Re: Open Source Projects for Beg/ Intermediate
So, questions to Carin, Alex and Alan (and Ulises): What interests you? What problems do you have that you'd like solutions for? Knowing that, folks might be able to point you at existing projects to take part in (or might confirm no such project exists and they'd be interested in collaborating with you)... I've started doing exactly what you did: double coding at work. And that has kept me going for a while. Just as you said, because I didn't have to learn 2 things (the domain and the language) I could concentrate on one (the language) and hence made progress much faster. As for interests, mine are too varied to say and this is exactly what has stopped me in the past from doing anything at all (as I like everything). I still think that trying to scratch your current itch is the best thing to get you going at least for a while. U -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Open Source Projects for Beg/ Intermediate
First, much thanks to everyone for the feedback and suggestions. It really helps. One of my interests is sharing my enthusiasm for Clojure by exposing it in an accessible, educational and fun way to developers. From this standpoint, the 4clojure project is very interesting to me. Clojars makes everyone's life easier, so of course that is of interest too. Other areas that I have an interest in right now is the Semantic Web. There is a vast amount of data out there out on dbPedia. Tapping into it and integrating to other sites/ services (like twitter) would be quite exciting. On Apr 16, 6:36 pm, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Carin Meier gigasq...@yahoo.com wrote: I have fallen for Clojure. I would love to be able to practice and hone my skills while contributing something to an open source project. Do you have any suggestions for projects that might have some low-hanging fruit for a newish person like me. Any floors that need sweeping? When I started with Clojure, I mostly focused on solving problems in Clojure that cropped up in my day job (not using Clojure) so I was essentially double developing a lot of things. That kept working in a domain I knew, knowing how to solve those problems in language X and then figuring out how to solve them elegantly in Clojure. Some times I'd ask on the #clojure IRC channel on freenode for input - folks are extremely helpful and the feedback was very valuable (and continues to be!). I think the advice to find - or create - a project that interests you and solves a problem you have is good advice. You need to know the domain so that you're not trying to learn two languages at once (the idioms of the domain language and the idioms of the programming language). So, questions to Carin, Alex and Alan (and Ulises): What interests you? What problems do you have that you'd like solutions for? Knowing that, folks might be able to point you at existing projects to take part in (or might confirm no such project exists and they'd be interested in collaborating with you)... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View --http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. --http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. --http://www.getrailo.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Open Source Projects for Beg/ Intermediate
I would second this. On Apr 16, 8:43 pm, Sam Aaron samaa...@gmail.com wrote: It feels to me that in addition to asking which open source projects would be useful/beneficial for novices to hack on, it would be useful to have a list of open source projects that are useful/beneficial for novices to read and understand. One thing that Clojure has taught me is that code reading is both possible and highly valuable. I think that having a list of approachable and idiomatic code bases would be a beneficial asset to our community. Sam ---http://sam.aaron.name On 15 Apr 2011, at 02:47, Carin Meier wrote: I have fallen for Clojure. I would love to be able to practice and hone my skills while contributing something to an open source project. Do you have any suggestions for projects that might have some low-hanging fruit for a newish person like me. Any floors that need sweeping? Carin Meier @carinmeier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Open Source Projects for Beg/ Intermediate
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Carin Meier gigasq...@yahoo.com wrote: Other areas that I have an interest in right now is the Semantic Web. There is a vast amount of data out there out on dbPedia. Tapping into it and integrating to other sites/ services (like twitter) would be quite exciting. Check out clj-plaza for Semantic Web with clojure. https://github.com/antoniogarrote/clj-plaza The developer has moved on to other things but there are still improvements to be made. You might want to fork it and try and fix some of the bugs. Great way to learn the library. Or it could be a bit of a jump, but either way clj-plaza is a great library. Ambrose On Apr 16, 6:36 pm, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Carin Meier gigasq...@yahoo.com wrote: I have fallen for Clojure. I would love to be able to practice and hone my skills while contributing something to an open source project. Do you have any suggestions for projects that might have some low-hanging fruit for a newish person like me. Any floors that need sweeping? When I started with Clojure, I mostly focused on solving problems in Clojure that cropped up in my day job (not using Clojure) so I was essentially double developing a lot of things. That kept working in a domain I knew, knowing how to solve those problems in language X and then figuring out how to solve them elegantly in Clojure. Some times I'd ask on the #clojure IRC channel on freenode for input - folks are extremely helpful and the feedback was very valuable (and continues to be!). I think the advice to find - or create - a project that interests you and solves a problem you have is good advice. You need to know the domain so that you're not trying to learn two languages at once (the idioms of the domain language and the idioms of the programming language). So, questions to Carin, Alex and Alan (and Ulises): What interests you? What problems do you have that you'd like solutions for? Knowing that, folks might be able to point you at existing projects to take part in (or might confirm no such project exists and they'd be interested in collaborating with you)... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View --http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. --http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. --http://www.getrailo.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Open Source Projects for Beg/ Intermediate
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Ulises ulises.cerv...@gmail.com wrote: I've started doing exactly what you did: double coding at work. And that has kept me going for a while. Just as you said, because I didn't have to learn 2 things (the domain and the language) I could concentrate on one (the language) and hence made progress much faster. That's great to hear. I wasn't sure how many folks try that approach. As for interests, mine are too varied to say and this is exactly what has stopped me in the past from doing anything at all (as I like everything). My interests are things I've never been inclined to program solutions around in any languages because, well, they don't really lend themselves to programming... So I sympathize on that point! -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Open Source Projects for Beg/ Intermediate
On Apr 16, 5:43 pm, Sam Aaron samaa...@gmail.com wrote: It feels to me that in addition to asking which open source projects would be useful/beneficial for novices to hack on, it would be useful to have a list of open source projects that are useful/beneficial for novices to read and understand. Possibly maintainers of projects are reluctant to suggest their own projects because it would sound self-congratulatory. So I'll start by doing the opposite: don't read the swank-clojure code; it is pretty messy and not idiomatic since it's a fairly literal port from Common Lisp. I would say that Radagast and Robert Hooke might be fun to read for a better understanding about how alter-var-root and metadata work. They are both very, short, (~ 1 page) but juicy: https://github.com/Seajure/radagast and https://github.com/technomancy/robert-hooke -Phil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Open Source Projects for Beg/ Intermediate
Not long ago I was faced with the same dilemma: I am learning clojure and to practise and improve my skills I'd like to contribute to an open source project. Which one should I pick? And then I came across this: http://prog21.dadgum.com/80.html Enjoy :) U -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
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I don't see what you're getting at. I want to implement something big all by myself, please tell me what to do is not productive for the community, and not helpful for the novice asking. I want to get my feet wet, could anybody use some basic help? is good for everyone involved. I disapprove of discouraging people from offering to help with OSS: that's how you get started and how you get good. On Apr 16, 1:40 am, Ulises ulises.cerv...@gmail.com wrote: Not long ago I was faced with the same dilemma: I am learning clojure and to practise and improve my skills I'd like to contribute to an open source project. Which one should I pick? And then I came across this:http://prog21.dadgum.com/80.html Enjoy :) U -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Open Source Projects for Beg/ Intermediate
I disapprove of discouraging people from offering to help with OSS: that's how you get started and how you get good. Well, it's not really discouraging. Or at least, I don't see it that way. I see it more like encouraging to contribute but not regardless of personal interest. Personal interest on a project is a great motivator. Technical interest is likely to get you some of the way, but not all the way. Just mho :) U -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Open Source Projects for Beg/ Intermediate
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Carin Meier gigasq...@yahoo.com wrote: I have fallen for Clojure. I would love to be able to practice and hone my skills while contributing something to an open source project. Do you have any suggestions for projects that might have some low-hanging fruit for a newish person like me. Any floors that need sweeping? When I started with Clojure, I mostly focused on solving problems in Clojure that cropped up in my day job (not using Clojure) so I was essentially double developing a lot of things. That kept working in a domain I knew, knowing how to solve those problems in language X and then figuring out how to solve them elegantly in Clojure. Some times I'd ask on the #clojure IRC channel on freenode for input - folks are extremely helpful and the feedback was very valuable (and continues to be!). I think the advice to find - or create - a project that interests you and solves a problem you have is good advice. You need to know the domain so that you're not trying to learn two languages at once (the idioms of the domain language and the idioms of the programming language). So, questions to Carin, Alex and Alan (and Ulises): What interests you? What problems do you have that you'd like solutions for? Knowing that, folks might be able to point you at existing projects to take part in (or might confirm no such project exists and they'd be interested in collaborating with you)... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Open Source Projects for Beg/ Intermediate
On Apr 14, 6:47 pm, Carin Meier gigasq...@yahoo.com wrote: I have fallen for Clojure. I would love to be able to practice and hone my skills while contributing something to an open source project. Do you have any suggestions for projects that might have some low-hanging fruit for a newish person like me. Any floors that need sweeping? Clojars could use some help: https://github.com/ato/clojars-web/issues Here's a thread about possible improvements: http://groups.google.com/group/clojars-maintainers/browse_thread/thread/d4149ec96316d5b1 Chime in on that thread if anything there looks appealing. -Phil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Open Source Projects for Beg/ Intermediate
It feels to me that in addition to asking which open source projects would be useful/beneficial for novices to hack on, it would be useful to have a list of open source projects that are useful/beneficial for novices to read and understand. One thing that Clojure has taught me is that code reading is both possible and highly valuable. I think that having a list of approachable and idiomatic code bases would be a beneficial asset to our community. Sam --- http://sam.aaron.name On 15 Apr 2011, at 02:47, Carin Meier wrote: I have fallen for Clojure. I would love to be able to practice and hone my skills while contributing something to an open source project. Do you have any suggestions for projects that might have some low-hanging fruit for a newish person like me. Any floors that need sweeping? Carin Meier @carinmeier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Open Source Projects for Beg/ Intermediate
I'd like to second that. Since I started with Clojure it got me, but I need some practice, so if anyone needs enthusiastic workforce please let me know also. To Carin: Good luck in learning Clojure, should be pretty demanding but it will be great if we learn it. On Apr 15, 2:47 am, Carin Meier gigasq...@yahoo.com wrote: I have fallen for Clojure. I would love to be able to practice and hone my skills while contributing something to an open source project. Do you have any suggestions for projects that might have some low-hanging fruit for a newish person like me. Any floors that need sweeping? Carin Meier @carinmeier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Open Source Projects for Beg/ Intermediate
I'm learning Clojure also, and have been working through some of the project euler problems. (Got started on it from the labrepl introduction.) It has been a lot of fun and I think I'm learning a fair amount about how the language works. http://projecteuler.net/index.php?section=problems I've got solutions to the first 25 in my github repo. (I'm sure the code would make more experienced clojurians cry, but I'm excited about it :) https://github.com/alexrobbins/Project-Euler-Solutions-Clojure Alex On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Ptr6464 ptr6...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to second that. Since I started with Clojure it got me, but I need some practice, so if anyone needs enthusiastic workforce please let me know also. To Carin: Good luck in learning Clojure, should be pretty demanding but it will be great if we learn it. On Apr 15, 2:47 am, Carin Meier gigasq...@yahoo.com wrote: I have fallen for Clojure. I would love to be able to practice and hone my skills while contributing something to an open source project. Do you have any suggestions for projects that might have some low-hanging fruit for a newish person like me. Any floors that need sweeping? Carin Meier @carinmeier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Open Source Projects for Beg/ Intermediate
dbyrne is writing a sort of interactive learn clojure by problem- solving website at https://github.com/dbyrne/4clojure/. When he mentioned it to me I tweaked a few things, but it could use another hand or two. Especially, we're both dreadful web designers and so the pages look terrible. If someone with experience in that area is looking for a way to practice clojure while still having familiar things to work on when something new is overwhelming, this might be perfect. And I'm sure he'd love the help! On Apr 14, 6:47 pm, Carin Meier gigasq...@yahoo.com wrote: I have fallen for Clojure. I would love to be able to practice and hone my skills while contributing something to an open source project. Do you have any suggestions for projects that might have some low-hanging fruit for a newish person like me. Any floors that need sweeping? Carin Meier @carinmeier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Open Source Projects for Beg/ Intermediate
Thanks. Very cool project. On Apr 15, 5:49 pm, Alan a...@malloys.org wrote: dbyrne is writing a sort of interactive learn clojure by problem- solving website athttps://github.com/dbyrne/4clojure/. When he mentioned it to me I tweaked a few things, but it could use another hand or two. Especially, we're both dreadful web designers and so the pages look terrible. If someone with experience in that area is looking for a way to practice clojure while still having familiar things to work on when something new is overwhelming, this might be perfect. And I'm sure he'd love the help! On Apr 14, 6:47 pm, Carin Meier gigasq...@yahoo.com wrote: I have fallen for Clojure. I would love to be able to practice and hone my skills while contributing something to an open source project. Do you have any suggestions for projects that might have some low-hanging fruit for a newish person like me. Any floors that need sweeping? Carin Meier @carinmeier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Open Source Projects for Beg/ Intermediate
I have fallen for Clojure. I would love to be able to practice and hone my skills while contributing something to an open source project. Do you have any suggestions for projects that might have some low-hanging fruit for a newish person like me. Any floors that need sweeping? Carin Meier @carinmeier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
