Re: Stus-List Running Back Stays
We have them and don't find them a pain in the neck. I use them when it is windy (over 10 to 15 knots) or the seas lumpy. On lighter wind days I don't use them at all. Ken Heaton Anne Tobin S/V Salazar - Can 54955 CC 37/40 XL - Hull # 67 Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia On 28 July 2015 at 00:21, scott gary via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi All, Looking at a 37/40XL and I know they have running back stays, anyone who has them, are they a pain in the neck, or do you not use them all the time. I am not planning on doing much racing, mostly cruising. I've heard of people on other types of boats just removing them all together. Thanks, Scott CC 35/3 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Running Back Stays
I think these may be check stays rather than running backs. Running back stays mostly on fractional rigs and are for downwind sailing as well as trim upwind. Persistence has check stays. We were concerned as you are when we were looking at boat. Other posters are correct. These are for lumpy seas over 15 knots to stop mast from pumping. When light we disconnect and attach to turnbuckles at shrouds. I have a snap shackle to reconnect to blocks on transom when wind comes up. We also changed the lines in the blocks to smaller diameter 60 Ft a side so that when using checks we let the line out downwind rather than disconnecting. These are not the pita we thought they would be but do add one extra thing to do when in use. If all boats were swept back spreaders like cc99 and 115 we would not have this discussion. Mike Persistence 1987 Frees 33 From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of scott gary via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: July 28, 2015 12:21 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: scott gary Subject: Stus-List Running Back Stays Hi All, Looking at a 37/40XL and I know they have running back stays, anyone who has them, are they a pain in the neck, or do you not use them all the time. I am not planning on doing much racing, mostly cruising. I've heard of people on other types of boats just removing them all together. Thanks, Scott CC 35/3 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Original oven and propane stove removed
Peter - I'd recommend keeping the stove in the garage and putting it back in before you sell the boat. Wal ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Black Lid For Pump Out
Ron, Try Marine Outfitters in Kingston. http://www.marineoutfitters.ca I'm surprised that Holland Marine, Fogh (formerly Mason's) or Brewers in Hamilton don't have any. The Binnacle here in Halifax list a replacement cap also. http://ca.binnacle.com/ Good luck in your hunt. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ron Ander via CnC-List Sent: July-28-15 09:37 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ron Ander Subject: Stus-List Black Lid For Pump Out My cover for the pump out (black coloured) lid has gone a.w.o.l. I have been having no success finding a replacement in Toronto. The fresh water and fuel lids are the exact same size and threading. If I could find either one of them I will just paint it black and use it. It is a small item so purchasing it anywhere that can ship will be good. Any ideas? Ron Ander Alchemist - CC 29 Mk 2 1986 Etobicoke Yacht Club. an...@rogers.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6081 / Virus Database: 4392/10324 - Release Date: 07/28/15 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Pegathy's New England Voyage
Dan, I thoroughly enjoyed reading your log, thank you for including it; I can only imagine all of the events which didn't make the log, its those little things that make a trip like this enjoyable!! Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596; Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Daniel Sheer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Cnc-list CNC Boat Owners cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Daniel Sheer dansh...@yahoo.com Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2015 1:07 pm Subject: Stus-List Pegathy's New England Voyage June 5 - 28 2015 in an LF38. Baltimore to Nantucket and back. Log and photos at Pegathy_NE_Voyage Pegathy_NE_Voyage 30_Sailin_in_the_downpour_LymetoNew_Haven.jpg 9:50 am View on drive.google.com Preview by Yahoo Best viewed on Google Drive. Enjoy. Questions answered on the forum. Dan Sheer Pegathy LF38 Rock Creek off the Patapsco ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Black Lid For Pump Out
Hi Ron, if you can't find it locally It's on Amazon and probably a whole lot cheaper. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Dapsfield-keywords=marine+waste+caprh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Amarine+waste+cap West has them too . BTW, I have found many really good deals on Amazon for several other things like this led light to replace my burned-out weather beaten stern light http://www.amazon.com/MARINE-WHITE-NAVIGATION-WATERPROOF-NAUTICAL/dp/B00I0BPZ1U/ref=sr_1_7?s=sporting-goodsie=UTF8qid=1438091021sr=1-7 -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, GA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ron Ander via CnC-List Sent: July-28-15 09:37 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ron Ander Subject: Stus-List Black Lid For Pump Out My cover for the pump out (black coloured) lid has gone a.w.o.l. I have been having no success finding a replacement in Toronto. The fresh water and fuel lids are the exact same size and threading. If I could find either one of them I will just paint it black and use it. It is a small item so purchasing it anywhere that can ship will be good. Any ideas? Ron Ander Alchemist - CC 29 Mk 2 1986 Etobicoke Yacht Club. an...@rogers.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Black Lid For Pump Out
They come in at least 3 different sizes. Measure carefully! Joel On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Ron, Try Marine Outfitters in Kingston. http://www.marineoutfitters.ca I’m surprised that Holland Marine, Fogh (formerly Mason’s) or Brewers in Hamilton don’t have any. The Binnacle here in Halifax list a replacement cap also. http://ca.binnacle.com/ Good luck in your hunt. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Ron Ander via CnC-List *Sent:* July-28-15 09:37 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Ron Ander *Subject:* Stus-List Black Lid For Pump Out My cover for the pump out (black coloured) lid has gone a.w.o.l. I have been having no success finding a replacement in Toronto. The fresh water and fuel lids are the exact same size and threading. If I could find either one of them I will just paint it black and use it. It is a small item so purchasing it anywhere that can ship will be good. Any ideas? Ron Ander Alchemist - CC 29 Mk 2 1986 Etobicoke Yacht Club. an...@rogers.com -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6081 / Virus Database: 4392/10324 - Release Date: 07/28/15 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Yacht Canvas/Bimini Top
Joel, I like Rita at First Class Yacht Services in Pasadena, Md. Very reasonable, good workmanship, real sunbrella, she measures, and everything just fits. If you do enquire, tell her I sent you. Dan SheerPegathy - LF38Rock Creek off the Patapsco ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yacht Canvas/Bimini Top
Dan, Thanks for the referral. I'll mention your name! Joel On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Daniel Sheer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Joel, I like Rita at First Class Yacht Services in Pasadena, Md. Very reasonable, good workmanship, real sunbrella, she measures, and everything just fits. If you do enquire, tell her I sent you. Dan Sheer Pegathy - LF38 Rock Creek off the Patapsco ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Black Lid For Pump Out
Binnacle.com___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Starter
I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for my Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine starts right up. What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start up at the push button switch or at the solenoid? Thanks in advance, Mike Atacama, 33 mkii Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Starter
Do you have power at the panel...if warning lights/buzzer? If not then could be fuse on back of motor that gives power. Otherwise, possible ground at the transmission to enginebolt. Those are two simple but we'll hidden things to check. Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Michael Crombie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 07-28-2015 11:51 (GMT-04:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net Subject: Stus-List Starter I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for my Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine starts right up. What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start up at the push button switch or at the solenoid? Thanks in advance, Mike Atacama, 33 mkii Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Starter
Mike, I had this issue on the Enterprise-A (1978 CC 34) once. It was the solenoid. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Jul 28, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Michael Crombie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for my Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine starts right up. What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start up at the push button switch or at the solenoid? Thanks in advance, Mike Atacama, 33 mkii Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Starter
Start first at the switch. Test for power across the terminals with the button pushed. If no voltage is seen on the 1st push, it is likely the contacts within the switch are dirty. You can sometimes temporarily clean the contacts by multiple pushes of the starter button with the ignition key off. If you have voltage across the button, then check for voltage between the button and the solenoid. Clean the terminals on the wires, button, and solenoid. That you can start on the 2nd button push suggest that the solenoid and fuses are OK. Ed CC 34 Briar Patch New Orleans On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:04 AM, jhnelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Do you have power at the panel...if warning lights/buzzer? If not then could be fuse on back of motor that gives power. Otherwise, possible ground at the transmission to engine bolt. Those are two simple but we'll hidden things to check. Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Michael Crombie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 07-28-2015 11:51 (GMT-04:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net Subject: Stus-List Starter I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for my Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine starts right up. What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start up at the push button switch or at the solenoid? Thanks in advance, Mike Atacama, 33 mkii Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Black Lid For Pump Out
My cover for the pump out (black coloured) lid has gone a.w.o.l. I have been having no success finding a replacement in Toronto. The fresh water and fuel lids are the exact same size and threading. If I could find either one of them I will just paint it black and use it. It is a small item so purchasing it anywhere that can ship will be good. Any ideas? Ron Ander Alchemist - CC 29 Mk 2 1986 Etobicoke Yacht Club. an...@rogers.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Original oven and propane stove removed
PeterCan you send me a picture, make and the dimensions please. John on Enterprise On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:38 AM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Peter - I'd recommend keeping the stove in the garage and putting it back in before you sell the boat. Wal ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Starter
Hi Mike, This happens to me a few times each year. I will try to start with the switch up to 3 times before I go looking. Most times it starts on the second or third attempt. FTC (failure to crank) is most often resolved by wiggling the connections on the fuse at the back of the head. A couple of times the connections at the back of the panel enjoyed caressing. Someday I will deal with the issue but today is not the day. Tomorrow doesn't look so good either. :) The weather is truly grand on the West Coast these past months. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 Ex A4, current is Yanmar 2QM20, next is a Universal 25 (on a dolly in the shed) At 07:51 AM 28/07/2015, you wrote: I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for my Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine starts right up. What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start up at the push button switch or at the solenoid? Thanks in advance, Mike Atacama, 33 mkii Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Starter
Hi Mike, My guess is bad contacts on the switch. I am starting there as it is a cheap and easy fix. Since it's a 25 year old switch that makes sense to replace anyway. I have noticed that the switch feels 'mushy and it's been doing the miss intermittently over the past 2-3 times I've used the boat.I am replacing mine this evening or tomorrow. It's Yanmar part # 124070-91300 I ordered it from Marine Outfitters of Canada http://www.marineoutfitters.ca/1-888-732-8883 I Had to order it from Canada as Yanmar has territories in the US and none of the authorized online guys seem to ship to Georgia. He has good prices and a good selection too. He's in Kingston. I hope that does the trick. -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier Subject: Stus-List Starter I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for my Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine starts right up. What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start up at the push button switch or at the solenoid? Thanks in advance, Mike Atacama, 33 mkii Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoy? sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le r?seau de Bell. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yacht Canvas/Bimini Top
Cavco canvas 305 481 3443. Ted Cavender. Kent island Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2015, at 10:04, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Dan, Thanks for the referral. I'll mention your name! Joel On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Daniel Sheer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Joel, I like Rita at First Class Yacht Services in Pasadena, Md. Very reasonable, good workmanship, real sunbrella, she measures, and everything just fits. If you do enquire, tell her I sent you. Dan Sheer Pegathy - LF38 Rock Creek off the Patapsco ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Running Back Stays
The check stays are also used in light air to put shape back in the sail. The offshore rigs are super bendy. If you want to reduce headstay sag and still have shape in the main you need to use these in light wind. Eric 34/36 On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 6:25 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I think these may be check stays rather than running backs. Running back stays mostly on fractional rigs and are for downwind sailing as well as trim upwind. Persistence has check stays. We were concerned as you are when we were looking at boat. Other posters are correct. These are for lumpy seas over 15 knots to stop mast from pumping. When light we disconnect and attach to turnbuckles at shrouds. I have a snap shackle to reconnect to blocks on transom when wind comes up. We also changed the lines in the blocks to smaller diameter 60 Ft a side so that when using checks we let the line out downwind rather than disconnecting. These are not the pita we thought they would be but do add one extra thing to do when in use. If all boats were swept back spreaders like cc99 and 115 we would not have this discussion. Mike Persistence 1987 Frees 33 From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of scott gary via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: July 28, 2015 12:21 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: scott gary Subject: Stus-List Running Back Stays Hi All, Looking at a 37/40XL and I know they have running back stays, anyone who has them, are they a pain in the neck, or do you not use them all the time. I am not planning on doing much racing, mostly cruising. I've heard of people on other types of boats just removing them all together. Thanks, Scott CC 35/3 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Starter
Had the same symptoms last year. Tested the voltage across the start button terminals on the back of the panel and found 12+ volts so concluded that was not the issue, but could not find the cause. The mechanic tested and found the same voltage, but insufficient current. There were partial breaks in some of the wires at / inside the wire harness that at times would connect and other times not, until it quit completely. He cut the harness out and using butt connectors directly wired the panel. Worked every time since. Moral of the story; check voltage and current. And any wiring fault can lead to what appears to be a faulty start button. Brian From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edward Levert via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:18 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Edward Levert weeselev...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Starter Start first at the switch. Test for power across the terminals with the button pushed. If no voltage is seen on the 1st push, it is likely the contacts within the switch are dirty. You can sometimes temporarily clean the contacts by multiple pushes of the starter button with the ignition key off. If you have voltage across the button, then check for voltage between the button and the solenoid. Clean the terminals on the wires, button, and solenoid. That you can start on the 2nd button push suggest that the solenoid and fuses are OK. Ed CC 34 Briar Patch New Orleans On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:04 AM, jhnelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Do you have power at the panel...if warning lights/buzzer? If not then could be fuse on back of motor that gives power. Otherwise, possible ground at the transmission to engine bolt. Those are two simple but we'll hidden things to check. Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Michael Crombie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 07-28-2015 11:51 (GMT-04:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net mailto:mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net Subject: Stus-List Starter I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for my Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine starts right up. What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start up at the push button switch or at the solenoid? Thanks in advance, Mike Atacama, 33 mkii Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Running Back Stays
Mike...most older CC's and especially those designed by Cuthbertson don't have swepth back spreaders or running backstays and some with over 50 feet of stick are single spreader...makes life with the rig very easy Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, *Alianna* Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I think these may be check stays rather than running backs. Running back stays mostly on fractional rigs and are for downwind sailing as well as trim upwind. Persistence has check stays. We were concerned as you are when we were looking at boat. Other posters are correct. These are for lumpy seas over 15 knots to stop mast from pumping. When light we disconnect and attach to turnbuckles at shrouds. I have a snap shackle to reconnect to blocks on transom when wind comes up. We also changed the lines in the blocks to smaller diameter 60 Ft a side so that when using checks we let the line out downwind rather than disconnecting. These are not the pita we thought they would be but do add one extra thing to do when in use. If all boats were swept back spreaders like cc99 and 115 we would not have this discussion. Mike Persistence 1987 Frees 33 From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of scott gary via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: July 28, 2015 12:21 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: scott gary Subject: Stus-List Running Back Stays Hi All, Looking at a 37/40XL and I know they have running back stays, anyone who has them, are they a pain in the neck, or do you not use them all the time. I am not planning on doing much racing, mostly cruising. I've heard of people on other types of boats just removing them all together. Thanks, Scott CC 35/3 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Starter
I've had owners call me a couple times on this issue with Yanmars. Most likely problems have been either the start button switch or the connector in the wiring harness. Test the start button by jumping across the back. If starter engages strongly, push the button, If starter is weak or doesn't engage, then contacts on inside of start button are carboned up. As for the connector, remove any tape, pull apart, spread TefGel in both sides, connect and pull apart several times. Try it. If it works, re-tape it. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Nauset Beach via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Had the same symptoms last year. Tested the voltage across the start button terminals on the back of the panel and found 12+ volts so concluded that was not the issue, but could not find the cause. The mechanic tested and found the same voltage, but insufficient current. There were partial breaks in some of the wires at / inside the wire harness that at times would connect and other times not, until it quit completely. He cut the harness out and using butt connectors directly wired the panel. Worked every time since. Moral of the story; check voltage and current. And any wiring fault can lead to what appears to be a faulty start button. Brian *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Edward Levert via CnC-List *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:18 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Edward Levert weeselev...@gmail.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Starter Start first at the switch. Test for power across the terminals with the button pushed. If no voltage is seen on the 1st push, it is likely the contacts within the switch are dirty. You can sometimes temporarily clean the contacts by multiple pushes of the starter button with the ignition key off. If you have voltage across the button, then check for voltage between the button and the solenoid. Clean the terminals on the wires, button, and solenoid. That you can start on the 2nd button push suggest that the solenoid and fuses are OK. Ed CC 34 Briar Patch New Orleans On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:04 AM, jhnelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Do you have power at the panel...if warning lights/buzzer? If not then could be fuse on back of motor that gives power. Otherwise, possible ground at the transmission to engine bolt. Those are two simple but we'll hidden things to check. Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Michael Crombie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 07-28-2015 11:51 (GMT-04:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net Subject: Stus-List Starter I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for my Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine starts right up. What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start up at the push button switch or at the solenoid? Thanks in advance, Mike Atacama, 33 mkii Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 114, Issue 59
The entire log runs about 5 times the length - too long. I selected the stuff I thought would be of interest to other sailors and the crew. It was a great trip, and I got to share it with lots of friends and some of their kids. Boats (and theater) tend to teach kids stuff like responsibility and non-sports teamwork. It's great to watch them get it. Can't wait to get my grandkids on the boat. Not a good idea to take 2.5 year olds that can't swim. Especially according to the Admiral. Also, getting crew along the way worked well for me. Wasn't too much trouble (lots of planes trains and automobiles along the way) and the crew worked almost all of it out for themselves once they chose a leg. 'Tis wonderful to have a great time yourself while showing your friends a good time too. Dan From: cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 12:00 PM Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 114, Issue 59 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of CnC-List digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Pegathy's New England Voyage (Richard N. Bush) 2. Black Lid For Pump Out (Jean-Francois J Rivard) 3. Yacht Canvas/Bimini Top (Daniel Sheer) 4. Re: Yacht Canvas/Bimini Top (Joel Aronson) 5. Starter (mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net) 6. Re: Starter (Edd Schillay) 7. Re: Starter (jhnelson) 8. Re: Starter (Edward Levert) 9. Re: Black Lid For Pump Out (mike amirault) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 09:29:29 -0400 From: Richard N. Bush bushma...@aol.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Pegathy's New England Voyage Message-ID: 8d2975090736e39-68c-1d...@webmailstg-va04.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dan, I thoroughly enjoyed reading your log, thank you for including it; I can only imagine all of the events which didn't make the log, its those little things that make a trip like this enjoyable!! Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596; Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Daniel Sheer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Cnc-list CNC Boat Owners cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Daniel Sheer dansh...@yahoo.com Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2015 1:07 pm Subject: Stus-List Pegathy's New England Voyage June 5 - 28 2015 in an LF38. Baltimore to Nantucket and back. Log and photos at Pegathy_NE_Voyage Pegathy_NE_Voyage 30_Sailin_in_the_downpour_LymetoNew_Haven.jpg 9:50 am View on drive.google.com Preview by Yahoo Best viewed on Google Drive. Enjoy. Questions answered on the forum. Dan Sheer Pegathy LF38 Rock Creek off the Patapsco ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20150728/4f614629/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 09:47:40 -0400 From: Jean-Francois J Rivard jfriv...@us.ibm.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Black Lid For Pump Out Message-ID: 201507281348.t6sdmgvb007...@d03av04.boulder.ibm.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Ron, if you can't find it locally It's on Amazon and probably a whole lot cheaper. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Dapsfield-keywords=marine+waste+caprh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Amarine+waste+cap West has them too . BTW, I have found many really good deals on Amazon for several other things like this led light to replace my burned-out weather beaten stern light http://www.amazon.com/MARINE-WHITE-NAVIGATION-WATERPROOF-NAUTICAL/dp/B00I0BPZ1U/ref=sr_1_7?s=sporting-goodsie=UTF8qid=1438091021sr=1-7 -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, GA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ron Ander via CnC-List Sent: July-28-15 09:37 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ron Ander Subject: Stus-List Black Lid For Pump Out My cover for the pump out (black coloured) lid has gone a.w.o.l. I have been having no success finding a replacement in Toronto. The fresh water and fuel lids are the exact same size and threading. If I could find either one of them I will just paint
Re: Stus-List Starter
Everything everyone else said is good. My 2 cents: sometimes a tiny break in a wire or contact will prevent current from flowing, but after a few seconds of power the wire heats up from the resistance and expands enough to close the circuit. Wire does get old. Wal ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Pump for shower sump
I picked up a Whale pump at Fawcetts. Installing it Saturday. Time will tell! Thanks for the advice. Joel On Thursday, July 23, 2015, Robert Boyer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have to get it off the pump--I'll get back to you with it. Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dainyr...@icloud.com'); blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame On Jul 23, 2015, at 7:44 PM, D Harben via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: Hi Bob Model # ? ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','CnC-List@cnc-list.com'); To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
