Re: Stus-List Transmission/prop woes

[S Thomas via CnC-List]

It took me about a week to get the coupling and the propeller shaft separated 
on my C&C36 this year. 
Seems they either fall off, or they will not come apart at all. 
I spent one entire day where I thought that I had moved it by about 3/8 of an 
inch, only to find that I had been crushing the steel pipe nipple I was using 
as a spacer to force out the shaft. 
I won't bore you with the rest of it, but it was a challenge to find a 
selection of the right diameter sockets with the variation in lengths needed to 
effect the separation, which is why I tried using a pipe nipple. 
Don't waste you time. They are not strong enough. 

Steve Thomas
Port Stanley, ON
  - Original Message - 
  From: TOM VINCENT via CnC-List 
  To: C&C Forum 
  Cc: TOM VINCENT 
  Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 13:15
  Subject: Stus-List Transmission/prop woes


  It seems this is the year for the shaft to remove itself from the coupler. I 
race on Wednesday nights on the Bohemia River and 4 weeks ago I had decided to 
go out early and warm up a little. I had to return to the fuel dock to pick up 
one crew member. I was adjacent of the pier and he hopped aboard, I slid the 
gear shift lever down, this puts the trans in forward, and nothing. We were 
slowly moving forward to the rock pile jetty at the end of the fuel dock and I 
start shouting for the crew to raise the main and get our butts away from the 
rocks. The wind was blowing abeam and it was impossible to raise the main, one 
crew member quickly unfurls about 10' of the genoa and we develop enough 
forward motion to provide me steerage. We barely missed ending up on the rocks. 
I had the marina haul the boat and they replaced the coupler and many boat 
dollars later, I am back sailing.


  Tom Vincent
  Frolic II, C&C 36'cb
  Chesapeake City, MD


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Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes

[S Thomas via CnC-List]

My 1978 C&C27 has the type of shifter and throttle cable assembly that is 
external to the Edson pedistal, and mounted on a pair of 1 inch stainless 
tubes.  
Yesterday the cable clamp on the shifter cable broke (under a lift bridge, 
enroute to a race start...) and I have not been able to find any reference this 
particlar part anywhere. 
For the cable itself there are sources, but that does not help with this 
particular problem. 
The clamp has already been welded once, but to try that again would require it 
to be welded in situ, which is tricky at best, given the fact that it is thin 
stainless steel and immediately adjascent to the plastic parts of the cable. I 
have a lot of respect for the welding skill of whoever did the original repair. 
The part consists of stamped sheet metal, formed so that it fits into the 
annular detent on the shift cable and wraps around the cable. The ends of the 
sheet metal strap have right angle tabs that interleave to form an overall "D" 
shape, with a round head machine screw threaded through the flat surface into a 
flat stainless steel bar and into the annular detent on the cable. The bar 
extends up about 8 inches and is similarly fastened by a screw through the 
casting at the top. The whole thing:  cable, strap, and clamp, is stuffed down 
inside the 1 inch stainless tubing when assembled. 

If anyone else has been down this road, I sure would like to hear how you 
handled it. 
A source for the part would be great. 
I have had no luck with online searches so far. 

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
Port Stanley, ON

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Stus-List Fwd: 30% Off Graphics During Our July 4th Sale

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If anyone is in the need for new graphics on their boat, I have used BoatUS
graphics and have been pleased with what I received.  They were easy to
work with, and here's a good discount, good until July 8.  I don't think
you have to be a BoatUS member, but I may be wrong.

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Re: Stus-List Fwd: 30% Off Graphics During Our July 4th Sale

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

I used BoatUS for my graphics this spring and was pleased with the service and 
results. I got a 1 discount for being a member.

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> On Jul 2, 2016, at 11:15 AM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> If anyone is in the need for new graphics on their boat, I have used BoatUS 
> graphics and have been pleased with what I received.  They were easy to work 
> with, and here's a good discount, good until July 8.  I don't think you have 
> to be a BoatUS member, but I may be wrong.
> 
> Alan Bergen
> 
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> Date: Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 7:00 AM
> Subject: 30% Off Graphics During Our July 4th Sale
> To: trya...@alumni.usc.edu
> 
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> View Online
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: 30% Off Graphics During Our July 4th Sale

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

Was trying to say 10% discount

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> On Jul 2, 2016, at 1:39 PM, Randy Stafford  wrote:
> 
> I used BoatUS for my graphics this spring and was pleased with the service 
> and results. I got a 1 discount for being a member.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 2, 2016, at 11:15 AM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> If anyone is in the need for new graphics on their boat, I have used BoatUS 
>> graphics and have been pleased with what I received.  They were easy to work 
>> with, and here's a good discount, good until July 8.  I don't think you have 
>> to be a BoatUS member, but I may be wrong.
>> 
>> Alan Bergen
>> 
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: BoatUS Boat Graphics 
>> Date: Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 7:00 AM
>> Subject: 30% Off Graphics During Our July 4th Sale
>> To: trya...@alumni.usc.edu
>> 
>> 
>> Hurry, Ends Friday 7/8/16
>> View Online
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>> 
>>  
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>> promotional offers or program discounts.
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Re: Stus-List Transmission/prop woes

[Jon Pratt via CnC-List]

Yeah me too.

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:58 PM, G Collins via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I had it happen last year, while being committee boat - so anchored in an
> open area, lee shore.  Thankfully our mark boat was a big one and could tow
> me in.  New shaft and coupling...
>
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C&C 35-III #11
>
> On 2016-07-01 2:15 PM, TOM VINCENT via CnC-List wrote:
>
> It seems this is the year for the shaft to remove itself from the coupler.
> I race on Wednesday nights on the Bohemia River and 4 weeks ago I had
> decided to go out early and warm up a little. I had to return to the fuel
> dock to pick up one crew member. I was adjacent of the pier and he hopped
> aboard, I slid the gear shift lever down, this puts the trans in forward,
> and nothing. We were slowly moving forward to the rock pile jetty at the
> end of the fuel dock and I start shouting for the crew to raise the main
> and get our butts away from the rocks. The wind was blowing abeam and it
> was impossible to raise the main, one crew member quickly unfurls about 10'
> of the genoa and we develop enough forward motion to provide me steerage.
> We barely missed ending up on the rocks. I had the marina haul the boat and
> they replaced the coupler and many boat dollars later, I am back sailing.
>
> Tom Vincent
> Frolic II, C&C 36'cb
> Chesapeake City, MD
>
>
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Stus-List Autopilot Mystery

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

"Finished" the install of my Raymarine EV200 in the Enterprise, all connected 
to my old Octopus 1012 pump and linear drive. 

The system powers on and I ran through the setup twice -- but no joy, the 
rudder doesn't move.  

The pump has four wires. Two, orange and black, are coming out of the black 
part of the pump. I connected those to the "motor" connectors on the ACU. The 
other two, both red, are coming out of the "front" end, which I connected to 
the "clutch" connectors on the ACU.

The pump is at least 11 years old, possibly double that or even more. 

Any idea if I have the wiring backwards? How does one test a hydraulic pump? 
Any suggestions on troubleshooting? 

All advice greatly appreciated. 


All the best,

Edd

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Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

Does your setup look like this?

http://www.moyermarine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7005

If so the part I think you are referring to I have not been able to locate.
I have considered making a spare, a project that hasn't got to the top
of the todo list yet.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1


Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 10:32:14 -0400 
From: "S Thomas"  
To:  
Subject: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes 
Message-ID: <8C564B7AC9E049FCB7FCE655B472320D@mordor> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 
 
My 1978 C&C27 has the type of shifter and throttle cable assembly that is 
external to the Edson pedistal, and mounted on a pair of 1 inch stainless 
tubes.   
Yesterday the cable clamp on the shifter cable broke (under a lift bridge, 
enroute to a race start...) and I have not been able to find any reference this 
particlar part anywhere.  
For the cable itself there are sources, but that does not help with this 
particular problem.  
The clamp has already been welded once, but to try that again would require it 
to be welded in situ, which is tricky at best, given the fact that it is thin 
stainless steel and immediately adjascent to the plastic parts of the cable. I 
have a lot of respect for the welding skill of whoever did the original repair. 
 
The part consists of stamped sheet metal, formed so that it fits into the 
annular detent on the shift cable and wraps around the cable. The ends of the 
sheet metal strap have right angle tabs that interleave to form an overall "D" 
shape, with a round head machine screw threaded through the flat surface into a 
flat stainless steel bar and into the annular detent on the cable. The bar 
extends up about 8 inches and is similarly fastened by a screw through the 
casting at the top. The whole thing:  cable, strap, and clamp, is stuffed down 
inside the 1 inch stainless tubing when assembled.  
 
If anyone else has been down this road, I sure would like to hear how you 
handled it.  
A source for the part would be great.  
I have had no luck with online searches so far.  
 
Steve Thomas 
C&C27 MKIII 
Port Stanley, ON 
 
P.S. - The rest of my sailing club is yucking it up across the lake, and having 
a great time in Ashtabula, OH.  
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Re: Stus-List Autopilot Mystery

[G Collins via CnC-List]

Did you set the drive configuration?  It has a few options - for a while I ran 
mine with the old wheel drive (before I got the linear drive installed) and it 
had an option for that...

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2016-07-02 8:16 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote:
Listers,

"Finished" the install of my Raymarine EV200 in the Enterprise, all connected 
to my old Octopus 1012 pump and linear drive.

The system powers on and I ran through the setup twice -- but no joy, the 
rudder doesn't move.

The pump has four wires. Two, orange and black, are coming out of the black 
part of the pump. I connected those to the "motor" connectors on the ACU. The 
other two, both red, are coming out of the "front" end, which I connected to 
the "clutch" connectors on the ACU.

The pump is at least 11 years old, possibly double that or even more.

Any idea if I have the wiring backwards? How does one test a hydraulic pump? 
Any suggestions on troubleshooting?

All advice greatly appreciated.


All the best,

Edd

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Starship Enterprise
NCC-1701-B
C&C 37+ | City Island, NY
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Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes

[S Thomas via CnC-List]

That is it, although the part in question is not visible in those photos. 
I have been able to draw the cable and associated parts out through the top, 
but I am still trying to figure out what to do next. 
It is not hard to imagine any number of ways to make a clamp, but to make one 
which will be strong enough to do the job and also fit back in the tube 
presents a real challenge. 
I see no obvious way to improve on the original part, and the original being 
made of stamped stainless steel, it will not be easy to duplicate or repair. 

Steve Thomas 
C&C27 MKIII 
Port Stanley, ON 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Brown via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Michael Brown 
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 19:36
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes


  Does your setup look like this?

  http://www.moyermarine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7005

  If so the part I think you are referring to I have not been able to locate.
  I have considered making a spare, a project that hasn't got to the top
  of the todo list yet.

  Michael Brown
  Windburn
  C&C 30-1


Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 10:32:14 -0400 
From: "S Thomas"  
To:  
Subject: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes 
Message-ID: <8C564B7AC9E049FCB7FCE655B472320D@mordor> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 

My 1978 C&C27 has the type of shifter and throttle cable assembly that is 
external to the Edson pedistal, and mounted on a pair of 1 inch stainless 
tubes.   
Yesterday the cable clamp on the shifter cable broke (under a lift bridge, 
enroute to a race start...) and I have not been able to find any reference this 
particlar part anywhere. 
For the cable itself there are sources, but that does not help with this 
particular problem. 
The clamp has already been welded once, but to try that again would require 
it to be welded in situ, which is tricky at best, given the fact that it is 
thin stainless steel and immediately adjascent to the plastic parts of the 
cable. I have a lot of respect for the welding skill of whoever did the 
original repair. 
The part consists of stamped sheet metal, formed so that it fits into the 
annular detent on the shift cable and wraps around the cable. The ends of the 
sheet metal strap have right angle tabs that interleave to form an overall "D" 
shape, with a round head machine screw threaded through the flat surface into a 
flat stainless steel bar and into the annular detent on the cable. The bar 
extends up about 8 inches and is similarly fastened by a screw through the 
casting at the top. The whole thing:  cable, strap, and clamp, is stuffed down 
inside the 1 inch stainless tubing when assembled. 

If anyone else has been down this road, I sure would like to hear how you 
handled it. 
A source for the part would be great. 
I have had no luck with online searches so far. 

Steve Thomas 
C&C27 MKIII 
Port Stanley, ON 

P.S. - The rest of my sailing club is yucking it up across the lake, and 
having a great time in Ashtabula, OH. 



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Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Steve,
When I worked at Edson several years ago there was a few cable clamps left in 
inventory.  You will need to call Edson direct on Tuesday to get one since this 
part has been discontinued for decades.  Replace your cable at the same time 
because the reason the cable clamp broke was trying to hold a stiff rusty cable 
in place.  If you don't replace the cable, you'll simply break the new clamp 
soon after installation.  Edson also has a service bulletin on this control 
assembly (model 747 IIRC)they can send to you electronically.
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 LF 35
Padanaram, MA
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 2, 2016, at 8:17 PM, S Thomas via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> That is it, although the part in question is not visible in those photos.
> I have been able to draw the cable and associated parts out through the top, 
> but I am still trying to figure out what to do next.  
> It is not hard to imagine any number of ways to make a clamp, but to make one 
> which will be strong enough to do the job and also fit back in the tube 
> presents a real challenge.
> I see no obvious way to improve on the original part, and the original being 
> made of stamped stainless steel, it will not be easy to duplicate or repair.
>  
> Steve Thomas 
> C&C27 MKIII 
> Port Stanley, ON 
> - Original Message -
> From: Michael Brown via CnC-List
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Michael Brown
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 19:36
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes
> 
> Does your setup look like this?
> 
> http://www.moyermarine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7005
> 
> If so the part I think you are referring to I have not been able to locate.
> I have considered making a spare, a project that hasn't got to the top
> of the todo list yet.
> 
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C&C 30-1
> 
> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 10:32:14 -0400 
> From: "S Thomas"  
> To:  
> Subject: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes 
> Message-ID: <8C564B7AC9E049FCB7FCE655B472320D@mordor> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 
> 
> My 1978 C&C27 has the type of shifter and throttle cable assembly that is 
> external to the Edson pedistal, and mounted on a pair of 1 inch stainless 
> tubes.   
> Yesterday the cable clamp on the shifter cable broke (under a lift bridge, 
> enroute to a race start...) and I have not been able to find any reference 
> this particlar part anywhere. 
> For the cable itself there are sources, but that does not help with this 
> particular problem. 
> The clamp has already been welded once, but to try that again would require 
> it to be welded in situ, which is tricky at best, given the fact that it is 
> thin stainless steel and immediately adjascent to the plastic parts of the 
> cable. I have a lot of respect for the welding skill of whoever did the 
> original repair. 
> The part consists of stamped sheet metal, formed so that it fits into the 
> annular detent on the shift cable and wraps around the cable. The ends of the 
> sheet metal strap have right angle tabs that interleave to form an overall 
> "D" shape, with a round head machine screw threaded through the flat surface 
> into a flat stainless steel bar and into the annular detent on the cable. The 
> bar extends up about 8 inches and is similarly fastened by a screw through 
> the casting at the top. The whole thing:  cable, strap, and clamp, is stuffed 
> down inside the 1 inch stainless tubing when assembled. 
> 
> If anyone else has been down this road, I sure would like to hear how you 
> handled it. 
> A source for the part would be great. 
> I have had no luck with online searches so far. 
> 
> Steve Thomas 
> C&C27 MKIII 
> Port Stanley, ON 
> 
> P.S. - The rest of my sailing club is yucking it up across the lake, and 
> having a great time in Ashtabula, OH. 
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Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes

[S Thomas via CnC-List]

Thanks Chuck, I will give them a call. 

Steve Thomas 
C&C27 MKIII 
Port Stanley, ON 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Chuck Gilchrest 
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 20:34
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes


  Steve,
  When I worked at Edson several years ago there was a few cable clamps left in 
inventory.  You will need to call Edson direct on Tuesday to get one since this 
part has been discontinued for decades.  Replace your cable at the same time 
because the reason the cable clamp broke was trying to hold a stiff rusty cable 
in place.  If you don't replace the cable, you'll simply break the new clamp 
soon after installation.  Edson also has a service bulletin on this control 
assembly (model 747 IIRC)they can send to you electronically.
  Chuck Gilchrest
  S/V Half Magic
  1983 LF 35
  Padanaram, MA
  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jul 2, 2016, at 8:17 PM, S Thomas via CnC-List  
wrote:


That is it, although the part in question is not visible in those photos. 
I have been able to draw the cable and associated parts out through the 
top, but I am still trying to figure out what to do next. 
It is not hard to imagine any number of ways to make a clamp, but to make 
one which will be strong enough to do the job and also fit back in the tube 
presents a real challenge. 
I see no obvious way to improve on the original part, and the original 
being made of stamped stainless steel, it will not be easy to duplicate or 
repair. 

Steve Thomas 
C&C27 MKIII 
Port Stanley, ON 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Brown via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Michael Brown 
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 19:36
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes


  Does your setup look like this?

  http://www.moyermarine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7005

  If so the part I think you are referring to I have not been able to 
locate.
  I have considered making a spare, a project that hasn't got to the top
  of the todo list yet.

  Michael Brown
  Windburn
  C&C 30-1


Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 10:32:14 -0400 
From: "S Thomas"  
To:  
Subject: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes 
Message-ID: <8C564B7AC9E049FCB7FCE655B472320D@mordor> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 

My 1978 C&C27 has the type of shifter and throttle cable assembly that 
is external to the Edson pedistal, and mounted on a pair of 1 inch stainless 
tubes.   
Yesterday the cable clamp on the shifter cable broke (under a lift 
bridge, enroute to a race start...) and I have not been able to find any 
reference this particlar part anywhere. 
For the cable itself there are sources, but that does not help with 
this particular problem. 
The clamp has already been welded once, but to try that again would 
require it to be welded in situ, which is tricky at best, given the fact that 
it is thin stainless steel and immediately adjascent to the plastic parts of 
the cable. I have a lot of respect for the welding skill of whoever did the 
original repair. 
The part consists of stamped sheet metal, formed so that it fits into 
the annular detent on the shift cable and wraps around the cable. The ends of 
the sheet metal strap have right angle tabs that interleave to form an overall 
"D" shape, with a round head machine screw threaded through the flat surface 
into a flat stainless steel bar and into the annular detent on the cable. The 
bar extends up about 8 inches and is similarly fastened by a screw through the 
casting at the top. The whole thing:  cable, strap, and clamp, is stuffed down 
inside the 1 inch stainless tubing when assembled. 

If anyone else has been down this road, I sure would like to hear how 
you handled it. 
A source for the part would be great. 
I have had no luck with online searches so far. 

Steve Thomas 
C&C27 MKIII 
Port Stanley, ON 

P.S. - The rest of my sailing club is yucking it up across the lake, 
and having a great time in Ashtabula, OH. 

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Stus-List C&C 32 Mainsheet Traveler Location

[Graham Young via CnC-List]

Hello everyone,
I want to set up my 32 to be able to single-hand.  Currently, the traveler is 
on the coach roof and my wingspan is not large enough to reach the helm and the 
mainsheet at the same time
I'm wondering if any other 32 owners have set their boats up to single-hand and 
what solutions you've come up with.  The most obvious solution seems to be to 
move the traveler directly in front of the binnacle a la the 30, but the 
t-shaped cockpit seems to pose a challenge for that location.   My current 
Harken traveler is 4 feet long.  I measured the space between the cockpit 
settes below the seat lids at under 3 feet.  Any ideas?
Thanks,
Graham
S/V SpellboundCleveland, Ohio1981 C&C 32 
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Re: Stus-List C&C 32 Mainsheet Traveler Location

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

Leave the traveler where it is. It's a great place.  We used a single line for 
the traveler such that the loop came all the way back to the binnacle.  Kind of 
like reins for s horse.  Works great. 

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From: Graham Young via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 9:06 PM
Subject: Stus-List C&C 32 Mainsheet Traveler Location
To:  
Cc: Graham Young 


Hello everyone,
I want to set up my 32 to be able to single-hand.  Currently, the traveler is 
on the coach roof and my wingspan is not large enough to reach the helm and the 
mainsheet at the same time
I'm wondering if any other 32 owners have set their boats up to single-hand and 
what solutions you've come up with.  The most obvious solution seems to be to 
move the traveler directly in front of the binnacle a la the 30, but the 
t-shaped cockpit seems to pose a challenge for that location.   My current 
Harken traveler is 4 feet long.  I measured the space between the cockpit 
settes below the seat lids at under 3 feet.  Any ideas?
Thanks,
Graham
S/V SpellboundCleveland, Ohio1981 C&C 32 



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Re: Stus-List C&C 32 Mainsheet Traveler Location

[John Russo via CnC-List]

I agree with Neil, I however use two ends of the same line back to the helm.  I 
have Harken long throw jam cleats on the cabin top that allows me to snap the 
line loose like flicking a whip or jam it by pulling down. See 
arpeggio1984.info web site, under projects. I can look up the jam cleats if you 
are interested but they look like a regular cleat with an extended higher 
capture loop..

 

John Russo

Arpeggio 

Norwalk CT 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Neil 
Andersen via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 9:12 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Neil Andersen
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 32 Mainsheet Traveler Location

 

Leave the traveler where it is. It's a great place.  We used a single line for 
the traveler such that the loop came all the way back to the binnacle.  Kind of 
like reins for s horse.  Works great. 

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From: Graham Young via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 9:06 PM
Subject: Stus-List C&C 32 Mainsheet Traveler Location
To: 
Cc: Graham Young 



Hello everyone,

 

I want to set up my 32 to be able to single-hand.  Currently, the traveler is 
on the coach roof and my wingspan is not large enough to reach the helm and the 
mainsheet at the same time

 

I'm wondering if any other 32 owners have set their boats up to single-hand and 
what solutions you've come up with.  The most obvious solution seems to be to 
move the traveler directly in front of the binnacle a la the 30, but the 
t-shaped cockpit seems to pose a challenge for that location.   My current 
Harken traveler is 4 feet long.  I measured the space between the cockpit 
settes below the seat lids at under 3 feet.  Any ideas?

 

Thanks,

 

Graham

 

S/V Spellbound

Cleveland, Ohio

1981 C&C 32

 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List C&C 32 Mainsheet Traveler Location

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

John,
I did mine the same as you, but never cut the line in two.  It lets me loop it 
over the binnacle which works great for us.  A neighbor told us about the 
approach and I figured I could always cut the line to make 2 lines if needed  
NeilFoxFire1982 C&C 32Wort on Creek, MD

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On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 9:35 PM -0400, "John Russo via CnC-List" 
 wrote:












I agree with Neil, I however use two ends of the same line back to the helm.  I 
have Harken long throw jam cleats on the cabin top that allows me to snap the 
line loose like flicking a whip or jam it by pulling down. See 
arpeggio1984.info web site, under projects. I can look up the jam cleats if you 
are interested but they look like a regular cleat with an extended higher 
capture loop..

 

John Russo

Arpeggio 

Norwalk CT 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Neil 
Andersen via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 9:12 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Neil Andersen
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 32 Mainsheet Traveler Location

 

Leave the traveler where it is. It's a great place.  We used a single line for 
the traveler such that the loop came all the way back to the binnacle.  Kind of 
like reins for s horse.  Works great. 

Get Outlook for iOS

 

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From: Graham Young via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 9:06 PM
Subject: Stus-List C&C 32 Mainsheet Traveler Location
To: 
Cc: Graham Young 



Hello everyone,

 

I want to set up my 32 to be able to single-hand.  Currently, the traveler is 
on the coach roof and my wingspan is not large enough to reach the helm and the 
mainsheet at the same time

 

I'm wondering if any other 32 owners have set their boats up to single-hand and 
what solutions you've come up with.  The most obvious solution seems to be to 
move the traveler directly in front of the binnacle a la the 30, but the 
t-shaped cockpit seems to pose a challenge for that location.   My current 
Harken traveler is 4 feet long.  I measured the space between the cockpit 
settes below the seat lids at under 3 feet.  Any ideas?

 

Thanks,

 

Graham

 

S/V Spellbound

Cleveland, Ohio

1981 C&C 32

 

 

 




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Re: Stus-List C&C 32 Mainsheet Traveler Location

[Graham Young via CnC-List]

Neil and John,
Thanks to both of you for your responses.
I might need some visuals to understand the set-ups that you use.  And please 
forgive my ignorance as I am a relatively new sailor.
Neil, you said that you use a single line for the traveler with a loop.  John, 
you said that you use two ends of the same line back to the helm.
Mine has the main sheet with a block and tackle attached to the boom.  Then 
there are lines at each end of the traveler that use cam cleats that must be 
loosened to allow the traveler to move laterally.  How do I manage all three 
lines from the binnacle?
John, thanks for the info on your website.  That is quite an impressive array 
of projects that you have completed through the years.  I'm not sure what year 
you were referring to for the cam cleats with the extended loop.
 

On Saturday, July 2, 2016 9:52 PM, Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 John,
I did mine the same as you, but never cut the line in two.  It lets me loop it 
over the binnacle which works great for us.  A neighbor told us about the 
approach and I figured I could always cut the line to make 2 lines if needed  
NeilFoxFire1982 C&C 32Wort on Creek, MD

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agree with Neil, I however use two ends of the same line back to the helm.  I 
have Harken long throw jam cleats on the cabin top that allows me to snap the 
line loose like flicking a whip or jam it by pulling down. See 
arpeggio1984.info web site, under projects. I can look up the jam cleats if you 
are interested but they look like a regular cleat with an extended higher 
capture loop..  John RussoArpeggio Norwalk CT   From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Neil Andersen via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 9:12 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Neil Andersen
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 32 Mainsheet Traveler Location  Leave the traveler 
where it is. It's a great place.  We used a single line for the traveler such 
that the loop came all the way back to the binnacle.  Kind of like reins for s 
horse.  Works great. Get Outlook for iOS  _
From: Graham Young via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 9:06 PM
Subject: Stus-List C&C 32 Mainsheet Traveler Location
To: 
Cc: Graham Young 

Hello everyone,  I want to set up my 32 to be able to single-hand.  Currently, 
the traveler is on the coach roof and my wingspan is not large enough to reach 
the helm and the mainsheet at the same time  I'm wondering if any other 32 
owners have set their boats up to single-hand and what solutions you've come up 
with.  The most obvious solution seems to be to move the traveler directly in 
front of the binnacle a la the 30, but the t-shaped cockpit seems to pose a 
challenge for that location.   My current Harken traveler is 4 feet long.  I 
measured the space between the cockpit settes below the seat lids at under 3 
feet.  Any ideas?  Thanks,  Graham  S/V SpellboundCleveland, Ohio1981 C&C 32    
  
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