Re: Stus-List remove head sink on c n c 32?
My 35/3 has a molded insert for the vanity, sink etc. Working on the pump is a PIA! I've had to replace the pump twice in the last 2 years. The Jabsco pumps with the quick release hose fittings make it a little less painful. My only advice is to get a good cushion to kneel on and a wide angle flashlight. Joel On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:23 PM, McElwreath, Daniel via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Before going in the water this Spring I replaced all the waste hose and ran thru the vanity in head. This week I had to rebuild the par shower drain pump so I had to remove that. My question: Can the head sink be removed to allow access? Working thru the small vanity door is an absolute BEAR. I have been reluctant to try and put the pump back, only because it is such a pain. I was even thinking of cutting the vanity wall out, including the little door, and then reglassing when finished. But I know what that would look like. Thanks for any advice. Dan Mc on Tively II in City Island, NY ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List remove head sink on c n c 32?
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of McElwreath, Daniel via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 12:24 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List remove head sink on c n c 32? Before going in the water this Spring I replaced all the waste hose and ran thru the vanity in head. This week I had to rebuild the par shower drain pump so I had to remove that. My question: Can the head sink be removed to allow access? Working thru the small vanity door is an absolute BEAR. I have been reluctant to try and put the pump back, only because it is such a pain. I was even thinking of cutting the vanity wall out, including the little door, and then reglassing when finished. But I know what that would look like. Thanks for any advice. Dan Mc on Tively II in City Island, NY ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List remove head sink on c n c 32?
I would try removing the door to the vanity and the door to the head to allow alternate access angles and plenty of padding as has been suggested. I have approached this lying on my side. John Arpeggio From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Jacobs via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 10:32 AM To: 'McElwreath, Daniel'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List remove head sink on c n c 32? From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of McElwreath, Daniel via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 12:24 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List remove head sink on c n c 32? Before going in the water this Spring I replaced all the waste hose and ran thru the vanity in head. This week I had to rebuild the par shower drain pump so I had to remove that. My question: Can the head sink be removed to allow access? Working thru the small vanity door is an absolute BEAR. I have been reluctant to try and put the pump back, only because it is such a pain. I was even thinking of cutting the vanity wall out, including the little door, and then reglassing when finished. But I know what that would look like. Thanks for any advice. Dan Mc on Tively II in City Island, NY ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Sailcloth - Cruising Laminate
Hello all I was taking my summer hiatus from the list but something has come up… For financial reasons I had delayed new sails this winter. Just too many other projects going on. Browsing Bacon’s listings I came across a jib (130%) which is virtually new. Dimensions are near perfect, luff tape is the correct size, suncover is on the correct side and even the right color. I know Bacon well and have no concerns there. Here’s the rub… The sail is listed as a “cruise laminate” by Quantum. Again I have no concerns with either of those pieces of information. Would love to know what the the laminate is but that information is not available. Assume some blend of polyester, mylar and something for strength. My concern is that cloth weight is listed as 4.75 ounce. This for a 40’ boat with a tall rig. Even by Long Island Sound standards that seems terribly light. Price is now down to just over 1/3 the price of a new sail. Any thoughts? John ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sailcloth - Cruising Laminate
I bought a Pentax sail from Quantum Port Washington for my CC 29 considered cruising sail. Might be Pentax. Jerry. CC 27 v JJ. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2014, at 8:15 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hello all I was taking my summer hiatus from the list but something has come up… For financial reasons I had delayed new sails this winter. Just too many other projects going on. Browsing Bacon’s listings I came across a jib (130%) which is virtually new. Dimensions are near perfect, luff tape is the correct size, suncover is on the correct side and even the right color. I know Bacon well and have no concerns there. Here’s the rub… The sail is listed as a “cruise laminate” by Quantum. Again I have no concerns with either of those pieces of information. Would love to know what the the laminate is but that information is not available. Assume some blend of polyester, mylar and something for strength. My concern is that cloth weight is listed as 4.75 ounce. This for a 40’ boat with a tall rig. Even by Long Island Sound standards that seems terribly light. Price is now down to just over 1/3 the price of a new sail. Any thoughts? John ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sailcloth - Cruising Laminate
Here: http://www.dimension-polyant.com/en/Laminate_Cruising_2_3_1.php It's high tech / lightweight s*#t, so it's going to be much lighter than Dacron. I bought a full laminate genoa last season - it's half the Weight (...or less) of my old Dacron 135%. Cruising laminate is going to be somewhere in between. So with a bit of research you can determine if it's going to hold up. A word of warning - don't know about cruising laminate, but regular high tech sails don't slowly blow out over time like Dacron - they suddenly explode! sam :-) Original Message From: John Pennie via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 6:15 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: John Pennie Subject: Stus-List Sailcloth - Cruising Laminate Hello all I was taking my summer hiatus from the list but something has come up… For financial reasons I had delayed new sails this winter. Just too many other projects going on. Browsing Bacon’s listings I came across a jib (130%) which is virtually new. Dimensions are near perfect, luff tape is the correct size, suncover is on the correct side and even the right color. I know Bacon well and have no concerns there. Here’s the rub… The sail is listed as a “cruise laminate” by Quantum. Again I have no concerns with either of those pieces of information. Would love to know what the the laminate is but that information is not available. Assume some blend of polyester, mylar and something for strength. My concern is that cloth weight is listed as 4.75 ounce. This for a 40’ boat with a tall rig. Even by Long Island Sound standards that seems terribly light. Price is now down to just over 1/3 the price of a new sail. Any thoughts? John ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sailcloth - Cruising Laminate
Yea they explode. Boy do they explode. 8k of carbon fibre explode. 2 seasons and a lifetime of lessons. Never again 1981 40-2. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone div Original message /divdivFrom: Sam Salter via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:07/29/2014 9:38 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: CnC cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List Sailcloth - Cruising Laminate /divdiv /div Here: http://www.dimension-polyant.com/en/Laminate_Cruising_2_3_1.php It's high tech / lightweight s*#t, so it's going to be much lighter than Dacron. I bought a full laminate genoa last season - it's half the Weight (...or less) of my old Dacron 135%. Cruising laminate is going to be somewhere in between. So with a bit of research you can determine if it's going to hold up. A word of warning - don't know about cruising laminate, but regular high tech sails don't slowly blow out over time like Dacron - they suddenly explode! sam :-) Original Message From: John Pennie via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 6:15 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: John Pennie Subject: Stus-List Sailcloth - Cruising Laminate Hello all I was taking my summer hiatus from the list but something has come up… For financial reasons I had delayed new sails this winter. Just too many other projects going on. Browsing Bacon’s listings I came across a jib (130%) which is virtually new. Dimensions are near perfect, luff tape is the correct size, suncover is on the correct side and even the right color. I know Bacon well and have no concerns there. Here’s the rub… The sail is listed as a “cruise laminate” by Quantum. Again I have no concerns with either of those pieces of information. Would love to know what the the laminate is but that information is not available. Assume some blend of polyester, mylar and something for strength. My concern is that cloth weight is listed as 4.75 ounce. This for a 40’ boat with a tall rig. Even by Long Island Sound standards that seems terribly light. Price is now down to just over 1/3 the price of a new sail. Any thoughts? John ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sailcloth - Cruising Laminate
Thanks folks. So its very light, worry of mold followed by a big bang? So a little more than half the weight of what one would normally expect in Dacron is the norm? John On Jul 29, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Here: http://www.dimension-polyant.com/en/Laminate_Cruising_2_3_1.php It's high tech / lightweight s*#t, so it's going to be much lighter than Dacron. I bought a full laminate genoa last season - it's half the Weight (...or less) of my old Dacron 135%. Cruising laminate is going to be somewhere in between. So with a bit of research you can determine if it's going to hold up. A word of warning - don't know about cruising laminate, but regular high tech sails don't slowly blow out over time like Dacron - they suddenly explode! sam :-) Original Message From: John Pennie via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 6:15 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: John Pennie Subject: Stus-List Sailcloth - Cruising Laminate Hello all I was taking my summer hiatus from the list but something has come up… For financial reasons I had delayed new sails this winter. Just too many other projects going on. Browsing Bacon’s listings I came across a jib (130%) which is virtually new. Dimensions are near perfect, luff tape is the correct size, suncover is on the correct side and even the right color. I know Bacon well and have no concerns there. Here’s the rub… The sail is listed as a “cruise laminate” by Quantum. Again I have no concerns with either of those pieces of information. Would love to know what the the laminate is but that information is not available. Assume some blend of polyester, mylar and something for strength. My concern is that cloth weight is listed as 4.75 ounce. This for a 40’ boat with a tall rig. Even by Long Island Sound standards that seems terribly light. Price is now down to just over 1/3 the price of a new sail. Any thoughts? John ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sailcloth - Cruising Laminate
John, The Quantum cruising laminate that they sell now has alight layer of dacron to add UV protection to the mylar film. I could look at it for you, but I am a lousy judge of old sails. The weight is probably the weight of the dacron and has nothing to do with strength. Joel On Tuesday, July 29, 2014, John Pennie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hello all I was taking my summer hiatus from the list but something has come up… For financial reasons I had delayed new sails this winter. Just too many other projects going on. Browsing Bacon’s listings I came across a jib (130%) which is virtually new. Dimensions are near perfect, luff tape is the correct size, suncover is on the correct side and even the right color. I know Bacon well and have no concerns there. Here’s the rub… The sail is listed as a “cruise laminate” by Quantum. Again I have no concerns with either of those pieces of information. Would love to know what the the laminate is but that information is not available. Assume some blend of polyester, mylar and something for strength. My concern is that cloth weight is listed as 4.75 ounce. This for a 40’ boat with a tall rig. Even by Long Island Sound standards that seems terribly light. Price is now down to just over 1/3 the price of a new sail. Any thoughts? John ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com javascript:; To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sailcloth - Cruising Laminate
Careful Dave, I got yelled at for talking like that! Bill Coleman CC 39 div Original message /divdivFrom: davidrisch75 via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:07/29/2014 9:49 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com, CnC cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List Sailcloth - Cruising Laminate /divdiv /divYea they explode. Boy do they explode. 8k of carbon fibre explode. 2 seasons and a lifetime of lessons. Never again 1981 40-2. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Sam Salter via CnC-List Date:07/29/2014 9:38 PM (GMT-05:00) To: CnC Subject: Re: Stus-List Sailcloth - Cruising Laminate Here: http://www.dimension-polyant.com/en/Laminate_Cruising_2_3_1.php It's high tech / lightweight s*#t, so it's going to be much lighter than Dacron. I bought a full laminate genoa last season - it's half the Weight (...or less) of my old Dacron 135%. Cruising laminate is going to be somewhere in between. So with a bit of research you can determine if it's going to hold up. A word of warning - don't know about cruising laminate, but regular high tech sails don't slowly blow out over time like Dacron - they suddenly explode! sam :-) Original Message From: John Pennie via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 6:15 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: John Pennie Subject: Stus-List Sailcloth - Cruising Laminate Hello all I was taking my summer hiatus from the list but something has come up… For financial reasons I had delayed new sails this winter. Just too many other projects going on. Browsing Bacon’s listings I came across a jib (130%) which is virtually new. Dimensions are near perfect, luff tape is the correct size, suncover is on the correct side and even the right color. I know Bacon well and have no concerns there. Here’s the rub… The sail is listed as a “cruise laminate” by Quantum. Again I have no concerns with either of those pieces of information. Would love to know what the the laminate is but that information is not available. Assume some blend of polyester, mylar and something for strength. My concern is that cloth weight is listed as 4.75 ounce. This for a 40’ boat with a tall rig. Even by Long Island Sound standards that seems terribly light. Price is now down to just over 1/3 the price of a new sail. Any thoughts? John ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
