Re: Anyone pondering HotSpot+Classpath?

2006-11-14 Thread Robert Lougher

Of course, the reverse is also possible, i.e. open source runtimes
working with the JDK class libraries.  This doesn't even need the
release of the class-library source to happen.  The HotSpot source
reveals all that is needed to implement the interface.


From brief looking at the interface, I would say it would be easier

for an open-source runtime to use the JDK class library than for
Classpath to use HotSpot.  In particular, reflection handling seems to
be largely done outside the VM.

Rob.

On 11/14/06, Sven de Marothy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yup, I've been pondering that since they announced their plans.

I'd even suggested to Webmink that I'd like to see Hotspot released
early for that reason. I wouldn't take credit for the fact - but it
seems I got what I asked for. (In fact it seems it's playing out such
that I'm getting exactly what I asked for :))

Anyway, yes, I think we defininitely want to get CP working with HotSpot
as soon as possible. I also think that we should move to make our VM
interfaces compatible as soon as possible. That is, unless it turns out
that their VM interface is absolutely horrible. (Or we could chose to
support both)

/Sven







Re: Anyone pondering HotSpot+Classpath?

2006-11-13 Thread Sven de Marothy
Yup, I've been pondering that since they announced their plans.

I'd even suggested to Webmink that I'd like to see Hotspot released
early for that reason. I wouldn't take credit for the fact - but it
seems I got what I asked for. (In fact it seems it's playing out such
that I'm getting exactly what I asked for :)) 

Anyway, yes, I think we defininitely want to get CP working with HotSpot
as soon as possible. I also think that we should move to make our VM
interfaces compatible as soon as possible. That is, unless it turns out
that their VM interface is absolutely horrible. (Or we could chose to
support both)

/Sven




Re: Anyone pondering HotSpot+Classpath?

2006-11-13 Thread Andrew John Hughes
Yeah, that was my first thought too... would be interesting to see  
javac using Classpath, if just for sheer irony...

--
Andrew :)


On 13 Nov 2006, at 16:26, Stuart Ballard wrote:


It looks like it's *already* possible to download the GPL source code
for Sun's HotSpot VM[1]. But of course that's of limited use until
they also release their class libraries.

But funnily enough there just happens to be a Free set of class
libraries lying around ;)

I know that I can't possibly be the only person thinking it. But I do
know I'm not even close to having the expertise or the time to
research what it would actually take to implement the Classpath VM
interface on top of HotSpot. I'm just curious as to whether anyone who
*does* have the expertise and time is planning to take a serious look
at this...

Stuart.

[1] Can I just take a moment to add "WOW" at this point?
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Anyone pondering HotSpot+Classpath?

2006-11-13 Thread Stuart Ballard

It looks like it's *already* possible to download the GPL source code
for Sun's HotSpot VM[1]. But of course that's of limited use until
they also release their class libraries.

But funnily enough there just happens to be a Free set of class
libraries lying around ;)

I know that I can't possibly be the only person thinking it. But I do
know I'm not even close to having the expertise or the time to
research what it would actually take to implement the Classpath VM
interface on top of HotSpot. I'm just curious as to whether anyone who
*does* have the expertise and time is planning to take a serious look
at this...

Stuart.

[1] Can I just take a moment to add "WOW" at this point?
--
http://sab39.netreach.com/