Re: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning
Don’t forget to properly fuse the wire within seven inches of the connection to +12VDC!!! This fuse should be sized to protect the wire going to the pump switch. There should also be a fuse closer to the pump, sized per the pump instructions; this is to protect the pump from overheat/fire in case the shaft or impeller seizes. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On May 26, 2014, at 10:54 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Install a Rule Model 43 rocker switch in a convenient but out of the way location. Wire the switch's positive to one of the battery cables on the back of your battery switch (not the common, the one marked #1 or #2) and the negative to ground (for the indicator light). By connecting to the #1 or #2 connection, you're essentially connecting to one of the batteries. As a rule, I don't like to connect directly to a battery inside the battery box. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning
I also recommend the Whale. High capacity in a small package. Joel On Tuesday, May 27, 2014, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Don’t forget to properly fuse the wire within seven inches of the connection to +12VDC!!! This fuse should be sized to protect the wire going to the pump switch. There should also be a fuse closer to the pump, sized per the pump instructions; this is to protect the pump from overheat/fire in case the shaft or impeller seizes. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On May 26, 2014, at 10:54 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: Install a Rule Model 43 rocker switch in a convenient but out of the way location. Wire the switch's positive to one of the battery cables on the back of your battery switch (not the common, the one marked #1 or #2) and the negative to ground (for the indicator light). By connecting to the #1 or #2 connection, you're essentially connecting to one of the batteries. As a rule, I don't like to connect directly to a battery inside the battery box. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Seacocks
Aqualarm makes a variety of alarms for bilge and engine monitoring. The exhaust monitor I have is part 20245 'Wet Exhaust Overheat Alarm Kit' http://aqualarm.net/index.php?main_page=product_info http://aqualarm.net/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=5products_id=11 cPath=5products_id=11 thanks ed vanderkruk s/v Prime Interest 1982 CC 38 Landfall Toronto, Canada cid:image001.jpg@01C8A05F.9AF64FF0 LF 38, S/N: 229 primeinter...@gmail.com www.primeinterest.blogspot.com From: Dr. Mark Bodnar [mailto:drbod...@accesswave.ca] Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 8:32 PM To: Prime Interest; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Seacocks Seems like my temp alarm is not working. I'll be trying to check that issue out in the near future. For now I have a point an read temp sensor that I'll have on the boat to check how things a running the next few times. I'd be interested to learn more about your exhaust hose temp sensor. Mark There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana On 26/05/2014 11:31 AM, Prime Interest via CnC-List wrote: Mark, I'm surprised that your temperature alarm didn't eventually go off at some point in your adventure. Maybe something to check if you didn't get the alarm. You should probably check that the water pump impellor hasn't lost any vanes when running dry and now stuck in your heat exchanger. Also check that your lift muffler and hoses have survived the hot exhaust. I have an independent temperature alarm on the exhaust hose which will activate well before the engine temp alarm alerts you of a similar coolant problem. thanks ed vanderkruk s/v Prime Interest 1982 CC 38 Landfall Toronto, Canada cid:image001.jpg@01C8A05F.9AF64FF0 LF 38, S/N: 229 primeinter...@gmail.com www.primeinterest.blogspot.com On 25 May 2014 20:13, M Bod via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: OK. Boat got off the dock today. After a bunch of engine work, new hoses and new fuel tank (all installed by mechanic) everything is supposed to be working smoothly. Well. Getting off the dock was not so smooth. Couldn't sort out why roller furler was jamming for a bit. Finally sorted the issue, started the engine, made sure all looked good (exhaust a little louder than I expected, but not bad). Off we went (had a friend along to assist moving the boat from the marina to a nearby cove where it can stay an extra week). 10 min out I see some smoke riding through the companion way. Throttle down. Full off engine cowling. Coolant everywhere! Must have a leak. We turn around to limp back to the dock. I'm looking at the mess with the coolant boiling over when I realize (OK remember mechanic warned me) the seacock for the engine is CLOSED!!! Opened the seacock. Everything cooled off. We had burned off much of our coolant - so I poured in a 1/2 litre water bottle. Kept the engine at low rpm and made the run to the cove. Little hitch at the end. Went to furl the jib but too much sail and not enough line on the furling drum. Only managed to pack away 2/3 of the sail. Solved that by doing 10 clockwise circles in the bay to wrap the sail around the forestay! Dirty, but it worked. All told we survived. Feel like a royal idiot for forgetting the seacock. Had pretty good water shooting out of the muffler after - but I figure I better pull the impellor and check/replace it anyway. I had checked the exhaust when we started - saw splashes. But later realized I was looking at the air exhaust hitting the water and causing a little splash. Still a little shell shocked from the experience but thinking I'll likely remember the seacock in the future! Mark ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List First sail
Or those of us who have engines with stop solenoid so instead of cables. Sent from my iPad On May 26, 2014, at 13:31, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I would venture to ask all who never tried starting the engine with the stop cable pulled out to raise hands. I am afraid that the list of those who haven’t would be short and include mostly people with Atomics (;-) Marek From: Chuck S via CnC-List Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 12:35 PM To: Danny Haughey ; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List First sail Hey Danny, Quite an exciting trip. Farley Mowat wrote that the adventure starts when everything goes wrong. Don't be too hard on yourself. It was a learning experience and success in the end without outside assistance earns you some credit. The more you use the boat, the more you develop good habits that provide less adventure and more fun. When I first got my boat I had some similar panic situations you can learn from: 1) Left the dock without warming up the engine and had to restart it several times manuvering through the marina. Now I start the engine a good 10 min while I single up lines and remove the sail cover and prepare halyards etc. I don't leave the slip or the mooring until it's running smooth and pumping normal. 2) Tried to restart the engine with the kill cable pulled out. It is located behind the helm and a few times after sailing I would forget to push it in. The engine would turn over but with no fuel, would not start. My wife never lets me forget that. Now I developed a habit and push it in, after stopping the engine. And I check that before starting too. So many little things. 3) Pulled the genoa sheet to unfurl the genoa and the furling line jams, either a hockle in the block or a snag somewhere. Now I flake the furling line tail in figure eights, inside a sheet bag and it runs free. There are so many things to remember, you need a written checklist. After running the boat many times you will develop a habit, like charging the cell phone, the handheld VHF, the handheld GPS, the night before a trip. Another tip I can share: Clean and Lubricate everything so it works well and it will save you a lot of heartache and panic situations. Let us know how the second sailing goes. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: paradigmat...@gmail.com, CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 10:40:18 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List First sail Thanks for the recount mark. I bet that was a VERY long 30 minutes! That's why it's called a shakedown cruise! Glad you sorted it all out! I cringed a little when you said you poured spring water into the cooling system. I just remember what trap water used to do to my first car. The coolant was always rust red. I try to keep a gallon of distilled water coolant mix on board after all the leaks I had after installing the fresh water system and all the crap SS house clamps failing... I know that smoke from below scenario quite well! I can totally see you doing doughnuts to roll the head sail! Awesome! From my Android phone Original message From: Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 05/26/2014 1:07 AM (GMT-05:00) To: M Bod drbod...@accesswave.ca,1 CnC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List First sail Either leave the engine seacock open, or hang the ignition key off the seacock handle. Me, I'm useless and we have a Yanmar, so I can start the engine with pretty much anything I have in my pocket including lint. I leave the seacock open. I know this makes me a bad person and I can live with that. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 25 May 2014 20:13, M Bod via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: OK. Boat got off the dock today. After a bunch of engine work, new hoses and new fuel tank (all installed by mechanic) everything is supposed to be working smoothly. Well. Getting off the dock was not so smooth. Couldn't sort out why roller furler was jamming for a bit. Finally sorted the issue, started the engine, made sure all looked good (exhaust a little louder than I expected, but not bad). Off we went (had a friend along to assist moving the boat from the marina to a nearby cove where it can stay an extra week). 10 min out I see some smoke riding through the companion way. Throttle down. Full off engine cowling. Coolant everywhere! Must have a leak. We turn around to limp back to the dock. I'm looking at the mess with the coolant boiling over when I realize (OK remember mechanic warned me) the seacock for the engine is CLOSED!!! Opened the seacock. Everything cooled off. We had burned off much of our coolant - so I poured ina
Re: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning
I have had so many of those rule pumps fail on me, I went to a pair of gusher diaphragm pumps, mounted up high and dry, with hoses to the bilge. I ran a rule float switch to one which failed that first year. Now I have sea choice float switch that has been working for 2 seasons, going on 3. So, I have one gusher with an automatic switch that I can turn on manually, a manually controlled gusher and a manual whale pump in the cock pit, all installed out of the bilge. I have a goal to keep the bilge as empty as possible. The PO found the bilge a great place for a wire chase Danny From my Android phone Original message From: M Bod via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 05/26/2014 11:18 PM (GMT-05:00) To: CC list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning Rich, Thanks for the heads up. I was just online tonight looking at bilge pumps. My CS 30 doesn't have an automatic bilge pump, just a manual. I feel like I should add an automatic pump, but I wonder what size. My boat has a very flat bilge with no 'deep' spots at all and maybe 4 space under the floor boards. What size bilge pump is appropriate? (And will fit) Suggestions? Would you the the 'integrated electronic' switch or the old fashioned float? And suggestions on installation? I gather I should have it pump out near the transom above water level (maybe Y it onto the drain from the manual pump?) Do you 'direct wire' it to the batteries and bypass the panel? Mark On 26 May 2014 23:34, Rich Knowles via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: My bilge pump and I had a small altercation this weekend. It’s a 2000 gph PAR unit that I have had on the boat for at least 10 years. It has never given me problems until it recently decided not to pump any water. The motor ran just fine, and I could see the water in the bilge being stirred around, but nothing was being sent overboard. It acted as though it had an airlock with the impeller only partially submerged. I dismantled it and found that the small slit that acts as an air vent at the top of the plastic impeller housing was completely plugged. This prevented any trapped air from escaping from the pump body. Once I cleaned the crud out of the vent slit, it performed as new. Good for another ten years, thank you. Just a note to tuck away in case anyone has a similar “failure”. Rich Knowles INDIGO LF38 Halifax, NS. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List First sail
Anybody do a retrofit from cable to solenoid? I looked in to it but feared complications and wasted money? On May 27, 2014 8:20 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Or those of us who have engines with stop solenoid so instead of cables. Sent from my iPad On May 26, 2014, at 13:31, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I would venture to ask all who never tried starting the engine with the stop cable pulled out to raise hands. I am afraid that the list of those who haven't would be short and include mostly people with Atomics (;-) Marek *From:* Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Monday, May 26, 2014 12:35 PM *To:* Danny Haughey djhaug...@juno.com ; CNC boat owners, cnc-listcnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List First sail Hey Danny, Quite an exciting trip. Farley Mowat wrote that the adventure starts when everything goes wrong. Don't be too hard on yourself. It was a learning experience and success in the end without outside assistance earns you some credit. The more you use the boat, the more you develop good habits that provide less adventure and more fun. When I first got my boat I had some similar panic situations you can learn from: 1) *Left the dock without warming up the engine* and had to restart it several times manuvering through the marina. Now I start the engine a good 10 min while I single up lines and remove the sail cover and prepare halyards etc. I don't leave the slip or the mooring until it's running smooth and pumping normal. 2) *Tried to restart the engine with the kill cable pulled out*. It is located behind the helm and a few times after sailing I would forget to push it in. The engine would turn over but with no fuel, would not start. My wife never lets me forget that. Now I developed a habit and push it in, after stopping the engine. And I check that before starting too. So many little things. 3) *Pulled the genoa sheet to unfurl the genoa and the furling line jams*, either a hockle in the block or a snag somewhere. Now I flake the furling line tail in figure eights, inside a sheet bag and it runs free. There are so many things to remember, you need a written checklist. After running the boat many times you will develop a habit, like charging the cell phone, the handheld VHF, the handheld GPS, the night before a trip. Another tip I can share: Clean and Lubricate everything so it works well and it will save you a lot of heartache and panic situations. Let us know how the second sailing goes. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ -- *From: *CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To: *paradigmat...@gmail.com, CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent: *Monday, May 26, 2014 10:40:18 AM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List First sail Thanks for the recount mark. I bet that was a VERY long 30 minutes! That's why it's called a shakedown cruise! Glad you sorted it all out! I cringed a little when you said you poured spring water into the cooling system. I just remember what trap water used to do to my first car. The coolant was always rust red. I try to keep a gallon of distilled water coolant mix on board after all the leaks I had after installing the fresh water system and all the crap SS house clamps failing... I know that smoke from below scenario quite well! I can totally see you doing doughnuts to roll the head sail! Awesome! From my Android phone Original message From: Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 05/26/2014 1:07 AM (GMT-05:00) To: M Bod drbod...@accesswave.ca,1 CnC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List First sail Either leave the engine seacock open, or hang the ignition key off the seacock handle. Me, I'm useless and we have a Yanmar, so I can start the engine with pretty much anything I have in my pocket including lint. I leave the seacock open. I know this makes me a bad person and I can live with that. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 25 May 2014 20:13, M Bod via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: OK. Boat got off the dock today. After a bunch of engine work, new hoses and new fuel tank (all installed by mechanic) everything is supposed to be working smoothly. Well. Getting off the dock was not so smooth. Couldn't sort out why roller furler was jamming for a bit. Finally sorted the issue, started the engine, made sure all looked good (exhaust a little louder than I expected, but not bad). Off we went (had a friend along to assist moving the boat from the marina to a nearby cove where it can stay an extra week). 10 min out I see some smoke riding through the companion way. Throttle down. Full off engine cowling. Coolant everywhere! Must have a leak. We turn around to limp back to the dock. I'm looking at the mess with the coolant boiling over
Stus-List 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable?
I have a CC30 MK1 with a throttle on the right and a shift on my left on the Edison pedestal. straight up and down motion on them both. Any Idea what cable I would use to replace the shift cable? thanks Curtis -- All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T. E. Lawrence . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning
All this is good advice. The thing I'm finding not so good is that, while we all faithfully install tinned marine wire in hopes of staving off corrosion, equipment and bilge pump makers still frequently use untinned copper wire that is very prone to corrosion. Shame! Rich On May 27, 2014, at 10:51, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Dennis had a good call with heat shrink and painting with liquid electrical tape. I took made my heat shrink about two inches longer than the connection, and injected marine silicone inside with a syringe. When the shrunk, silicone gushed out the ends. It has been wet often. Maybe I'm just lucky, but my 12 year old Rule pumps and float switches are still doing fine. I have a little 500 as the primary pump, and a big one that stays up on a platform about six inches off the bilge, just in case. The 500 does get clogged up with bilge gunk, and I just replaced it because they can't be taken apart and cleaned out.One thing I do is take a garden hose to 3/4 adapter and flush the hose out with high pressure dock water. I'll also backflush the pump with the garden hose. Most of the float switches I've seen fail are really due to bad wiring. I've seen plain crimp connections just sitting in the bilge, and it's no wonder the wire rots out. The worst, if you can believe it, was just wires twisted together and covered with electrical tape. No kidding. I found that down here in Mexico, as the sport fishing boat was sinking at the dock. The guy came back to town, and when I told him that I'd saved his boat he didn't even say thanks. Power boaters. (It probably didn't help that I said whoever did the wiring ought to be taken out and shot.) Wal you CnC-List wrote: I ran a rule float switch to one which failed that first year. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine
A good rule of thumb is to max out the RPMs when you're under way. Note the number. About 75% of that is a good cruising RPM but many people will go a little lower. IE if you max out at 3200 RPM, then 2400 would be fine, but I would probably run at 2200 to conserve fuel. Running at max for brief periods won't harm the engine. (and might do it a little bit of good) It is good to max out your RPMs on a fairly regular basis. A reduction in max RPMs will be a signal that you have a problem somewhere (it could be as simple as a fouled prop). Andy CC 40 Peregrine On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your diesel engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35. I used to stay around 2300, but people tell me diesels like to be worked and I could go higher. My mechanic said don’t be afraid to go 2500 or more, but I wonder if he’s just looking for more repair income :-) How much do you push your engine? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine
Maybe no problem for the diesel with higher rpm but everything connected to it also sees the higher rpm.I like to find the rpm sweet spot where everything seems to be running smoth with low vibration, go a hundred rpm higher or lower and things will vibrate more on Alianna.actually there seems to be 2 sweet spots, one around 1500 for slow leaisurely steaming in calm condidtions and another around 2500 for rougher conditions.however I can make the boat move faster with higher rpm but vibrations increase and I don't like the added noise.I have a 3 blade Autoprop and I figure that my prop has preferred rotation speeds or sweet spots where balance is best and vibrations are minimized and all sounds right but that's just a guess _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: May 27, 2014 1:16 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine Listers, Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your diesel engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35. I used to stay around 2300, but people tell me diesels like to be worked and I could go higher. My mechanic said don't be afraid to go 2500 or more, but I wonder if he's just looking for more repair income :-) How much do you push your engine? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine
I understand about sweet spots, but I'd say if you are getting that much vibration, something's out of whack. Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On May 27, 2014, at 12:26, dwight via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Maybe no problem for the diesel with higher rpm but everything connected to it also sees the higher rpm…I like to find the rpm sweet spot where everything seems to be running smoth with low vibration, go a hundred rpm higher or lower and things will vibrate more on Alianna…actually there seems to be 2 sweet spots, one around 1500 for slow leaisurely steaming in calm condidtions and another around 2500 for rougher conditions…however I can make the boat move faster with higher rpm but vibrations increase and I don’t like the added noise…I have a 3 blade Autoprop and I figure that my prop has preferred rotation speeds or sweet spots where balance is best and vibrations are minimized and all sounds right but that’s just a guess From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: May 27, 2014 1:16 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine Listers, Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your diesel engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35. I used to stay around 2300, but people tell me diesels like to be worked and I could go higher. My mechanic said don’t be afraid to go 2500 or more, but I wonder if he’s just looking for more repair income :-) How much do you push your engine? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable?
In case it helps, just replacing mine too. Same pedestal control setup, slightly different diesel (2QM15 with Hurth/Kanzaki transmission). Morse teleflex, 10 foot length. Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Curtis, dig the old cable out and go to your marine supplier with the old one to make sure you have the right ends and length. Rich On May 27, 2014, at 12:44, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a CC30 MK1 with a throttle on the right and a shift on my left on the Edison pedestal. straight up and down motion on them both. Any Idea what cable I would use to replace the shift cable? thanks Curtis -- All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T. E. Lawrence . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Bilge pump installation
I had a Rule automatic pump where the water level is determined by impellers' resistance to turning or motor load. Mine ran 24/7 because the bilge crud would foul the impeller and create enough resistance to fool it into permanently sensing water in the bilge. Cleaning the Impeller / flushing the bilge was a very temporary fix as more crud always seemed to re-appear. For the switch: I ended up going with Water Witch switch https://www.waterwitchinc.com/new/SiteElements/Pages/SecondaryPages/Products/BilgeSwitches.html It's an electronic switch but it's known as the best. They are warrantied for 7 years and are used by the Coast Guard. So far it's been flawless. For the Pump. I went for a manual switch version Johnson 750 GPH. That's the largest pump I could get into the little sump area my boat has for a pump. I had to do away with the one way valve as it was not priming / flowing efficiently so it burps back about 2 cups of water into the sump when It's done pumping.. I can live with that and so far it's been very reliable. I would like to add a diaphragm type pump with it's own through hull connected to a high water sensor as a backup one day but that's pretty far down the priority list.. As I am writing this my desk feels like it's heaving as I spent the long weekend on the boat :-) -Francois 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, Georgia___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable?
That was going to be the plan if I did not get a confident answer. I just didn't want to down the boat too long. Thanks. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: In case it helps, just replacing mine too. Same pedestal control setup, slightly different diesel (2QM15 with Hurth/Kanzaki transmission). Morse teleflex, 10 foot length. Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Curtis, dig the old cable out and go to your marine supplier with the old one to make sure you have the right ends and length. Rich On May 27, 2014, at 12:44, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a CC30 MK1 with a throttle on the right and a shift on my left on the Edison pedestal. straight up and down motion on them both. Any Idea what cable I would use to replace the shift cable? thanks Curtis -- All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T. E. Lawrence . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T. E. Lawrence . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable?
The cable is pretty easy to measure. The one end is hooked to the shift lever and the other to the transmission. You can follow the old one and get your length. It is (as was said) a Morse cable and is available at many boat stores. It is threaded at each end - you take the ends off the old and put on the new. The biggest problem is getting the pedestal apart to get to the lever end - I had to use heat and solvent (PB Blaster or WD40) and an impact screwdriver to get the flat plate off the top of the casting which holds the lever. Don't scrimp on the length, if you are uncertain, buy the next longer cable, it can always run a bit loose in the lazerette area. I don't remember the lengthy, and was replacing the throttle cable which may be a different length. Gary #593 - Original Message - From: Curtis via CnC-List To: Nate Flesness ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable? That was going to be the plan if I did not get a confident answer. I just didn't want to down the boat too long. Thanks. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: In case it helps, just replacing mine too. Same pedestal control setup, slightly different diesel (2QM15 with Hurth/Kanzaki transmission). Morse teleflex, 10 foot length. Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Curtis, dig the old cable out and go to your marine supplier with the old one to make sure you have the right ends and length. Rich On May 27, 2014, at 12:44, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a CC30 MK1 with a throttle on the right and a shift on my left on the Edison pedestal. straight up and down motion on them both. Any Idea what cable I would use to replace the shift cable? thanks Curtis -- All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T. E. Lawrence . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T. E. Lawrence . -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine
Not always. Harmonics on a 30 year boat need the sweet spot. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I understand about sweet spots, but I'd say if you are getting that much vibration, something's out of whack. Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On May 27, 2014, at 12:26, dwight via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Maybe no problem for the diesel with higher rpm but everything connected to it also sees the higher rpm...I like to find the rpm sweet spot where everything seems to be running smoth with low vibration, go a hundred rpm higher or lower and things will vibrate more on Alianna...actually there seems to be 2 sweet spots, one around 1500 for slow leaisurely steaming in calm condidtions and another around 2500 for rougher conditions...however I can make the boat move faster with higher rpm but vibrations increase and I don't like the added noise...I have a 3 blade Autoprop and I figure that my prop has preferred rotation speeds or sweet spots where balance is best and vibrations are minimized and all sounds right but that's just a guess -- *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Edd Schillay via CnC-List *Sent:* May 27, 2014 1:16 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine Listers, Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your diesel engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35. I used to stay around 2300, but people tell me diesels like to be worked and I could go higher. My mechanic said don't be afraid to go 2500 or more, but I wonder if he's just looking for more repair income :-) How much do you push your engine? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T. E. Lawrence . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable?
My even bigger problem (after working hard getting the top plate off as noted, PB Blaster, square-shafted screwdriver in a crescent wrench aided by a vise-grip on the head of the screw at the same time - takes only three hands) was getting the cable free from the retaining pin. We ended up drilling a new hole in the side of the vertical casting to press the pin out, after removing the hair-diameter cotter with small needle nose. I'll consider this newly-drilled hole a nice feature the mfg. forgot to include, until someone knows of a better way to get these apart... And by the way the freed parts make a nice ting sound when they fall down the tube into your after bilge recommend a dishpan or something be placed underneath first Nate On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The cable is pretty easy to measure. The one end is hooked to the shift lever and the other to the transmission. You can follow the old one and get your length. It is (as was said) a Morse cable and is available at many boat stores. It is threaded at each end - you take the ends off the old and put on the new. The biggest problem is getting the pedestal apart to get to the lever end - I had to use heat and solvent (PB Blaster or WD40) and an impact screwdriver to get the flat plate off the top of the casting which holds the lever. Don't scrimp on the length, if you are uncertain, buy the next longer cable, it can always run a bit loose in the lazerette area. I don't remember the lengthy, and was replacing the throttle cable which may be a different length. Gary #593 - Original Message - *From:* Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To:* Nate Flesness nateflesn...@gmail.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:14 PM *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable? That was going to be the plan if I did not get a confident answer. I just didn't want to down the boat too long. Thanks. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: In case it helps, just replacing mine too. Same pedestal control setup, slightly different diesel (2QM15 with Hurth/Kanzaki transmission). Morse teleflex, 10 foot length. Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Curtis, dig the old cable out and go to your marine supplier with the old one to make sure you have the right ends and length. Rich On May 27, 2014, at 12:44, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a CC30 MK1 with a throttle on the right and a shift on my left on the Edison pedestal. straight up and down motion on them both. Any Idea what cable I would use to replace the shift cable? thanks Curtis -- All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T. E. Lawrence . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T. E. Lawrence . -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo
Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning
Wal: you must be lucky or I am unlucky, my Rule bilge pump float switches last from one to 3 years and this replacement frequency has been going on for the 27 years I've owned my boat! (My last Rule bilge pump lasted about 15 years though--real good service!). I am switching to a completely enclosed sensing type of switch made by Johnson--I hope it lasts much longer! Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine
I have an M35B in Imzadi. Max RPM is 3000 for that engine. IIRC the max torque is between 2400 and 2600 RPM - which is consistent with the rule of thumb that max torque is at about 80% of max RPM. Your engine will thank you if you use it regularly and with significant load. Idling for extended periods to charge batteries, it running for long periods at low RPMs is not good for it. But 2300 is pretty close to 2400-2500, so you are probably not doing significant harm. Just don't be afraid of going to 2500. Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On May 27, 2014, at 12:16, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your diesel engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35. I used to stay around 2300, but people tell me diesels like to be worked and I could go higher. My mechanic said don’t be afraid to go 2500 or more, but I wonder if he’s just looking for more repair income :-) How much do you push your engine? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable?
Or go to your reputable auto parts store with the old cable. A Teledyne cable is a Teledyne cable. And probably less at the auto parts store than at a boat supplier - and more likely to be in stock instead of a special order. Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On May 27, 2014, at 12:09, Rich Knowles via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Curtis, dig the old cable out and go to your marine supplier with the old one to make sure you have the right ends and length. Rich On May 27, 2014, at 12:44, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a CC30 MK1 with a throttle on the right and a shift on my left on the Edison pedestal. straight up and down motion on them both. Any Idea what cable I would use to replace the shift cable? thanks Curtis -- All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T. E. Lawrence . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List need adapter to connect mixing elbow 1.5 OD to muffler 1.25 OD
Finishing reinstalling my Yanmar 2QM15 in my 30-1, I need to connect the official Yanmar mixing elbow (OD 1.5) to the orig equipment metal muffler tube (OD 1.25). Anyone have a handy source for a suitable adapter? I have high temp radiator style hoses in both ID sizes. The P.O had a bizarre collection of hardware store galvanized pipe connecting a homemade elbow to the muffler. The pipes always leaked a little. I'm trying to get back to something resembling the original setup. Thanks Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 SIskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List River cruise
All, Just wanted to share some of this weekend's Memorial Day trip. as some of you may remember, I have Gabriela, a CC 34' that is homeport on the Snake River in Washington. I know it seems weird, but I moved here from California where week long sails in the Big Blue Pacific were commonplace and everyone had a sailboat. I needed my fix, so I bought a CC 34 in Seattle and moved it to my home marina. Needless to say during the move I learned about low clearances under bridges and trying to dock in extreme currents. This past weekend we took Gabriela for a cruise. All last fall we refitted, cleaned, painted, and generally dressed up the 1978 beauty. This was the first out of town trip we took.not much of a trip only about 25 miles down river, but it was a classic trip none the less. The winter runoff from the snow melt in the mountains of Idaho, Oregon, and Washington have made the Snake river a swirling cauldron of tree stumps, broken branches, muddy water and all the nastiness that happens during the runoff days. The neighbor in the slip next to mine is a seasoned river captain has had his commercial license to take 40-60ft jet boats with up to 50 passengers on them up river to a place called Hells Canyon. He owns a Catalina 36 he lives aboard. He said don't do it, the river is a mess. the extra current made the water roil around the bridge emplacements, and there was a whole forest floating down the rapidly moving Snake. I took it as a challenge :) We left around noon and made good a speed over the ground (or water as it were) of 9.5 knots. The wind was blowing from the east, the Yanmar was pushing us downstream at a good clip and we had the winds at our back (from the east). We made 25 miles in just over 2.5 hours. Since marinas and docks on the snake are far and few between, especially one that can handle the draft of a CC 34, we decided to anchor. We found an eddy ( a back flow in the river made by coves in the shore line and actually let the boat point WEST instead of EAST as the flow of the current would indicate. We set a bow anchor and a stern anchor in 40' of water, fired up the BBQ and the stereo (there is no cell service or TV or Radio for that matter). and had steaks and corn on the cob courtesy of the BBQ grill on the back rail. Because the river got deeper here (around 125 feet) the water flowed less on the surface, and more down deep. and the junk floating in the water seemed to disperse more. by the next day, it was clear and clean water and the junk had washed down the river to the Columbia. During the night, a small front moved in and dropped a little rain on us, but we were snug inside the dry and cozy cabin. We had put memory foam mattresses under all the sleeping berths and we slept the sleep of angels. In the morning, the coyotes woke us up, and we fixed a breakfast on the stove in the galley, pulled up anchor and headed back up river. Expecting a slight westerly we were pleasantly surprised when the wind was pretty fresh at around 10mph from the west consistently with gusts to 20mph. this pushed Gabriela along at an average of 5.5 knts AGAINST the current.we sailed in the shallowest part of the river as we could, thus keeping out of the fastest part of the flow. In the end, we made the 25 miles back home in about 4.5 hours with more than half the trip under sail. It was a challenge dodging the flotsam in the water, but we did it without even getting close to a log. (the river can be over a half mile wide in some places.) as much of it had washed past us during the night. The return was sunny and 75 degrees with a nice tail wind mostly and a great day sailing. The boar was solid, the handling was superb, and the sail plan was perfect for what we needed. Thanks for reading --- hope to see you in our water some day. JP S/V Gabriela 1978 CC 34 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List River cruise
JP; your description was quite similar to what we get around here on the Ohio River; except for Coyote part! Happy sailing. Richard 1985 37 CB 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: J.P. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tue, May 27, 2014 4:23 pm Subject: Stus-List River cruise All, Just wanted to share some of this weekend’s Memorial Day trip… as some of you may remember, I have Gabriela, a CC 34’ that is homeport on the Snake River in Washington… I know it seems weird, but I moved here from California where week long sails in the Big Blue Pacific were commonplace and everyone had a sailboat. I needed my fix, so I bought a CC 34 in Seattle and moved it to my home marina. Needless to say during the move I learned about low clearances under bridges and trying to dock in extreme currents. This past weekend we took Gabriela for a cruise. All last fall we refitted, cleaned, painted, and generally dressed up the 1978 beauty. This was the first “out of town” trip we took…not much of a trip only about 25 miles down river, but it was a classic trip none the less. The winter runoff from the snow melt in the mountains of Idaho, Oregon, and Washington have made the Snake river a swirling cauldron of tree stumps, broken branches, muddy water and all the nastiness that happens during the runoff days. The neighbor in the slip next to mine is a seasoned river captain has had his commercial license to take 40-60ft jet boats with up to 50 passengers on them up river to a place called Hells Canyon. He owns a Catalina 36 he lives aboard. He said “don’t do it, the river is a mess”… the extra current made the water roil around the bridge emplacements, and there was a whole forest floating down the rapidly moving Snake. I took it as a challenge J We left around noon and made good a speed over the ground (or water as it were) of 9.5 knots. The wind was blowing from the east, the Yanmar was pushing us downstream at a good clip and we had the winds at our back (from the east). We made 25 miles in just over 2.5 hours. Since marinas and docks on the snake are far and few between, especially one that can handle the draft of a CC 34, we decided to anchor. We found an eddy ( a back flow in the river made by “coves” in the shore line and actually let the boat point WEST instead of EAST as the flow of the current would indicate. We set a bow anchor and a stern anchor in 40’ of water, fired up the BBQ and the stereo (there is no cell service or TV or Radio for that matter)… and had steaks and corn on the cob courtesy of the BBQ grill on the back rail. Because the river got deeper here (around 125 feet) the water flowed less on the surface, and more down deep… and the junk floating in the water seemed to “disperse” more… by the next day, it was clear and clean water and the junk had washed down the river to the Columbia. During the night, a small front moved in and dropped a little rain on us, but we were snug inside the dry and cozy cabin. We had put memory foam mattresses under all the sleeping berths and we slept the sleep of angels. In the morning, the coyotes woke us up, and we fixed a breakfast on the stove in the galley, pulled up anchor and headed back up river. Expecting a slight westerly we were pleasantly surprised when the wind was pretty fresh at around 10mph from the west consistently with gusts to 20mph… this pushed Gabriela along at an average of 5.5 knts AGAINST the current…we sailed in the shallowest part of the river as we could, thus keeping out of the fastest part of the flow. In the end, we made the 25 miles back home in about 4.5 hours with more than half the trip under sail. It was a challenge dodging the flotsam in the water, but we did it without even getting close to a log… (the river can be over a half mile wide in some places…) as much of it had washed past us during the night. The return was sunny and 75 degrees with a nice tail wind mostly and a great day sailing… The boar was solid, the handling was superb, and the sail plan was perfect for what we needed. Thanks for reading --- hope to see you in our water some day… JP S/V Gabriela 1978 CC 34 ___ his List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: nc-l...@cnc-list.com o change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page t: ttp://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine
Hi Edd, I hear 2750 is the sweet spot for an engine w 3600 max RPM I just ran three days to get my boat from AC to Magothy River, Md. My M4-30 liked 2750 for the first day running at max, 195 degrees. Diesels like to run hot and run loaded. They start carboning up if they are loaded less than 30%. The second day, I had an overheat condition and had to stop and anchor and clean the heat exchanger. It was scaled up with many tubes plugged. I rodded it clear using wooden dowels I keep aboard. The flow improved but only 50%. I changed the impellor and flow was 30% better than when I launched. The old impellor looked fine, but the results were night and day, so I threw it away. After that, she ran cooler and liked more RPMs and we got closer to 3000PRM. 3600 is max. I monitor vibration and engine temperature to choose RPMs. We were pushing to catch tide changes to get up the Delaware and thru the CC Canal. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ - Original Message - From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 12:16:00 PM Subject: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine Listers, Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your diesel engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35. I used to stay around 2300, but people tell me diesels like to be worked and I could go higher. My mechanic said don’t be afraid to go 2500 or more, but I wonder if he’s just looking for more repair income :-) How much do you push your engine? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning
I installed a big 2000, but doubt it pumps 2000GPM, more like GPH on it's best day. - Original Message - From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Gary Nylander gnylan...@atlanticbb.net, CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:55:22 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning Some bilge pump; 500 gallons per minute...fight fires with that baby -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander via CnC-List Sent: May 27, 2014 11:46 AM To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning I wired a 500 gpm Rule pump straight to the panel (through a connector under the dinette seat). The pump comes with long enough wires that any connection is completely up in the (dry) seat area, but I still used Anchor connectors with built in heat shrink. So far, so good. I expect it will fail for some reason (way down under the mast step) so am planning another diaphragm pump with a hose down there. I've done this before. The pump itself just craps out. I worry little about the fact I have to turn it on and off, as I live less than a block from the boat and it is in an active yard - they will call if there is any problem (plus I draw five feet and am in about six feet of water at low tide, seven to eight at high). And there is not enough room in the deep part of the bilge for a pump and a switch - I have found the automatic 'all in one' pumps seem to die earlier than manual ones. Just replaced the Whale Gusher (I think OEM) after 33 years - you would think those things would be durable - this time, I will use it every so often - it was virtually welded together from corrosion. Gary 30-1, 1980 - Original Message - From: Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:51 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning Dennis had a good call with heat shrink and painting with liquid electrical tape. I took made my heat shrink about two inches longer than the connection, and injected marine silicone inside with a syringe. When the shrunk, silicone gushed out the ends. It has been wet often. Maybe I'm just lucky, but my 12 year old Rule pumps and float switches are still doing fine. I have a little 500 as the primary pump, and a big one that stays up on a platform about six inches off the bilge, just in case. The 500 does get clogged up with bilge gunk, and I just replaced it because they can't be taken apart and cleaned out. One thing I do is take a garden hose to 3/4 adapter and flush the hose out with high pressure dock water. I'll also backflush the pump with the garden hose. Most of the float switches I've seen fail are really due to bad wiring. I've seen plain crimp connections just sitting in the bilge, and it's no wonder the wire rots out. The worst, if you can believe it, was just wires twisted together and covered with electrical tape. No kidding. I found that down here in Mexico, as the sport fishing boat was sinking at the dock. The guy came back to town, and when I told him that I'd saved his boat he didn't even say thanks. Power boaters. (It probably didn't help that I said whoever did the wiring ought to be taken out and shot.) Wal you CnC-List wrote: I ran a rule float switch to one which failed that first year. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine
I am told my Beta 25 can run up to 3600 but I reach hull speed at ~ 3200 so running it higher is pointless--the speed is fixed by the combination of rpm/transmission ratio/prop size/LWL. It is loud enough at 3200! Charlie Nelson S/V Water Phantom cenel...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tue, May 27, 2014 5:22 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine Hi Edd, I hear 2750 is the sweet spot for an engine w 3600 max RPM I just ran three days to get my boat from AC to Magothy River, Md. My M4-30 liked 2750 for the first day running at max, 195 degrees. Diesels like to run hot and run loaded. They start carboning up if they are loaded less than 30%. The second day, I had an overheat condition and had to stop and anchor and clean the heat exchanger. It was scaled up with many tubes plugged. I rodded it clear using wooden dowels I keep aboard. The flow improved but only 50%. I changed the impellor and flow was 30% better than when I launched. The old impellor looked fine, but the results were night and day, so I threw it away. After that, she ran cooler and liked more RPMs and we got closer to 3000PRM. 3600 is max. I monitor vibration and engine temperature to choose RPMs. We were pushing to catch tide changes to get up the Delaware and thru the CC Canal. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 12:16:00 PM Subject: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine Listers, Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your diesel engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35. I used to stay around 2300, but people tell me diesels like to be worked and I could go higher. My mechanic said don’t be afraid to go 2500 or more, but I wonder if he’s just looking for more repair income :-) How much do you push your engine? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List River cruise
I find your situation very interesting. You are a very rare sailor. For some reason, I often have dreams where I am sailing down city streets, which happen to have water in them. Somehow my spar never catches any wires. I have talked to other sailors who have similar dreams. I must secretly want to be in the river like you. Bill Coleman CC 39 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of J.P. via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:23 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List River cruise All, Just wanted to share some of this weekend's Memorial Day trip. as some of you may remember, I have Gabriela, a CC 34' that is homeport on the Snake River in Washington. I know it seems weird, but I moved here from California where week long sails in the Big Blue Pacific were commonplace and everyone had a sailboat. I needed my fix, so I bought a CC 34 in Seattle and moved it to my home marina. Needless to say during the move I learned about low clearances under bridges and trying to dock in extreme currents. This past weekend we took Gabriela for a cruise. All last fall we refitted, cleaned, painted, and generally dressed up the 1978 beauty. This was the first out of town trip we took.not much of a trip only about 25 miles down river, but it was a classic trip none the less. The winter runoff from the snow melt in the mountains of Idaho, Oregon, and Washington have made the Snake river a swirling cauldron of tree stumps, broken branches, muddy water and all the nastiness that happens during the runoff days. The neighbor in the slip next to mine is a seasoned river captain has had his commercial license to take 40-60ft jet boats with up to 50 passengers on them up river to a place called Hells Canyon. He owns a Catalina 36 he lives aboard. He said don't do it, the river is a mess. the extra current made the water roil around the bridge emplacements, and there was a whole forest floating down the rapidly moving Snake. I took it as a challenge J We left around noon and made good a speed over the ground (or water as it were) of 9.5 knots. The wind was blowing from the east, the Yanmar was pushing us downstream at a good clip and we had the winds at our back (from the east). We made 25 miles in just over 2.5 hours. Since marinas and docks on the snake are far and few between, especially one that can handle the draft of a CC 34, we decided to anchor. We found an eddy ( a back flow in the river made by coves in the shore line and actually let the boat point WEST instead of EAST as the flow of the current would indicate. We set a bow anchor and a stern anchor in 40' of water, fired up the BBQ and the stereo (there is no cell service or TV or Radio for that matter). and had steaks and corn on the cob courtesy of the BBQ grill on the back rail. Because the river got deeper here (around 125 feet) the water flowed less on the surface, and more down deep. and the junk floating in the water seemed to disperse more. by the next day, it was clear and clean water and the junk had washed down the river to the Columbia. During the night, a small front moved in and dropped a little rain on us, but we were snug inside the dry and cozy cabin. We had put memory foam mattresses under all the sleeping berths and we slept the sleep of angels. In the morning, the coyotes woke us up, and we fixed a breakfast on the stove in the galley, pulled up anchor and headed back up river. Expecting a slight westerly we were pleasantly surprised when the wind was pretty fresh at around 10mph from the west consistently with gusts to 20mph. this pushed Gabriela along at an average of 5.5 knts AGAINST the current.we sailed in the shallowest part of the river as we could, thus keeping out of the fastest part of the flow. In the end, we made the 25 miles back home in about 4.5 hours with more than half the trip under sail. It was a challenge dodging the flotsam in the water, but we did it without even getting close to a log. (the river can be over a half mile wide in some places.) as much of it had washed past us during the night. The return was sunny and 75 degrees with a nice tail wind mostly and a great day sailing. The boar was solid, the handling was superb, and the sail plan was perfect for what we needed. Thanks for reading --- hope to see you in our water some day. JP S/V Gabriela 1978 CC 34 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning
Thanks for all the advice. This is a great resource (thanks Stu). I've read some of this info scanning different online sites - but this list gives quick feedback on how and why. That Whale sub pump is exactly the one I was looking at. Plus a switch. I will take the wiring advice - heat shrink and silicone etc. Any thoughts on the discharge? I've read some people discharge through the galley sink drain - which would keep the hose run short and easy --- but then I'd have to leave that seacock open.. The other option is to Y the discharge to the current manual pump discharge (or one of the above waterline cockpit drain hoses) - but that would need 18'+ of hose. Mark - There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana On 27/05/2014 10:51 AM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List wrote: Dennis had a good call with heat shrink and painting with liquid electrical tape. I took made my heat shrink about two inches longer than the connection, and injected marine silicone inside with a syringe. When the shrunk, silicone gushed out the ends. It has been wet often. Maybe I'm just lucky, but my 12 year old Rule pumps and float switches are still doing fine. I have a little 500 as the primary pump, and a big one that stays up on a platform about six inches off the bilge, just in case. The 500 does get clogged up with bilge gunk, and I just replaced it because they can't be taken apart and cleaned out.One thing I do is take a garden hose to 3/4 adapter and flush the hose out with high pressure dock water. I'll also backflush the pump with the garden hose. Most of the float switches I've seen fail are really due to bad wiring. I've seen plain crimp connections just sitting in the bilge, and it's no wonder the wire rots out. The worst, if you can believe it, was just wires twisted together and covered with electrical tape. No kidding. I found that down here in Mexico, as the sport fishing boat was sinking at the dock. The guy came back to town, and when I told him that I'd saved his boat he didn't even say thanks. Power boaters. (It probably didn't help that I said whoever did the wiring ought to be taken out and shot.) Wal you CnC-List wrote: I ran a rule float switch to one which failed that first year. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning
Mark, the Whale I noted has a built in switch. Rich On May 27, 2014, at 18:35, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Thanks for all the advice. This is a great resource (thanks Stu). I've read some of this info scanning different online sites - but this list gives quick feedback on how and why. That Whale sub pump is exactly the one I was looking at. Plus a switch. I will take the wiring advice - heat shrink and silicone etc. Any thoughts on the discharge? I've read some people discharge through the galley sink drain - which would keep the hose run short and easy --- but then I'd have to leave that seacock open.. The other option is to Y the discharge to the current manual pump discharge (or one of the above waterline cockpit drain hoses) - but that would need 18'+ of hose. Mark - There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana On 27/05/2014 10:51 AM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List wrote: Dennis had a good call with heat shrink and painting with liquid electrical tape. I took made my heat shrink about two inches longer than the connection, and injected marine silicone inside with a syringe. When the shrunk, silicone gushed out the ends. It has been wet often. Maybe I'm just lucky, but my 12 year old Rule pumps and float switches are still doing fine. I have a little 500 as the primary pump, and a big one that stays up on a platform about six inches off the bilge, just in case. The 500 does get clogged up with bilge gunk, and I just replaced it because they can't be taken apart and cleaned out.One thing I do is take a garden hose to 3/4 adapter and flush the hose out with high pressure dock water. I'll also backflush the pump with the garden hose. Most of the float switches I've seen fail are really due to bad wiring. I've seen plain crimp connections just sitting in the bilge, and it's no wonder the wire rots out. The worst, if you can believe it, was just wires twisted together and covered with electrical tape. No kidding. I found that down here in Mexico, as the sport fishing boat was sinking at the dock. The guy came back to town, and when I told him that I'd saved his boat he didn't even say thanks. Power boaters. (It probably didn't help that I said whoever did the wiring ought to be taken out and shot.) Wal you CnC-List wrote: I ran a rule float switch to one which failed that first year. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List River cruise
I once had a dream I was commanding a small square rigged cargo brig thru waterways of Copenhagen, with buildings on both sides and we used topsails only to manuver a few turns in about 10 knots of wind. There were no wires because it was the early 1800's. Great fun moving past buildings at 5 knots, w people waving and the crew all engaged and proficient. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ - Original Message - From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 5:34:15 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List River cruise I find your situation very interesting. You are a very rare sailor. For some reason, I often have dreams where I am sailing down city streets, which happen to have water in them. Somehow my spar never catches any wires. I have talked to other sailors who have similar dreams. I must secretly want to be in the river like you. Bill Coleman CC 39 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of J.P. via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:23 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List River cruise All, Just wanted to share some of this weekend’s Memorial Day trip… as some of you may remember, I have Gabriela, a CC 34’ that is homeport on the Snake River in Washington… I know it seems weird, but I moved here from California where week long sails in the Big Blue Pacific were commonplace and everyone had a sailboat. I needed my fix, so I bought a CC 34 in Seattle and moved it to my home marina. Needless to say during the move I learned about low clearances under bridges and trying to dock in extreme currents. This past weekend we took Gabriela for a cruise. All last fall we refitted, cleaned, painted, and generally dressed up the 1978 beauty. This was the first “out of town” trip we took…not much of a trip only about 25 miles down river, but it was a classic trip none the less. The winter runoff from the snow melt in the mountains of Idaho, Oregon, and Washington have made the Snake river a swirling cauldron of tree stumps, broken branches, muddy water and all the nastiness that happens during the runoff days. The neighbor in the slip next to mine is a seasoned river captain has had his commercial license to take 40-60ft jet boats with up to 50 passengers on them up river to a place called Hells Canyon. He owns a Catalina 36 he lives aboard. He said “don’t do it, the river is a mess”… the extra current made the water roil around the bridge emplacements, and there was a whole forest floating down the rapidly moving Snake. I took it as a challenge J We left around noon and made good a speed over the ground (or water as it were) of 9.5 knots. The wind was blowing from the east, the Yanmar was pushing us downstream at a good clip and we had the winds at our back (from the east). We made 25 miles in just over 2.5 hours. Since marinas and docks on the snake are far and few between, especially one that can handle the draft of a CC 34, we decided to anchor. We found an eddy ( a back flow in the river made by “coves” in the shore line and actually let the boat point WEST instead of EAST as the flow of the current would indicate. We set a bow anchor and a stern anchor in 40’ of water, fired up the BBQ and the stereo (there is no cell service or TV or Radio for that matter)… and had steaks and corn on the cob courtesy of the BBQ grill on the back rail. Because the river got deeper here (around 125 feet) the water flowed less on the surface, and more down deep… and the junk floating in the water seemed to “disperse” more… by the next day, it was clear and clean water and the junk had washed down the river to the Columbia. During the night, a small front moved in and dropped a little rain on us, but we were snug inside the dry and cozy cabin. We had put memory foam mattresses under all the sleeping berths and we slept the sleep of angels. In the morning, the coyotes woke us up, and we fixed a breakfast on the stove in the galley, pulled up anchor and headed back up river. Expecting a slight westerly we were pleasantly surprised when the wind was pretty fresh at around 10mph from the west consistently with gusts to 20mph… this pushed Gabriela along at an average of 5.5 knts AGAINST the current…we sailed in the shallowest part of the river as we could, thus keeping out of the fastest part of the flow. In the end, we made the 25 miles back home in about 4.5 hours with more than half the trip under sail. It was a challenge dodging the flotsam in the water, but we did it without even getting close to a log… (the river can be over a half mile wide in some places…) as much of it had washed past us during the night. The return was sunny and 75 degrees with a nice tail wind mostly and a great day sailing… The boar was solid, the handling was superb, and the sail plan was
Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine
Edd, This will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, as well as the specific model. My Yanmar tops out at 3600 rpm. Yanmar recommends running them at up to 85% of their continuous rating. My max continuous is 3400, so I run mine about 2900. That's how I get to Screwpile every year. 13 hours at 2900 rpm, each way. There's never any wind on the Chesapeake in July. Jake Jake Brodersen Midnight Mistress CC 35 Mk-III Hampton Va From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 12:16 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine Listers, Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your diesel engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35. I used to stay around 2300, but people tell me diesels like to be worked and I could go higher. My mechanic said don't be afraid to go 2500 or more, but I wonder if he's just looking for more repair income :-) How much do you push your engine? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List need adapter to connect mixing elbow 1.5 OD to muffler 1.25 OD
Nate, Centek makes some nice fiberglass adapters. They are available in many boat stores online. They should have one that will do the job. The fiberglass will weigh less than galvanized pipe. It’s sure to help make your boat faster! Jake Jake Brodersen “Midnight Mistress” CC 35 Mk-III Hampton Va From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Nate Flesness via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 3:50 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List need adapter to connect mixing elbow 1.5 OD to muffler 1.25 OD Finishing reinstalling my Yanmar 2QM15 in my 30-1, I need to connect the official Yanmar mixing elbow (OD 1.5) to the orig equipment metal muffler tube (OD 1.25). Anyone have a handy source for a suitable adapter? I have high temp radiator style hoses in both ID sizes. The P.O had a bizarre collection of hardware store galvanized pipe connecting a homemade elbow to the muffler. The pipes always leaked a little. I'm trying to get back to something resembling the original setup. Thanks Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 SIskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine
Those extra rpm's make a difference when being hit head-on by waves, or even chop. The added ability to accelerate faster back up to hull speed will make your average speed over time faster, even though you won't be exceeding hull speed. How fast you recover after a wave slows you down can make quite a difference in how soon you get where you are going. That is why it never hurts to have a few more horsepower. Reaching hull speed in calm flat water is not the goal. Most boats that are considered a bit underpowered have no trouble reaching hull speed when there is no opposition. Of course, going slower than hull speed in those conditions will generally be more comfortable if that is your priority. Bill Bina On 5/27/2014 5:26 PM, via CnC-List wrote: I am told my Beta 25 can run up to 3600 but I reach hull speed at ~ 3200 so running it higher is pointless--the speed is fixed by the combination of rpm/transmission ratio/prop size/LWL. It is loud enough at 3200! Charlie Nelson S/V Water Phantom cenel...@aol.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine
Yanmar 3HM35F 30hp @3200 rpm continuous. 3400rpm for 1hour. 3600rpm max. My manual says to avoid extended operation at high vibation rpm. The Idle/shift/minimum rpm spec is 800. The Kanzaki transmission is required to be shifted less than 1000rpm. I push it as hard and fast as I can while watching and smelling for black smoke. The rpm by analog tach is usually 2500-2800 but by laser-tach it usually adds about 200-400rpm. Boat speed is between 6.0-7.5kts. The throttle lever slips a little so after extended operation the rpms creep down and I'll have to re-throttle up. I don't worry about fuel consumption since I don't use my 40 gallon tank fast enough anyway. I hate running the engine but the noise is basically the same regardless of rpm. I also use a great product called Opti-lube XPD. I strongly recommend it. It is marketed to restore the lubricity that has been lost by ultra low sulfer diesel (ULSD). My expierience is that the engine runs smoother, min idles a little higher and smoother, and can attain a higher rpm before black smoke. My understanding with ALL diesels is that you want to run the engine near full rpm and load as often as possible and the prop should be pitched accordingly. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Yanmar 3HM35F Solomons, MD On May 27, 2014 12:16 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your diesel engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35. I used to stay around 2300, but people tell me diesels like to be worked and I could go higher. My mechanic said don't be afraid to go 2500 or more, but I wonder if he's just looking for more repair income :-) How much do you push your engine? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 100, Issue 69
Curtis -- All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T. E. Lawrence . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T. E. Lawrence . -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140527/70196c9c/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:57:43 -0400 From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning Message-ID: 2aae6aae-da7c-47a7-be03-84a453918...@icloud.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wal: you must be lucky or I am unlucky, my Rule bilge pump float switches last from one to 3 years and this replacement frequency has been going on for the 27 years I've owned my boat! (My last Rule bilge pump lasted about 15 years though--real good service!). I am switching to a completely enclosed sensing type of switch made by Johnson--I hope it lasts much longer! Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140527/aaac79b4/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:19:02 -0400 From: Rick Brass via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com,cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine Message-ID: 4f9e9ba5-ceae-447c-aa59-dd8509fca...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I have an M35B in Imzadi. Max RPM is 3000 for that engine. IIRC the max torque is between 2400 and 2600 RPM - which is consistent with the rule of thumb that max torque is at about 80% of max RPM. Your engine will thank you if you use it regularly and with significant load. Idling for extended periods to charge batteries, it running for long periods at low RPMs is not good for it. But 2300 is pretty close to 2400-2500, so you are probably not doing significant harm. Just don't be afraid of going to 2500. Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On May 27, 2014, at 12:16, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your diesel engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35. I used to stay around 2300, but people tell me diesels like to be worked and I could go higher. My mechanic said don?t be afraid to go 2500 or more, but I wonder if he?s just looking for more repair income :-) How much do you push your engine? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's
Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 100, Issue 69
Fuel filler hose. Do not use anything that is not fuel proof. Someday, you, or someone else will somehow manage to spill enough gasoline or other solvent in the cockpit to melt inferior hoses. It doesn't take much, as many cockpit drain hoses have a low spot where a couple spoonfuls will sit and do its work. That can lead to a LOT of water filling up your boat. CC originally used something very close to this: http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|2243574|2243581id=106386 Bill Bina On 5/27/2014 6:46 PM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List wrote: What is the best hose to use for cockpit drain to thru hulls? Cheers! Alex Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com +1 (416) 203-9858 Office +1 (416) 529-0070 Mobile www.airsensing.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List need adapter to connect mixing elbow 1.5 OD to muffler 1.25 OD
The output of the exhaust elbow on my 1978 YSB12 is threaded on the inside to fit 1 1/4 inch iron pipe, and appears to have been done that way as part of the original installation. The engine installer must have threaded the elbow, since I never heard of them coming that way from Yanmar, but I don't know that for certain. The threads mate with a short nipple, followed by a 90 degree elbow, and then a copper pipe thread to soldered copper pipe adapter fitting instead of a hose barb. This is followed by a foot or less of hose that goes straight to an aluminum can style water lift muffler. All of the above was closely wrapped in asbestos header tape and secured with monel seizing wire spaces about 3/8 of an inch. It would have been a very sharp bend in the hose without these extra fittings. I would never have known what was under the asbestos wrap except that the 90 degree elbow eventually rotted through at the bottom where a little puddle of water sat when the engine was shut off. I really can't complain about the design since it took over 30 years to fail, but that copper part still seems odd. Anyway, if you have or have access to a 1 1/4 inch pipe thread tap, you could tap the inside of the outlet pipe and install a conventional galvanized or bronze hose barb. The stock elbow for your engine should be the same as mine, without the internal threads. Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:49:56 -0500 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List need adapter to connect mixing elbow 1.5 OD to muffler 1.25 OD From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Finishing reinstalling my Yanmar 2QM15 in my 30-1, I need to connect the official Yanmar mixing elbow (OD 1.5) to the orig equipment metal muffler tube (OD 1.25). Anyone have a handy source for a suitable adapter? I have high temp radiator style hoses in both ID sizes. The P.O had a bizarre collection of hardware store galvanized pipe connecting a homemade elbow to the muffler. The pipes always leaked a little. I'm trying to get back to something resembling the original setup. Thanks NateSarah Jean1980 30-1SIskiwit Bay MarinaLake Superior ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 100, Issue 69
with the old one to make sure you have the right ends and length. Rich On May 27, 2014, at 12:44, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a CC30 MK1 with a throttle on the right and a shift on my left on the Edison pedestal. straight up and down motion on them both. Any Idea what cable I would use to replace the shift cable? thanks Curtis -- All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T. E. Lawrence . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T. E. Lawrence . -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140527/70196c9c/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:57:43 -0400 From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning Message-ID: 2aae6aae-da7c-47a7-be03-84a453918...@icloud.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wal: you must be lucky or I am unlucky, my Rule bilge pump float switches last from one to 3 years and this replacement frequency has been going on for the 27 years I've owned my boat! (My last Rule bilge pump lasted about 15 years though--real good service!). I am switching to a completely enclosed sensing type of switch made by Johnson--I hope it lasts much longer! Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140527/aaac79b4/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:19:02 -0400 From: Rick Brass via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com,cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine Message-ID: 4f9e9ba5-ceae-447c-aa59-dd8509fca...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I have an M35B in Imzadi. Max RPM is 3000 for that engine. IIRC the max torque is between 2400 and 2600 RPM - which is consistent with the rule of thumb that max torque is at about 80% of max RPM. Your engine will thank you if you use it regularly and with significant load. Idling for extended periods to charge batteries, it running for long periods at low RPMs is not good for it. But 2300 is pretty close to 2400-2500, so you are probably not doing significant harm. Just don't be afraid of going to 2500. Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On May 27, 2014, at 12:16, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Curious to know what you set as your own
Re: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning
you wrote: Any thoughts on the discharge? Yes, beyond a shadow of a doubt I would put the discharge output above the waterline at any point of sail at any time. All of mine are just below the toe rail aft. They have been underwater, but that was my mistake. There was one time when I had a passenger on board who honestly weighed about 300 pounds, and that really messed up the lines. He was an 'expert' and invited himself onto my boat after I rebuilt the rig. I hear he now sails a trawler. I have a check valve on the little 500 pump. I can honestly say that I'd rather have a check valve than not have one. The hose run is long, but it's better than a siphon when the rails are under water. To be honest, I've learned that my boat sails best when the rails are about 8-14 inches off the water. So I manage my sails appropriately. But, really, Gotta go. My stereo just blasted out Jimmy B's 'why don't we get skunked and draw' followed by Joan Jetts cover of Tommy James and the Shondells's Crimson and Clover. And I still can't find the darn remote to turn it off. And I met this woman today who swore she knew a better brand of tequila than the one I've been nursing for the last 25 years. I don't believe it, but heck, there's always a chance. Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart -
you wrote: snip There is a*lot* more to the story of Rebel Heart. You can find out all about it in the usual places. Long Story Short is the wife has issues, they never should have left Mexico, snip Sorry, but as long as I'm drinking and feel a sudden need to share, I can only say this: *YUP* They are still maintaining that they have seven years cruising experience, but what they really mean is that they bought the boat seven years ago. I am really tired of newbies claiming to be expert cruisers just because they bought a heavy full keel boat and know how to talk on the radio. Heck, a few years ago I met a blonde from Los Angeles (or was it San Diego) who claimed to have 11 years cruising experience. She found a guy who would make all her dreams come true. He dumped her. She's now a true brunette, trying to find the next bigger better deal. She still talks on the radio. The web site, which once proclaimed her experience as a 'marketing professional' now has her picture turned sideways. Guess who's paying for it. Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine
Edd, My Universal 25XPB has a max rpm (one hour) of 2900-3000 rpm. The manual states cruise is 80% of that. I run 2450 rpm as cruise. The engine seems to like it. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your diesel engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35. I used to stay around 2300, but people tell me diesels like to be worked and I could go higher. My mechanic said don’t be afraid to go 2500 or more, but I wonder if he’s just looking for more repair income :-) How much do you push your engine? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Drop-in refrigerators. Any experience?
Hi, I've been pondering about purchasing and installing a drop-in refrigerator for my ice box. Its that time of year already. Looking for advice, and possible model recommendations in case others have gone that route. Considering Engel or Isotherm models, but open to others. Thanks for your advice and input. Tim Malletts Bay, VT CC 29' Mk1 S/V Sly Fox ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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the right ends and length. Rich On May 27, 2014, at 12:44, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a CC30 MK1 with a throttle on the right and a shift on my left on the Edison pedestal. straight up and down motion on them both. Any Idea what cable I would use to replace the shift cable? thanks Curtis -- All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T. E. Lawrence . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T. E. Lawrence . -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140527/70196c9c/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:57:43 -0400 From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning Message-ID: 2aae6aae-da7c-47a7-be03-84a453918...@icloud.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wal: you must be lucky or I am unlucky, my Rule bilge pump float switches last from one to 3 years and this replacement frequency has been going on for the 27 years I've owned my boat! (My last Rule bilge pump lasted about 15 years though--real good service!). I am switching to a completely enclosed sensing type of switch made by Johnson--I hope it lasts much longer! Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140527/aaac79b4/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:19:02 -0400 From: Rick Brass via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com,cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine Message-ID: 4f9e9ba5-ceae-447c-aa59-dd8509fca...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I have an M35B in Imzadi. Max RPM is 3000 for that engine. IIRC the max torque is between 2400 and 2600 RPM - which is consistent with the rule of thumb that max torque is at about 80% of max RPM. Your engine will thank you if you use it regularly and with significant load. Idling for extended periods to charge batteries, it running for long periods at low RPMs is not good for it. But 2300 is pretty close to 2400-2500, so you are probably not doing significant harm. Just don't be afraid of going to 2500. Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On May 27, 2014, at 12:16, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your diesel engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35. I used to stay around 2300, but people tell me
Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine
Josh Aha...I have been wondering about the apparent inability of my 3HM35F to run at much of anything above 3000 RPM, even in neutral. The variance from the 20 year old analog tach would account for that. I have been running at about 24-2600 RPM on the tach, which, if that variance from actual on mine as it was on yours, it makes perfect sense. thx...I feel much better now... Tom B Tom Buscaglia SV Alera CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com At 03:49 PM 5/27/2014, you wrote: Message: 7 Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 18:44:55 -0400 From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine Message-ID: ca+zacrd3fh6n4s8+tew-3-1w_jga4ver9onjob1xctjjlce...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Yanmar 3HM35F 30hp @3200 rpm continuous. 3400rpm for 1hour. 3600rpm max. My manual says to avoid extended operation at high vibation rpm. The Idle/shift/minimum rpm spec is 800. The Kanzaki transmission is required to be shifted less than 1000rpm. I push it as hard and fast as I can while watching and smelling for black smoke. The rpm by analog tach is usually 2500-2800 but by laser-tach it usually adds about 200-400rpm. Boat speed is between 6.0-7.5kts. The throttle lever slips a little so after extended operation the rpms creep down and I'll have to re-throttle up. I don't worry about fuel consumption since I don't use my 40 gallon tank fast enough anyway. I hate running the engine but the noise is basically the same regardless of rpm. I also use a great product called Opti-lube XPD. I strongly recommend it. It is marketed to restore the lubricity that has been lost by ultra low sulfer diesel (ULSD). My expierience is that the engine runs smoother, min idles a little higher and smoother, and can attain a higher rpm before black smoke. My understanding with ALL diesels is that you want to run the engine near full rpm and load as often as possible and the prop should be pitched accordingly. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Yanmar 3HM35F Solomons, MD On May 27, 2014 12:16 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your diesel engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35. ...snip... To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140527/7ea8bfc4/attachment-0001.html -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List First time out at the helm
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Curtis, dig the old cable out and go to your marine supplier with the old one to make sure you have the right ends and length. Rich On May 27, 2014, at 12:44, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a CC30 MK1 with a throttle on the right and a shift on my left on the Edison pedestal. straight up and down motion on them both. Any Idea what cable I would use to replace the shift cable? thanks Curtis -- All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T. E. Lawrence . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T. E. Lawrence . -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140527/70196c9c/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:57:43 -0400 From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Bilge pump installation - was Re: Bilge Pump Cleaning Message-ID: 2aae6aae-da7c-47a7-be03-84a453918...@icloud.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wal: you must be lucky or I am unlucky, my Rule bilge pump float switches last from one to 3 years and this replacement frequency has been going on for the 27 years I've owned my boat! (My last Rule bilge pump lasted about 15 years though--real good service!). I am switching to a completely enclosed sensing type of switch made by Johnson--I hope it lasts much longer! Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140527/aaac79b4/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:19:02 -0400 From: Rick Brass via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com,cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine Message-ID: 4f9e9ba5-ceae-447c-aa59-dd8509fca...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I have an M35B in Imzadi. Max RPM is 3000 for that engine. IIRC the max torque is between 2400 and 2600 RPM - which is consistent with the rule of thumb that max torque is at about 80% of max RPM. Your engine will thank you if you use it regularly and with significant load. Idling for extended periods to charge batteries, it running for long periods at low RPMs is not good for it. But 2300 is pretty close to 2400-2500, so you are probably not doing significant harm. Just don't be afraid of going to 2500. Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On May 27, 2014, at 12:16, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on your diesel engine? The Enterprise has an Universal M35
Re: Stus-List First time out at the helm
A first outing that didn't involve the insurance company is a success! I think my first outing was accompanied by mumbling (or outright talk) of an idiot at the helm, luckily we were leaving that club to take the boat to a new home. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-05-27 9:34 PM, via CnC-List wrote: Since my darling husband decided to jump ship and file for divorce, I left the dock with myself at the helm just this past weekend. My brother and his buddy who knows nothing about sAiling were along and I'm so glad they were. Leaving the dock wAs a bit tricky since the tide and wind was against us and against the Atomic 4. We wound up backing out of the marina breakwaters after fending off successfully several boats. Embarrassing? Yes but a great lesson. And unfortunately upon return, there were mumblings about a woman at the helm . It wasn't pretty but there was no damage. Barbara Hickson Fellers ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Hi Barbara, I will join others in supporting your first time out, well done. Know that once he jumps ship like that he no longer holds the title D.H. but also consider the improvement to the boats performance, a couple o' hundred pounds lighter ... much more if you include the junk he insisted on packing around :) I will guess you have a furling jib. These wonderful devices can turn evil in slow speed maneuvering. The wind may influence your bow and unbalance your turning effort to either work for or against you. Combine that with current and no two days are alike it seems. You made a good decision to work with the boat and guide her out of the marina as she wished. What is the yacht's name model? Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 P.S. friendly reminder to strip extraneous text from digest message before posting, thanks At 05:34 PM 27/05/2014, you wrote: Since my darling husband decided to jump ship and file for divorce, I left the dock with myself at the helm just this past weekend. My brother and his buddy who knows nothing about sAiling were along and I'm so glad they were. Leaving the dock wAs a bit tricky since the tide and wind was against us and against the Atomic 4. We wound up backing out of the marina breakwaters after fending off successfully several boats. Embarrassing? Yes but a great lesson. And unfortunately upon return, there were mumblings about a woman at the helm . It wasn't pretty but there was no damage. Barbara Hickson Fellers ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
