Re: Stus-List Rigging Problem
Feather into the breeze a little...but not enough to affect speed. Watch your speedo. You will be fully powered up in that much breeze so your weather telltales on the jib should be almost always lifting a little...or even a lot, in the puffs. Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Jun 27, 2014, at 18:49, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: With that much wind you are on the cusp of reefing the main. Do you add main halyard tension? Cunningham? Outhaul? Ease the mainsheet ( not the traveler) to let the top of the main twist off. Move the jib car aft a couple inches. If you are heeling more than 20 degrees you will be slow. Joel On Friday, June 27, 2014, David Jacobs via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Dennis, In response to your questions, · The boat is a 6’ keel · Brand new Thurston (albeit cruising but really nicely shaped) sails (main and 135%) · Rake is something I need some education about. The mast was pulled and I added all new rod rigging and a Harken Furler so the rake is whatever it was when the boatyard (Burr Brothers in Marion) stepped the mast. So, how do I measure it and what’s the proper amount of rake? · Trim was good. Very experience crew who is in the industry and has been racing since the age of 8 trimming the jib and the main telltales were streaming well (front of the jib and back of the main trimmed well). 4” off the lower spreader and just off the top spreader. · 1500 pounds on the backstay to take the sag out of the head stay (taken off when off the wind). Slight bend in the mast but I don’t have a quantitative answer. · I was totally focused on sailing to the genoa tell tales which we kept streaming evenly up and down the genoa. However the “grove” between pinching and too far off the wind seemed very tight (maybe not enough halyard tension?). · Wind was 15-18 knots and I was not able to point as high as the others including the other 35 MK3. Also it appears that the skipper of the other CC MK3 can sail his boat flatter. Yes, he did have more crew on the rail but I’ve seen this in other races also when it wasn’t as windy. So, I’m wondering if this particular design likes to sail slightly pinched. · Bottom cleaned two days prior to the race and every three weeks. Any help appreciated. Need to improve or my crew might mutiny L Dave From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 5:13 PM To: CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigging Problem Tell us more. Deep keel or centerboard? 1. Sails? Old? Bagged out? 2. Rake? Need to hear from other 35-3 owners. 3. Trim? How tight? How far off speaders? 4. Mast bend? How much? 5. Genoa lead? Were the tell tales breaking evenly up and down the genoa? 6. Angle vs course. Was your angle the same as the others or were you pointed lower. If pointed the same what were the wind conditions? Were you getting pushed sideways? Dennis C. On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 1:27 PM, David Jacobs via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Great wind for a Wednesday evening club race, great start, and then got smoked by three other boats one of which was another CC 35 MK3. I had just had the bottom cleaned, had plenty of boat speed but I just couldn’t point as high as the others. Any suggestions on where I should start to look for an answer? Dave Saltaire CC 35 MK3 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List . Re: Yanmar 2GM20 Starter Not Starting / Engaging
I'm out cruising so I can't do the research to find a link to the info but... If you google around enough you should find some info on a known Yanmar 2GM20 issue involving the starter relay. IF this is your problem, it won't be fixed without installing a second relay. I don't know how many years they made them like this but I'm gonna guess yours is approx a 1988? If I get to a wifi signal and can use my iPad I'll try and find more info Rob Gallagher. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Rigging Problem
I set my mast rake at 10-12”, measured at boom level. I hoist my tool box on the main halyard so it is just off the deck. It keeps the halyard straight and steady. Measure from the aft side of the mast to the halyard. You can make small adjustments by lengthening or shortening the forestay. If you are way off, you make need to move the blocks at the base of the mast. Remember, we’re setting mast rake, not prebend. That’s a whole other subject. Jake Jake Brodersen “Midnight Mistress” CC 35 Mk-III Hampton Va From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 6:54 PM To: Joel Aronson; CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigging Problem Can you 35-3 owners help him with the rake? I know that my 35-1 wants a minimum of 10-12 aft of the gooseneck with a plumb line from the masthead. Basically, as much as you can stand without excessive weather helm. Dennis C. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List . Re: Yanmar 2GM20 Starter Not Starting / Engaging
Also disconnect the wiring harness connector, clean the puns, coat with TefGel or Boeshield T-8 and reconnect. Dennis C. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 28, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I'm out cruising so I can't do the research to find a link to the info but... If you google around enough you should find some info on a known Yanmar 2GM20 issue involving the starter relay. IF this is your problem, it won't be fixed without installing a second relay. I don't know how many years they made them like this but I'm gonna guess yours is approx a 1988? If I get to a wifi signal and can use my iPad I'll try and find more info Rob Gallagher. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List LF38 Dodger available...
I am replacing my aging-but-serviceable Dodger and SS Frame with a full enclosure. The Zippers have been replaced. The vinyl windows could be restored with the right kit...I have the Aurora one that would go also if I can find it. If any LF38 owner is interested..it is yours for the taking. Sunbrella Pacific Blue. I just hate to toss it...Pic's available upon request. Spencer Johnson 1984 CC LF 38 Alegria #165 ~~~_/) * Mount Prospect, IL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List LF38 Dodger available...
Spencer -- What do you mean by a full enclosure? Do you mean hard dodger, or just a new dodger designed to mate with a bimini and side panels? I'm just curious, but wouldn't mind seeing pics when you're done. PS. You are in Mt Prospect IL? I lived there as a child, at 121 N. Willie St. I just Google mapped it and the little house looks basically like it did in 1967. (It actually faces Thayer St.)Back then there were towering Elm trees all down the block, but Dutch Elm disease turned the neighborhood into a graveyard of empty stumps. It's good to see some nice 40 year old trees providing some shade. I still have some relatives in the area who race on Lake Michigan. As a funny aside, about ten years ago one of my cousins tried to bait me and asked 'Is it true what they say, that if you can sail the SF Bay you can sail anywhere in the world?' Not being a fish, I didn't rise to the bait. I just said 'Personally, I wouldn't say that. It's a big Effing world.' (I'd also been out on Lake Michigan when the cold wind howls down from Canada and develops a 300 mile fetch that can define square waves.) Wal Spencer wrote: I am replacing my aging-but-serviceable Dodger and SS Frame with a full enclosure. The Zippers have been replaced. 1984 CC LF 38 Alegria #165 Mount Prospect, IL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Signet SL 172 Depth Gauge
Coquina is on about the 4th or 5th depth finder with the 200 KHz transducer that was installed the first time we hauled out after we bought her in 1977. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Brad Crawford via CnC-List Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 9:21 PM To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Signet SL 172 Depth Gauge My Coastal Navigator DDS 200 depth gauge which is no longer in business seems to have retired itself. I'm thinking the instrument itself has gone bad, not the transducer. We just had the boat out of the water in April for fresh bottom paint, so I really don't want to pull her out again to replace the transducer. I'm hoping the existing transducer will work with a new depth gauge instrument such as a Signet SL172 depth gauge. I talked to Signet and they believe it should work, as most transducers operate on 200 kHz. Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with replacing their depth gauge using the existing transducer, what kind did you use, and did it work ok? I'm thinking about the Signet Gauge to match the existing knot log, wind speed, and apparent wind indicator, which are all Signet. Any suggestions? Thanks, Brad 81' CnC 36 Seattle Sent from my iPad ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List LF38 Dodger available...
Full Enclosure, to me, means 2X4's and gyproc. Maybe a couple of opening sash windows, little doors by the winches so you can get full swing, a nice little fireplace in the corner. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 28 June 2014 17:17, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Spencer -- What do you mean by a full enclosure? Do you mean hard dodger, or just a new dodger designed to mate with a bimini and side panels? I'm just curious, but wouldn't mind seeing pics when you're done. PS. You are in Mt Prospect IL? I lived there as a child, at 121 N. Willie St. I just Google mapped it and the little house looks basically like it did in 1967. (It actually faces Thayer St.)Back then there were towering Elm trees all down the block, but Dutch Elm disease turned the neighborhood into a graveyard of empty stumps. It's good to see some nice 40 year old trees providing some shade. I still have some relatives in the area who race on Lake Michigan. As a funny aside, about ten years ago one of my cousins tried to bait me and asked 'Is it true what they say, that if you can sail the SF Bay you can sail anywhere in the world?' Not being a fish, I didn't rise to the bait. I just said 'Personally, I wouldn't say that. It's a big Effing world.' (I'd also been out on Lake Michigan when the cold wind howls down from Canada and develops a 300 mile fetch that can define square waves.) Wal Spencer wrote: I am replacing my aging-but-serviceable Dodger and SS Frame with a full enclosure. The Zippers have been replaced. 1984 CC LF 38 Alegria #165 Mount Prospect, IL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List . Re: Yanmar 2GM20 Starter Not Starting / Engaging
Yes, especially puns like: Why is Molson Canadian beer like having sex on the beach? It's f*cking near water. So, ya replace the you and everything is O.K. :) Cheers, Russ At 07:15 AM 28/06/2014, you wrote: Also disconnect the wiring harness connector, clean the puns, coat with TefGel or Boeshield T-8 and reconnect. Dennis C. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 28, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I'm out cruising so I can't do the research to find a link to the info but... If you google around enough you should find some info on a known Yanmar 2GM20 issue involving the starter relay. IF this is your problem, it won't be fixed without installing a second relay. I don't know how many years they made them like this but I'm gonna guess yours is approx a 1988? If I get to a wifi signal and can use my iPad I'll try and find more info Rob Gallagher. ___ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
