Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

[RANDY via CnC-List]

I poled out my 155% genoa last night with the spin pole, because I don't have a 
whisker pole, and I found the spin pole to be almost too long. 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Ronald B. Frerker"  
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 1:33:25 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole 




"If you are considering leaving the asymm tack on centerline and using 
a pole like you would use a whisker pole on a headsail I guess that 
would work but as pointed out is not legal under common Racing 
Rules of Sailing." 

I've found the spin pole is too short for use as a whisker pole even when 
poling out a genny (150%). For a chute which is about 180% the clew will be in 
way too far to pull well I would think. 
Ron 
Wild Cheri 
C 30-1 
STL 



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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[Nate Flesness via CnC-List]

Sarah Jean (1980 30-1) is hull number 602.

Nate
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Stus-List Odball 33-2 deck fitting

[Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List]

Paul is correct, mine have NZ on them and they are in fact a metric size of 
some sort. I have taken the threaded plug all over town to find something to 
fit with no luck. Will be changing my deck fitting this winter. (its cheaper 
than buying the rubber cone fitting) Our marina has the rubber cone fitting 
that works well enough for now (just keep your mouth shut)
Brad
"Pulse"
1985 33-2
Lake Huron

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Stus-List of 30-1s

[Wayne via CnC-List]

Another 30 for possible list

Hull #28  - 1974 - Resilience - Tyler Anstey - Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Wayne Anstey

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Re: Stus-List Center board

[Persuasion37 via CnC-List]

Wow!!  I like my design better.  Less weight in board means more weight in keel 
(I assume).  The pin that hold my centreboard is only 1".

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Aug 18, 2016, at 12:22 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Having lost my C 36 XL/kcb (1995) centerboard, I know way more than I'd 
> like to know about them--at least mine.
>  
> Yours was a different design (based on your photos) than mine, which is more 
> elliptical in shape and which was mostly lead at about 920 lbs.
>  
> Drawings from the Kingston Maritime Museum allowed my local yard to construct 
> 2 duplicates, one in foam to get the shape correct so it would fit snugly 
> within the trunk and then the actual replacement, which was secured in a 
> wooden stabilizing structure while they lowered the boat on top of it and 
> drove the ~ 4" diameter SS pin through it to secure it to the trunk.
>  
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> C 36 XL/kcb
>  
> cenel...@aol.com
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Persuasion37 via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list 
> Cc: Persuasion37 
> Sent: Thu, Aug 18, 2016 12:06 pm
> Subject: Stus-List Center board
> 
> Well I’ve finally started to repair my centreboard.  Some of you might 
> remember that the pendant came out in my hand while in the 
> Bahamas,fortunately it has been jammed up for years.   As soon as I returned 
> to Canada I had the boat pulled and removed the centreboard.  I’ve share a 
> few pictures here.  Based on the one piece of lead that came out I would 
> estimate there are 300 pounds of lead.
>  
> If anyone has gone through this type of repair before I would appreciate any 
> advice.
>  
> Mike
> S/V Persuasion
> C 37 Keel/CB
> Long Sault
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Stus-List Center board

[Persuasion37 via CnC-List]

Well I’ve finally started to repair my centreboard.  Some of you might remember 
that the pendant came out in my hand while in the Bahamas,fortunately it has 
been jammed up for years.   As soon as I returned to Canada I had the boat 
pulled and removed the centreboard.  I’ve share a few pictures here.  Based on 
the one piece of lead that came out I would estimate there are 300 pounds of 
lead.

If anyone has gone through this type of repair before I would appreciate any 
advice.

Mike
S/V Persuasion
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Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - List of Hull Numbers etc.

[Frank via CnC-List]

Yea, What he saidFrank

From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 6:58 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - List of Hull Numbers etc.

John — here’s some info for you: 

Frank Noragon
S/V Cool Change
C Landfall 38, #001
Rose City Yacht Club
Portland, Oregon

(this would have been a Rhode Island boat, I believe)


Jeff Cole
1979 C Landfall 38
“Masala"

(not sure of the hull number, but must be near mine; also a Rhode Island build, 
I think)

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

  On Aug 17, 2016, at 8:15 PM, John Sandford via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  Im just starting one judging by the feedback !
  I got 7 replies already
  Do you have more information for Frank and Jeff,like boat name and year. Here 
is what the starting columns are
Hull Year Owner Boat Name Built at Present Location 






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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Wow Stu, this database is gold. I've been saving the pages off the Wayback 
Machine. Looks like your owners list went offline (December 2015?) just before 
I bought my boat and joined this mail list (~February 2016). It would be nice 
if the database included the HINs of the boats, or at least the hull numbers. 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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From: "RANDY via CnC-List"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "RANDY"  
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 9:16:04 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s 

Thanks Stu. I found it on the Wayback Machine: 
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/owners/* (then 
filter results by .htm). 

I could ship you some good rum if that would help :) 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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From: "Stu via CnC-List"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Stu"  
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 8:55:11 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s 

The list of owners is not available on the Photo Album at this time. It crashed 
a few years back and I never took the time to restore it. 
I guess now is the time to get working on it and get the list working again. 
Give me a couple of days (weeks) and it will be back. We will be land yachting 
for a couple of weeks and it will depend on wifi being accessible and how much 
rum & coke is left. 
Stu 

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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[Richard N. Bush via CnC-List]

 Great idea RandyI'll send some Kentucky Bourbon tooStu, where do you 
want shipped?

 


Richard
1985 C 37 CB, Ohio River, Mle 584.4

Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

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From: RANDY via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: RANDY 
Sent: Thu, Aug 18, 2016 11:18 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s



Thanks Stu.  I found it on the Wayback Machine: 
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/owners/* (then 
filter results by .htm).


I could ship you some good rum if that would help :)


Cheers,
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Re: Stus-List List of all boats...

[Richard N. Bush via CnC-List]

 This is a fascinating topic...sooo, how about the other boatsobviously to 
do all of them is a daunting taskI will volunteer to compile the 37  (in 
production from 1981-1985) and send that info to Stu for inclusion somewhere on 
the album...Stu, please let me know if this becomes too onerous of a 
task...thanks! 

 
37 owners, I would like to compile this list similar to the others; name, rank 
and ZCC numbers please...! (and thanks)





Richard
1985 C 37 CB, Ohio River, Mile 584.4


Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

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From: Stu via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Stu 
Sent: Thu, Aug 18, 2016 10:56 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s




The list of owners is not available on the Photo Album at this time.  It 
crashed a few years back and I never took the time to restore it.
 
I guess now is the time to get working on it and get the list working again.  
Give me a couple of days (weeks) and it will be back.  We will be land yachting 
for a couple of weeks and it will depend on wifi being accessible and how much 
rum & coke is left.
 
Stu



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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Thanks Stu. I found it on the Wayback Machine: 
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/owners/* (then 
filter results by .htm). 

I could ship you some good rum if that would help :) 

Cheers, 
Randy 

- Original Message -

From: "Stu via CnC-List"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Stu"  
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 8:55:11 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s 

The list of owners is not available on the Photo Album at this time. It crashed 
a few years back and I never took the time to restore it. 
I guess now is the time to get working on it and get the list working again. 
Give me a couple of days (weeks) and it will be back. We will be land yachting 
for a couple of weeks and it will depend on wifi being accessible and how much 
rum & coke is left. 
Stu 

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Stus-List Mystic Seaport C Rendezvous

[Robert Gallagher via CnC-List]

Hi,

To those planning or considering attendance this September in Mystic,

Please get your reservations in to the seaport and complete registration on
our website.

Cncnortheast.com

The folks at the Mystic Seaport are holding 1000 ft of docks pace for us.
As we get closer they are getting reservation requests that will soon
encroach on our private dock space along the North Wharf.

Without YOU these events cannot be successful, so please make your dock
reservations ASAP.

Also, the volunteers at the Seaport went out of their way to put together
some entertaining and educational events for us. Please sign up on our
website so I can cut them a check and seal the deal.

Thanks,

Rob
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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[Stu via CnC-List]

The list of owners is not available on the Photo Album at this time.  It 
crashed a few years back and I never took the time to restore it.

I guess now is the time to get working on it and get the list working again.  
Give me a couple of days (weeks) and it will be back.  We will be land yachting 
for a couple of weeks and it will depend on wifi being accessible and how much 
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Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 hull numbers

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Does anyone know what the M and J stand for? 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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From: "Frederick G Street via CnC-List"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Frederick G Street"  
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 8:20:09 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 hull numbers 

Dan — you’re correct, hull #072. 

— Fred 

Fred Street -- Minneapolis 
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI 




On Aug 18, 2016, at 8:56 AM, Daniel Sheer via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> wrote: 

Love to give you a hull number, but don't know how to read it. The HIN is 
CCY38072M80J. I presume from that the the hull number is 72, but I'm not sure. 
Please decipher and let me know. 

Other info: 

Year 1980 

Owner Dan Sheer 

Boat Name Pegathy 

Built at Rhode Island 

Present Location Rock Creek, Pasadena, Md. 




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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Thanks Gary. I haven't seen Stu's list of owners. Do you have a link? 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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From: "Gary Nylander via CnC-List"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Gary Nylander"  
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 5:46:45 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s 



Have you looked at Stu’s list of owners? I thought there were more of us on 
that. By the way, my #593 is named “Penniless” – wheel, traveler moved to 
bridgedeck. A poster on this list named Curtis has one in the 600’s down in the 
Carolina’s. 



Gary 




From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of RANDY via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 2:05 AM 
To: cnc-list  
Cc: RANDY  
Subject: Stus-List List of 30-1s 





This is great information. Wish such a thing existed for 30-1s as well. Could 
we start a tabulation, or does one already exist? I only know of a few from 
this list: 





Hull #1 - Anchovy - Rick Bushie - Worton, MD 


Hull #7 - Grenadine - Randy Stafford - Ken Caryl, CO (tiller steering, traveler 
aft) 


Hull #377 - Nobody's Bargain - Ryan Doyle - New York 


Hull #453 - Windburn - Michael Brown - ? 


Hull #540 - Admiral Maggie - Aaron Rouhi - Annapolis, MD 


Hull #593 - Volunteer - Gary Nylander - St. Michaels, MD 


Hull #? - Wild Cheri - Ron Frerker - St. Louis, MO 


Hull #? - Sarah Jean - Nate Flesness - St. Croix River, 


Hull #? - Zia - Joe Boyle - ? 


Hull #? - Muir Ca-leag - Jeff Nelson - Halifax 


Hull #? - Cousin - Antoine Rose - ? 





Cheers, 


Randy 



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From: "Frederick G Street via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
To: "cnc-list" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
Cc: "Frederick G Street" < f...@postaudio.net > 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:58:53 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - List of Hull Numbers etc. 





John — here’s some info for you: 





Frank Noragon 
S/V Cool Change 
C Landfall 38, #001 
Rose City Yacht Club 
Portland, Oregon 





(this would have been a Rhode Island boat, I believe) 








Jeff Cole 
1979 C Landfall 38 


“Masala" 





(not sure of the hull number, but must be near mine; also a Rhode Island build, 
I think) 





— Fred 



Fred Street -- Minneapolis 
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI 








On Aug 17, 2016, at 8:15 PM, John Sandford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> wrote: 





Im just starting one judging by the feedback ! 


I got 7 replies already 


Do you have more information for Frank and Jeff,like boat name and year. Here 
is what the starting columns are 


Hull 



Year 



Owner 



Boat Name 



Built at 



Present Location 












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Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 hull numbers

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Dan — you’re correct, hull #072.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Aug 18, 2016, at 8:56 AM, Daniel Sheer via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Love to give you a hull number, but don't know how to read it. The HIN is 
> CCY38072M80J. I presume from that the the hull number is 72, but I'm not 
> sure. Please decipher and let me know.
> 
> Other info:
> 
> Year 1980
> 
> Owner Dan Sheer
> 
> Boat Name Pegathy
> 
> Built at Rhode Island
> 
> Present Location Rock Creek, Pasadena, Md.
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Stus-List Marion-Bermuda Race Contact...

[David via CnC-List]

Please Ray Cullums contact and add mine.

Thanks!

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
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Stus-List Landfall 38 180-250 confusion

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

Hi,

It has been very interesting collecting the LF38 hull number information.  One 
question which which came up was how many hulls were actually built.  Some 
sources stated 180 others 250. The later supported by hull numbers in the 
200’s.  Well it looks like Ed provides the golden key to understanding this, 
and I have added a short summary to the database page explaining which number 
is correct.

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/HullNumbers 



-
Paul E.
1981 C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

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Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 hull numbers

[Daniel Sheer via CnC-List]

Love to give you a hull number, but don't know how to read it. The HIN is 
CCY38072M80J. I presume from that the the hull number is 72, but I'm not sure. 
Please decipher and let me know.

Other info:

Year 1980

Owner Dan Sheer

Boat Name Pegathy

Built at Rhode Island

Present Location Rock Creek, Pasadena, Md.
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Stus-List List of 30-1s

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We own Zia, a 1975 30MK1.  We keep the boat at home in Mayo Maryland and
race the Wednesday night series at Pirates Cove Yacht Club on the West
River.  Stiff as a church, nimble and fast.

Hull #346 - Zia - Joe Boyle - Annapolis, MD (Wheel, A4)

Cheers - Joe
 



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Re: Stus-List Oddball 33-2 deck fill - again

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

If my memory serves correctly the deck fill fittings on the 33-2 were from New 
Zealand, we have replaced them all with stainless ones now on Perception, so 
North American fittings now fit the pump out. Have also done all the hoses 
..

Get Outlook for iOS




On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 8:48 AM -0400, "Bill Coleman via CnC-List" 
> wrote:

As far as I know, it could only be one of two threads if it is from this 
country, and that is 1 ½" NPT, and 1 ¼" NPT

Probably this,
1-5/8" Deck Fitting, 1-1/4" NozAll Dia., 11.5 Threads/In, Fits All Scandvik

150644

310343503

In stock online.

$39.99




Bill Coleman
C 39 Erie, PA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Syerdave--- 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 9:00 PM
To: C Stus List
Cc: syerd...@gmail.com
Subject: Stus-List Oddball 33-2 deck fill - again

I finally got around to getting my deck fill thread looked at by a coupla' 
suppliers of hose and fittings.They were stumped but did measure it and 
tell me what it isn't.  Photo and  commentary here:
http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/

I know this has been discussed but it was never conclusive, and not all list 
members have the issue.

I will keep trying, but any experts out there?   It would be nice to answer 
this once and for all.   Thanks.
Dave.
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Re: Stus-List Oddball 33-2 deck fill - again

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

As far as I know, it could only be one of two threads if it is from this
country, and that is 1 ½” NPT, and 1 ¼” NPT

 

Probably this, 


1-5/8" Deck Fitting, 1-1/4" NozAll Dia., 11.5 Threads/In, Fits All Scandvik

150644

310343503

In stock online. 

$39.99

 

 

 

Bill Coleman

C 39 Erie, PA

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
Syerdave--- via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 9:00 PM
To: C Stus List
Cc: syerd...@gmail.com
Subject: Stus-List Oddball 33-2 deck fill - again

 

I finally got around to getting my deck fill thread looked at by a coupla'
suppliers of hose and fittings.They were stumped but did measure it and
tell me what it isn't.  Photo and  commentary here:

http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/

 

I know this has been discussed but it was never conclusive, and not all list
members have the issue.  

 

I will keep trying, but any experts out there?   It would be nice to answer
this once and for all.   Thanks.

Dave.

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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

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Muir Caileag is hull 549



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 Original message 
From: RANDY via CnC-List  
Date: 2016-08-18  3:04 AM  (GMT-04:00) 
To: cnc-list  
Cc: RANDY  
Subject: Stus-List List of 30-1s 

This is great information.  Wish such a thing existed for 30-1s as well.  Could 
we start a tabulation, or does one already exist?  I only know of a few from 
this list:
Hull #1 - Anchovy - Rick Bushie - Worton, MDHull #7 - Grenadine - Randy 
Stafford - Ken Caryl, CO (tiller steering, traveler aft)Hull #377 - Nobody's 
Bargain - Ryan Doyle - New YorkHull #453 - Windburn - Michael Brown - ?Hull 
#540 - Admiral Maggie - Aaron Rouhi - Annapolis, MDHull #593 - Volunteer - Gary 
Nylander - St. Michaels, MDHull #? - Wild Cheri - Ron Frerker - St. Louis, 
MOHull #? - Sarah Jean - Nate Flesness - St. Croix River, WIHull #? - Zia - Joe 
Boyle - ?Hull #? - Muir Ca-leag - Jeff Nelson - HalifaxHull #? - Cousin - 
Antoine Rose - ?
Cheers,Randy
From: "Frederick G Street via CnC-List" 
To: "cnc-list" 
Cc: "Frederick G Street" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:58:53 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - List of Hull Numbers etc.

John — here’s some info for you:
Frank Noragon
S/V Cool Change
C Landfall 38, #001
Rose City Yacht Club
Portland, Oregon
(this would have been a Rhode Island boat, I believe)

Jeff Cole
1979 C Landfall 38“Masala"
(not sure of the hull number, but must be near mine; also a Rhode Island build, 
I think)
— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
On Aug 17, 2016, at 8:15 PM, John Sandford via CnC-List  
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Im just starting one judging by the feedback !I got 7 replies alreadyDo you 
have more information for Frank and Jeff,like boat name and year. Here is what 
the starting columns areHullYearOwnerBoat NameBuilt atPresent Location


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Re: Stus-List List of 30-1s

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

Have you looked at Stu’s list of owners? I thought there were more of us on 
that. By the way, my #593 is named “Penniless” – wheel, traveler moved to 
bridgedeck. A poster on this list named Curtis has one in the 600’s down in the 
Carolina’s.

 

Gary

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of RANDY via 
CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 2:05 AM
To: cnc-list 
Cc: RANDY 
Subject: Stus-List List of 30-1s

 

This is great information.  Wish such a thing existed for 30-1s as well.  Could 
we start a tabulation, or does one already exist?  I only know of a few from 
this list:

 

Hull #1 - Anchovy - Rick Bushie - Worton, MD

Hull #7 - Grenadine - Randy Stafford - Ken Caryl, CO (tiller steering, traveler 
aft)

Hull #377 - Nobody's Bargain - Ryan Doyle - New York

Hull #453 - Windburn - Michael Brown - ?

Hull #540 - Admiral Maggie - Aaron Rouhi - Annapolis, MD

Hull #593 - Volunteer - Gary Nylander - St. Michaels, MD

Hull #? - Wild Cheri - Ron Frerker - St. Louis, MO

Hull #? - Sarah Jean - Nate Flesness - St. Croix River, 

Hull #? - Zia - Joe Boyle - ?

Hull #? - Muir Ca-leag - Jeff Nelson - Halifax

Hull #? - Cousin - Antoine Rose - ?

 

Cheers,

Randy

 

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From: "Frederick G Street via CnC-List"  >
To: "cnc-list"  >
Cc: "Frederick G Street"  >
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:58:53 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - List of Hull Numbers etc.

 

John — here’s some info for you:

 

Frank Noragon
S/V Cool Change
C Landfall 38, #001
Rose City Yacht Club
Portland, Oregon

 

(this would have been a Rhode Island boat, I believe)

 

 

Jeff Cole
1979 C Landfall 38

“Masala"

 

(not sure of the hull number, but must be near mine; also a Rhode Island build, 
I think)

 

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 

On Aug 17, 2016, at 8:15 PM, John Sandford via CnC-List  > wrote:

 

Im just starting one judging by the feedback !

I got 7 replies already

Do you have more information for Frank and Jeff,like boat name and year. Here 
is what the starting columns are


Hull

Year

Owner

Boat Name

Built at

Present Location

 

 


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Re: Stus-List Racing a 30-1

[RANDY via CnC-List]

"That boat loves it when the wind pipes up" 

You were so right, Mike. Raced in 25 kt. gusts again tonight for the second 
time in two weeks, and won for the second time in two weeks. Carried full main 
and 155% genoa with six bodies on the rail and couldn't get a rail in the water 
or induce a round-up or feel excessive weather helm. Gapped the fleet from the 
start and beat the next boat by at least a minute. 

She does love the stronger wind. 

Cheers, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 

- Original Message -

From: "Mike via CnC-List Hoyt"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Mike Hoyt"  
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 6:20:58 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Racing a 30-1 



If gusty and triangles and boats are “trying to stay in control or reduce 
weather helm” then bodies on the rail will keep you powered up and fast. 
Otherwise you will need a main trimmer to work very closely with helm to keep 
you on your feet 



If you JAM is triangles and everyone is at hull speed then you do not really 
require to be in spin class since there are no DDW legs and the 30 with a large 
genoa should always be moving. 



That boat loves it when the wind pipes up. Put some bodies on board and on the 
rail and do not reef too early and you will kick but on triangle JAM courses. 
Once you get bored of that and when you have 6 persons then try switching to WL 
with the spin 



Mike 




From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Randy 
Stafford via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 1:49 AM 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: randy.staff...@comcast.net 
Subject: Stus-List Racing a 30-1 





Hi All, 





I'd welcome any opinions you might like to share on racing a 30-1. As mentioned 
in the other thread on handicapping JAM boats, I have a choice of racing my 
(new to me) 30-1 in a spinnaker boat division or a non-spinnaker boat division 
(my boat is rigged for spinnaker). We have ten-week series in my club, and I'd 
have to stay in one division for a whole series (but could switch divisions 
between series). We also have occasional one and two-day weekend races in which 
I'd have to choose a division. 





>From what I see in 
>http://www.ussailing.org/wp-content/uploads/DARoot/Offshore/PHRF/2014%20PHRF%20Handicaps%20Data.pdf
> , it looks like a 30-1 usually gets a PHRF rating of 174, which would be the 
>third-lowest rating in my club. We've got a Capri-25 at 173, and an F-240s at 
>170. 





One of my questions is how many crew are advisable for racing a 30-1, with 
spinnaker or without. On smaller boats (Capri-22s, J/22s, Merit 25s) we'd race 
and fly spinnaker with three crew - helm, trimmer, and foredeck. A fourth could 
come in handy in heavy air. I've gotten a couple indications that I should have 
maybe twice that number for a 30-1. What are the typical crew positions on a 
30-1? If it makes any difference, my spinnakers have dousing socks. 





I race on a lake in Colorado. The spinnaker division courses are upwind / 
downwind, and the non-spinnaker division courses are triangles. We generally 
try to set courses so that races last 60-90 minutes. Weather-wise we have 
varied conditions from night to night. Some nights are frickin' gusty, with 
Colorado afternoon and evening thunderstorms. Some nights are light air and we 
run out of beer before finishing :) Several times a year we get really good 
conditions - a steady 15-20 kt. breeze in which everyone's at hull speed and 
and trying to stay in control and / or reduce weather helm. Sea state is not 
really an issue, except for some powerboat wake and chop. 





If there were more light-air nights in a series than heavy-air nights, would a 
30-1 perform better against its PRHF on a triangle course, or on an upwind / 
downwind course? How many crew (some experienced, some not, all still 
reasonably agile) are needed to handle a 30-1 safely under spinnaker in gusty 
or heavy-air conditions? 





Thanks in advance for any opinions. 





Best Regards, 


Randy Stafford 


S/V Grenadine 


C 30 MK1 #7 


Ken Caryl, CO 

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Stus-List List of 30-1s

[RANDY via CnC-List]

This is great information. Wish such a thing existed for 30-1s as well. Could 
we start a tabulation, or does one already exist? I only know of a few from 
this list: 

Hull #1 - Anchovy - Rick Bushie - Worton, MD 
Hull #7 - Grenadine - Randy Stafford - Ken Caryl, CO (tiller steering, traveler 
aft) 
Hull #377 - Nobody's Bargain - Ryan Doyle - New York 
Hull #453 - Windburn - Michael Brown - ? 
Hull #540 - Admiral Maggie - Aaron Rouhi - Annapolis, MD 
Hull #593 - Volunteer - Gary Nylander - St. Michaels, MD 
Hull #? - Wild Cheri - Ron Frerker - St. Louis, MO 
Hull #? - Sarah Jean - Nate Flesness - St. Croix River, WI 
Hull #? - Zia - Joe Boyle - ? 
Hull #? - Muir Ca-leag - Jeff Nelson - Halifax 
Hull #? - Cousin - Antoine Rose - ? 

Cheers, 
Randy 

- Original Message -

From: "Frederick G Street via CnC-List"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Frederick G Street"  
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:58:53 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 - List of Hull Numbers etc. 

John — here’s some info for you: 

Frank Noragon 
S/V Cool Change 
C Landfall 38, #001 
Rose City Yacht Club 
Portland, Oregon 

(this would have been a Rhode Island boat, I believe) 


Jeff Cole 
1979 C Landfall 38 
“Masala" 

(not sure of the hull number, but must be near mine; also a Rhode Island build, 
I think) 

— Fred 

Fred Street -- Minneapolis 
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI 




On Aug 17, 2016, at 8:15 PM, John Sandford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> wrote: 

Im just starting one judging by the feedback ! 
I got 7 replies already 
Do you have more information for Frank and Jeff,like boat name and year. Here 
is what the starting columns are 
Hull 

Year 

Owner 

Boat Name 

Built at 

Present Location 






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