Re: Stus-List Short Genoa Track on 35-III

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

Doug,

We use them all the time.  In 10kts of wind or less, they produce a great
sheeting angle.  Once the wind pipes up, we may switch to the outside cars
to get some more adjustability.  I damaged one of mine last year.  We had
the car all the way forward on the inside track and it actually pulled the
track up and bent it.  As it turns out, that last screw on the forward end
of the track doesn't carry any weight.  It's just there to keep the car on
the track.  When I repair it, I will make sure to through bolt that end of
the track.

Not all genoas are cut to use the inside track.  It all depends on how yours
fits.

Jake

Jake Brodersen
C&C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress"
Hampton VA




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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Doug
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Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:30
To: CnC- List 
Cc: Doug Allardyce 
Subject: Stus-List Short Genoa Track on 35-III


Just wondering if anyone is using the short Genoa tracks just forward of the
primary winches on the 35-III.

Doug Allardyce
C&C 35-III
Bullet
Detroit
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Re: Stus-List Short Genoa Track on 35-III

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

David,

 

I lead mine straight to the winch.  The lead is fair and have had no
problems.  I got rid of the turning blocks on the quarters a long time ago.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

C&C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress"

Hampton VA

 

 

 

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Knecht via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 14:53
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
Cc: David Knecht 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Short Genoa Track on 35-III

 

I have the track but no hardware for it.  It seems high to lead to the
primary on the side deck.  How do you run the genoa sheet from this track?
Dave

 

Aries

1990 C&C 34+

New London, CT




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Stus-List C&C 36 at auction this weekend

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

There is a C&C 36 being auctioned this weekend at the Chesapeake Bay
Maritime Museum in St. Michaels Maryland.

I helped bring it down from the northern bay to SM the other day and got to
take a good look at it.

Pretty well equipped - 10 winches, autopilot, wind/speed/depth, gps, RF, all
a bit older, but in good shape. Good cushions, hot/pressure water, teak
needs attention or to have the little varnish left taken off. Seemed to sail
pretty well on old sails. Spinnaker gear except for pole. Overall, some
cleanup and it would be a good boat - no apparent damage.

This is a sealed bid auction, but they reserve the right to reject foolish
bids - their estimate of value is in the $11 to 18K range, but I think it
may go for less. 

The museum is at CBMM.org or 410-745-2916. Ask for the boat donation
program.

We are overstocked with in-the-water boats and need the room for tourists.

Gary Nylander
Volunteer
30-1


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Re: Stus-List C&C Letters for 37+ exterior

[allen via CnC-List]

I too have investigated possibilities to replace missing characters off the 
nameplate.  I have worked with Kay Cushing and her magic laser machine.  We 
have replicated the characters "C", "O", "&" and the spear, all cut from 
cast smoked acrylic window remnants.  All the remaining characters are 
variants of the one we've already created.  They can be attached with 
acrylic cement which will fuse the pieces to the base.


You can contact Kay directly with her email above or by calling 562 
307-4171.


She also did a great job Laser engraving a replacement plaque for my 
document number.


Allen Miles
S/v Septima
Hampton, VA

BTW, it's not water jetting; a $15K laser beam cuts the letters

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From: "Rick Rohwer via CnC-List" 
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:38 PM
To: 
Cc: "Rick Rohwer" 
Subject: Stus-List C&C Letters for 37+ exterior

I lost the recent message regarding replacement letters water jetted from 
smoked plastic.  I am missing “C” and “&”  Can someone forward that info 
to me again?  Much appreciated.


Rick
Paikea 37+
Poulsbo, WA
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Re: Stus-List boarding ladder

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

I am sending it back. I maybe should have looked more at the measurements – it 
looks like it came from a 1/3 scale model!

It might be good for a RIB in the 14-16 foot range maybe?  I checked to see if 
it would fit the dinghy and it would except the vertical mounts are too tall 
for the dinghy stern and WAY short for the big boat.

There is no free lunch after all :(

On the good side it looks well made, just sized for 10 year olds! Maybe stick 
it on a 420?

Joe

Coquina

 

 

 

 

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To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com  " 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: "Joe Della Barba" mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> 
>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 7:57:45 AM
Subject: Stus-List boarding ladder

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-STEPS-STAINLESS-STEEL-BOARDING-STERN-TRANSOM-MOUNT-BOAT-LADDER-FIVE-OCEANS-/281812641478?hash=item419d57a6c6:g:9GEAAOSwsB9WCfcn
 

 &vxp=mtr

 

Does anyone know how these work? Does the bottom freely hinge back and forth or 
can it only fold down until it is in a straight line?

Joe

Coquina

 

PS – I think I hosed about 10 pounds of pollen off the boat yesterday. The 
trees are going full blast here!


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Stus-List Dodger windshield cleaner/protector

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Touche' got a new windshield last week.  It's a simple quick on/quick off
thing for deliveries and transits.  It's not the expensive Isinglass stuff
but the less expensive clear vinyl or whatever.

I have no experience with cleaning/protecting a windshield.  Internet
research shows plastic cleaner/protectors by Plexus and Camco Armada 210.

Thoughts/recommendations from the list?

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Wing Keel Lift?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

So, working on buying my 1st sailboat greater than 15'.  It's a 1988 30MkII.
It has a wing keel.  I read somewhere that a wing keel generates some lift.
So
Does a wing keel create lift?
Should I have more heavy stuff at the back of the boat for increased angle
of attack on the keel?
Or..
don't be silly.. its a 8,000lb boat going 5 knots.  It does nothing.

Lorne
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Re: Stus-List Dodger windshield cleaner/protector

[Jerome Tauber via CnC-List]

 Keel lift is a horizontal, not vertical force.   Keels are hydrodynamic foils 
- when they are moved through water they cause both lift and drag forces to 
develop.  Lift is the positive lateralforce that allows a boat to move to 
windward - drag is the negative, resisting force.  A good sailboat keel design 
has a high lift-to-drag ratio.  Wing keels were developed by the Australians to 
win the 1983 America's Cup (first U.S. loss) by getting around the keel depth 
rules.  When the boat heels, the wings increase the draft of the keel creating 
additional lift.   This being said, I'm sure the angle at which the wing cuts 
into the water does have an effect but that is not what is meant by keel lift.  
 The America's Cup left NY in 1983 never to return but this May there will be 
some preliminary cup races in NY Harbor with boats that truly do lift out of 
the water.Jerry

 

 
 
 

 

 

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From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Sent: Sat, Apr 30, 2016 2:18 pm
Subject: Stus-List Dodger windshield cleaner/protector



Touche' got a new windshield last week.  It's a simple quick on/quick off thing 
for deliveries and transits.  It's not the expensive Isinglass stuff but the 
less expensive clear vinyl or whatever.  

I have no experience with cleaning/protecting a windshield.  Internet research 
shows plastic cleaner/protectors by Plexus and Camco Armada 210.


Thoughts/recommendations from the list?


Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA


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Re: Stus-List Wing Keel Lift?

[Jerome Tauber via CnC-List]

(Sorry - first posted this as reply to wrong posting).   Keel lift is a 
horizontal, not vertical force.   Keels are hydrodynamic foils - when they are 
moved through water they cause both lift and drag forces to develop.  Lift is 
the positive lateralforce that allows a boat to move to windward - drag is the 
negative, resisting force.  A good sailboat keel design has a high lift-to-drag 
ratio.  Wing keels were developed by the Australians to win the 1983 America's 
Cup (first U.S. loss) by getting around the keel depth rules.  When the boat 
heels, the wings increase the draft of the keel creating additional lift.   
This being said, I'm sure the angle at which the wing cuts into the water does 
have an effect but that is not what is meant by keel lift.   The America's Cup 
left NY in 1983 never to return but this May there will be some preliminary cup 
races in NY Harbor with boats that truly do lift out of the water.Jerry
 

 

 

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From: Lorne Serpa via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Lorne Serpa 
Sent: Sat, Apr 30, 2016 2:47 pm
Subject: Stus-List Wing Keel Lift?



So, working on buying my 1st sailboat greater than 15'.  It's a 1988 30MkII.
It has a wing keel.  I read somewhere that a wing keel generates some lift.
So
Does a wing keel create lift?
Should I have more heavy stuff at the back of the boat for increased angle of 
attack on the keel?
Or..
don't be silly.. its a 8,000lb boat going 5 knots.  It does nothing.
 
Lorne

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Re: Stus-List Dodger windshield cleaner/protector

[William Walker via CnC-List]

McGuire makes a two part cleaner and Polish I have used for years with success. 
 Developed I think for motorcycle windshields.  Not familiar with the other 
products you mention. 
Bill Walker 
CnC 36
Evening Star
Pentwater, Mi 

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On Saturday, April 30, 2016 Dennis C. via CnC-List  
wrote:

Touche' got a new windshield last week.  It's a simple quick on/quick off thing 
for deliveries and transits.  It's not the expensive Isinglass stuff but the 
less expensive clear vinyl or whatever.  

I have no experience with cleaning/protecting a windshield.  Internet research 
shows plastic cleaner/protectors by Plexus and Camco Armada 210.

Thoughts/recommendations from the list?

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List Wing Keel Lift?

[allen via CnC-List]

Lorne,

If it's in good shape, buy the boat.  The foils on the keel and wing are 
optimized for lift to drag ratio at hull speeds.  The boat sails well at four 
degrees incidence angle and you can feel yourself being lifted to weather on as 
beat.  The winglets are mounted well above the foot of the keel so you won't 
increase your draft by heeling.  Boat flies at 18 degrees heel, steering by the 
main with rudder (helm) setting the incidence angle.

Allen Miles
S/v Septima
30-2 167
Hampton, VA


From: Lorne Serpa via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 2:46 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Lorne Serpa 
Subject: Stus-List Wing Keel Lift?


So, working on buying my 1st sailboat greater than 15'.  It's a 1988 30MkII.
It has a wing keel.  I read somewhere that a wing keel generates some lift.
So
Does a wing keel create lift?
Should I have more heavy stuff at the back of the boat for increased angle of 
attack on the keel?
Or..
don't be silly.. its a 8,000lb boat going 5 knots.  It does nothing.

Lorne





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Re: Stus-List Dodger windshield cleaner/protector

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Dennis, 

 

The folks who made my dodger recommend a product called Klear 2 Sea. 

 

My friends at the local West Marine agree. They recommended  using the version 
in the pump spray bottle. More material than the aerosol for less money, and 
you aren’t paying for propellant. They also said it is chemically the same as 
the Plexus cleaner/polish and less expensive than the West Marine version.

 

I presume that you already know not to use Windex or similar window cleaners. 
I’m told the ammonia in window cleaners will fog the Isinglass/vinyl. Mild soap 
and water seems desirable, but the cleaner/protectants are supposed to have a 
component that bonds to the window material to protect from UV degradations. I 
suppose it is something like the ingredient is Armor ALL.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 2:18 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Dodger windshield cleaner/protector

 

Touche' got a new windshield last week.  It's a simple quick on/quick off thing 
for deliveries and transits.  It's not the expensive Isinglass stuff but the 
less expensive clear vinyl or whatever.  

I have no experience with cleaning/protecting a windshield.  Internet research 
shows plastic cleaner/protectors by Plexus and Camco Armada 210.

Thoughts/recommendations from the list?

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

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Stus-List Travel in Cockpit vs dodger.

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

On my SOON  to be 1988 CNC 30MKII, the traveler is in the cockpit vice
cabin top.  Can a dodger be installed?  Also,  anyone know where to get a
dodge in the Chesapeake Bay area?
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Re: Stus-List Dodger windshield cleaner/protector

[Fred Hazzard via CnC-List]

My boat neighbor uses Pledge furniture polish.  It looks great.  If he get
scuff marks he power buffs with cleaner wax that has a very fine abrasive.

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C&C 44
Portland, Oregon
On Apr 30, 2016 8:10 PM, "Rick Brass via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Dennis,
>
>
>
> The folks who made my dodger recommend a product called Klear 2 Sea.
>
>
>
> My friends at the local West Marine agree. They recommended  using the
> version in the pump spray bottle. More material than the aerosol for less
> money, and you aren’t paying for propellant. They also said it is
> chemically the same as the Plexus cleaner/polish and less expensive than
> the West Marine version.
>
>
>
> I presume that you already know not to use Windex or similar window
> cleaners. I’m told the ammonia in window cleaners will fog the
> Isinglass/vinyl. Mild soap and water seems desirable, but the
> cleaner/protectants are supposed to have a component that bonds to the
> window material to protect from UV degradations. I suppose it is something
> like the ingredient is Armor ALL.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis
> C. via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 30, 2016 2:18 PM
> *To:* CnClist 
> *Cc:* Dennis C. 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Dodger windshield cleaner/protector
>
>
>
> Touche' got a new windshield last week.  It's a simple quick on/quick off
> thing for deliveries and transits.  It's not the expensive Isinglass stuff
> but the less expensive clear vinyl or whatever.
>
> I have no experience with cleaning/protecting a windshield.  Internet
> research shows plastic cleaner/protectors by Plexus and Camco Armada 210.
>
> Thoughts/recommendations from the list?
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touche' 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
>
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> Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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Re: Stus-List icebox pump

[Alan Liles via CnC-List]

Hi all, thanks again for the advice. My boat does have a switch on the bulkhead 
and pumps through the weird spigot into the sink. It's surprising how much you 
can miss when you're learning a new boat. 

Cheers, Al


> On Apr 27, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Brian Fry via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> On  my 93 37/40 xl the ice box pump is located under the starboard saloon 
> seat, just forward of the sink.
> There is an additional switch next to the ice box on the bulkhead.
> It pumps to a pipe into the inboard sink
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