote:
> At any rate, I'm running a farm of "stable" and "old-stable"
> deployments, the dep nightmare of pulling something from testing
> isn't really going to serve my customer base very well. And
> the 20 minutes.. well, were it that painless I'm sure half a
> dozen daily readers of this list would have already back-ported 
> things months and months ago.

Yeah, we did :-p

We run Debian stable for our mail systems. I just build local
packages for the volatile stuff like ClamAV and SpamAssassin. I
guess I have to rebuild twice a year or so, and it's pretty
trivial when you've done it once - copy the debian/ directory
over, update the changelog and rebuild. There are very
occasionally a few things that need tweaking to get it to build
with the new version.

Debian's policy is to ensure that stable means stable - so they
only generally apply security patches. There was a "volatile"
repository once as they realised that software like ClamAV needs
updating more but conflicted with normal policy; it looks like
it's been replaced, but I don't know if they still maintain the
ClamAV package there.

Cheers,

Matthew


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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2014-02-12 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 15:29 +0100, Andrew Kelly wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 21:28 -0800, Dennis Peterson wrote:
> > On 2/11/14, 8:06 AM, Andrew Kelly wrote:
> > 
> > > So. 
> 
> > So. Andy - You do know that this is the wrong list for complaints about 
> > Debian support, right? You might have better luck here: 
> 
> 
> Thanks for the guidance, Dennis, much appreciated.
> 
> I'm curious, though... I've seen half a dozen or more threads
> in the last few weeks that have precious little to do with
> the core business of this list. Why is it that you picked my
> mail (very much on topic in an existent thread, by the way)
> to play hall monitor?
> Is it just because you're seeing my name for the first time,
> or have you just not been reading everything posted to this
> list?
> 
> At any rate, I'm running a farm of "stable" and "old-stable"
> deployments, the dep nightmare of pulling something from testing
> isn't really going to serve my customer base very well. And
> the 20 minutes.. well, were it that painless I'm sure half a
> dozen daily readers of this list would have already back-ported 
> things months and months ago.
> 
> Hope I haven't upset you, that's really not what I intended, 
> and as I said, I'm quite grateful for your response.
> 
> Andy

The reason he pointed it out and "picked" on it... it is a resolved
issue with regards to this list. The Debian Maintainer has release
0.98.1 into Sid and Testing.

This Bug is closed.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727027

Debian Stable is that. If you must have 0.98.1, you should also be using
"backports"... at least I used to until I just used Sid for everything.
Backports help extend Stable's longevity and "freshness" a bit... but it
is no guarantee 0.98.1 will be there.

This thread you happen to pickup on, was indeed resolved by the upload
to incoming for Sid of 0.98.1... dunno there isn't much more to say than
you need to light a fire under the Debian side of things to get it into
stable.
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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2014-02-12 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 21:28 -0800, Dennis Peterson wrote:
> On 2/11/14, 8:06 AM, Andrew Kelly wrote:
> 
> > So. 

> So. Andy - You do know that this is the wrong list for complaints about 
> Debian support, right? You might have better luck here: 


Thanks for the guidance, Dennis, much appreciated.

I'm curious, though... I've seen half a dozen or more threads
in the last few weeks that have precious little to do with
the core business of this list. Why is it that you picked my
mail (very much on topic in an existent thread, by the way)
to play hall monitor?
Is it just because you're seeing my name for the first time,
or have you just not been reading everything posted to this
list?

At any rate, I'm running a farm of "stable" and "old-stable"
deployments, the dep nightmare of pulling something from testing
isn't really going to serve my customer base very well. And
the 20 minutes.. well, were it that painless I'm sure half a
dozen daily readers of this list would have already back-ported 
things months and months ago.

Hope I haven't upset you, that's really not what I intended, 
and as I said, I'm quite grateful for your response.

Andy

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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2014-02-11 Thread Dennis Peterson

On 2/11/14, 8:06 AM, Andrew Kelly wrote:


So. 

Nearly mid February 2014 now. 0.98.1 has been available for a
month already, and Debian is still stuck at 0.97.8.
Is there any kind of formal statement from the package maintainer,
or is this simply an orphaned project?

Andy


So. Andy - You do know that this is the wrong list for complaints about 
Debian support, right? You might have better luck here: 
http://www.debian.org/support#maintainers but the easiest way to get new 
packages early is to be a package maintainer even if you are the only customer. 
It is less than 20 minutes work to build a package from source. A little longer 
than that to learn how, but the ability to do so pays off.


dp

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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2014-02-11 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Andrew Kelly  wrote:
>
> Nearly mid February 2014 now. 0.98.1 has been available for a
> month already, and Debian is still stuck at 0.97.8.

Welcome to Debian. ;-)  If you want bleeding edge, don't use Debian
Stable (use Debian Testing)

> Is there any kind of formal statement from the package maintainer,
> or is this simply an orphaned project?

The Debian ClamAV Team *is* working on testing/packaging.  The process
generally involves first solving Debian specific issues, as they
relate to ClamAV, in Debian Unstable and Testing.

You can see that 0.98.1 is already in Testing and UnStable here:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/clamav.html

On that page, you can view "todo" at the top middle to see the current
outstanding build/packaging issues.

hth,

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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2014-02-11 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Wed, 2014-01-08 at 10:55 -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-12-16 at 10:22 +, Simon Hobson wrote:
> > Does anyone know what the situation is with Debian packages ?
> > It's been something like 2 months now and 0.98 still doesn't appear to have 
> > made it to unstable, let alone testing.
> > 
> > I'm assuming this also affects Debian derived distros like Mint and Ubuntu.
> 
> I've also submitted "extra information" to this bug.
> 
> I see that there was some update last month, after this post. Scott
> Kitterman apparently is unable to fix a patching problem for use with
> Debian. http://kitterman.com/debian/ look at the "last_operation.log"
> 
> No progress since Nov 15th, 2013. I'm disappointed. Richard Cognot
> offered some advice from the evidence in the log.
> 
> Hoping we can get some more traction. Perhaps, I'll re-subscribe to
> Debian-Devel and make a bit of an inquiry/noise on the package there...
> or the dreaded Debian-User.

So. 

Nearly mid February 2014 now. 0.98.1 has been available for a
month already, and Debian is still stuck at 0.97.8. 
Is there any kind of formal statement from the package maintainer,
or is this simply an orphaned project?

Andy


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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2014-01-08 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2013-12-16 at 10:22 +, Simon Hobson wrote:
> Does anyone know what the situation is with Debian packages ?
> It's been something like 2 months now and 0.98 still doesn't appear to have 
> made it to unstable, let alone testing.
> 
> I'm assuming this also affects Debian derived distros like Mint and Ubuntu.

I've also submitted "extra information" to this bug.

I see that there was some update last month, after this post. Scott
Kitterman apparently is unable to fix a patching problem for use with
Debian. http://kitterman.com/debian/ look at the "last_operation.log"

No progress since Nov 15th, 2013. I'm disappointed. Richard Cognot
offered some advice from the evidence in the log.

Hoping we can get some more traction. Perhaps, I'll re-subscribe to
Debian-Devel and make a bit of an inquiry/noise on the package there...
or the dreaded Debian-User.
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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2013-12-24 Thread Henri Salo
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 03:11:47AM +, Joel Esler (jesler) wrote:
> 
> > On Dec 17, 2013, at 5:28, "Simon Hobson"  wrote:
> > 
> > Well since no-one's come back with something like "the package maintainer's 
> > gone AWOL" or similar, I'll keep bumping that bug ticket. Does seem 
> > strange, I don't recall such a long delay in the past.
> > Updating from source isn't really an option since I need to leave these 
> > systems maintainable by people who need the simplicity of "apt-get upgrade".
> 
> 
> I haven't had any contact with the package maintainer.  That doesn't mean a 
> thing though.  I haven't went through and collected the names of the package 
> maintainers like I did for our other projects here at Sourcefire.  
> 
> I'll out that on my to do list. 
> 
> In fact, if you want to help me out, if you are a package maintainer for 
> ClamAV, write me an email off list, and I'll start collecting the names. 
> 
> Joel

I'm not a Debian Developer nor current maintainer, but I would be happy to help
maintaining ClamAV packages. Please contact me off list if my help is needed.

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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2013-12-23 Thread Joel Esler (jesler)

> On Dec 17, 2013, at 5:28, "Simon Hobson"  wrote:
> 
> Well since no-one's come back with something like "the package maintainer's 
> gone AWOL" or similar, I'll keep bumping that bug ticket. Does seem strange, 
> I don't recall such a long delay in the past.
> Updating from source isn't really an option since I need to leave these 
> systems maintainable by people who need the simplicity of "apt-get upgrade".


I haven't had any contact with the package maintainer.  That doesn't mean a 
thing though.  I haven't went through and collected the names of the package 
maintainers like I did for our other projects here at Sourcefire.  

I'll out that on my to do list. 

In fact, if you want to help me out, if you are a package maintainer for 
ClamAV, write me an email off list, and I'll start collecting the names. 

Joel
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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2013-12-17 Thread Simon Hobson
Greg Folkert wrote:
>Simon, 
>Why not open a Bug, or look to see if there is one. Oh wait:
>In Pending Upload bugs for 
>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727027
>
>Just gotta look. Rending since Oct 2013

Yes indeed.

>And lookit that, some "Simon Hobson" 
>
>Commented on it Fri, 15 Nov 2013 9:54:48 +.

And look what a positive response it's had so far !

>Make noise on the list or continue to bomb the bug(s)... This place
>ain't gonna be helpful in this regard.

Well since no-one's come back with something like "the package maintainer's 
gone AWOL" or similar, I'll keep bumping that bug ticket. Does seem strange, I 
don't recall such a long delay in the past.
Updating from source isn't really an option since I need to leave these systems 
maintainable by people who need the simplicity of "apt-get upgrade".
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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2013-12-16 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2013-12-16 at 21:03 +0700, k...@crypto.my.id wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:51:16 -0500
> Greg Folkert  wrote:
> 
> > Koko
> > Ubuntu is not Debian. Most packages that are "Daemon"
> > are failing to work because of "upstart"... and library
> > differences.
> > 
> sorry for the noise.. alternative build from source.

Wasn't a reprimand, just a clarification.
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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2013-12-16 Thread koko
On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:51:16 -0500
Greg Folkert  wrote:

> Koko
> Ubuntu is not Debian. Most packages that are "Daemon"
> are failing to work because of "upstart"... and library
> differences.
> 
sorry for the noise.. alternative build from source.
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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2013-12-16 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2013-12-16 at 18:05 +0700, k...@crypto.my.id wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 10:22:25 +
> "Simon Hobson"   wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know what the situation is with Debian packages ?
> > It's been something like 2 months now and 0.98 still doesn't appear to have 
> > made it to unstable, let alone testing.
> > 
> > I'm assuming this also affects Debian derived distros like Mint and Ubuntu.
> > 
> for ubuntu available here:

Koko
Ubuntu is not Debian. Most packages that are "Daemon" are failing to
work because of "upstart"... and library differences.

Now many debian packages can go into Ubuntu... just not lightly that
other way.

Simon, 
Why not open a Bug, or look to see if there is one. Oh wait:
In Pending Upload bugs for 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727027

Just gotta look. Rending since Oct 2013

And lookit that, some "Simon Hobson" 

Commented on it Fri, 15 Nov 2013 9:54:48 +.

Make noise on the list or continue to bomb the bug(s)... This place
ain't gonna be helpful in this regard.
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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2013-12-16 Thread G.W. Haywood

Hi there,

On Mon, 16 Dec 2013, Simon Hobson wrote:


Does anyone know what the situation is with Debian packages ?


http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-clamav-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org

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Re: [clamav-users] Debian packaging

2013-12-16 Thread koko
On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 10:22:25 +
"Simon Hobson"   wrote:

> Does anyone know what the situation is with Debian packages ?
> It's been something like 2 months now and 0.98 still doesn't appear to have 
> made it to unstable, let alone testing.
> 
> I'm assuming this also affects Debian derived distros like Mint and Ubuntu.
> 
for ubuntu available here:

https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clamav/+archive/ppa
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ClamAV

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[clamav-users] Debian packaging

2013-12-16 Thread Simon Hobson
Does anyone know what the situation is with Debian packages ?
It's been something like 2 months now and 0.98 still doesn't appear to have 
made it to unstable, let alone testing.

I'm assuming this also affects Debian derived distros like Mint and Ubuntu.
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