Re: Stus-List Cockpit Locker Leak...

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

David;

 

My 1976 model 38-2 has a small locker  - perhaps 6-8´deep - under the port
cockpit seat (basically in the area above the quarter berth). The portion of
the seat that forms the lid of that locker is cored with what looks like
luan plywood less than ¼” thick, and the edge of the plywood is actually
exposed at the back edge of the lid. The hinge hardware that pierces the
core was not sealed well (thought the installation IS almost 41 years old)
so the core is rotting and water seeps through the lid into the locker. No
standing water in the locker, there are drain holes in the teak side of the
locker that supports the lid, but all the items in the locker are
chronically wet after a rain storm. And there is not much air flow to dry
stuff out.

 

One of my winter projects is to remove the lid, replace the core, and make
sure the hardware is properly bedded and goes through solid glass.

 

The lazarette on the starboard side of the cockpit has a similar arrangement
for the lid, but the small amount of seepage that probably happens goes
right into the bilge and has not shown any evidence of water accumulating.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 7:15 PM
To: CNC CNC 
Cc: David 
Subject: Stus-List Cockpit Locker Leak...

 

Does anyone else get water in their cockpit locker?   I don't see how it can
get in there from the basic design.  It seems to be damp in there most times
and it makes no sense.

Thanks in advance

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)

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Re: Stus-List Cockpit Locker Leak...

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Also, too. Check the state of the bedding on the plastic thru-hull fittings 
that C used in those channels. May be ready for a re-bedding effort.

Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 
> On Oct 16, 2016, at 8:18 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ll second Chuck’s suggestion. On the 37 (somewhat similar to the 40) there 
> are deck scupper channels that drain to hoses which go to each cockpit 
> scupper drain. I’ve had issues in the past with the hoses giving up and 
> dumping water into the port quarter berth and the starboard cockpit locker.
> 
> FWIW, I considered glassing the channels in during the refit. They are a 
> “great in theory, terrible in practice” item from my experience on the 37. 
> The hoses didn’t drain well and stagnant water always stood in the channels. 
> I left them and will install shut-off valves for future use for rain-water 
> collection to the FW tanks if needed. The original drain hoses to the scupper 
> drains will not be routed to the cockpit scupper through-hulls.
> 
> Dave Godwin
> 1982 C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
> Ronin’s Overdue Refit 
>> On Oct 16, 2016, at 7:42 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> David,
>> Not sure if Corsair's locker has a similar configuration as the Landfall's, 
>> but my deck drains (scuppers) have below deck hoses that run through the 
>> cockpit lazarettes down to the though hulls. I had a bad piece of hose that 
>> had come loose from the deck fitting resulting in a leaky locker and 
>> collected water in the bilge.
>> Chuck Gilchrest 
>> Half Magic
>> 1983 Landfall 35
>> Padanaram MA
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 16, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>>> No, thank dog, mine is dry as a bone.
>>> Andy
>>> C 40
>>> Peregrine 
>>> 
>>> Andrew Burton
>>> 61 W Narragansett
>>> Newport, RI 
>>> USA02840
>>> 
>>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ 
>>> 
>>> +401 965-5260
>>> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2016, at 19:15, David via CnC-List >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Does anyone else get water in their cockpit locker?   I don't see how it 
 can get in there from the basic design.  It seems to be damp in there most 
 times and it makes no sense.
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 David F. Risch
 1981 40-2
 (401) 419-4650 (cell)
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Re: Stus-List Cockpit Locker Leak...

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

I’ll second Chuck’s suggestion. On the 37 (somewhat similar to the 40) there 
are deck scupper channels that drain to hoses which go to each cockpit scupper 
drain. I’ve had issues in the past with the hoses giving up and dumping water 
into the port quarter berth and the starboard cockpit locker.

FWIW, I considered glassing the channels in during the refit. They are a “great 
in theory, terrible in practice” item from my experience on the 37. The hoses 
didn’t drain well and stagnant water always stood in the channels. I left them 
and will install shut-off valves for future use for rain-water collection to 
the FW tanks if needed. The original drain hoses to the scupper drains will not 
be routed to the cockpit scupper through-hulls.

Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 
> On Oct 16, 2016, at 7:42 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> David,
> Not sure if Corsair's locker has a similar configuration as the Landfall's, 
> but my deck drains (scuppers) have below deck hoses that run through the 
> cockpit lazarettes down to the though hulls. I had a bad piece of hose that 
> had come loose from the deck fitting resulting in a leaky locker and 
> collected water in the bilge.
> Chuck Gilchrest 
> Half Magic
> 1983 Landfall 35
> Padanaram MA
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 16, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
> > wrote:
> 
>> No, thank dog, mine is dry as a bone.
>> Andy
>> C 40
>> Peregrine 
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 61 W Narragansett
>> Newport, RI 
>> USA02840
>> 
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ 
>> 
>> +401 965-5260
>> 
>> On Oct 16, 2016, at 19:15, David via CnC-List > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Does anyone else get water in their cockpit locker?   I don't see how it 
>>> can get in there from the basic design.  It seems to be damp in there most 
>>> times and it makes no sense.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> 
>>> David F. Risch
>>> 1981 40-2
>>> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
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Re: Stus-List Cockpit Locker Leak...

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

David,
Not sure if Corsair's locker has a similar configuration as the Landfall's, but 
my deck drains (scuppers) have below deck hoses that run through the cockpit 
lazarettes down to the though hulls. I had a bad piece of hose that had come 
loose from the deck fitting resulting in a leaky locker and collected water in 
the bilge.
Chuck Gilchrest 
Half Magic
1983 Landfall 35
Padanaram MA
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 16, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> No, thank dog, mine is dry as a bone.
> Andy
> C 40
> Peregrine 
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2016, at 19:15, David via CnC-List  wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone else get water in their cockpit locker?   I don't see how it can 
>> get in there from the basic design.  It seems to be damp in there most times 
>> and it makes no sense.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance
>> 
>> David F. Risch
>> 1981 40-2
>> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
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Re: Stus-List Cockpit Locker Leak...

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

No, thank dog, mine is dry as a bone.
Andy
C 40
Peregrine 

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Oct 16, 2016, at 19:15, David via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone else get water in their cockpit locker?   I don't see how it can 
> get in there from the basic design.  It seems to be damp in there most times 
> and it makes no sense.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> David F. Risch
> 1981 40-2
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
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Stus-List Cockpit Locker Leak...

[David via CnC-List]

Does anyone else get water in their cockpit locker?   I don't see how it can 
get in there from the basic design.  It seems to be damp in there most times 
and it makes no sense.

Thanks in advance

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
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Re: Stus-List AIS VHF

[Dave via CnC-List]

Jake, my ICOM m506 vhf is NMEA 2000 compliant and has an. AIS receiver.   It 
plugs into my accursed seatalk NG network via an adapter cable, and my ray i70 
displays the AIS targets.   Plug and play. SeatalkNG is an nmea 2000 
network with a proprietary cable system intended to make it difficult to use 
any non-Raymarine instruments on your network. the data is the same, you must 
simply deal with some non–mating plugs.

I have the icom vhf and a garmin GPS antenna on my SeatalkNG network and both 
work fine.  In one case I added a field attachable nmea2000 connector to a 
SeatalkNG cable, in another I bought a raymarine adapter cable. 

Dave.

Message: 1
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:43:59 -0400
From: "Jake Brodersen" 
To: "'G Collins'" ,
   
Subject: Re: Stus-List AIS VHF
Message-ID: <00c701d227c4$22f63600$68e2a200$@cox.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Graham,



Yes, that would talk to my current plotter, but not to my Raymarine stuff
that is SeaTalk NG.  There's probably a converter available somewhere.  I
plan on getting a Raymarine plotter soon, so everything will be NG then.



Jake

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Re: Stus-List Replacing 33-2 Bow Roller and Fitting

[Rick Taillieu via CnC-List]

Doug,

 

I don’t know if Klacko Marine are still around, they’re in St Catharines.

http://klacko.ca/

Contact info is at the bottom the web page.

 

 

Rick Taillieu

Shearwater Yacht Club

Halifax, NS.

 

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Doug Welch 
via CnC-List
Sent: October-16-16 16:02
To: C List
Cc: doug.we...@rogers.com
Subject: Stus-List Replacing 33-2 Bow Roller and Fitting

 

I would like to replace the Bow Roller and Fitting (stemhead?) on my 33-2 with 
something stainless that's a little beefier, has an attachment point for my 
code zero and provides better gelcoat protection for my self launching anchor. 
Has anyone replaced the bow roller fitting. It looks like the stem fitting is 
totally separate for the jibstay plate. Would love to hear from anyone who has 
experience with removing the stem plate or recommends for a fabricator near 
Pickering On. 

 

Cheers,

Doug

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Stus-List Replacing 33-2 Bow Roller and Fitting

[Doug Welch via CnC-List]

I would like to replace the Bow Roller and Fitting (stemhead?) on my 33-2 with 
something stainless that's a little beefier, has an attachment point for my 
code zero and provides better gelcoat protection for my self launching anchor. 
Has anyone replaced the bow roller fitting. It looks like the stem fitting is 
totally separate for the jibstay plate. Would love to hear from anyone who has 
experience with removing the stem plate or recommends for a fabricator near 
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Re: Stus-List AIS VHF

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Jake — NMEA2000 will talk directly to SeaTalkNG through an adapter cable.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Oct 16, 2016, at 10:43 AM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Graham,
>  
> Yes, that would talk to my current plotter, but not to my Raymarine stuff 
> that is SeaTalk NG.  There’s probably a converter available somewhere.  I 
> plan on getting a Raymarine plotter soon, so everything will be NG then.
>  
> Jake

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Re: Stus-List AIS VHF

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

Graham,

 

Yes, that would talk to my current plotter, but not to my Raymarine stuff
that is SeaTalk NG.  There's probably a converter available somewhere.  I
plan on getting a Raymarine plotter soon, so everything will be NG then.

 

Jake

 

From: G Collins [mailto:cnclistforw...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 11:18
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jake Brodersen 
Subject: Re: Stus-List AIS VHF

 

The VHF / AIS has N2K in/output - so it _should_ be plug and play to your
plotter...

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2016-10-16 10:28 AM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List wrote:

Fred,

 

My VHF is due for replacement.  Adding AIS was always on my to-do list
anyway.  This is a great combination.  How would I get the AIS info to my
chartplotter (Garmin) or Raymarine instruments?  Or should I wait for
Raymarine to introduce their own version of VHF/AIS?  I'm sure it's only a
matter of time before other manufacturers offer similar products.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress"

Hampton VA

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick
G Street via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 08:28
To: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List  

Cc: Frederick G Street   
Subject: Stus-List AIS VHF

 

Well, my prediction a couple of months ago that it would be a while before
we saw combined AIS/VHF transceivers has been proven wrong:

 

http://www.panbo.com/archives/2016/10/standard_horizon_gx6500_a_loaded_vhf_r
adio_also_integrated_with_class_b_ais.html

 

As soon as these are approved and available through distribution, I'll be
able to price them for C listers; let me know if you're interested (Joel.
:^)

 

- Fred

 

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 






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Re: Stus-List AIS VHF

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Graham’s correct, IF you have NMEA2000 in place. If you don’t, there’s still an 
NMEA0183 interface on the GX6500.  If you want to go with a single masthead 
antenna, I’d suggest using the Si-Tex MDA3 antenna switcher.  By doing this 
rather than using two antennas for VHF/AIS, you restrict the AIS’s ability to 
receive when you’re transmitting on VHF; but if you use the radio sparingly, 
then it’s not much of an issue, and you gain the distance advantage of having 
the AIS antenna up high, just like on the VHF.

Reports I’ve seen online suggest an expected availability date in November; 
I’ll let the list know when they start to ship.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Oct 16, 2016, at 10:18 AM, G Collins via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> The VHF / AIS has N2K in/output - so it _should_ be plug and play to your 
> plotter...
> 
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C 35-III #11
> On 2016-10-16 10:28 AM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List wrote:
>> Fred,
>>  
>> My VHF is due for replacement.  Adding AIS was always on my to-do list 
>> anyway.  This is a great combination.  How would I get the AIS info to my 
>> chartplotter (Garmin) or Raymarine instruments?  Or should I wait for 
>> Raymarine to introduce their own version of VHF/AIS?  I’m sure it’s only a 
>> matter of time before other manufacturers offer similar products.
>>  
>> Jake
>>  
>> Jake Brodersen
>> C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”
>> Hampton VA

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Re: Stus-List AIS VHF

[G Collins via CnC-List]

The VHF / AIS has N2K in/output - so it _should_ be plug and play to your 
plotter...

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2016-10-16 10:28 AM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List wrote:
Fred,

My VHF is due for replacement.  Adding AIS was always on my to-do list anyway.  
This is a great combination.  How would I get the AIS info to my chartplotter 
(Garmin) or Raymarine instruments?  Or should I wait for Raymarine to introduce 
their own version of VHF/AIS?  I’m sure it’s only a matter of time before other 
manufacturers offer similar products.

Jake

Jake Brodersen
C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”
Hampton VA



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 08:28
To: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 

Cc: Frederick G Street 
Subject: Stus-List AIS VHF

Well, my prediction a couple of months ago that it would be a while before we 
saw combined AIS/VHF transceivers has been proven wrong:

http://www.panbo.com/archives/2016/10/standard_horizon_gx6500_a_loaded_vhf_radio_also_integrated_with_class_b_ais.html

As soon as these are approved and available through distribution, I’ll be able 
to price them for C listers; let me know if you’re interested (Joel…   :^)

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI




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Re: Stus-List C 25 galley extenstion

[Mark McMenamy via CnC-List]

Yes!

Thanks Rick.

Mark

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> 
> Mark,
> 
> Are these what you're looking for?
> http://www.perko.com/catalog/cabinet_hardware/369/table_brackets/
> 
> 
> Rick Taillieu
> Shearwater Yacht Club
> Halifax, NS.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I was looking at a C 25 on sailingtexas.com and it had what looked like a
> 1 foot by 1 foot plug in extension for the galley.  I have hardware on each
> side above the foot wells that looks like it could receive a two pieces that
> could slide in.   Does this ring a bell with anybody?  It'd be great to some
> how get ahold of the hardware and make the extensions if I needed to.
> 
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> 
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Re: Stus-List C 25 galley extenstion

[Rick Taillieu via CnC-List]

Mark,

Are these what you're looking for?
http://www.perko.com/catalog/cabinet_hardware/369/table_brackets/


Rick Taillieu
Shearwater Yacht Club
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Cc: Mark McMenamy
Subject: Stus-List C 25 galley extenstion

Hello all,

I was looking at a C 25 on sailingtexas.com and it had what looked like a
1 foot by 1 foot plug in extension for the galley.  I have hardware on each
side above the foot wells that looks like it could receive a two pieces that
could slide in.   Does this ring a bell with anybody?  It'd be great to some
how get ahold of the hardware and make the extensions if I needed to.

Thanks,

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Re: Stus-List AIS VHF

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

Fred,

 

My VHF is due for replacement.  Adding AIS was always on my to-do list anyway.  
This is a great combination.  How would I get the AIS info to my chartplotter 
(Garmin) or Raymarine instruments?  Or should I wait for Raymarine to introduce 
their own version of VHF/AIS?  I’m sure it’s only a matter of time before other 
manufacturers offer similar products.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”

Hampton VA

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 08:28
To: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Subject: Stus-List AIS VHF

 

Well, my prediction a couple of months ago that it would be a while before we 
saw combined AIS/VHF transceivers has been proven wrong:

 

http://www.panbo.com/archives/2016/10/standard_horizon_gx6500_a_loaded_vhf_radio_also_integrated_with_class_b_ais.html

 

As soon as these are approved and available through distribution, I’ll be able 
to price them for C listers; let me know if you’re interested (Joel…   :^)

 

— Fred

 

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 

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Stus-List C 25 galley extenstion

[Mark McMenamy via CnC-List]

Hello all,

I was looking at a C 25 on sailingtexas.com and it had what looked like a 1 
foot by 1 foot plug in extension for the galley.  I have hardware on each side 
above the foot wells that looks like it could receive a two pieces that could 
slide in.   Does this ring a bell with anybody?  It'd be great to some how get 
ahold of the hardware and make the extensions if I needed to.

Thanks,

Mark
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