Stus-List PC for cheap
Think about this in the context of sailboat ownership. At one time or another, we've all done it. Some of us still do it. We all know that guy down the pier that's raised it to an art form. What? Doing or fixing something on a sailboat on the cheap that does or can lead to less than satisfactory results. Something that may create an unsafe condition that may put crew or family at risk. Something that eventually will need to be done over the right way and end up costing more in the end. So..my question is what clever, imaginative, politically correct phrase describes cheap? I'm talking about literary genius like using deferred success as PC to describe failure. I've considered irresponsibly frugal, excessively thrifty, etc. but I just can't seem to create that aha PC phrase for cheap. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, La Sent from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List java updates
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 21:14:16 -0700 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; w...@wbryant.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I beat you by quite a bit, I started with the PDP-8. ;-) Leslie. now on Maverick because the upgrade is free... On Thu, 5/15/14, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, May 15, 2014, 4:33 PM I drink too much coffee anyway. I think Java is sponsored by Oracle (who bought SunSoft) so don't think it's tied to the Microsoft upgrade program. But I don't know anything anymore, having left all that behind in search of the perfect taco. I do think switching to Linux would be difficult for many people. Heck, it would be difficult for me, and my first computer was a PDP-11 that required me to enter the boot sequence in Hexadecimal by pushing the right buttons in the right order. uh-oh. I have chicken on the barby. Gotta go. Oh me-oh my-oh, wont'cha look at Miss Ohio... Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List java updates
IBM 1130 Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 21:14:16 -0700 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; w...@wbryant.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I beat you by quite a bit, I started with the PDP-8. ;-) Leslie. now on Maverick because the upgrade is free... On Thu, 5/15/14, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, May 15, 2014, 4:33 PM I drink too much coffee anyway. I think Java is sponsored by Oracle (who bought SunSoft) so don't think it's tied to the Microsoft upgrade program. But I don't know anything anymore, having left all that behind in search of the perfect taco. I do think switching to Linux would be difficult for many people. Heck, it would be difficult for me, and my first computer was a PDP-11 that required me to enter the boot sequence in Hexadecimal by pushing the right buttons in the right order. uh-oh. I have chicken on the barby. Gotta go. Oh me-oh my-oh, wont'cha look at Miss Ohio... Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List java updates
Home built computers using RCA chips. Memory cost around $50 for 1 K as I mistily recall and got stuffed into breadboards from the electronics wholesaler. It was a big day when characters appeared in the screen and made a little sense. Rich On May 16, 2014, at 6:33, via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: IBM 1130 Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 21:14:16 -0700 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; w...@wbryant.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I beat you by quite a bit, I started with the PDP-8. ;-) Leslie. now on Maverick because the upgrade is free... On Thu, 5/15/14, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, May 15, 2014, 4:33 PM I drink too much coffee anyway. I think Java is sponsored by Oracle (who bought SunSoft) so don't think it's tied to the Microsoft upgrade program. But I don't know anything anymore, having left all that behind in search of the perfect taco. I do think switching to Linux would be difficult for many people. Heck, it would be difficult for me, and my first computer was a PDP-11 that required me to enter the boot sequence in Hexadecimal by pushing the right buttons in the right order. uh-oh. I have chicken on the barby. Gotta go. Oh me-oh my-oh, wont'cha look at Miss Ohio... Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List java updates
“She wants to do right, but not right now…” Nice. Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit On May 15, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I drink too much coffee anyway. I think Java is sponsored by Oracle (who bought SunSoft) so don't think it's tied to the Microsoft upgrade program. But I don't know anything anymore, having left all that behind in search of the perfect taco. I do think switching to Linux would be difficult for many people. Heck, it would be difficult for me, and my first computer was a PDP-11 that required me to enter the boot sequence in Hexadecimal by pushing the right buttons in the right order. uh-oh. I have chicken on the barby. Gotta go. Oh me-oh my-oh, wont'cha look at Miss Ohio... Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List java updates
Forgot my DP bona fides: KL-10 On May 16, 2014, at 6:19 AM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: “She wants to do right, but not right now…” Nice. Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit On May 15, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I drink too much coffee anyway. I think Java is sponsored by Oracle (who bought SunSoft) so don't think it's tied to the Microsoft upgrade program. But I don't know anything anymore, having left all that behind in search of the perfect taco. I do think switching to Linux would be difficult for many people. Heck, it would be difficult for me, and my first computer was a PDP-11 that required me to enter the boot sequence in Hexadecimal by pushing the right buttons in the right order. uh-oh. I have chicken on the barby. Gotta go. Oh me-oh my-oh, wont'cha look at Miss Ohio... Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List PC for cheap
At flight school we used to call it insulting word for ethnic group engineering. Best example was using foil gum wrapper to fix a break in the shielding on a spark plug wire. Joe Della Barba Coquina -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 3:11 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List PC for cheap Think about this in the context of sailboat ownership. At one time or another, we've all done it. Some of us still do it. We all know that guy down the pier that's raised it to an art form. What? Doing or fixing something on a sailboat on the cheap that does or can lead to less than satisfactory results. Something that may create an unsafe condition that may put crew or family at risk. Something that eventually will need to be done over the right way and end up costing more in the end. So..my question is what clever, imaginative, politically correct phrase describes cheap? I'm talking about literary genius like using deferred success as PC to describe failure. I've considered irresponsibly frugal, excessively thrifty, etc. but I just can't seem to create that aha PC phrase for cheap. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, La Sent from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List java updates
If I install any Linux based OS is that equivalent to reformatting the hard drive. I mean will I lose my MS Office applications and adobe etc if I do that. If I make a separate partition for the Linux OS will I be able to access applications in the Windows XP partition with it? I have lots of hard drive space available. What is the difference between Linux mint versions and Ubuntu? I do important things like banking on my ipad or iphone using iOS7 but I do most email and surfing on my XP machine. I like a full size QWERTY keypad for typing and I like my large monitor and wired mouse control. Is anyone aware of any reports of people getting hacked because they are still using Windows XP? I know quite a few internet users who are still running on Windows XP and personally I have not heard of any issues yet. I update my anti virus software regularly and that software tells me that I am protected and I do full systems scans every day, does that help at all? Marek, do you know if I will affect anything by uninstalling all java programs using add/remove from control panel? _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: May 15, 2014 12:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates As an IT pro I would strongly suggest not having an XP machine exposed to the internet. If you don't want to spend $ for Microsoft I have good luck with this OS. It is free and much easier to use than Windows 8 :-) http://www.linu xmint.com/ Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:52 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List java updates I am still running windows xp sp3 and I recall reading somewhere to avoid Java updates because that might be a source of attack on machines using xp now that Microsoft has stopped supporting that operating system. I like windows xp and I am familiar with using it after so many years: I don't want to change yet but when my computer bites the dust. Right now it is more than adequate for my needs, fast and stable. I continue to receive notices about Java updates but so far I have cancelled all without downloading. Can anyone here advise on that.I am not sure why I need Java but I have Javascript.I do not believe these are the same _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: May 15, 2014 9:50 AM To: Graham Collins; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List help Us Niagara 26 owners never go away even when our boats change ... From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Graham Collins via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 5:33 PM To: Frederick G Street; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List help I know Dan, he is very dapper. And his writing of the log while commodore was first rate... so I guess Rich is correct. Welcome aboard Dan, wasn't sure your intentions when you sold the Niagara... Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-05-14 5:00 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote: Rich - did you just call Dan a dressy scribe?! :^) Go to http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com and follow the instructions for changing your email address; or unsubscribe and *re-subscribe* with the new email address. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On May 14, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Dan. Go to the cncphotoalbum site, unsubscribe an dressy scribe to your new address. Rich ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Original Invoice Prices
Blue Horizon No. 1. 1981 CC 36 I believe Dad said they paid $65,000 in October 1980 + $20,000 to outfit with electronics and sails. $12,000 of that was the Loran-C and the radar. The broker guaranteed that it would hold its value for at least ten years and it did. Current owners are Brian and Nancy Todd who we ski with. Small world Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:16 PM To: Ron's Hardwood; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Original Invoice Prices The best info I have on Calypso's original invoice is from the USCG Abstract of Title. In April of 1971 a mortgage of $110,000 was recorded. I expect this price included sails, instruments, and other commissioning costs. The boat was named Arieto and is hull #1 of the Limited Edition 43' designs. It was raced in the 1971 SORC as a CC factory boat then sold off soundings to the owner that campaigned the 43' Arieto extensively up and down the US east coast. Somewhere around 1975/76 the boat was listed for sale with a price of $97,000, well equipped for racing but with high mileage. From the USCG abstract it appears that she was traded in to Palmer Johnson in December 1976. I have seen references to the original owner campaigning a Frers 46 in the late 70's under the same name, Arieto. In 1978 the 43 was sold by Palmer Johnson to an owner on Lake Michigan and renamed Phantom. No price is indicated. In 1986 the 43 was sold to an owner racing out of Chicago and renamed Esta Es. I guess the price was between $75K and $80K based on some references to mortgages. We bought the 43 in December 1998 for +-$67K, trucked her to Seattle and renamed her Calypso. Ask me about a current value after we complete the ongoing deck restoration projects. The asking price range for CC 43's of this vintage run from $49K un-restored to $180K for a very nice fully updated boat. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ron's Hardwood via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 7:10 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Original Invoice Prices I would like to hear from some of the owners of the older CC boats to find out the original invoice prices of their boats. I think that it will be very interesting for us to go back in time and compare the original prices to today's current value to see the actual depreciation over a long period of time. I just received my third survey on Alchemist, a 1986 CC 29 Mk 2. 14 years ago it was valued at $40,000.00, 6 years ago $24,000.00 and today $18,000.00. The interesting thing is that I put in about $15,000.00 over the last few years in new sails, feathering propeller, instruments, rebuilt engine and transmission, and other incidentals. My cost per sail is actually quite reasonable. If I take into consideration my annual club costs, repairs maintenance, insurance, replacement of racing sails, fuel, depreciation, etc. divided by the number of sails a year (about 65 times) my costs are about $100.00 per sail. There are many boats on the lake that only leave the dock a few times a year with costs that are similar to mine so their cost per sail is significantly higher. Ron Ander E.Y.C. Toronto __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9803 (20140515) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Original Invoice Prices
CC 29-2 Sold new through New York Yacht Sales, Bay Shore, NY in 1986 for $46,309 plus $2,394.49 tax. CCY29700H586. John McLaughlin Falcon -Original Message- From: Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Ron's Hardwood r...@hardwoodflooringstore.com; cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thu, May 15, 2014 7:40 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Original Invoice Prices According to the original invoice, Touché, 1971 35 sold new for $18760 USD in September 1971. At one point it had $62,400 mortgage on it. I bought it in 1999 for $10 under original invoice. Last condition and value survey was $40,000. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone On May 15, 2014, at 9:09 AM, Ron's Hardwood via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I would like to hear from some of the owners of the olderCC boats to find out the original invoice prices of their boats. I thinkthat it will be very interesting for us to go back in time and compare the originalprices to today’s current value to see the actual depreciation over along period of time. I just received my third survey on Alchemist, a 1986 CC29 Mk 2. 14 years ago it was valued at $40,000.00, 6 years ago $24,000.00 andtoday $18,000.00. The interesting thing is that I put in about $15,000.00 overthe last few years in new sails, feathering propeller, instruments, rebuiltengine and transmission, and other incidentals. My cost per sail is actually quite reasonable. If I takeinto consideration my annual club costs, repairs maintenance, insurance, replacementof racing sails, fuel, depreciation, etc. divided by the number of sailsa year (about 65 times) my costs are about $100.00 per sail. There are manyboats on the lake that only leave the dock a few times a year with costs thatare similar to mine so their cost per sail is significantly higher. Ron Ander E.Y.C. Toronto __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9803 (20140515) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List java updates
ENIAC? -Original Message- From: Leslie Paal via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 12:14 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com ; w...@wbryant.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates I beat you by quite a bit, I started with the PDP-8. ;-) Leslie. now on Maverick because the upgrade is free... On Thu, 5/15/14, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, May 15, 2014, 4:33 PM I drink too much coffee anyway. I think Java is sponsored by Oracle (who bought SunSoft) so don't think it's tied to the Microsoft upgrade program. But I don't know anything anymore, having left all that behind in search of the perfect taco. I do think switching to Linux would be difficult for many people. Heck, it would be difficult for me, and my first computer was a PDP-11 that required me to enter the boot sequence in Hexadecimal by pushing the right buttons in the right order. uh-oh. I have chicken on the barby. Gotta go. Oh me-oh my-oh, wont'cha look at Miss Ohio... Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List java updates
Switching to Linux is *EASIER* than switching to Windows 8. I put Mint on a laptop for my wife, who is NOT an IT person, and it took her about 5 seconds to learn. Mint uses a GUI that is as close to Windows 7 as can be and far easier to use than 8. I had to get rid of Windows 8 on a new laptop for my son because of driver issues. It now dual boots to 7 and Mint. Mint was very easy to load, but 7 took a couple days to hunt down all the drivers :( For an added bonus, Mint can run from the boot media, so you can try it before you install it. Joe Della Barba Coquina -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 8:58 AM To: Leslie Paal; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates ENIAC? -Original Message- From: Leslie Paal via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 12:14 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com ; w...@wbryant.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates I beat you by quite a bit, I started with the PDP-8. ;-) Leslie. now on Maverick because the upgrade is free... On Thu, 5/15/14, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, May 15, 2014, 4:33 PM I drink too much coffee anyway. I think Java is sponsored by Oracle (who bought SunSoft) so don't think it's tied to the Microsoft upgrade program. But I don't know anything anymore, having left all that behind in search of the perfect taco. I do think switching to Linux would be difficult for many people. Heck, it would be difficult for me, and my first computer was a PDP-11 that required me to enter the boot sequence in Hexadecimal by pushing the right buttons in the right order. uh-oh. I have chicken on the barby. Gotta go. Oh me-oh my-oh, wont'cha look at Miss Ohio... Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List java updates
Everything Joe said about Mint is basically the same for Ubuntu. Both can be downloaded for free and run from a CD so I suggest trying both. Ubuntu tries to advertise that they have better long term support and regular periodic updates, but who knows. As easy as they both are it probably doesn't matter. With a linux application called wine you can run some windows applications but planning on a dual boot is your best bet. I regulary switch between XP and Ubuntu defaulting to Ubuntu for speed and security. There are fewer and fewer reasons for me to use XP but occasionally I just need that one legacy application. Josh On May 16, 2014 9:05 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Switching to Linux is *EASIER* than switching to Windows 8. I put Mint on a laptop for my wife, who is NOT an IT person, and it took her about 5 seconds to learn. Mint uses a GUI that is as close to Windows 7 as can be and far easier to use than 8. I had to get rid of Windows 8 on a new laptop for my son because of driver issues. It now dual boots to 7 and Mint. Mint was very easy to load, but 7 took a couple days to hunt down all the drivers :( For an added bonus, Mint can run from the boot media, so you can try it before you install it. Joe Della Barba Coquina ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List java updates
Great machine and 1800s are still in use. Not all of them were quite so reliable in 65 when I started on tab machines and computers. Now to bring things back to at least marine related. IBM had one of the less reliable in a unit record machine 557 that if you filled with concrete and threw it overboard it would only sink intermittently. Don Newman CC 44 On May 16, 2014, at 5:33, via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: IBM 1130 Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 21:14:16 -0700 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; w...@wbryant.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I beat you by quite a bit, I started with the PDP-8. ;-) Leslie. now on Maverick because the upgrade is free... On Thu, 5/15/14, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, May 15, 2014, 4:33 PM I drink too much coffee anyway. I think Java is sponsored by Oracle (who bought SunSoft) so don't think it's tied to the Microsoft upgrade program. But I don't know anything anymore, having left all that behind in search of the perfect taco. I do think switching to Linux would be difficult for many people. Heck, it would be difficult for me, and my first computer was a PDP-11 that required me to enter the boot sequence in Hexadecimal by pushing the right buttons in the right order. uh-oh. I have chicken on the barby. Gotta go. Oh me-oh my-oh, wont'cha look at Miss Ohio... Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List PC for cheap
Haywire - perhaps a little dated now, as in gone haywire, Close enough for farm use, a couple of my favourites. But for boats, flakey should be the correct term. Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 02:10:47 -0500 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List PC for cheap From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Think about this in the context of sailboat ownership. At one time or another, we've all done it. Some of us still do it. We all know that guy down the pier that's raised it to an art form. What? Doing or fixing something on a sailboat on the cheap that does or can lead to less than satisfactory results. Something that may create an unsafe condition that may put crew or family at risk. Something that eventually will need to be done over the right way and end up costing more in the end. So..my question is what clever, imaginative, politically correct phrase describes cheap? I'm talking about literary genius like using deferred success as PC to describe failure. I've considered irresponsibly frugal, excessively thrifty, etc. but I just can't seem to create that aha PC phrase for cheap. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, La Sent from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List PC for cheap
If you live around Annapolis,, then Weems Creek Engineering says it all LOL. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 10:06 AM To: Stews List Subject: Re: Stus-List PC for cheap Haywire - perhaps a little dated now, as in gone haywire, Close enough for farm use, a couple of my favourites. But for boats, flakey should be the correct term. Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 02:10:47 -0500 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List PC for cheap From: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Think about this in the context of sailboat ownership. At one time or another, we've all done it. Some of us still do it. We all know that guy down the pier that's raised it to an art form. What? Doing or fixing something on a sailboat on the cheap that does or can lead to less than satisfactory results. Something that may create an unsafe condition that may put crew or family at risk. Something that eventually will need to be done over the right way and end up costing more in the end. So..my question is what clever, imaginative, politically correct phrase describes cheap? I'm talking about literary genius like using deferred success as PC to describe failure. I've considered irresponsibly frugal, excessively thrifty, etc. but I just can't seem to create that aha PC phrase for cheap. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, La Sent from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Why via?
There are so many problems with Yahoo that perhaps the listers using them should consider changing instead of inconveniencing you and others. Rich On May 16, 2014, at 11:29, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Why do my replies to the list show up as being from via CnC-List in stead of from yours truly? What am I doing wrong? Something has gone haywire. It’s a work-around fix for Yahoo’s DMARC problems. Stu ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List removing prop shaft coupling - how?
I need to replace the stuffing box hose. Boat (30-1) is on the hard and I have the new Buck Algonquin hose, new packing, new clamps. Anyone have advice re removal of the forward prop shaft coupling? It is disconnected from the transmission and I've pulled the prop shaft aft, so there is some clearance between the couplings. The pbase website suggests that these couplings may be press fit (as in machine shop press) PB blaster applied, light taps with mallet do nothing so far, considering heating it with a torch? Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marine Lake Superior (with floating ice chunks mid-May.!) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Why via?
I don't use Yahoo. My ISP is sympatico, which uses the Microsoft Hotmail (live.com) server. I see everyone else's names, is it just mine that appears this way? Is there something I can do to fix this? Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 11:41:49 -0300 To: stumurra...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Why via? From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com There are so many problems with Yahoo that perhaps the listers using them should consider changing instead of inconveniencing you and others. Rich On May 16, 2014, at 11:29, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Why do my replies to the list show up as being from via CnC-List in stead of from yours truly? What am I doing wrong? Something has gone haywire. It’s a work-around fix for Yahoo’s DMARC problems. Stu ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Why via?
Steve You are Special. Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 12:03 PM To: Stews List Subject: Re: Stus-List Why via? I don't use Yahoo. My ISP is sympatico, which uses the Microsoft Hotmail (live.com) server. I see everyone else's names, is it just mine that appears this way? Is there something I can do to fix this? Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 11:41:49 -0300 To: stumurra...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Why via? From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com There are so many problems with Yahoo that perhaps the listers using them should consider changing instead of inconveniencing you and others. Rich On May 16, 2014, at 11:29, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Why do my replies to the list show up as being from via CnC-List in stead of from yours truly? What am I doing wrong? Something has gone haywire. It's a work-around fix for Yahoo's DMARC problems. Stu ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List removing prop shaft coupling - how?
Some people have had success by positioning a nut that is smaller than the prop shaft, in between the coupling and then using the coupling bolts to force the prop shaft out. A suitable piece of sheet metal on the transmission side will ensure that the right shaft gets dislodged. Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 09:52:13 -0500 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List removing prop shaft coupling - how? From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I need to replace the stuffing box hose. Boat (30-1) is on the hard and I have the new Buck Algonquin hose, new packing, new clamps. Anyone have advice re removal of the forward prop shaft coupling? It is disconnected from the transmission and I've pulled the prop shaft aft, so there is some clearance between the couplings. The pbase website suggests that these couplings may be press fit (as in machine shop press) PB blaster applied, light taps with mallet do nothing so far, considering heating it with a torch? NateSarah Jean1980 30-1Siskiwit Bay MarineLake Superior(with floating ice chunks mid-May.!) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Securing mast to step
That pretty much describes how the factory did it on our 37. To be more exact, in our case it is a Ushaped bracket that is bolted down to the metal mast step. The tangs of this bracket stick up about 8. The mast slips over this when the mast is set into the boat, so the bracket is hidden up inside the base of the mast. A 1/2 S/S bolt passes through the mast, through holes in each tang and out the other side of the mast where there is nyloc nut to keep it in place. I think the bracket is made of aluminium and came from Offshore Spars with the mast and step when the boat was built. Ken H. On 16 May 2014 10:37, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.comwrote: I need to secure the keel stepped mast to the step to comply with the offshore sailing regs. The mast sits in the base about 1.5 inches. I'm thinking of bolting 2 short tangs to the base and running a bolt or threaded rod through the mast and tangs. Luckily, the wires exit at the cabin top, so they are safe. Thoughts? Recommendations? -- Joel 35/3 Annapolis 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List removing prop shaft coupling - how?
Then to save the trouble next time, get a split coupling for the shaft. On May 16, 2014 11:10 AM, via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Some people have had success by positioning a nut that is smaller than the prop shaft, in between the coupling and then using the coupling bolts to force the prop shaft out. A suitable piece of sheet metal on the transmission side will ensure that the right shaft gets dislodged. Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII -- Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 09:52:13 -0500 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List removing prop shaft coupling - how? From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I need to replace the stuffing box hose. Boat (30-1) is on the hard and I have the new Buck Algonquin hose, new packing, new clamps. Anyone have advice re removal of the forward prop shaft coupling? It is disconnected from the transmission and I've pulled the prop shaft aft, so there is some clearance between the couplings. The pbase website suggests that these couplings may be press fit (as in machine shop press) PB blaster applied, light taps with mallet do nothing so far, considering heating it with a torch? Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marine Lake Superior (with floating ice chunks mid-May.!) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List removing prop shaft coupling - how?
Nate, This has come up before. I think the best advice (not mine) was to put a socket slightly smaller than the shaft against the end of the shaft and tighten the bolts on the coupling to force out the shaft. Joel. On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I need to replace the stuffing box hose. Boat (30-1) is on the hard and I have the new Buck Algonquin hose, new packing, new clamps. Anyone have advice re removal of the forward prop shaft coupling? It is disconnected from the transmission and I've pulled the prop shaft aft, so there is some clearance between the couplings. The pbase website suggests that these couplings may be press fit (as in machine shop press) PB blaster applied, light taps with mallet do nothing so far, considering heating it with a torch? Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marine Lake Superior (with floating ice chunks mid-May.!) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Why via? - yahoo breaks email lists
I think it would be reasonable to ban yahoo email accounts from the list. This is not the first time yahoo has done something to break everybody else's lists. I'm using an sbcglobal email address, which is operated through yahoo. I would have no real problem getting a gmail account and re-subscribing if that would help Stu and make the list more stable. Here is an article with some background on the issue: http://tech-beta.slashdot.org/story/14/04/09/2047205/yahoo-dmarc-implementation-breaks-most-mailing-lists Bill Bina On 5/16/2014 11:07 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: Steve You are Special. Mike *From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *via CnC-List *Sent:* Friday, May 16, 2014 12:03 PM *To:* Stews List *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Why via? I don't use Yahoo. My ISP is sympatico, which uses the Microsoft Hotmail (live.com) server. I see everyone else's names, is it just mine that appears this way? Is there something I can do to fix this? Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Why via? - yahoo breaks email lists
I had problems with gmail so I switched back to yahoo. Would prefer to stay there. From: Bill Bina via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:22:29 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Why via? - yahoo breaks email lists I think it would be reasonable to ban yahoo email accounts from the list. This is not the first time yahoo has done something to break everybody else's lists. I'm using an sbcglobal email address, which is operated through yahoo. I would have no real problem getting a gmail account and re-subscribing if that would help Stu and make the list more stable. Here is an article with some background on the issue: http://tech-beta.slashdot.org/story/14/04/09/2047205/yahoo-dmarc-implementation-breaks-most-mailing-lists Bill Bina On 5/16/2014 11:07 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: Steve You are Special. Mike From:CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 12:03 PM To: Stews List Subject: Re: Stus-List Why via? I don't use Yahoo. My ISP is sympatico, which uses the Microsoft Hotmail (live.com) server. I see everyone else's names, is it just mine that appears this way? Is there something I can do to fix this? Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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The header on all list emails has been change to “via cnc-list”. It is a fix in our software that circumvents Yahoo’s DMARC installation. So far it is working. Since the change, we have not had 1 subscriber bounced – including those with Yahoo accounts. You will also notice that at the bottom of each email is a link where you can change your email preferences including unsubscribing. Stu BACK TO SAILING !___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List java updates
You are too young, by at least 10 years ;-) Leslie DP training started on punch-card sorting machines... On Fri, 5/16/14, Dave Godwin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates To: Dave Godwin dave.god...@me.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Friday, May 16, 2014, 3:22 AM Forgot my DP bona fides: KL-10 On May 16, 2014, at 6:19 AM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: “She wants to do right, but not right now…” Nice. Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake BayRonin’s Overdue Refit On May 15, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I drink too much coffee anyway. I think Java is sponsored by Oracle (who bought SunSoft) so don't think it's tied to the Microsoft upgrade program. But I don't know anything anymore, having left all that behind in search of the perfect taco. I do think switching to Linux would be difficult for many people. Heck, it would be difficult for me, and my first computer was a PDP-11 that required me to enter the boot sequence in Hexadecimal by pushing the right buttons in the right order. uh-oh. I have chicken on the barby. Gotta go. Oh me-oh my-oh, wont'cha look at Miss Ohio... Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List removing prop shaft coupling - how?
Can be a tough job. On Windburn I pulled the shaft a couple of years ago ensure it could be removed in the water if it every was required. On my CC 30-1 the dimensions are: Shaft - 7/8 diameter Coupling - 3 1/2 outside diameter, three bolt holes Coupling - 1 5/8 inside machined cavity - 5/8 deep I had to use the bolts on the coupling to break the shaft free. I made up a spacer with 5 heavy washers, 1 7/16 outside diameter and 1/2 hole. I put a 1 1/2 long bolt through it and a nut just flush with the bolt end. Outside diameter of the bolt head and nut was just under 7/8. The assembly mated squarely with both the shaft and back of the engine and the washers held everything in position. The shaft was noticeably frozen in place. I had cleaned and oiled the coupling bolts and they still required significant torque to get the shaft moving. I think the use of a socket is fine as long as you can be 100% sure it is in place and the forces are not too high. I believe the problem I was having may have been caused by the set screw forcing a lip of metal up that was binding all the way out. I drilled a small depression into the shaft after it was out and made a matching round on the front of the set screw. I did a trial fit with the set screw tightened. When I took it apart by hand a firm pull and taps from a plastic mallet was enough. Two years later ( last winter ) I pulled the shaft and replaced the stuffing. Shaft came out without any requirement of special language this time. I am impressed by the Johnson Duramax stuffing. Previously the slightest tightening of the stuffing box stopped all water flow, and the most minute loosening that I could do would drip constantly even at rest. The new stuffing allows a range of drip rates to be adjusted. Michael Brown Windburn CC 30-1 Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 11:16:39 -0400 From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Nate Flesness nateflesn...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List removing prop shaft coupling - how? Message-ID: CAEL16P_Y-sXjpmoJk9GwLmfu_Pi3=Yxjuzouz=1yvpjvnul...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Nate, This has come up before. I think the best advice (not mine) was to put a socket slightly smaller than the shaft against the end of the shaft and tighten the bolts on the coupling to force out the shaft. Joel. On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I need to replace the stuffing box hose. Boat (30-1) is on the hard and I have the new Buck Algonquin hose, new packing, new clamps. Anyone have advice re removal of the forward prop shaft coupling? It is disconnected from the transmission and I've pulled the prop shaft aft, so there is some clearance between the couplings. The pbase website suggests that these couplings may be press fit (as in machine shop press) PB blaster applied, light taps with mallet do nothing so far, considering heating it with a torch? Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marine Lake Superior (with floating ice chunks mid-May.!) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 * ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List java updates
Come on, kids IBM punch cards, followed by a 1401 card system, 1440, then 1130. Gary (retired IBM) - Original Message - From: via CnC-List To: Leslie Paal ; Stews List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 5:33 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates IBM 1130 Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 21:14:16 -0700 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; w...@wbryant.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I beat you by quite a bit, I started with the PDP-8. ;-) Leslie. now on Maverick because the upgrade is free... On Thu, 5/15/14, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, May 15, 2014, 4:33 PM I drink too much coffee anyway. I think Java is sponsored by Oracle (who bought SunSoft) so don't think it's tied to the Microsoft upgrade program. But I don't know anything anymore, having left all that behind in search of the perfect taco. I do think switching to Linux would be difficult for many people. Heck, it would be difficult for me, and my first computer was a PDP-11 that required me to enter the boot sequence in Hexadecimal by pushing the right buttons in the right order. uh-oh. I have chicken on the barby. Gotta go. Oh me-oh my-oh, wont'cha look at Miss Ohio... Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Come on, kids IBM punch cards, followed by a 1401 card system, 1440, then 1130. How about: DR, Sextant, RDF, LORAN, Sat Nav, GPS ... Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 10:18 AM To: sthom...@sympatico.ca; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates Come on, kids IBM punch cards, followed by a 1401 card system, 1440, then 1130. Gary (retired IBM) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I'll raise you DR from Cape May to Newport on a wooden ketch with a kerosene stove and an AM marine radio. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 1:27 PM To: Gary Nylander; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates Come on, kids IBM punch cards, followed by a 1401 card system, 1440, then 1130. How about: DR, Sextant, RDF, LORAN, Sat Nav, GPS ... Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [cid:image001.png@01CF710B.80E78830] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 10:18 AM To: sthom...@sympatico.camailto:sthom...@sympatico.ca; cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates Come on, kids IBM punch cards, followed by a 1401 card system, 1440, then 1130. Gary (retired IBM) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I'll call that. Marina Del Rey to Ensenada on a Kettenburg 41 with the same 'electronics'. Gary - Original Message - From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates I'll raise you DR from Cape May to Newport on a wooden ketch with a kerosene stove and an AM marine radio. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 1:27 PM To: Gary Nylander; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates Come on, kids IBM punch cards, followed by a 1401 card system, 1440, then 1130. How about: DR, Sextant, RDF, LORAN, Sat Nav, GPS . Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 10:18 AM To: sthom...@sympatico.ca; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates Come on, kids IBM punch cards, followed by a 1401 card system, 1440, then 1130. Gary (retired IBM) -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List removing prop shaft coupling - how?
a word of caution – be very careful with how you tighten the nuts. It never happened to me, but I read of people who managed to deform the coupling (on the transmission) in the process. Marek From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:16 AM To: Nate Flesness ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List removing prop shaft coupling - how? Nate, This has come up before. I think the best advice (not mine) was to put a socket slightly smaller than the shaft against the end of the shaft and tighten the bolts on the coupling to force out the shaft. Joel. On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I need to replace the stuffing box hose. Boat (30-1) is on the hard and I have the new Buck Algonquin hose, new packing, new clamps. Anyone have advice re removal of the forward prop shaft coupling? It is disconnected from the transmission and I've pulled the prop shaft aft, so there is some clearance between the couplings. The pbase website suggests that these couplings may be press fit (as in machine shop press) PB blaster applied, light taps with mallet do nothing so far, considering heating it with a torch? Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marine Lake Superior (with floating ice chunks mid-May.!) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Not THAT kind - the kind that had tubes and was a transceiver. They transmitted AM between 2 and 3 MHz. I think they were technically illegal when we did that trip, but the USCG still monitored 2182 KHz. I think even to this day marine SSB sets have an AM equivalent mode for 2182 even though the AM sets that would need this to communicate are decades gone. Anyone remember the telephone pole insulators in the backstay for the AM sets? Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 2:00 PM To: Gary Nylander; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List bragging on how old we are... [was java updates] At least you could use the AM radio as a RDF in a pinch... :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On May 16, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I'll call that. Marina Del Rey to Ensenada on a Kettenburg 41 with the same 'electronics'. Gary - Original Message - From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-Listmailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates I'll raise you DR from Cape May to Newport on a wooden ketch with a kerosene stove and an AM marine radio. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 1:27 PM To: Gary Nylander; cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates Come on, kids IBM punch cards, followed by a 1401 card system, 1440, then 1130. How about: DR, Sextant, RDF, LORAN, Sat Nav, GPS ... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List removing prop shaft coupling - how?
Maine Sail has written about this: http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/new_shaft Ken H. On 16 May 2014 12:16, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.comwrote: Then to save the trouble next time, get a split coupling for the shaft. On May 16, 2014 11:10 AM, via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Some people have had success by positioning a nut that is smaller than the prop shaft, in between the coupling and then using the coupling bolts to force the prop shaft out. A suitable piece of sheet metal on the transmission side will ensure that the right shaft gets dislodged. Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII -- Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 09:52:13 -0500 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List removing prop shaft coupling - how? From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I need to replace the stuffing box hose. Boat (30-1) is on the hard and I have the new Buck Algonquin hose, new packing, new clamps. Anyone have advice re removal of the forward prop shaft coupling? It is disconnected from the transmission and I've pulled the prop shaft aft, so there is some clearance between the couplings. The pbase website suggests that these couplings may be press fit (as in machine shop press) PB blaster applied, light taps with mallet do nothing so far, considering heating it with a torch? Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marine Lake Superior (with floating ice chunks mid-May.!) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Slide rule. Remember the maneuvering board for navigation? All manual with circular slide rules built in. Ron CC 30 STL PS Checking whether the fixes work with yahoo. Come on, kids IBM punch cards, followed by a 1401 card system, 1440, then 1130. Gary (retired IBM) - Original Message - From: via CnC-List To: Leslie Paal ; Stews List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 5:33 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates IBM 1130 Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 21:14:16 -0700 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; w...@wbryant.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I beat you by quite a bit, I started with the PDP-8. ;-) Leslie. now on Maverick because the upgrade is free... On Thu, 5/15/14, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, May 15, 2014, 4:33 PM I drink too much coffee anyway. I think Java is sponsored by Oracle (who bought SunSoft) so don't think it's tied to the Microsoft upgrade program. But I don't know anything anymore, having left all that behind in search of the perfect taco. I do think switching to Linux would be difficult for many people. Heck, it would be difficult for me, and my first computer was a PDP-11 that required me to enter the boot sequence in Hexadecimal by pushing the right buttons in the right order. uh-oh. I have chicken on the barby. Gotta go. Oh me-oh my-oh, wont'cha look at Miss Ohio... Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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did you have a paddlewheel log (or taffrail log) or used the manual chip log for your speed? Marek From: Gary Nylander via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 1:37 PM To: Della Barba, Joe ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates I'll call that. Marina Del Rey to Ensenada on a Kettenburg 41 with the same 'electronics'. Gary - Original Message - From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates Ill raise you DR from Cape May to Newport on a wooden ketch with a kerosene stove and an AM marine radio. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 1:27 PM To: Gary Nylander; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates Come on, kids IBM punch cards, followed by a 1401 card system, 1440, then 1130. How about: DR, Sextant, RDF, LORAN, Sat Nav, GPS Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 10:18 AM To: sthom...@sympatico.ca; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates Come on, kids IBM punch cards, followed by a 1401 card system, 1440, then 1130. Gary (retired IBM) -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Leslie Paal via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: You are too young, by at least 10 years ;-) That's 2 in decimal. Back in the day, We programmed in 1's and 0's. Well, we had to program in 1's We only had el's (From an old Dilbert) Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL (Tcl still putting bread on my table) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Is it still winter up there? Just waiting for hurricane season to kick in so I can ride the southerlies out of the zone. Wal you wrote: Switching to Linux is*EASIER* than switching to Windows 8. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List removing prop shaft coupling - how?
I used a 3 arm puller, PB blaster, a blowtorch, and the largest wrench I could fit on the puller, with a pipe on that as an extension. I had a 12 adjustable wrench wedged in to keep the shaft from turning (the puller would have turned with it). The adjustable wrench now has a very impressive bend to it, and it took a fair bit of heat and force to get off. Hopefully yours isn't that difficult. And as Mainsail says in his blog, easiest way is to cut it off... if time is money, go that route. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-05-16 11:52 AM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List wrote: I need to replace the stuffing box hose. Boat (30-1) is on the hard and I have the new Buck Algonquin hose, new packing, new clamps. Anyone have advice re removal of the forward prop shaft coupling? It is disconnected from the transmission and I've pulled the prop shaft aft, so there is some clearance between the couplings. The pbase website suggests that these couplings may be press fit (as in machine shop press) PB blaster applied, light taps with mallet do nothing so far, considering heating it with a torch? Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marine Lake Superior (with floating ice chunks mid-May.!) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Geez Missed the 088 card sorter . I may still have a programming manual for the 1130 and 1800 .. Paul Fountain Managing Director SeaSource Inc. Bookkeeping IT Services. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander via CnC-List Sent: May 16, 2014 1:18 PM To: sthom...@sympatico.ca; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates Come on, kids IBM punch cards, followed by a 1401 card system, 1440, then 1130. Gary (retired IBM) - Original Message - From: via CnC-Listmailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Leslie Paalmailto:lpaalc...@yahoo.com ; Stews Listmailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 5:33 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates IBM 1130 Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 21:14:16 -0700 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com; w...@wbryant.commailto:w...@wbryant.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates From: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com I beat you by quite a bit, I started with the PDP-8. ;-) Leslie. now on Maverick because the upgrade is free... On Thu, 5/15/14, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, May 15, 2014, 4:33 PM I drink too much coffee anyway. I think Java is sponsored by Oracle (who bought SunSoft) so don't think it's tied to the Microsoft upgrade program. But I don't know anything anymore, having left all that behind in search of the perfect taco. I do think switching to Linux would be difficult for many people. Heck, it would be difficult for me, and my first computer was a PDP-11 that required me to enter the boot sequence in Hexadecimal by pushing the right buttons in the right order. uh-oh. I have chicken on the barby. Gotta go. Oh me-oh my-oh, wont'cha look at Miss Ohio... Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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This photo was taken yesterday at my marina: My launch date is now in mid-June... Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On May 16, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Is it still winter up there? Just waiting for hurricane season to kick in so I can ride the southerlies out of the zone. Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List removing prop shaft coupling - how?
If all else fails, cut it in half and buy a new one. :) Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone On May 16, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I used a 3 arm puller, PB blaster, a blowtorch, and the largest wrench I could fit on the puller, with a pipe on that as an extension. I had a 12 adjustable wrench wedged in to keep the shaft from turning (the puller would have turned with it). The adjustable wrench now has a very impressive bend to it, and it took a fair bit of heat and force to get off. Hopefully yours isn't that difficult. And as Mainsail says in his blog, easiest way is to cut it off... if time is money, go that route. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-05-16 11:52 AM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List wrote: I need to replace the stuffing box hose. Boat (30-1) is on the hard and I have the new Buck Algonquin hose, new packing, new clamps. Anyone have advice re removal of the forward prop shaft coupling? It is disconnected from the transmission and I've pulled the prop shaft aft, so there is some clearance between the couplings. The pbase website suggests that these couplings may be press fit (as in machine shop press) PB blaster applied, light taps with mallet do nothing so far, considering heating it with a torch? Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marine Lake Superior (with floating ice chunks mid-May.!) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Ouch. I just got back from a couple of days on the boat. I had to stay down below for much of the afternoon yesterday with fans running because of the oppressive heat and lack of wind. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 16 May 2014 13:52, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This photo was taken yesterday at my marina: My launch date is now in mid-June... Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On May 16, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Is it still winter up there? Just waiting for hurricane season to kick in so I can ride the southerlies out of the zone. Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List java updates
It's nice here in St. Margaret's Bay...nice to see sails on the Bay again...I don't launch Alianna until 18 June so my season will be shorter this year but I like the warm days in May and early June on land now that I am older with so many years of early season sailing behind me -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally Bryant via CnC-List Sent: May 16, 2014 4:46 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates Is it still winter up there? Just waiting for hurricane season to kick in so I can ride the southerlies out of the zone. Wal you wrote: Switching to Linux is*EASIER* than switching to Windows 8. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List removing prop shaft coupling - how?
I’m getting set up to do the same thing and from my investigations and discussions with local marine mechanics, I’ve determined: 1) The coupling would be a tolerance fit. 2) Cutting the old coupling off is the quickest method and you should do that at the keyway to minimize the potential for scoring the shaft itself. Otherwise a plate made-up with the same bolt pattern as the coupling and a rachet socket placed between the plate and the coupling + bolts through the plate and coupling can be used to press the coupling off. 3) Regardless of how you take it off, replace the coupling and take the shaft and new coupling it to a machinist to have a fit-and-face done on it and the shaft checked for straightness. 4) Might as well plan on doing the cutlass bearing at the same time. An old coupling would not have a tight fit on the shaft and the shaft torque would be taken up only by the shaft key shear that and the shaft backs out of the stuffing box and then you’d get to test out how good your bilge pump is. Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 2:01 PM To: Graham Collins ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List removing prop shaft coupling - how? If all else fails, cut it in half and buy a new one. :) Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone On May 16, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I used a 3 arm puller, PB blaster, a blowtorch, and the largest wrench I could fit on the puller, with a pipe on that as an extension. I had a 12 adjustable wrench wedged in to keep the shaft from turning (the puller would have turned with it). The adjustable wrench now has a very impressive bend to it, and it took a fair bit of heat and force to get off. Hopefully yours isn't that difficult. And as Mainsail says in his blog, easiest way is to cut it off... if time is money, go that route. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11On 2014-05-16 11:52 AM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List wrote: I need to replace the stuffing box hose. Boat (30-1) is on the hard and I have the new Buck Algonquin hose, new packing, new clamps. Anyone have advice re removal of the forward prop shaft coupling? It is disconnected from the transmission and I've pulled the prop shaft aft, so there is some clearance between the couplings. The pbase website suggests that these couplings may be press fit (as in machine shop press) PB blaster applied, light taps with mallet do nothing so far, considering heating it with a torch? Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marine Lake Superior (with floating ice chunks mid-May.!) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List PC for cheap
DYI - Damn Yankee Ingenuity. We CCers have tremendous platforms for tinkering - old but solid design and construction. And, aesthetically correct. Some like to tinker moving cars and travellers. Others change rudders, rigs and keels. It's all fun. Maybe you're thinking about something like the Bic Butane Propane Detector. Now that's a dumb one. :-) Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:10 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Think about this in the context of sailboat ownership. At one time or another, we've all done it. Some of us still do it. We all know that guy down the pier that's raised it to an art form. What? Doing or fixing something on a sailboat on the cheap that does or can lead to less than satisfactory results. Something that may create an unsafe condition that may put crew or family at risk. Something that eventually will need to be done over the right way and end up costing more in the end. So..my question is what clever, imaginative, politically correct phrase describes cheap? I'm talking about literary genius like using deferred success as PC to describe failure. I've considered irresponsibly frugal, excessively thrifty, etc. but I just can't seem to create that aha PC phrase for cheap. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, La Sent from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
