Re: Stus-List swan
We chartered a Swan a few years ago. The agent was giving me the tour lift the (beautiful teak and holly) floorboards with the special tooleach floorboard sits on an aluminum angle frame all welded together to make a grid... beautiful welds...all water lines and such are labeled and have valves etc. All are accessible... the plumbing and electrical routing is impeccable.. and so forth. They are works of mechanical art and for the price they should be... Gary (I still like my 30-1) - Original Message - From: Brent Driedger via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CC List Canada cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 12:31 AM Subject: Stus-List swan This is a little off topic but somehow we can make this CC related. Why do Nautor Swan sailboats cost so much money? I understand they're very well built boats however a 35-year-old Swan still costs over 20 times more than a CC of comparable size. Blisters and all! Brent Driedger 27-5 Lake Winnipeg ( will never afford a swan) Sent from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Atkins Hoyle hatch
Atkins and Hoyle are still in business and will refurbish and repair old hatches. My brother just had his done recently. I'm sure you can Google them. Eric Atkins has relocated the facility to Trenton, ON, just west of Kingston. On 2014-06-30 12:12 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Does anyone happen to have an old hatch model 200 laying around? Somehow the frame broke coming back from Bermuda. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Atkins Hoyle hatch
Joel, Is it an atkins hoyle or Bomar? My 1985 CC 33-ll had Bomar, if so I have one …. Paul Fountain From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: June 30, 2014 12:12 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Atkins Hoyle hatch Does anyone happen to have an old hatch model 200 laying around? Somehow the frame broke coming back from Bermuda. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List 1967 CC 41' Yawl?
If this was discussed I somehow missed it. 1967 CC Yawl for 35k. Looks beautiful but they seem to be having difficulty selling. What's wrong with this picture? http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/category/type/CC/41+Yawl Ron ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 1967 CC 41' Yawl?
Ron, She does look nice, but you are talking about a 47 year old yawl. There is a pretty small pool of buyers out there for that boat. I'm surprised to see 286 CC's listed on Yachtworld. Would have guessed way lower. Joel On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Ron Kaye via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: If this was discussed I somehow missed it. 1967 CC Yawl for 35k. Looks beautiful but they seem to be having difficulty selling. What's wrong with this picture? http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/category/type/CC/41+Yawl Ron ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Atkins Hoyle hatch
Paul, if Joel doesn't take the Hatch, I need on too! My 1985 spec sheet states AH model 210, but the hatch is Bomar hatch... go figure? Richard 1985 37 CB; Ohio River Mile 593 (this week anyway...) 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Paul Fountain via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com; cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tue, Jul 1, 2014 10:18 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Atkins Hoyle hatch Joel, Is it an atkins hoyle or Bomar? My 1985 CC 33-ll had Bomar, if so I have one …. Paul Fountain From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: June 30, 2014 12:12 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Atkins Hoyle hatch Does anyone happen to have an old hatch model 200 laying around? Somehow the frame broke coming back from Bermuda. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List AH 4000 Questions
My autopilot has developed 2 annoying behaviours. One is it will release on its own at times. I need a bungee on the engagement lever or it will creep up and let go at random times. The other one is despite the gasket looking good, water gets in the computer box. I have to drain it every now and then or it starts shorting out the buttons and making it do random things. Anyone know what is up with this? Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List AH 4000 Questions
Joe, Must be the auto obsolescence feature ... Paul Fountain Managing Director SeaSource Inc. Bookkeeping IT Services. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: July 1, 2014 12:20 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List AH 4000 Questions My autopilot has developed 2 annoying behaviours. One is it will release on its own at times. I need a bungee on the engagement lever or it will creep up and let go at random times. The other one is despite the gasket looking good, water gets in the computer box. I have to drain it every now and then or it starts shorting out the buttons and making it do random things. Anyone know what is up with this? Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List swan -- Canada Day
Hi Brent, Maybe 'cause the CDN has dropped compare to Euro? :) Seriously though, Happy Anniversary Canada. Only 147 years as a nation. This is a little late in the morning since the missus I had a really nice sleep-in after working 14, twelve or more hour days on an annual boiler shutdown. Kinda tired, maybe go for a sail this afternoon. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 east Vancouver island At 09:31 PM 30/06/2014, you wrote: This is a little off topic but somehow we can make this CC related. Why do Nautor Swan sailboats cost so much money? I understand they're very well built boats however a 35-year-old Swan still costs over 20 times more than a CC of comparable size. Blisters and all! Brent Driedger 27-5 Lake Winnipeg ( will never afford a swan) Sent from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List cc design 41ft yawl
certainly looks original...bruckmann built maybe hull layed up by belleville marine...lister not to well informed ...is fin keel ,spade rudder,is not a hull with core ..as first was redjacket ..this hull probably taken from modified crusader hull mold sometime in 1965 or66...this is a great sailing hull..excellent buy and well worth the price unless some unseen problem...which would be easily repaired..not redline 41 hull mould as they arrived late 1967 and first two hulls laid up and then mould used as swimming pool later 41s new mould.part of selling is ease of viewing ...suspect boat on mooring not easy to get at.however great boat someone missing out onsimilar bruckmann 40 41 hulls being sold for 55 to 7 dollars... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List cc design 41ft yawl
Does the boat have any interior cushions? Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Kelly via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 2:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List cc design 41ft yawl certainly looks original...bruckmann built maybe hull layed up by belleville marine...lister not to well informed ...is fin keel ,spade rudder,is not a hull with core ..as first was redjacket ..this hull probably taken from modified crusader hull mold sometime in 1965 or66...this is a great sailing hull..excellent buy and well worth the price unless some unseen problem...which would be easily repaired..not redline 41 hull mould as they arrived late 1967 and first two hulls laid up and then mould used as swimming pool later 41s new mould.part of selling is ease of viewing ...suspect boat on mooring not easy to get at.however great boat someone missing out onsimilar bruckmann 40 41 hulls being sold for 55 to 7 dollars... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List swan
In 1998 when we first looked at buying Calypso the listing said Swan like quality at a CC price or something to that effect. Having been recently crawling around in all of Calypso's deep dark recesses performing deck repair work I would have appreciated a higher level of attention to detail by the lay-up crew. The Swan's I have sailed on had a much more complete finish inside and out (glass work, joinery, wiring, etc.). You could run your hand around storage area and not catch some skin on a rough bit of glass. Add that to the brand's reputation and air of exclusiveness the higher market pricing and resale value seem to hold up. Much like a comparison between a Bentley and a Cadillac. One dark and stormy night, off the Washington coast in more wind than was fun, I was reassured by the SS design and Swan build of a late 60's Swan 65 ketch. The 100,000 lbs. of boat felt strong and stable. I would have been nervous on a lesser boat designed and built to a market and price point well below Swan, or for that matter below 70's CCs. A Bendytoy 42 I delivered down the west coast would have in deep trouble in those seas. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Brent Driedger via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 9:32 PM To: CC List Canada Subject: Stus-List swan This is a little off topic but somehow we can make this CC related. Why do Nautor Swan sailboats cost so much money? I understand they're very well built boats however a 35-year-old Swan still costs over 20 times more than a CC of comparable size. Blisters and all! Brent Driedger 27-5 Lake Winnipeg ( will never afford a swan) Sent from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List AH 4000 Questions
I have the same Auto Obsolescence 4000 auto pilot. Thankfully it still works like a charm* (though it comes in the cabin when not actively in use). *We will see if it is still charming after our trip over the Columbia Bar and up the coast to Victoria, BC on Friday... KD Kevin Driscoll Portland, Oregon 503 // 875 // 3493 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: My autopilot has developed 2 annoying behaviours. One is it will release on its own at times. I need a bungee on the engagement lever or it will creep up and let go at random times. The other one is despite the gasket looking good, water gets in the computer box. I have to drain it every now and then or it starts shorting out the buttons and making it do random things. Anyone know what is up with this? Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List butyl cleanup?
Planning on cleaning and painting the storage areas on our 30-1. The wonderfully immortal butyl hull/deck sealant has dripped and drooped in many places. Any tips on the best cleanup strategy? (PS. It was gusting 30-35 knots and 86F in the marina Sunday, but half a mile out our neighbors reported 40 degrees F and that their winter parkas were not enough so they came back in) Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List butyl cleanup?
I'd remove as much as possible with a plastic putty knife, and then use mineral spirits to dissolve the rest. IIRC, Denatured Alchohol also works, but don't remember for sure. you wrote: Any tips on the best cleanup strategy? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List butyl cleanup?
Coleman camp fuel works the best for cleanup Sent from Joe Bognar On Jul 1, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Planning on cleaning and painting the storage areas on our 30-1. The wonderfully immortal butyl hull/deck sealant has dripped and drooped in many places. Any tips on the best cleanup strategy? (PS. It was gusting 30-35 knots and 86F in the marina Sunday, but half a mile out our neighbors reported 40 degrees F and that their winter parkas were not enough so they came back in) Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List butyl cleanup?
Butyl cleans up easiest when it's cold. Get it early in the morning or go offshore for a while. Long Olfa knife blades and patience. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Planning on cleaning and painting the storage areas on our 30-1. The wonderfully immortal butyl hull/deck sealant has dripped and drooped in many places. Any tips on the best cleanup strategy? (PS. It was gusting 30-35 knots and 86F in the marina Sunday, but half a mile out our neighbors reported 40 degrees F and that their winter parkas were not enough so they came back in) Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Atkins Hoyle hatch
You can contact them via email: atkinsho...@dapa.com Marek From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Mazza via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:10 AM To: CC Mailing List; Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List Atkins Hoyle hatch Atkins and Hoyle are still in business and will refurbish and repair old hatches. My brother just had his done recently. I'm sure you can Google them. Eric Atkins has relocated the facility to Trenton, ON, just west of Kingston. On 2014-06-30 12:12 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Does anyone happen to have an old hatch model 200 laying around? Somehow the frame broke coming back from Bermuda. -- Joel 301 541 8551 tel:301%20541%208551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List AH 4000 Questions
Hey, come on up, it's beautiful here! Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 1 July 2014 11:45, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have the same Auto Obsolescence 4000 auto pilot. Thankfully it still works like a charm* (though it comes in the cabin when not actively in use). *We will see if it is still charming after our trip over the Columbia Bar and up the coast to Victoria, BC on Friday... KD Kevin Driscoll Portland, Oregon 503 // 875 // 3493 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: My autopilot has developed 2 annoying behaviours. One is it will release on its own at times. I need a bungee on the engagement lever or it will creep up and let go at random times. The other one is despite the gasket looking good, water gets in the computer box. I have to drain it every now and then or it starts shorting out the buttons and making it do random things. Anyone know what is up with this? Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
