Re: Stus-List Montague Harbour
Jeez, Jim. Looks like a perfect new career in the making. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-10, at 1:26, Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the listing... http://www.bcoceanfront.com/oceanfront-galiano-islandmontague-harbour-marina?id=273 On 9 April 2013 21:22, Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com wrote: That marina seems like it has been for sale forever. The new buyers wait maybe a year before putting out the for sale sign again. I suspect it's got a lot of potential. It's a potential sinkhole. On 9 April 2013 18:37, sam.c.sal...@gmail.com wrote: This place is up for sale. $1.6M Sailing friend of mine is looking at it seriously. Anyone on the west coast know anything about it? Anything of concern? Is it popular? Is the island sinking into the sea? I've sailed the Gulf Islands and the San Juans a lot, but never been to Montague. Sam Salter CC 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC -- Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Spiders - was Leather Wheel cover
Thanks for all the suggestions. I am on a mooring so no dock. The spiders come out at night and hide in the canvas work and anywhere else that is dark during the day. Right now that means the sail cover, the dodger, the bimini... and the pedestal. which is why I'm worried about the cover. I do like the looks of the sailrite DIY kit though. I'm fastidious about clearing away any cobwebs whenever I get to the boat, I have a little mini-broom just for spiders and spider webs. I kill or throw overboard whatever I can find. They never really seem to go in the cabin so that's at least something. I have tried that spider spray from the chandlery and it works, but it's temporary. I'll give some of your suggestions a try, it's probably going to end up being a combo of chemical warfare and discipline. Spiders suck for a number of reasons, they are messy sure but what really sucks is bringing friends out on the boat and then having them be uncomfortable the entire time because they saw a spider or six. I take a lot of my girlfriend's friends sailing. A lot of the twenty-somethings that come out seem to have only ever seen spiders like mine on the internet :/ Bar Keepers Friend is good at cleaning spider shit and spider guts, just FYI. It's good for cleaning the entire boat for that matter but I think most of you know this. Steve CC 32 Toronto On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net wrote: I used to have a spider problem, as do many of the folks on my dock at the club where I keep the boat. I have spent considerable time on moorings or at anchor, and can’t really say I have ever had a problem – though the little buggers do seem to be able to “fly” out to the boat on the wind and a thread of silk and I still had the occasional spider even when away from the dock. ** ** Now I say “used” to have a problem. Several of us have done two things to eliminate it. ** ** First, the spiders are there so they can eat the other bugs. Hence all the webs in the morning. (As someone already commented, you probably won’t get any spiders under your pedestal cover because there is no food there.) The clue for us was that the webs on the docks and the boats were densest every morning in the vicinity of the dock lighting. Light draws bugs. Bugs draw spiders. (and spiders draw birds that sit on the lifelines and boom, and poop all over the deck) ** ** Several of us replaced the bulbs in the dock lighting with low wattage yellow bug lights. Something like 10 watt night light bulbs. The number of spiders and webs greatly reduced – or maybe just moved to be adjacent to OPBs. ** ** Secondly, to take care of the remaining spiders several of us use a bugspray called “BugOff” that we purchase at Lowes. It comes in a gallon (or maybe 2 gallon) bottle with a pump and spray nozzle, and boy does it work well. We spray the dock, docklines, and pilings, and the area of the boat where the spiders build webs. A couple of applications and no spiders for 2 or 3 months. Repeat as required. ** ** Hope this helps with your problem. ** ** ** ** Rick Brass Washington, NC ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Stevan Plavsa *Sent:* Tuesday, April 09, 2013 11:39 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Leather Wheel cover treatment? ** ** At my club we have a tremendous problem with spiders. I'm on a mooring and the boat is COVERED in them. I looked at the binnacle cover kit from sailrite and while it looks like a good solution to keeping the wheel in nice shape it will most certainly become a favourite refuge for the spiders. ** ** Anyone else have a spider problem? I'm talking hundreds of them, every time I visit the boat. ** ** Steve CC 32 Toronto ** ** ** ** ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Spiders - was Leather Wheel cover
Steve, I made a pedestal cover out of 2 yards of Sunbrella, a can of 3M adhesive spray and 2 snaps. I need to stitch the bottom of one seam. It is not elegant, (the top is square) but it protects the instrument pod. Joel 35/3 On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for all the suggestions. I am on a mooring so no dock. The spiders come out at night and hide in the canvas work and anywhere else that is dark during the day. Right now that means the sail cover, the dodger, the bimini... and the pedestal. which is why I'm worried about the cover. I do like the looks of the sailrite DIY kit though. I'm fastidious about clearing away any cobwebs whenever I get to the boat, I have a little mini-broom just for spiders and spider webs. I kill or throw overboard whatever I can find. They never really seem to go in the cabin so that's at least something. I have tried that spider spray from the chandlery and it works, but it's temporary. I'll give some of your suggestions a try, it's probably going to end up being a combo of chemical warfare and discipline. Spiders suck for a number of reasons, they are messy sure but what really sucks is bringing friends out on the boat and then having them be uncomfortable the entire time because they saw a spider or six. I take a lot of my girlfriend's friends sailing. A lot of the twenty-somethings that come out seem to have only ever seen spiders like mine on the internet :/ Bar Keepers Friend is good at cleaning spider shit and spider guts, just FYI. It's good for cleaning the entire boat for that matter but I think most of you know this. Steve CC 32 Toronto On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.netwrote: I used to have a spider problem, as do many of the folks on my dock at the club where I keep the boat. I have spent considerable time on moorings or at anchor, and can’t really say I have ever had a problem – though the little buggers do seem to be able to “fly” out to the boat on the wind and a thread of silk and I still had the occasional spider even when away from the dock. ** ** Now I say “used” to have a problem. Several of us have done two things to eliminate it. ** ** First, the spiders are there so they can eat the other bugs. Hence all the webs in the morning. (As someone already commented, you probably won’t get any spiders under your pedestal cover because there is no food there.) The clue for us was that the webs on the docks and the boats were densest every morning in the vicinity of the dock lighting. Light draws bugs. Bugs draw spiders. (and spiders draw birds that sit on the lifelines and boom, and poop all over the deck) ** ** Several of us replaced the bulbs in the dock lighting with low wattage yellow bug lights. Something like 10 watt night light bulbs. The number of spiders and webs greatly reduced – or maybe just moved to be adjacent to OPBs. ** ** Secondly, to take care of the remaining spiders several of us use a bugspray called “BugOff” that we purchase at Lowes. It comes in a gallon (or maybe 2 gallon) bottle with a pump and spray nozzle, and boy does it work well. We spray the dock, docklines, and pilings, and the area of the boat where the spiders build webs. A couple of applications and no spiders for 2 or 3 months. Repeat as required. ** ** Hope this helps with your problem. ** ** ** ** Rick Brass Washington, NC ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Stevan Plavsa *Sent:* Tuesday, April 09, 2013 11:39 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Leather Wheel cover treatment? ** ** At my club we have a tremendous problem with spiders. I'm on a mooring and the boat is COVERED in them. I looked at the binnacle cover kit from sailrite and while it looks like a good solution to keeping the wheel in nice shape it will most certainly become a favourite refuge for the spiders. ** ** Anyone else have a spider problem? I'm talking hundreds of them, every time I visit the boat. ** ** Steve CC 32 Toronto ** ** ** ** ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Boats for sail - Craigslist
Here is info on the design: http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=2138 Love that rudder! Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Della Barba, Joe joe.della.ba...@ssa.govwrote: Info for you all: ** ** The interior is fine. In the process of Spring cleaning inside and out. Will post interior photos after a weeks time. Mostly working on the bottom paint, boot stripes and hull wax now. ** ** On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Della Barba, Joe 9841edf9cfd13fe7a6a6190c27864...@reply.craigslist.org wrote: Do you have any details or photos? For example, I have no idea from the ad if the interior looks new or is a rotted mess. THANKS Joe http://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/3724616438.html ** ** ** ** *Joe Della Barba* Coquina ** ** Could be a nice boat for someone. *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel Aronson *Sent:* Tuesday, April 09, 2013 11:46 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List Boats for sail - Craigslist ** ** 40' CC Crusader Sloop Sailboathttp://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/3724616438.html $15000 (Irvington, VA) pic map http://annapolis.craigslist.org/boo/ boats - by owner http://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/ 38' CC Sailboat http://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/3732591117.html 1977 $3 (South River) pic boats - by ownerhttp://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/ ** ** -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Spiders - was Leather Wheel cover
Seems like a shame to chuck them overboard when you could be enjoying them. Suggest trying: http://bertc.com/subfive/recipes/spidersalad.htm Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-10, at 9:39, Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions. I am on a mooring so no dock. The spiders come out at night and hide in the canvas work and anywhere else that is dark during the day. Right now that means the sail cover, the dodger, the bimini... and the pedestal. which is why I'm worried about the cover. I do like the looks of the sailrite DIY kit though. I'm fastidious about clearing away any cobwebs whenever I get to the boat, I have a little mini-broom just for spiders and spider webs. I kill or throw overboard whatever I can find. They never really seem to go in the cabin so that's at least something. I have tried that spider spray from the chandlery and it works, but it's temporary. I'll give some of your suggestions a try, it's probably going to end up being a combo of chemical warfare and discipline. Spiders suck for a number of reasons, they are messy sure but what really sucks is bringing friends out on the boat and then having them be uncomfortable the entire time because they saw a spider or six. I take a lot of my girlfriend's friends sailing. A lot of the twenty-somethings that come out seem to have only ever seen spiders like mine on the internet :/ Bar Keepers Friend is good at cleaning spider shit and spider guts, just FYI. It's good for cleaning the entire boat for that matter but I think most of you know this. Steve CC 32 Toronto On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net wrote: I used to have a spider problem, as do many of the folks on my dock at the club where I keep the boat. I have spent considerable time on moorings or at anchor, and can’t really say I have ever had a problem – though the little buggers do seem to be able to “fly” out to the boat on the wind and a thread of silk and I still had the occasional spider even when away from the dock. Now I say “used” to have a problem. Several of us have done two things to eliminate it. First, the spiders are there so they can eat the other bugs. Hence all the webs in the morning. (As someone already commented, you probably won’t get any spiders under your pedestal cover because there is no food there.) The clue for us was that the webs on the docks and the boats were densest every morning in the vicinity of the dock lighting. Light draws bugs. Bugs draw spiders. (and spiders draw birds that sit on the lifelines and boom, and poop all over the deck) Several of us replaced the bulbs in the dock lighting with low wattage yellow bug lights. Something like 10 watt night light bulbs. The number of spiders and webs greatly reduced – or maybe just moved to be adjacent to OPBs. Secondly, to take care of the remaining spiders several of us use a bugspray called “BugOff” that we purchase at Lowes. It comes in a gallon (or maybe 2 gallon) bottle with a pump and spray nozzle, and boy does it work well. We spray the dock, docklines, and pilings, and the area of the boat where the spiders build webs. A couple of applications and no spiders for 2 or 3 months. Repeat as required. Hope this helps with your problem. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 11:39 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Leather Wheel cover treatment? At my club we have a tremendous problem with spiders. I'm on a mooring and the boat is COVERED in them. I looked at the binnacle cover kit from sailrite and while it looks like a good solution to keeping the wheel in nice shape it will most certainly become a favourite refuge for the spiders. Anyone else have a spider problem? I'm talking hundreds of them, every time I visit the boat. Steve CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Defender delivery
Brent Does that mean you did not have to buy all your supporting charts from iTunes and trade in all your std horizon VHF and other gear for Appl... er Ramarine? I thought that once you bought a single Raymarine product (say a compass if they had such ... that you would have to replace everything else you owned with Raymarine as well and connect them using RayCloud and buy everything from RayTunes From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Brent Driedger Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Defender delivery I have purchased 3 separate Raymarine products for my boat in the last 2 years from 3 different suppliers including Defender. Each time the product arrived I am surprised by the very un-Apple like way they do their packaging. The only reassurance I have that the product was last touched by foreign factory workers is that the instructions and supporting bits are sealed in baggies. Brent 27-5 s/v Wild Rover Lake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone On 2013-04-09, at 10:41 PM, djhaug...@juno.com djhaug...@juno.com wrote: Well, They sent me out another unit it is exactly the same... Except, now everything says TackTick instead of Raymarine... If it wasn't for that, I'd have bet it was the same box of stuff... I don't what to say... Why would they open the boxes...it does not make any sense to me... Is the fact that it now says TackTick mean anything... It's just weird... guess I'll stick with this and see if it works... Danny -- Original Message -- From: Hoyt, Mike mike.h...@impgroup.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Defender delivery Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:28:30 -0300 Danny Do you suspect this was maybe a display unit at some point? Are they offering an open box discount like many big box retailers do? Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 7:43 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Defender delivery Okay, So the Tack tick/raymarine instruments just showed up Thursday night. I opened the shipping box and pulled out the Tack Tick box and the first thing I notice is the factory seal is broken. I go no further and write them the next morning and tell them about the seal. Thay then say, Mr. Haughey, Thank you for your email. There are times when our sales department will need to open the boxes on some instruments to double check something such as if all the parts are present. I would say go ahead and inspect the item to ensure all pieces are in the box and nothing looks amiss. There should be instructions in the box which will tell you what should be included. If anything looks questionable, please send us a photo and we can check on our end to see if that is how the unit should be or not. I do not think what you received is anything used, though, we likely just had to get into an unit box to check on a part. Sincerely,... I really don't like this answer. Why would they open a box the check if all the parts are there??? I call BS! Anyway, I open the box this morning and there are scratches, the lens protectors are all bubbles underneath. They just called me as I'm writing this... He is telling me that they aren't packages well from the factory, they have never taken a return...blah blah blah...but, I'll get another one right out to you... He have a much better argument if the factory seal wasn't broken... The stuff is all rattling around in the box! This is how ray marine packages a $2000 system? I guess Ill find out when I get the next one... Here a few photos. http://sdrv.ms/10FhaTl http://sdrv.ms/10Fhh17 http://sdrv.ms/10FhpO8 http://sdrv.ms/10FhD7S http://sdrv.ms/10FhGk6 I http://sdrv.ms/10FhpO8 t just all seems quite strange to me... Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 Westport Point, MA -- Original Message -- From: djhaug...@juno.com djhaug...@juno.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Defender delivery Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 06:23:33 -0400 I got my stuff yesterday too! I did not get a chance to open the boxes yet but, should do that this evening. I had walled out of there without ordering a new hatch. My
Re: Stus-List Defender delivery
Mike,that's funny!...raytunes! awesome! Maybe I should be happy the new stuff says Tack Tick LOL Danny -- Original Message -- From: Hoyt, Mike mike.h...@impgroup.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Defender delivery Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 10:00:22 -0300 Brent Does that mean you did not have to buy all your supporting charts from iTunes and trade in all your std horizon VHF and other gear for Appl... er Ramarine? I thought that once you bought a single Raymarine product (say a compass if they had such ... that you would have to replace everything else you owned with Raymarine as well and connect them using RayCloud and buy everything from RayTunes From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Brent Driedger Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Defender delivery I have purchased 3 separate Raymarine products for my boat in the last 2 years from 3 different suppliers including Defender. Each time the product arrived I am surprised by the very un-Apple like way they do their packaging. The only reassurance I have that the product was last touched by foreign factory workers is that the instructions and supporting bits are sealed in baggies. Brent27-5s/v Wild RoverLake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone On 2013-04-09, at 10:41 PM, djhaug...@juno.com djhaug...@juno.com wrote: Well, They sent me out another unit it is exactly the same... Except, now everything says TackTick instead of Raymarine... If it wasn't for that, I'd have bet it was the same box of stuff... I don't what to say... Why would they open the boxes...it does not make any sense to me... Is the fact that it now says TackTick mean anything... It's just weird... guess I'll stick with this and see if it works... Danny -- Original Message -- From: Hoyt, Mike mike.h...@impgroup.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Defender delivery Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:28:30 -0300 Danny Do you suspect this was maybe a display unit at some point? Are they offering an open box discount like many big box retailers do? MikeFrom: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 7:43 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Defender delivery Okay,So the Tack tick/raymarine instruments just showed up Thursday night. I opened the shipping box and pulled out the Tack Tick box and the first thing I notice is the factory seal is broken. I go no further and write them the next morning and tell them about the seal. Thay then say, Mr. Haughey,Thank you for your email. There are times when our sales department willneed to open the boxes on some instruments to double check something such asif all the parts are present. I would say go ahead and inspect the item toensure all pieces are in the box and nothing looks amiss. There should beinstructions in the box which will tell you what should be included. Ifanything looks questionable, please send us a photo and we can check on ourend to see if that is how the unit should be or not. I do not think what youreceived is anything used, though, we likely just had to get into an unitbox to check on a part.Sincerely,... I really don't like this answer. Why would they open a box the check if all the parts are there??? I call BS! Anyway, I open the box this morning and there are scratches, the lens protectors are all bubbles underneath. They just called me as I'm writing this... He is telling me that they aren't packages well from the factory, they have never taken a return...blah blah blah...but, I'll get another one right out to you... He have a much better argument if the factory seal wasn't broken... The stuff is all rattling around in the box! This is how ray marine packages a $2000 system? I guess Ill find out when I get the next one... Here a few photos. http://sdrv.ms/10FhaTl http://sdrv.ms/10Fhh17 http://sdrv.ms/10FhpO8 http://sdrv.ms/10FhD7S http://sdrv.ms/10FhGk6 It just all seems quite strange to me... Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 Westport Point, MA -- Original Message -- From: djhaug...@juno.com djhaug...@juno.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Defender delivery Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 06:23:33 -0400 I got my stuff yesterday too! I did not get a chance to open the boxes yet but, should do that this evening. I had walled out of there without ordering a new hatch. My bowmar hatch has a broken hinge and there are no replacement parts available. So I ended up calling then like thursday, after the sale and they honored the sale price on a lewmar low profile model. I pulled the old hatch over the weekend and all the bolts were suck and some snapped. I guess that the nw hatch was definitely in order. I've now blown my budget for this year. Danny Lolita 1973 viking 33 Westport point, ma T-Mobile.
Re: Stus-List Montague Harbour
Turn it into a private club for the Pacific NW CC'ers; then you can hold the annual rendezvous there… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 10, 2013, at 3:08 AM, Knowles Rich r...@sailpower.ca wrote: Jeez, Jim. Looks like a perfect new career in the making. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-10, at 1:26, Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the listing... http://www.bcoceanfront.com/oceanfront-galiano-islandmontague-harbour-marina?id=273 On 9 April 2013 21:22, Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com wrote: That marina seems like it has been for sale forever. The new buyers wait maybe a year before putting out the for sale sign again. I suspect it's got a lot of potential. It's a potential sinkhole. On 9 April 2013 18:37, sam.c.sal...@gmail.com wrote: This place is up for sale. $1.6M Sailing friend of mine is looking at it seriously. Anyone on the west coast know anything about it? Anything of concern? Is it popular? Is the island sinking into the sea? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Montague Harbour
I sold a marina/campground with 340 acres of land for 2.7 million at foreclosure in 2011. The buyer has already invested 5 million in upgrades, bulkheads, removing derelict boats etc. If you think a boat is a money pit, buy a fixer-upper boat yard! Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.netwrote: Turn it into a private club for the Pacific NW CC'ers; then you can hold the annual rendezvous there… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 10, 2013, at 3:08 AM, Knowles Rich r...@sailpower.ca wrote: Jeez, Jim. Looks like a perfect new career in the making. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-10, at 1:26, Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the listing... http://www.bcoceanfront.com/oceanfront-galiano-islandmontague-harbour-marina?id=273 On 9 April 2013 21:22, Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com wrote: That marina seems like it has been for sale forever. The new buyers wait maybe a year before putting out the for sale sign again. I suspect it's got a lot of potential. It's a potential sinkhole. On 9 April 2013 18:37, sam.c.sal...@gmail.com wrote: This place is up for sale. $1.6M Sailing friend of mine is looking at it seriously. Anyone on the west coast know anything about it? Anything of concern? Is it popular? Is the island sinking into the sea? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Montague Harbour
If he does, I'll move! Time for a change. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-10, at 10:40, Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net wrote: Turn it into a private club for the Pacific NW CC'ers; then you can hold the annual rendezvous there… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 10, 2013, at 3:08 AM, Knowles Rich r...@sailpower.ca wrote: Jeez, Jim. Looks like a perfect new career in the making. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-10, at 1:26, Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the listing... http://www.bcoceanfront.com/oceanfront-galiano-islandmontague-harbour-marina?id=273 On 9 April 2013 21:22, Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com wrote: That marina seems like it has been for sale forever. The new buyers wait maybe a year before putting out the for sale sign again. I suspect it's got a lot of potential. It's a potential sinkhole. On 9 April 2013 18:37, sam.c.sal...@gmail.com wrote: This place is up for sale. $1.6M Sailing friend of mine is looking at it seriously. Anyone on the west coast know anything about it? Anything of concern? Is it popular? Is the island sinking into the sea? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Montague Harbour
Me too. I'll even manage the property for ya for an average salary and a slip for the Enterprise. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Knowles Rich r...@sailpower.ca wrote: If he does, I'll move! Time for a change. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-10, at 10:40, Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net wrote: Turn it into a private club for the Pacific NW CC'ers; then you can hold the annual rendezvous there… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 10, 2013, at 3:08 AM, Knowles Rich r...@sailpower.ca wrote: Jeez, Jim. Looks like a perfect new career in the making. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-10, at 1:26, Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the listing... http://www.bcoceanfront.com/oceanfront-galiano-islandmontague-harbour-marina?id=273 On 9 April 2013 21:22, Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com wrote: That marina seems like it has been for sale forever. The new buyers wait maybe a year before putting out the for sale sign again. I suspect it's got a lot of potential. It's a potential sinkhole. On 9 April 2013 18:37, sam.c.sal...@gmail.com wrote: This place is up for sale. $1.6M Sailing friend of mine is looking at it seriously. Anyone on the west coast know anything about it? Anything of concern? Is it popular? Is the island sinking into the sea? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Sail numbering
I have a 1977 29 mk1, are the sail numbers the same as part of the hull number or were the arbitrarily assigned. Sent from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Paul, Originally, they were arbitrarily assigned. Sometimes it would have to do with the hull number; sometimes not. If you race your boat and would like something official, you can ask US Sailing to assign you a number, which will be 5-6 digits long. Alternatively, if you want to use your own number, especially something in the 3-4 digit range, chances are you won't have any local conflicts. In my case, I picked 1701 as my sail number (See http://www.buildtheenterprise.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/ncc-1701-top-USS-Enterprise.jpg). There are no other 1701s in LI Sound and I'd bet the boat that was originally assigned 1701 from US Sailing is so old that it's probably long gone by now. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Paul Taylor besom_ri...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a 1977 29 mk1, are the sail numbers the same as part of the hull number or were the arbitrarily assigned. Sent from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Hi Paul, I had this answer from sculpin on sailinganarchy when I was searching to change ownership of my sail number. Quote: Sail number was assigned to the boat when it was sold, the first two are location identifiers. Totally separate from the HIN (hull identification number), which you will find on the transom, upper stbd. If you are racing you will want to register with the local sailing association, they will want your sail number (since it is hard to see the 5mm high VIN from the finish line!). From an old post on there, here is an explanation of sail number assignment: First, go to: http://offshore.ussa...ail_Numbers.htm Next, break your sail number into two parts, the first digit and the last four. In Tim's case 8 4033. In the table on the site above, scroll down the first column to the row with 8. Now scroll across in that row to the column with the header block that contains the last four digits. 4033 falls in the 4000-4250 block. At the intersection is CYA. Sail number 84033 was issued by Canadian Yachting Association. End of quote. My sail number is 54988, which was issued by CYA Pierre Tremblay Avalanche, #54988 CC38-3 WK De : Paul Taylor besom_ri...@yahoo.com À : cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Envoyé le : mercredi 10 avril 2013 11h05 Objet : Stus-List Sail numbering I have a 1977 29 mk1, are the sail numbers the same as part of the hull number or were the arbitrarily assigned. Sent from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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My sail number is 84033 , The sails were the ones used In the CC 33Mkii brochure .. 1984 33 ... 84033 , the original owners bought the sails when he ordered the boat . Tim From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Pierre Tremblay Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:21 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail numbering Hi Paul, I had this answer from sculpin on sailinganarchy when I was searching to change ownership of my sail number. Quote: Sail number was assigned to the boat when it was sold, the first two are location identifiers. Totally separate from the HIN (hull identification number), which you will find on the transom, upper stbd. If you are racing you will want to register with the local sailing association, they will want your sail number (since it is hard to see the 5mm high VIN from the finish line!). From an old post on there, here is an explanation of sail number assignment: First, go to: http://offshore.ussa...ail_Numbers.htm http://offshore.ussailing.org/Sail_Numbers.htm Next, break your sail number into two parts, the first digit and the last four. In Tim's case 8 4033. In the table on the site above, scroll down the first column to the row with 8. Now scroll across in that row to the column with the header block that contains the last four digits. 4033 falls in the 4000-4250 block. At the intersection is CYA. Sail number 84033 was issued by Canadian Yachting Association. End of quote. My sail number is 54988, which was issued by CYA Pierre Tremblay Avalanche, #54988 CC38-3 WK De : Paul Taylor besom_ri...@yahoo.com À : cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Envoyé le : mercredi 10 avril 2013 11h05 Objet : Stus-List Sail numbering I have a 1977 29 mk1, are the sail numbers the same as part of the hull number or were the arbitrarily assigned. Sent from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com This e-mail (and attachment(s)) is confidential, proprietary, may be subject to copyright and legal privilege and no related rights are waived. If you are not the intended recipient or its agent, any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail or any of its content is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. All messages may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations and our policies to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and you are deemed to have accepted any risk if you communicate with us by e-mail. If received in error, please notify us immediately and delete the e-mail (and any attachments) from any computer or any storage medium without printing a copy. Ce courriel (ainsi que ses pièces jointes) est confidentiel, exclusif, et peut faire l’objet de droit d’auteur et de privilège juridique; aucun droit connexe n’est exclu. Si vous n’êtes pas le destinataire visé ou son représentant, toute étude, diffusion, transmission ou copie de ce courriel en tout ou en partie, est strictement interdite et peut être illégale. Tous les messages peuvent être surveillés, selon les lois et règlements applicables et les politiques de protection de notre entreprise. Les courriels ne sont pas sécurisés et vous êtes réputés avoir accepté tous les risques qui y sont liés si vous choisissez de communiquer avec nous par ce moyen. Si vous avez reçu ce message par erreur, veuillez nous en aviser immédiatement et supprimer ce courriel (ainsi que toutes ses pièces jointes) de tout ordinateur ou support de données sans en imprimer une copie. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Most of the 29 Mark 1 and Mark 2 fleet use the 3 digit number from the hull ID number Ie hull number CCY29693D485 = sail number 693 If you email me off list with your contact info, I will add you to the list of 29 owners - Your name, Boat Name, full hull number, hailing port, address, phone, email Best regards, Bob Hickson, P. Eng, RHI, CEA CC 29-2 Flying Colours Frenchman's Bay Yacht Club Pickering, ON (416) 919-2297 mailto:bobhick...@rogers.com bobhick...@rogers.com __/) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Sam, I concur with Russ's comments. I have anchored in and visited Montague Harbour with Calypso and our prior CC 36 for many years. Walking the BC park beach is one of our favorite BC Gulf Island activities. More importantly this is one of the places the lovely Mrs. Calypso often speaks of as a reason to cross the Straits of Juan de Fuca and deal with the border crossings. Each visit we would dinghy over to the marina and cruise the general store, maybe buy lunch or an ice cream cone. We do have several arty type things in our house from Galiano Island artists, purchased at the store. Using my day job business glasses, anybody purchasing this type of business will need significant working capital beyond the purchase price to survive the early low season(s) (i.e. winter). If I was a person of substantial means and was looking for a retirement or hobby business I would be interested. If I needed to make a profit every working day to stay afloat this type of business and location would not pass the viable business test. Martin Calypso 1970 CC 43 Seattle -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Russ Melody Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 6:48 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Montague Harbour Hi Sam, It is a lovely, relatively large harbour. Shallow on the south-east end and very protected. A good hurricane hole... except we don't get hurricane here. Ferry service to Vancouver and to other locations if that's important I expect 1.6 mil will only by a piece of it and not the park area. Cheers, Russ Sweet, 35 mk-1 At 06:37 PM 09/04/2013, you wrote: This place is up for sale. $1.6M Sailing friend of mine is looking at it seriously. Anyone on the west coast know anything about it? Anything of concern? Is it popular? Is the island sinking into the sea? I've sailed the Gulf Islands and the San Juan's a lot, but never been to Montague. Sam Salter CC 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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In my experience, there are three ways to get a sail number: 1) Pick a number that you like that is less than 5 digits, and stick with it. I've known a few people who elected to do this - but that was primarily because they did not know that the sail numbers actually have a certain logic to them. 2) Use you hull number, which you will find stamped in your transom, on your title, on your registration or documentation, etc. Here is a link that explains how to read the HIN for your boat: http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hin.html The sail numbers on my 25 mk1 are 225. The HIN is CCY252250274, hence hull number 225. 3) Get an official North American sail number by the process used at US Sailing and the Canadian Yachting Association. Go to http://offshore.ussailing.org/Sail_Numbers.htm to look at the process. Basically the numbers are issued by several regional authorities including the Detroit River Yachting Assn., CBYRA, CYA, etc. The numbers are 5 digits long and issued sequentially. The last 4 digits will tell you the region where the number was issued, For example the 15202 on my 38 footer was issued by DRYA when the boat eas first raced. Tom Sippel's 84033 came from CYC. Rick Brass Washington, NC -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul Taylor Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:06 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Sail numbering I have a 1977 29 mk1, are the sail numbers the same as part of the hull number or were the arbitrarily assigned. Sent from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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There is another boat with the same number as Koobalibra - somewhere out in the Pacific Northwest. 59115 is part of the number sequence issued by the Pacific International Yachting Assn out of Olympia, Washington as part of the US Sailing/ CYA system. Rick Brass From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:14 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC Sail numbering Koobalibra CC 115 59115 Prospector CC99 99095 Model and hull number in each case ... _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bob Hickson Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:32 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Sail numbering Most of the 29 Mark 1 and Mark 2 fleet use the 3 digit number from the hull ID number Ie hull number CCY29693D485 = sail number 693 If you email me off list with your contact info, I will add you to the list of 29 owners - Your name, Boat Name, full hull number, hailing port, address, phone, email Best regards, Bob Hickson, P. Eng, RHI, CEA CC 29-2 Flying Colours Frenchman's Bay Yacht Club Pickering, ON (416) 919-2297 mailto:bobhick...@rogers.com bobhick...@rogers.com __/) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC Sail numbering
I will have to let Dave know not to enter us in any Pacific NW regattas this summer. That delivery would be a bitch anyway though. This does pointyout the problems with manufacturers assigning sail numbers. Should be all assigned by US Sail, Cansail or other national bodies at time of boat manufacture in my opinion. Of course my boat has two sail numbers - 150 (hull number) and 50757. Thankfully all the sails with 150 on them are now gone so is less confusing for me. Would hate to look up and think I was on the wrong boat and have to jump overboard during a race! Mike Nut Case 50757 Koobalibra crew 59115 (the East Coast 59115) From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC Sail numbering There is another boat with the same number as Koobalibra - somewhere out in the Pacific Northwest. 59115 is part of the number sequence issued by the Pacific International Yachting Assn out of Olympia, Washington as part of the US Sailing/ CYA system. Rick Brass From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:14 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC Sail numbering Koobalibra CC 115 59115 Prospector CC99 99095 Model and hull number in each case ... From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bob Hickson Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:32 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Sail numbering Most of the 29 Mark 1 and Mark 2 fleet use the 3 digit number from the hull ID number Ie hull number CCY29693D485 = sail number 693 If you email me off list with your contact info, I will add you to the list of 29 owners - Your name, Boat Name, full hull number, hailing port, address, phone, email Best regards, Bob Hickson, P. Eng, RHI, CEA CC 29-2 Flying Colours Frenchman's Bay Yacht Club Pickering, ON (416) 919-2297 bobhick...@rogers.com mailto:bobhick...@rogers.com __/) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Around here, the five digit numbers are issued by the CBYRA for racing, mine is 83346, with the 3 being identified with Chesapeake Bay. Or, I could use the CC 593 number, being the hull number of the boat. Our J-24 has a one design number of 1223 (old boat), as the new ones are in the 5000 range. Don't know how Canada does it. Gary St. Michaels - Original Message - From: Tim Sippel To: Pierre Tremblay ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail numbering My sail number is 84033 , The sails were the ones used In the CC 33Mkii brochure .. 1984 33 … 84033 , the original owners bought the sails when he ordered the boat . Tim From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Pierre Tremblay Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:21 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail numbering Hi Paul, I had this answer from sculpin on sailinganarchy when I was searching to change ownership of my sail number. Quote: Sail number was assigned to the boat when it was sold, the first two are location identifiers. Totally separate from the HIN (hull identification number), which you will find on the transom, upper stbd. If you are racing you will want to register with the local sailing association, they will want your sail number (since it is hard to see the 5mm high VIN from the finish line!). From an old post on there, here is an explanation of sail number assignment: First, go to: http://offshore.ussa...ail_Numbers.htm Next, break your sail number into two parts, the first digit and the last four. In Tim's case 8 4033. In the table on the site above, scroll down the first column to the row with 8. Now scroll across in that row to the column with the header block that contains the last four digits. 4033 falls in the 4000-4250 block. At the intersection is CYA. Sail number 84033 was issued by Canadian Yachting Association. End of quote. My sail number is 54988, which was issued by CYA Pierre Tremblay Avalanche, #54988 CC38-3 WK De : Paul Taylor besom_ri...@yahoo.com À : cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Envoyé le : mercredi 10 avril 2013 11h05 Objet : Stus-List Sail numbering I have a 1977 29 mk1, are the sail numbers the same as part of the hull number or were the arbitrarily assigned. Sent from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com This e-mail (and attachment(s)) is confidential, proprietary, may be subject to copyright and legal privilege and no related rights are waived. If you are not the intended recipient or its agent, any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail or any of its content is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. All messages may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations and our policies to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and you are deemed to have accepted any risk if you communicate with us by e-mail. If received in error, please notify us immediately and delete the e-mail (and any attachments) from any computer or any storage medium without printing a copy. Ce courriel (ainsi que ses pièces jointes) est confidentiel, exclusif, et peut faire l’objet de droit d’auteur et de privilège juridique; aucun droit connexe n’est exclu. Si vous n’êtes pas le destinataire visé ou son représentant, toute étude, diffusion, transmission ou copie de ce courriel en tout ou en partie, est strictement interdite et peut être illégale. Tous les messages peuvent être surveillés, selon les lois et règlements applicables et les politiques de protection de notre entreprise. Les courriels ne sont pas sécurisés et vous êtes réputés avoir accepté tous les risques qui y sont liés si vous choisissez de communiquer avec nous par ce moyen. Si vous avez reçu ce message par erreur, veuillez nous en aviser immédiatement et supprimer ce courriel (ainsi que toutes ses pièces jointes) de tout ordinateur ou support de données sans en imprimer une copie. -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Maybe Canada does it based on the number of spiders on board? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website On Apr 10, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Gary Nylander gnylan...@atlanticbb.net wrote: Around here, the five digit numbers are issued by the CBYRA for racing, mine is 83346, with the 3 being identified with Chesapeake Bay. Or, I could use the CC 593 number, being the hull number of the boat. Our J-24 has a one design number of 1223 (old boat), as the new ones are in the 5000 range. Don't know how Canada does it. Gary St. Michaels _ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Mike, Has Dave decided if he is bringing Koobalibra up for Race the Cape? Ken H. http://www.racethecape.ca/ On 10 April 2013 15:27, Hoyt, Mike mike.h...@impgroup.com wrote: ** I will have to let Dave know not to enter us in any Pacific NW regattas this summer. That delivery would be a bitch anyway though. This does pointyout the problems with manufacturers assigning sail numbers. Should be all assigned by US Sail, Cansail or other national bodies at time of boat manufacture in my opinion. Of course my boat has two sail numbers - 150 (hull number) and 50757. Thankfully all the sails with 150 on them are now gone so is less confusing for me. Would hate to look up and think I was on the wrong boat and have to jump overboard during a race! Mike Nut Case 50757 Koobalibra crew 59115 (the East Coast 59115) -- *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Brass *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:22 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List CC Sail numbering There is another boat with the same number as Koobalibra – somewhere out in the Pacific Northwest. 59115 is part of the number sequence issued by the Pacific International Yachting Assn out of Olympia, Washington as part of the US Sailing/ CYA system. ** ** Rick Brass ** ** *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Hoyt, Mike *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:14 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List CC Sail numbering ** ** Koobalibra CC 115 59115 Prospector CC99 99095 Model and hull number in each case ... ** ** -- *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.comcnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Bob Hickson *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:32 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List Sail numbering Most of the 29 Mark 1 and Mark 2 fleet use the 3 digit number from the hull ID number ** ** ** ** Ie hull number CCY29*693*D485 = sail number 693 ** ** If you email me off list with your contact info, I will add you to the list of 29 owners - Your name, Boat Name, full hull number, hailing port, address, phone, email ** ** Best regards, *Bob Hickson, P. Eng, RHI, CEA* *CC 29-2 Flying Colours* *Frenchman's Bay Yacht Club* *Pickering, ON* *(416) 919-2297* *bobhick...@rogers.com* * * __/) ** ** ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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We'll my number 54955 was issued by the Canadian Yachting Association (CYA), now called Sail Canada so that's how they did it in my case. It's numbering fits into the scheme in the US Sailing website quoted elsewhere. Ken H. Sail Canada - www.sailing.cahttp://www.google.com/url?sa=Dq=http://www.sailing.ca/usg=AFQjCNGxhcv_783u80bpHer3niQ8O1XBBQ On 10 April 2013 16:04, Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com wrote: Maybe Canada does it based on the number of spiders on board? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Websitehttp://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Apr 10, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Gary Nylander gnylan...@atlanticbb.net wrote: Around here, the five digit numbers are issued by the CBYRA for racing, mine is 83346, with the 3 being identified with Chesapeake Bay. Or, I could use the CC 593 number, being the hull number of the boat. Our J-24 has a one design number of 1223 (old boat), as the new ones are in the 5000 range. Don't know how Canada does it. Gary St. Michaels _ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Sail is not big enough for more numbers Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bob Hickson Sent: April 10, 2013 1:32 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Sail numbering Most of the 29 Mark 1 and Mark 2 fleet use the 3 digit number from the hull ID number Ie hull number CCY29693D485 = sail number 693 If you email me off list with your contact info, I will add you to the list of 29 owners - Your name, Boat Name, full hull number, hailing port, address, phone, email Best regards, Bob Hickson, P. Eng, RHI, CEA CC 29-2 Flying Colours Frenchman's Bay Yacht Club Pickering, ON (416) 919-2297 mailto:bobhick...@rogers.com bobhick...@rogers.com __/) _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5736 - Release Date: 04/10/13 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sail numbering
The number that came with the sails, all 12 of them, on my 35 MKII is 12699, also a US number I believe. Judging from all the gear and sails that came with Alianna I would say someone had outfitted her pretty well for racing before I got her. It was not the previous owner so it's hard to find out the history. Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: April 10, 2013 5:18 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail numbering Touche's sail number, 10435, was issued by USYRU. USYRU became USSA in 1991. However, the numbering scheme was the same as Rick references below. My previous boat, not being a racer, simply used the hull number, 297. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #84 Mandeville, LA _ From: Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail numbering In my experience, there are three ways to get a sail number: 1) Pick a number that you like that is less than 5 digits, and stick with it. I've known a few people who elected to do this - but that was primarily because they did not know that the sail numbers actually have a certain logic to them. 2) Use you hull number, which you will find stamped in your transom, on your title, on your registration or documentation, etc. Here is a link that explains how to read the HIN for your boat: http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hin.html The sail numbers on my 25 mk1 are 225. The HIN is CCY252250274, hence hull number 225. 3) Get an official North American sail number by the process used at US Sailing and the Canadian Yachting Association. Go to http://offshore.ussailing.org/Sail_Numbers.htm to look at the process. Basically the numbers are issued by several regional authorities including the Detroit River Yachting Assn., CBYRA, CYA, etc. The numbers are 5 digits long and issued sequentially. The last 4 digits will tell you the region where the number was issued, For example the 15202 on my 38 footer was issued by DRYA when the boat eas first raced. Tom Sippel's 84033 came from CYC. Rick Brass Washington, NC -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul Taylor Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:06 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Sail numbering I have a 1977 29 mk1, are the sail numbers the same as part of the hull number or were the arbitrarily assigned. Sent from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5736 - Release Date: 04/10/13 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Question
Background on the question..replaced the muffler and mixing elbow today.first time for me doing this job, second time for my mentor who assistedhe was the more experienced at these tasks, thank godgot to the last part of the job and ran into the old saying, there are no easy jobs. couldn't get the 2 hose to the muffler on the mixing elbow end the mixing elbow has a small 'lip' that is the challenge.went on easy over the lip on the new Vernalift mufflerworked on it until I called quit.put on liquid dish detergent heat gun .put the hose in hot waterclose but close doesn't countcan't get enough leverage to push it up over the lip of the mixing elbowreally frustrating. Before someone says do you have the correct hose sizeyes...2 hard wall marine hose came off. the same is going on.I had to cut the old one off on the mixing elbow side. A smart guy, which I wasn't today, would have put the mixing elbow side hose on in the vice grip on the work bench and not when you are on your side in the engine compartment with little to no leverage. Mixing elbow is not coming off going back to the workbench to get his hose on even if I have to go to a slightly bigger hose. I need some really innovative ideas to stretch the 2 hose to get it over the end of the mixing elbow. Don't tell me to use soap, heat, hot water.tried all of those today.I need a really innovative solution... There is no problem that can't be overcome..help me please! Bob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sail numbering
12699 was a number issued by US Sailing (or the USYRU) - probably quite a while ago because US Sailing numbers are up to the 60001-61259 range currently. So the owner who got the number assigned lived in the eastern 2/3 of the US, but not in the lake Huron area, nor near Chesapeake Bay. Out of curiosity I may call US Sailing tomorrow and see if there is a way to look up the boat or owner information on a sail number. I already know the past owners if Imzadi, but it might be interesting to talk to the owner of Frenzy II of the Whitby Yacht Club in Canada (one of the boats that was in the 1978 Labatt's race along with mine; her sail number is still in the CYA registry) to see if he has any recollections about that race. Looking at the map of regional groups that issue sail numbers causes me to wonder just how many sail numbers get issued for Idaho and western Montana. Curious minds want to know. Rick Brass From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight veinot Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:27 PM To: 'Dennis C.'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail numbering The number that came with the sails, all 12 of them, on my 35 MKII is 12699, also a US number I believe. Judging from all the gear and sails that came with Alianna I would say someone had outfitted her pretty well for racing before I got her. It was not the previous owner so it's hard to find out the history. Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Question
Robert Did you try taking it off the muffler end and attaching to mixing elbow end first, still using detergent, heat etc. Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Abbott Sent: April 10, 2013 6:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Question Background on the question..replaced the muffler and mixing elbow today.first time for me doing this job, second time for my mentor who assistedhe was the more experienced at these tasks, thank godgot to the last part of the job and ran into the old saying, there are no easy jobs. couldn't get the 2 hose to the muffler on the mixing elbow end the mixing elbow has a small 'lip' that is the challenge.went on easy over the lip on the new Vernalift mufflerworked on it until I called quit.put on liquid dish detergent heat gun .put the hose in hot waterclose but close doesn't countcan't get enough leverage to push it up over the lip of the mixing elbowreally frustrating. Before someone says do you have the correct hose sizeyes...2 hard wall marine hose came off. the same is going on.I had to cut the old one off on the mixing elbow side. A smart guy, which I wasn't today, would have put the mixing elbow side hose on in the vice grip on the work bench and not when you are on your side in the engine compartment with little to no leverage. Mixing elbow is not coming off going back to the workbench to get his hose on even if I have to go to a slightly bigger hose. I need some really innovative ideas to stretch the 2 hose to get it over the end of the mixing elbow. Don't tell me to use soap, heat, hot water.tried all of those today.I need a really innovative solution... There is no problem that can't be overcome..help me please! Bob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5736 - Release Date: 04/10/13 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sail numbering
I think you may be correct, she is an old boat, 1974 vintage.I think from Long Island maybe or New York. Sag Harbour NY was on the stern when I found her in Maine Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass Sent: April 10, 2013 7:32 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail numbering 12699 was a number issued by US Sailing (or the USYRU) - probably quite a while ago because US Sailing numbers are up to the 60001-61259 range currently. So the owner who got the number assigned lived in the eastern 2/3 of the US, but not in the lake Huron area, nor near Chesapeake Bay. Out of curiosity I may call US Sailing tomorrow and see if there is a way to look up the boat or owner information on a sail number. I already know the past owners if Imzadi, but it might be interesting to talk to the owner of Frenzy II of the Whitby Yacht Club in Canada (one of the boats that was in the 1978 Labatt's race along with mine; her sail number is still in the CYA registry) to see if he has any recollections about that race. Looking at the map of regional groups that issue sail numbers causes me to wonder just how many sail numbers get issued for Idaho and western Montana. Curious minds want to know. Rick Brass From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight veinot Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:27 PM To: 'Dennis C.'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail numbering The number that came with the sails, all 12 of them, on my 35 MKII is 12699, also a US number I believe. Judging from all the gear and sails that came with Alianna I would say someone had outfitted her pretty well for racing before I got her. It was not the previous owner so it's hard to find out the history. Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5736 - Release Date: 04/10/13 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Question
KY Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Abbott Sent: April 10, 2013 6:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Question Background on the question..replaced the muffler and mixing elbow today.first time for me doing this job, second time for my mentor who assistedhe was the more experienced at these tasks, thank godgot to the last part of the job and ran into the old saying, there are no easy jobs. couldn't get the 2 hose to the muffler on the mixing elbow end the mixing elbow has a small 'lip' that is the challenge.went on easy over the lip on the new Vernalift mufflerworked on it until I called quit.put on liquid dish detergent heat gun .put the hose in hot waterclose but close doesn't countcan't get enough leverage to push it up over the lip of the mixing elbowreally frustrating. Before someone says do you have the correct hose sizeyes...2 hard wall marine hose came off. the same is going on.I had to cut the old one off on the mixing elbow side. A smart guy, which I wasn't today, would have put the mixing elbow side hose on in the vice grip on the work bench and not when you are on your side in the engine compartment with little to no leverage. Mixing elbow is not coming off going back to the workbench to get his hose on even if I have to go to a slightly bigger hose. I need some really innovative ideas to stretch the 2 hose to get it over the end of the mixing elbow. Don't tell me to use soap, heat, hot water.tried all of those today.I need a really innovative solution... There is no problem that can't be overcome..help me please! Bob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5736 - Release Date: 04/10/13 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Question
KY Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Abbott Sent: April 10, 2013 6:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Question Background on the question..replaced the muffler and mixing elbow today.first time for me doing this job, second time for my mentor who assistedhe was the more experienced at these tasks, thank godgot to the last part of the job and ran into the old saying, there are no easy jobs. couldn't get the 2 hose to the muffler on the mixing elbow end the mixing elbow has a small 'lip' that is the challenge.went on easy over the lip on the new Vernalift mufflerworked on it until I called quit.put on liquid dish detergent heat gun .put the hose in hot waterclose but close doesn't countcan't get enough leverage to push it up over the lip of the mixing elbowreally frustrating. Before someone says do you have the correct hose sizeyes...2 hard wall marine hose came off. the same is going on.I had to cut the old one off on the mixing elbow side. A smart guy, which I wasn't today, would have put the mixing elbow side hose on in the vice grip on the work bench and not when you are on your side in the engine compartment with little to no leverage. Mixing elbow is not coming off going back to the workbench to get his hose on even if I have to go to a slightly bigger hose. I need some really innovative ideas to stretch the 2 hose to get it over the end of the mixing elbow. Don't tell me to use soap, heat, hot water.tried all of those today.I need a really innovative solution... There is no problem that can't be overcome..help me please! Bob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5736 - Release Date: 04/10/13 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Fw: Question
Kentucky what?? Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Persuasion Sent: April 10, 2013 8:37 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Fw: Question KY Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Abbott Sent: April 10, 2013 6:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Question Background on the question..replaced the muffler and mixing elbow today.first time for me doing this job, second time for my mentor who assistedhe was the more experienced at these tasks, thank godgot to the last part of the job and ran into the old saying, there are no easy jobs. couldn't get the 2 hose to the muffler on the mixing elbow end the mixing elbow has a small 'lip' that is the challenge.went on easy over the lip on the new Vernalift mufflerworked on it until I called quit.put on liquid dish detergent heat gun .put the hose in hot waterclose but close doesn't countcan't get enough leverage to push it up over the lip of the mixing elbowreally frustrating. Before someone says do you have the correct hose sizeyes...2 hard wall marine hose came off. the same is going on.I had to cut the old one off on the mixing elbow side. A smart guy, which I wasn't today, would have put the mixing elbow side hose on in the vice grip on the work bench and not when you are on your side in the engine compartment with little to no leverage. Mixing elbow is not coming off going back to the workbench to get his hose on even if I have to go to a slightly bigger hose. I need some really innovative ideas to stretch the 2 hose to get it over the end of the mixing elbow. Don't tell me to use soap, heat, hot water.tried all of those today.I need a really innovative solution... There is no problem that can't be overcome..help me please! Bob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5736 - Release Date: 04/10/13 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5736 - Release Date: 04/10/13 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Question
Agreed that was my next suggestion, especially if he can get the hose off the muffler and out of the boat Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Nelson Sent: April 10, 2013 8:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Question Pipe expander used in muffler shops to flare pipe fittings might give you enough stretch. Princess auto:$14.99 http://www.princessauto.com/pal/product/8104416/Exhaust/Medium-Tail-Pipe-Exp ander- Cheers, Jeff Nelson Senior Manager Halifax, NS Ph: 902-880-8243 On 10/04/2013 7:34 PM, dwight veinot wrote: Robert Did you try taking it off the muffler end and attaching to mixing elbow end first, still using detergent, heat etc. Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Abbott Sent: April 10, 2013 6:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Question Background on the question..replaced the muffler and mixing elbow today.first time for me doing this job, second time for my mentor who assistedhe was the more experienced at these tasks, thank godgot to the last part of the job and ran into the old saying, there are no easy jobs. couldn't get the 2 hose to the muffler on the mixing elbow end the mixing elbow has a small 'lip' that is the challenge.went on easy over the lip on the new Vernalift mufflerworked on it until I called quit.put on liquid dish detergent heat gun .put the hose in hot waterclose but close doesn't countcan't get enough leverage to push it up over the lip of the mixing elbowreally frustrating. Before someone says do you have the correct hose sizeyes...2 hard wall marine hose came off. the same is going on.I had to cut the old one off on the mixing elbow side. A smart guy, which I wasn't today, would have put the mixing elbow side hose on in the vice grip on the work bench and not when you are on your side in the engine compartment with little to no leverage. Mixing elbow is not coming off going back to the workbench to get his hose on even if I have to go to a slightly bigger hose. I need some really innovative ideas to stretch the 2 hose to get it over the end of the mixing elbow. Don't tell me to use soap, heat, hot water.tried all of those today.I need a really innovative solution... There is no problem that can't be overcome..help me please! Bob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5736 - Release Date: 04/10/13 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Cheers, Jeff Nelson Muir Caileag CC 30 Armdale Y.C. Halifax _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5736 - Release Date: 04/10/13 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sail numbering
Yah, but that guy is an ... wait, that's me! Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2013-04-10 12:21 PM, Pierre Tremblay wrote: Hi Paul, I had this answer from sculpin on sailinganarchy when I was searching to change ownership of my sail number. Quote: Sail number was assigned to the boat when it was sold, the first two are location identifiers. Totally separate from the HIN (hull identification number), which you will find on the transom, upper stbd. If you are racing you will want to register with the local sailing association, they will want your sail number (since it is hard to see the 5mm high VIN from the finish line!). From an old post on there, here is an explanation of sail number assignment: /First, go to: http://offshore.ussa...ail_Numbers.htm http://offshore.ussailing.org/Sail_Numbers.htm Next, break your sail number into two parts, the first digit and the last four. In Tim's case 8 4033. In the table on the site above, scroll down the first column to the row with 8. Now scroll across in that row to the column with the header block that contains the last four digits. 4033 falls in the 4000-4250 block. At the intersection is CYA. Sail number 84033 was issued by Canadian Yachting Association./ End of quote. My sail number is 54988, which was issued by CYA Pierre Tremblay Avalanche, #54988 CC38-3 WK *De :* Paul Taylor besom_ri...@yahoo.com *À :* cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Envoyé le :* mercredi 10 avril 2013 11h05 *Objet :* Stus-List Sail numbering I have a 1977 29 mk1, are the sail numbers the same as part of the hull number or were the arbitrarily assigned. Sent from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Defender delivery (and a plug for Nexus)
Well, all's well that ends well. It is true that just about every purchase/registration agreement includes a provision for the manufacturer to provide refurbished hardware as new. That has been true for decades. Heck, if they had to burn every return, they would have to factor that into the business model and adjust the retail price accordingly, which would put them out of business because there's always someone ready to make an empty promise to take your money to make a 30/60/90 day objective. Having done upgrades and additions to my Nexus NX-2 system, I (*years ago*) bought a 'multi-display' online and opened the pretty new box to find a beat up old NX-1 part inside. NX-1 had been out of production for years... I called the reseller and expressed my dissatisfaction in brutal terms. It's important to know when to shut up and listen, so I did, and as a result I received a brand new part. I also received RMA instructions, but was so ticked off that I wanted a prepaid UPS voucher because I wasn't going to pay for the return. Never got the voucher, but I kept the old part around for years just in case a Federal Marshall showed up with a subpoena. VBG Anyway, I did want to mention that my Nexus NX-2 system has performed flawlessly for ten years now. I couldn't sail without it. Wal you wrote: Well, They sent me out another unit it is exactly the same... Except, now everything says TackTick instead of Raymarine... If it wasn't for that, I'd have bet it was the same box of stuff... I don't what to say... Why would they open the boxes...it does not make any sense to me... Is the fact that it now says TackTick mean anything... It's just weird... guess I'll stick with this and see if it works... Danny ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List got paint?
Interesting find on the Interlux Paint website today, if you have bought bottom paint from them (as I have) you can get a mail-in rebate. http://www.yachtpaint.com/LiteratureCentre/canada_mir_rebate_form_eng.pdf or http://www.yachtpaint.com/LiteratureCentre/US_MIR_Rebate_Form_HR.pdf Now if I can find that receipt... -- Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting
Lighting looked great Graham, even in the the daylight and could be bright
enough for the main cabin. I may attempt to do an install once I get the bilge
pumped straightened out.
Scott Brown
Breezin’
CC 35-III
Bedford, NS
From: Graham Collins
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 11:21 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting
Jeff is correct, I did use those. I used the 3 ft of the 120 LED/m to replace
1 fluorescent in the ceiling. I think it is very bright, but I may be
biased... Scott saw it in action though, what say you Scott - bright enough
for the main cabin?
I'm sure that other suppliers would be cheaper, I was more looking for a quick
trial so bought local. E-bay is good...
I also stuck the LED strips on a hunk of stainless for heatsinking.
Graham Collins
Secret Plans
CC 35-III #11On 2013-04-09 3:12 PM, Jeffrey Nelson wrote:
Pretty sure Graham used these:
http://www.leevalley.com/en/hardware/page.aspx?cat=3,70322p=70323
On 04/09/13, Bill Coleman mailto:colt...@verizon.net wrote:
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Do you have a link to the LED’s you used?
Bill Coleman
CC 39
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
Fred Hazzard
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 12:46 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting
I put LED strips in place of fluorescents that were on the ceiling
behind defusers. I control them with wireless controllers that dim and turn
them on and off. The LED’s are very bright and being able to dim them
improves the cabin ambiance a lot.
Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
CC 44
Portland, Or
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
Graham Collins
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 5:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting
Switches. I was going to add a dimmer, but have changed my mind.
Graham CollinsSecret PlansCC 35-III #11On 2013-04-05 10:00 AM, Joel Aronson
wrote:
Are people adding in-line switches to the LED strips or just
switching them at the breaker?
Joel
35/3
The Office
Annapolis
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca wrote:
The white 3528 strips work well, good light output and low power.
I have them glued and tie wrapped to a strip of high density foam
board ( about 1/2 wide and 1/4 thick ) that is then screwed in
place. The plastic cover on the strip proved a bit difficult to
glue.
Most of the strips have a power rating per meter, the ones I have
are 4.8 Watts / meter. They are also rated for 12V, but your boat
may have 13.2 to 14.2 volts depending on you charging system. The
LED are fairly sensitive to voltage and could be over driven.
Add a constant current driver, a LED dimmer (also available on eBay)
or a resistor in series. If you expect the highest voltage you will
have on the boat will be 14.5v, then the resistor will need to drop
2.5v at rated current.
The strips I used where a bit under 2/3 of a meter, used about 3.2W
at 12v so required 0.250 amps of current.
To drop 2.5v at 0.250 amps you need a 10 ohm resistor
( Resistance in ohms = Volts / Amps ).
The resistor will need to be rated for 0.625 watts so I used a
1 watt resistor ( about $0.20 from Sayal ).
( Power in Watts = Amps squared * Resistance )
Adding the resistor will dim the LEDs slightly at 12V.
For longer strips where the power to the resistor 1 watt or
were you want the best lighting power a constant current source
is much better. Simple ones are only four components and cost
less than $10 in parts. The dimmers from China are only $8!
http://madscientisthut.com/wordpress/tag/led-current-control/
Mike
CC 30
Windburn
Hi All.
I just volunteered my boat for a test case using these LED strip
lights that are available on ebay cheap out of china. I haven't seen them used
on boats before. They are marketed as being waterproof. There are a few
variations on the LED types with the two most common being SMD 5050 and SMD
3528. The 5050 have triple LEDs so they can be made into any colour, they are
also brighter
Re: Stus-List Question
Dwight: Tried both ends first with liquid detergent, heat gun, hot water, all at once..I wasn't kidding when I said who has got an innovative idea. Haven't been past yours and Rich's yet but Rich has an idea, angle grid the lip off the mixing elbow.the reason the lip is on it is to accidentally prevent the hose from slipping off.a safety thingwell let me assure everyone, when I get it on, it ain't accidentally coming off. Bob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2013/04/10 7:34 PM, dwight veinot wrote: Robert Did you try taking it off the muffler end and attaching to mixing elbow end first, still using detergent, heat etc. Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Abbott Sent: April 10, 2013 6:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Question Background on the question..replaced the muffler and mixing elbow today.first time for me doing this job, second time for my mentor who assistedhe was the more experienced at these tasks, thank godgot to the last part of the job and ran into the old saying, there are no easy jobs. couldn't get the 2 hose to the muffler on the mixing elbow end the mixing elbow has a small 'lip' that is the challenge.went on easy over the lip on the new Vernalift mufflerworked on it until I called quit.put on liquid dish detergent heat gun .put the hose in hot waterclose but close doesn't countcan't get enough leverage to push it up over the lip of the mixing elbowreally frustrating. Before someone says do you have the correct hose sizeyes...2 hard wall marine hose came off. the same is going on.I had to cut the old one off on the mixing elbow side. A smart guy, which I wasn't today, would have put the mixing elbow side hose on in the vice grip on the work bench and not when you are on your side in the engine compartment with little to no leverage. Mixing elbow is not coming off going back to the workbench to get his hose on even if I have to go to a slightly bigger hose. I need some really innovative ideas to stretch the 2 hose to get it over the end of the mixing elbow. Don't tell me to use soap, heat, hot water.tried all of those today.I need a really innovative solution... There is no problem that can't be overcome..help me please! Bob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5736 - Release Date: 04/10/13 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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