Re: Stus-List C&C 37/40+ holding tank

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

No problem.  Just be careful with the counter top.  The part that wraps
around behind the toilet has a large lever arm and is relatively
unsupported as compared to the rest of the unit.  If too much stress is
applied then stress cracks develop in the GelCoat.  Its tricky to handle
but not impossible.  The absolute hardest part for me was accessing the
connections for the water faucet.

Josh

On Jun 26, 2017 2:08 AM, "Alan Liles via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Thanks, Josh (I think). At least I know, now, what has to come off first.
> It seems like it might take some time.
>
> Al Liles
> SV Elendil
> C&C 37/40+
> Vancouver
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2017, at 8:21 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> You pretty much nailed it.  The shower surround comes first.  Then
> disconnect the water supply and drain hoses.  Remove all the screws
> followed by the counter top.  I'll warn you that the vent is still set far
> back and not easy to access even without the counter top.  You may need to
> make a second access port in one of the cabinets - probably the left most
> cabinet, righthand side.
>
> I had a leaking hand hole in the top of mine.  Then I found out that the
> pickup tube for the pump out had become disconnected and I had to engineer
> a new system.  While I was there I installed a new tank level monitoring
> system.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2017 7:32 PM, "Alan Liles via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone on the list had to access their holding tank? My vent is
>> plugged and I need to access at least one end. There is a small access port
>> in the top of one of the vanity cupboards but that seems fairly useless as
>> I can't see much in there and my hands don't really fit. To get to the tank
>> top it looks like the sink and vanity top have to be removed which also
>> involves the shower plexiglass and support. Any ideas before I disassemble
>> my entire head?
>>
>> Al Liles
>> SV Elendil
>> C&C37/40+
>> Vancouver
>>
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Stus-List Landfall 42 plans/diagrams

[Gary Smith via CnC-List]

Hi All,

Does anyone have original information on the Landfall 42?

I'm looking for something which shows/describes the location and layout of
the Genoa tracks.

The tracks on mine appear to be original but are very far back and very
short - about 8 foot.

Thanks
Gary
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37/40+ holding tank

[Alan Liles via CnC-List]

Thanks, Josh (I think). At least I know, now, what has to come off first. It 
seems like it might take some time. 

Al Liles
SV Elendil
C&C 37/40+
Vancouver 


> On Jun 25, 2017, at 8:21 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> You pretty much nailed it.  The shower surround comes first.  Then disconnect 
> the water supply and drain hoses.  Remove all the screws followed by the 
> counter top.  I'll warn you that the vent is still set far back and not easy 
> to access even without the counter top.  You may need to make a second access 
> port in one of the cabinets - probably the left most cabinet, righthand side.
> 
> I had a leaking hand hole in the top of mine.  Then I found out that the 
> pickup tube for the pump out had become disconnected and I had to engineer a 
> new system.  While I was there I installed a new tank level monitoring system.
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2017 7:32 PM, "Alan Liles via CnC-List"  
>> wrote:
>> Has anyone on the list had to access their holding tank? My vent is plugged 
>> and I need to access at least one end. There is a small access port in the 
>> top of one of the vanity cupboards but that seems fairly useless as I can't 
>> see much in there and my hands don't really fit. To get to the tank top it 
>> looks like the sink and vanity top have to be removed which also involves 
>> the shower plexiglass and support. Any ideas before I disassemble my entire 
>> head?
>> 
>> Al Liles
>> SV Elendil
>> C&C37/40+
>> Vancouver
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Air in fuel line

[Gary Smith via CnC-List]

I assisted a Canadian couple who struggled with the same problem for a
couple of years with various mechanics having no success.it finally
resulted in then having to be towed into a harbor during a storm.

They pulled, cleaned and even modified the tank suspecting blockages. They
also replaced the Racor housing. They were advised to fit a "day tank"
along with many other less than useful suggestions.

The solution was to fit the correct filter cassette. Along the way someone
(I suspect the husband, who was paranoid about the quality of diesel
available in the Indian ocean) had replaced the standard 10 micron with a 2
micron cassette. The vacuum that was created caused air to be drawn in
wherever it could, mostly through the seals on the Racor - including the
brand new one.

It appeared to them, and the mechanics, to be an intermittent problem, but
was obviously (with hindsight) related to engine load and filter state. A
brand new filter would almost work ok.

Yours might not be the same problem although the symptoms sound identical,
but if not, hopefully this assists someone else down the line.


On 26 Jun 2017 05:33, "Josh Muckley via CnC-List" 
wrote:

I have never had much luck with the Racor 200FG which is the smaller
predecessor of the 500.  I've completely rebuilt mine with all new o-rings
and I always vent it thoroughly but still manage to accumulate air.  My
first question is why you didn't put the fuel pumps as close to the tank
physically and hydraulicly as possible, ie: upstream of the racor?  This
would ensure that air was constantly being pushed out of any leaking seals
by pressurized fuel.  Your air leaks would then become fuel leaks and be
both manageable and easier to identify.  It is also unlikely that leaking
fuel would cause the engine to shutdown.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Jun 25, 2017 8:32 PM, "Charlie Nelson via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> My Beta 28 fuel system has recently developed a penchant for sucking air
> into the system somewhere upstream of my electric fuel pumps. (I have 2
> installed in parallel so that I can switch between them if one dies or get
> clogged, etc.)
>
> These pumps are downstream of my Racor 500 30 micron fuel filter/water
> separator. The input to the separator goes directly to the pickup tube
> assembly on the top of my fuel tank via a diesel fuel hose secured with
> hose-clamps--recently installed. (I motored at flank speed  for about 8
> hours after the installation without any issues). The tank pickup tube
> assembly looks identical to a Moeller Fuel pick-up tube which mounts to the
> tank top and has nylon tube which goes straight down into the tank about 12
> inches.
>
> Something is allowing air to get in since my engine will stall frequently
> but randomly. On the first occurrence, I changed both the engine and the
> Racor filter.
>
> When it happened again within an hour of the filter change, I opened the
> system at the input to the engine filter and found either frothy fuel (lots
> of bubbles in it) or just an empty hose. Since the filters had just been
> changed, I figured it had to be a vacuum leak. (I was able to pump fuel
> into the line and get the engine started again each time it happened--over
> the course of a full day of motoring I would guess that it happened on
> average every 1/2 hour).
>
> I tightened all the clamps and the Racor seal as much as I dared and this
> did not prevent the stalls.
>
> My mechanic is as mystified as I am but will likely check-out/replace both
> the Racor entirely and the fuel-pick-up tube. The pick-up tube is original
> which makes it about 22 years old.
>
> My thoughts are the Racor filter or vacuum gauge seals are bad/scored or
> just not seated properly OR the pickup tube assembly is leaking at the tank
> seal or the nylon tube itself has developed small holes or cracks that
> allow air to enter, especially with my fuel pump sucking fuel more
> efficiently than was possible with the mechanical pump on the engine (since
> bypassed).
>
> My questions to the list are--am I missing something else that could cause
> this? Has anyone else had similar vacuum issues and what was the
> cause/solution?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
>
>
> cenel...@aol.com
>
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Re: Stus-List Air in fuel line

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I have never had much luck with the Racor 200FG which is the smaller
predecessor of the 500.  I've completely rebuilt mine with all new o-rings
and I always vent it thoroughly but still manage to accumulate air.  My
first question is why you didn't put the fuel pumps as close to the tank
physically and hydraulicly as possible, ie: upstream of the racor?  This
would ensure that air was constantly being pushed out of any leaking seals
by pressurized fuel.  Your air leaks would then become fuel leaks and be
both manageable and easier to identify.  It is also unlikely that leaking
fuel would cause the engine to shutdown.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Jun 25, 2017 8:32 PM, "Charlie Nelson via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> My Beta 28 fuel system has recently developed a penchant for sucking air
> into the system somewhere upstream of my electric fuel pumps. (I have 2
> installed in parallel so that I can switch between them if one dies or get
> clogged, etc.)
>
> These pumps are downstream of my Racor 500 30 micron fuel filter/water
> separator. The input to the separator goes directly to the pickup tube
> assembly on the top of my fuel tank via a diesel fuel hose secured with
> hose-clamps--recently installed. (I motored at flank speed  for about 8
> hours after the installation without any issues). The tank pickup tube
> assembly looks identical to a Moeller Fuel pick-up tube which mounts to the
> tank top and has nylon tube which goes straight down into the tank about 12
> inches.
>
> Something is allowing air to get in since my engine will stall frequently
> but randomly. On the first occurrence, I changed both the engine and the
> Racor filter.
>
> When it happened again within an hour of the filter change, I opened the
> system at the input to the engine filter and found either frothy fuel (lots
> of bubbles in it) or just an empty hose. Since the filters had just been
> changed, I figured it had to be a vacuum leak. (I was able to pump fuel
> into the line and get the engine started again each time it happened--over
> the course of a full day of motoring I would guess that it happened on
> average every 1/2 hour).
>
> I tightened all the clamps and the Racor seal as much as I dared and this
> did not prevent the stalls.
>
> My mechanic is as mystified as I am but will likely check-out/replace both
> the Racor entirely and the fuel-pick-up tube. The pick-up tube is original
> which makes it about 22 years old.
>
> My thoughts are the Racor filter or vacuum gauge seals are bad/scored or
> just not seated properly OR the pickup tube assembly is leaking at the tank
> seal or the nylon tube itself has developed small holes or cracks that
> allow air to enter, especially with my fuel pump sucking fuel more
> efficiently than was possible with the mechanical pump on the engine (since
> bypassed).
>
> My questions to the list are--am I missing something else that could cause
> this? Has anyone else had similar vacuum issues and what was the
> cause/solution?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
>
>
> cenel...@aol.com
>
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37/40+ holding tank

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

You pretty much nailed it.  The shower surround comes first.  Then
disconnect the water supply and drain hoses.  Remove all the screws
followed by the counter top.  I'll warn you that the vent is still set far
back and not easy to access even without the counter top.  You may need to
make a second access port in one of the cabinets - probably the left most
cabinet, righthand side.

I had a leaking hand hole in the top of mine.  Then I found out that the
pickup tube for the pump out had become disconnected and I had to engineer
a new system.  While I was there I installed a new tank level monitoring
system.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Jun 25, 2017 7:32 PM, "Alan Liles via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Has anyone on the list had to access their holding tank? My vent is
> plugged and I need to access at least one end. There is a small access port
> in the top of one of the vanity cupboards but that seems fairly useless as
> I can't see much in there and my hands don't really fit. To get to the tank
> top it looks like the sink and vanity top have to be removed which also
> involves the shower plexiglass and support. Any ideas before I disassemble
> my entire head?
>
> Al Liles
> SV Elendil
> C&C37/40+
> Vancouver
>
>
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Stus-List C&C 37/40+ holdings tank

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

Our tank it under the sink in the head against the hull.  Kinda hard to miss.  
What do you have under there?

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 C&C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


> On Jun 25, 2017, at 5:33 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 16:31:50 -0700
> From: Alan Liles 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List C&C 37/40+ holdings tank
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii
> 
> Has anyone on the list had to access their holding tank? My vent is plugged 
> and I need to access at least one end. There is a small access port in the 
> top of one of the vanity cupboards but that seems fairly useless as I can't 
> see much in there and my hands don't really fit. To get to the tank top it 
> looks like the sink and vanity top have to be removed which also involves the 
> shower plexiglass and support. Any ideas before I disassemble my entire head?
> 
> Al Liles
> SV Elendil
> C&C37/40+
> Vancouver 
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37/40+ holding tank

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

I'd be interested in this as well -- not so much for the holding tank but I'd 
love to replace the faucet and shower fixtures someday. 

All the best,

Edd

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On Jun 25, 2017, at 7:31 PM, Alan Liles via CnC-List  
wrote:

Has anyone on the list had to access their holding tank? My vent is plugged and 
I need to access at least one end. There is a small access port in the top of 
one of the vanity cupboards but that seems fairly useless as I can't see much 
in there and my hands don't really fit. To get to the tank top it looks like 
the sink and vanity top have to be removed which also involves the shower 
plexiglass and support. Any ideas before I disassemble my entire head?

Al Liles
SV Elendil
C&C37/40+
Vancouver 



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Re: Stus-List Air in fuel line

[Dan Grant via CnC-List]

I just went through similar symptoms and fixed it by changing the O-ring gasket 
on the primary fuel filter cover 

Dan Grant 
Puffin
1970  corvette #148
Ipswich Ma 
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> On Jun 25, 2017, at 8:31 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> My Beta 28 fuel system has recently developed a penchant for sucking air into 
> the system somewhere upstream of my electric fuel pumps. (I have 2 installed 
> in parallel so that I can switch between them if one dies or get clogged, 
> etc.)
> 
> These pumps are downstream of my Racor 500 30 micron fuel filter/water 
> separator. The input to the separator goes directly to the pickup tube 
> assembly on the top of my fuel tank via a diesel fuel hose secured with 
> hose-clamps--recently installed. (I motored at flank speed  for about 8 hours 
> after the installation without any issues). The tank pickup tube assembly 
> looks identical to a Moeller Fuel pick-up tube which mounts to the tank top 
> and has nylon tube which goes straight down into the tank about 12 inches.
> 
> Something is allowing air to get in since my engine will stall frequently but 
> randomly. On the first occurrence, I changed both the engine and the Racor 
> filter. 
> 
> When it happened again within an hour of the filter change, I opened the 
> system at the input to the engine filter and found either frothy fuel (lots 
> of bubbles in it) or just an empty hose. Since the filters had just been 
> changed, I figured it had to be a vacuum leak. (I was able to pump fuel into 
> the line and get the engine started again each time it happened--over the 
> course of a full day of motoring I would guess that it happened on average 
> every 1/2 hour).
> 
> I tightened all the clamps and the Racor seal as much as I dared and this did 
> not prevent the stalls.  
> 
> My mechanic is as mystified as I am but will likely check-out/replace both 
> the Racor entirely and the fuel-pick-up tube. The pick-up tube is original 
> which makes it about 22 years old. 
> 
> My thoughts are the Racor filter or vacuum gauge seals are bad/scored or just 
> not seated properly OR the pickup tube assembly is leaking at the tank seal 
> or the nylon tube itself has developed small holes or cracks that allow air 
> to enter, especially with my fuel pump sucking fuel more efficiently than was 
> possible with the mechanical pump on the engine (since bypassed). 
> 
> My questions to the list are--am I missing something else that could cause 
> this? Has anyone else had similar vacuum issues and what was the 
> cause/solution? 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
> 
> 
> cenel...@aol.com
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Re: Stus-List Sailing NS to NY

[Dave via CnC-List]

Lol...   I was thinking the same thing.   Well done Violleta!

Dave.

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> On Jun 25, 2017, at 2:16 PM, David  wrote:
> 
> I don't know AndyVioletta looks a little shallow on the credentials...
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Violeta Ivanova via CnC-List  
> Date: 6/25/17 8:14 AM (GMT-05:00) 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: Violeta Ivanova  
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sailing NS to NY 
> 
> Hi Andy,
> 
> Do you still need crew for this delivery? I will be interested in coming for 
> this one and/or getting on your crew list in general.
> 
> Brief resume for me: USCG Master 50 Ton Inland license with sail endorsement 
> (brand new Oct 2016, exp 2021), certified sailing instructor for ASA basic 
> keelboat sailing, basic coastal cruising, and coastal navigation. The ink is 
> still drying on the last one, I just got certified as an ASA instructor in 
> March. Since then I did my first Atlantic crossing as a watch captain 
> (actually, solo watches) on a Hallberg Rassy 40 (Tortola-Bermuda-Faial). I am 
> looking to buy my own boat now, checking out a Swan 40 among other things. I 
> got the captain's license, so I could teach sailing, and would like to have 
> my own sailing school on day. I am based in Boston, but don't spend much time 
> there this year. I've been sailing almost full time since February. When I am 
> in Boston, I skipper MIT's 1970s C&C custom 43 xDimension (XD). I posted some 
> XD-related questions a while ago and the C&C listers were super helpful. 
> 
> If you'd like to talk, let me know. My US phone is off right now, because I 
> am still in Europe after the crossing, but I get back to the US in July. You 
> can reach me at this email or my MIT email viol...@mit.edu. If you want to 
> chat on the phone, I can call you at a convenient time. For future reference, 
> my US mobile is +1.857.366.1706, but again, it's off right now. 
> 
> My guess is this is a delivery back home of a boat that will race from 
> Marblehead to Halifax. Out of curiosity, are you racing too? 
> 
> Fair winds,
> 
> Violeta
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> I have to bring a racer/cruiser from exotic Halifax, Nova Scotia to NY 
>> leaving around July 14. I am in need of a third hand for the trip. The boat 
>> is an Xp 44. It's an excellent boat (I brought it back after they won the 
>> Bermuda race last summer); kind of a modern take on what our boats might 
>> have been like if they'd been designed last year instead of 40 years ago!
>> Anyway, if anyone would like to sign on for the trip drop me a line or call. 
>> I have room for one or two people. All reasonable expenses will be on me. My 
>> mate and I plan on going up a day early and renting a car to have a look 
>> around the area before we head to the boat.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Andy
>> C&C 40
>> Peregrine
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 61 W Narragansett
>> Newport, RI
>> USA02840
>> 
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[Dave via CnC-List]

Verrry interesting.your refrigeration unit is in a completely different 
location.   Windstar has a plywood separator dividing the two spaces, but it's 
only a foot high at its tallest.  I was thinking after reading this thread to 
make a machine guard to cover the rotating parts, essentially leaving what I 
have intact. 
Was in FB on Saturday, didn't think to look for you.  Should have studied your 
boat more when you visited!
Btw, Canada day and harbour day festivities are combined next weekend in 
Whitby.   Lots going on, probably the best weekend to visit if you can get a 
slip.  (I'm still on pier 7)


Dave.  

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> On Jun 25, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Doug Welch  wrote:
> 
> Done 
> 
> C&C 33-2 Cockpit Locker Separator
> 
> C&C 33-2 Cockpit Locker Separator
> By Imgur
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> 
> On Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:44 AM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks all for your input and ideas. I will share the solution I implement on
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 at 6:41 PM, Tortuga via CnC-List
>  wrote:
> On my 30, I use a piece of fishing net stretched between broom handles. I can 
> drop the top handle to access the engine compartment. I try not to stow 
> anything in the lazarette that is small enough to go through the net. So far 
> so good. 
> 
> https://1drv.ms/i/s!AkpvkGQ7RaWRhvUpERLYFLJ4uYH1gQ
> 
> Derek Kennedy
> 1979 C&C 30 mk1- Tortuga
> Ballantyne's Cove, NS
> 
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37/40+ holding tank

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

You might try running an electricans  tape from the outside

Joel

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 7:32 PM Alan Liles via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Has anyone on the list had to access their holding tank? My vent is
> plugged and I need to access at least one end. There is a small access port
> in the top of one of the vanity cupboards but that seems fairly useless as
> I can't see much in there and my hands don't really fit. To get to the tank
> top it looks like the sink and vanity top have to be removed which also
> involves the shower plexiglass and support. Any ideas before I disassemble
> my entire head?
>
> Al Liles
> SV Elendil
> C&C37/40+
> Vancouver
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Stus-List Air in fuel line

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

My Beta 28 fuel system has recently developed a penchant for sucking air into 
the system somewhere upstream of my electric fuel pumps. (I have 2 installed in 
parallel so that I can switch between them if one dies or get clogged, etc.)


These pumps are downstream of my Racor 500 30 micron fuel filter/water 
separator. The input to the separator goes directly to the pickup tube assembly 
on the top of my fuel tank via a diesel fuel hose secured with 
hose-clamps--recently installed. (I motored at flank speed  for about 8 hours 
after the installation without any issues). The tank pickup tube assembly looks 
identical to a Moeller Fuel pick-up tube which mounts to the tank top and has 
nylon tube which goes straight down into the tank about 12 inches.


Something is allowing air to get in since my engine will stall frequently but 
randomly. On the first occurrence, I changed both the engine and the Racor 
filter. 


When it happened again within an hour of the filter change, I opened the system 
at the input to the engine filter and found either frothy fuel (lots of bubbles 
in it) or just an empty hose. Since the filters had just been changed, I 
figured it had to be a vacuum leak. (I was able to pump fuel into the line and 
get the engine started again each time it happened--over the course of a full 
day of motoring I would guess that it happened on average every 1/2 hour).


I tightened all the clamps and the Racor seal as much as I dared and this did 
not prevent the stalls.  


My mechanic is as mystified as I am but will likely check-out/replace both the 
Racor entirely and the fuel-pick-up tube. The pick-up tube is original which 
makes it about 22 years old. 


My thoughts are the Racor filter or vacuum gauge seals are bad/scored or just 
not seated properly OR the pickup tube assembly is leaking at the tank seal or 
the nylon tube itself has developed small holes or cracks that allow air to 
enter, especially with my fuel pump sucking fuel more efficiently than was 
possible with the mechanical pump on the engine (since bypassed). 


My questions to the list are--am I missing something else that could cause 
this? Has anyone else had similar vacuum issues and what was the 
cause/solution? 


Thanks,


Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb





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Stus-List C&C 37/40+ holding tank

[Alan Liles via CnC-List]

Has anyone on the list had to access their holding tank? My vent is plugged and 
I need to access at least one end. There is a small access port in the top of 
one of the vanity cupboards but that seems fairly useless as I can't see much 
in there and my hands don't really fit. To get to the tank top it looks like 
the sink and vanity top have to be removed which also involves the shower 
plexiglass and support. Any ideas before I disassemble my entire head?

Al Liles
SV Elendil
C&C37/40+
Vancouver 


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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[Doug Welch via CnC-List]

Done 
C&C 33-2 Cockpit Locker Separator

  
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On Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:44 AM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 Thanks all for your input and ideas. I will share the solution I implement on

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
 On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 at 6:41 PM, Tortuga via CnC-List 
wrote:  On my 30, I use a piece of fishing net stretched between broom handles. 
I can drop the top handle to access the engine compartment. I try not to stow 
anything in the lazarette that is small enough to go through the net. So far so 
good. 
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Derek Kennedy1979 C&C 30 mk1- TortugaBallantyne's Cove, NS
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Re: Stus-List Sailing NS to NY

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

The XP 44 is a great boat. Another won Annapolis Bermuda last year. If I
only had a spare week!

Joel

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 1:17 PM David via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I don't know AndyVioletta looks a little shallow on the credentials...
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Violeta Ivanova via CnC-List 
> Date: 6/25/17 8:14 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Violeta Ivanova 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sailing NS to NY
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> Do you still need crew for this delivery? I will be interested in coming
> for this one and/or getting on your crew list in general.
>
> Brief resume for me: USCG Master 50 Ton Inland license with sail
> endorsement (brand new Oct 2016, exp 2021), certified sailing instructor
> for ASA basic keelboat sailing, basic coastal cruising, and coastal
> navigation. The ink is still drying on the last one, I just got certified
> as an ASA instructor in March. Since then I did my first Atlantic crossing
> as a watch captain (actually, solo watches) on a Hallberg Rassy 40
> (Tortola-Bermuda-Faial). I am looking to buy my own boat now, checking out
> a Swan 40 among other things. I got the captain's license, so I could teach
> sailing, and would like to have my own sailing school on day. I am based in
> Boston, but don't spend much time there this year. I've been sailing almost
> full time since February. When I am in Boston, I skipper MIT's 1970s C&C
> custom 43 xDimension (XD). I posted some XD-related questions a while ago
> and the C&C listers were super helpful.
>
> If you'd like to talk, let me know. My US phone is off right now, because
> I am still in Europe after the crossing, but I get back to the US in July.
> You can reach me at this email or my MIT email viol...@mit.edu. If you
> want to chat on the phone, I can call you at a convenient time. For future
> reference, my US mobile is +1.857.366.1706, but again, it's off right now.
>
> My guess is this is a delivery back home of a boat that will race from
> Marblehead to Halifax. Out of curiosity, are you racing too?
>
> Fair winds,
>
> Violeta
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I have to bring a racer/cruiser from exotic Halifax, Nova Scotia to NY
>> leaving around July 14. I am in need of a third hand for the trip. The boat
>> is an Xp 44. It's an excellent boat (I brought it back after they won the
>> Bermuda race last summer); kind of a modern take on what our boats might
>> have been like if they'd been designed last year instead of 40 years ago!
>> Anyway, if anyone would like to sign on for the trip drop me a line or
>> call. I have room for one or two people. All reasonable expenses will be on
>> me. My mate and I plan on going up a day early and renting a car to have a
>> look around the area before we head to the boat.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Andy
>> C&C 40
>> Peregrine
>>
>> Andrew Burton
>> 61 W Narragansett
>> Newport, RI
>> USA02840
>>
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
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Re: Stus-List Sailing NS to NY

[David via CnC-List]

I don't know AndyVioletta looks a little shallow on the credentials...



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Violeta Ivanova via CnC-List 
Date: 6/25/17 8:14 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Violeta Ivanova 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sailing NS to NY

Hi Andy,

Do you still need crew for this delivery? I will be interested in coming for 
this one and/or getting on your crew list in general.

Brief resume for me: USCG Master 50 Ton Inland license with sail endorsement 
(brand new Oct 2016, exp 2021), certified sailing instructor for ASA basic 
keelboat sailing, basic coastal cruising, and coastal navigation. The ink is 
still drying on the last one, I just got certified as an ASA instructor in 
March. Since then I did my first Atlantic crossing as a watch captain 
(actually, solo watches) on a Hallberg Rassy 40 (Tortola-Bermuda-Faial). I am 
looking to buy my own boat now, checking out a Swan 40 among other things. I 
got the captain's license, so I could teach sailing, and would like to have my 
own sailing school on day. I am based in Boston, but don't spend much time 
there this year. I've been sailing almost full time since February. When I am 
in Boston, I skipper MIT's 1970s C&C custom 43 xDimension (XD). I posted some 
XD-related questions a while ago and the C&C listers were super helpful.

If you'd like to talk, let me know. My US phone is off right now, because I am 
still in Europe after the crossing, but I get back to the US in July. You can 
reach me at this email or my MIT email viol...@mit.edu. 
If you want to chat on the phone, I can call you at a convenient time. For 
future reference, my US mobile is +1.857.366.1706, but again, it's off right 
now.

My guess is this is a delivery back home of a boat that will race from 
Marblehead to Halifax. Out of curiosity, are you racing too?

Fair winds,

Violeta


On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I have to bring a racer/cruiser from exotic Halifax, Nova Scotia to NY leaving 
around July 14. I am in need of a third hand for the trip. The boat is an Xp 
44. It's an excellent boat (I brought it back after they won the Bermuda race 
last summer); kind of a modern take on what our boats might have been like if 
they'd been designed last year instead of 40 years ago!
Anyway, if anyone would like to sign on for the trip drop me a line or call. I 
have room for one or two people. All reasonable expenses will be on me. My mate 
and I plan on going up a day early and renting a car to have a look around the 
area before we head to the boat.

Cheers
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260
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Re: Stus-List Sailing NS to NY

[Violeta Ivanova via CnC-List]

Ahoy!

Did I just posted this on the entire list? Ouch. I am out of practice
posting here.

I meant to email only Andy Burton. Oh well, I guess he's see it too. :)

Everyone else - please ignore the spam!

Fair winds,

Violeta

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 8:13 AM, Violeta Ivanova 
wrote:

> Hi Andy,
>
> Do you still need crew for this delivery? I will be interested in coming
> for this one and/or getting on your crew list in general.
>
> Brief resume for me: USCG Master 50 Ton Inland license with sail
> endorsement (brand new Oct 2016, exp 2021), certified sailing instructor
> for ASA basic keelboat sailing, basic coastal cruising, and coastal
> navigation. The ink is still drying on the last one, I just got certified
> as an ASA instructor in March. Since then I did my first Atlantic crossing
> as a watch captain (actually, solo watches) on a Hallberg Rassy 40
> (Tortola-Bermuda-Faial). I am looking to buy my own boat now, checking out
> a Swan 40 among other things. I got the captain's license, so I could teach
> sailing, and would like to have my own sailing school on day. I am based in
> Boston, but don't spend much time there this year. I've been sailing almost
> full time since February. When I am in Boston, I skipper MIT's 1970s C&C
> custom 43 xDimension (XD). I posted some XD-related questions a while ago
> and the C&C listers were super helpful.
>
> If you'd like to talk, let me know. My US phone is off right now, because
> I am still in Europe after the crossing, but I get back to the US in July.
> You can reach me at this email or my MIT email viol...@mit.edu. If you
> want to chat on the phone, I can call you at a convenient time. For future
> reference, my US mobile is +1.857.366.1706 <(857)%20366-1706>, but again,
> it's off right now.
>
> My guess is this is a delivery back home of a boat that will race from
> Marblehead to Halifax. Out of curiosity, are you racing too?
>
> Fair winds,
>
> Violeta
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I have to bring a racer/cruiser from exotic Halifax, Nova Scotia to NY
>> leaving around July 14. I am in need of a third hand for the trip. The boat
>> is an Xp 44. It's an excellent boat (I brought it back after they won the
>> Bermuda race last summer); kind of a modern take on what our boats might
>> have been like if they'd been designed last year instead of 40 years ago!
>> Anyway, if anyone would like to sign on for the trip drop me a line or
>> call. I have room for one or two people. All reasonable expenses will be on
>> me. My mate and I plan on going up a day early and renting a car to have a
>> look around the area before we head to the boat.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Andy
>> C&C 40
>> Peregrine
>>
>> Andrew Burton
>> 61 W Narragansett
>> Newport, RI
>> USA02840
>>
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
>> ___
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>>
>
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Re: Stus-List Sailing NS to NY

[Violeta Ivanova via CnC-List]

Hi Andy,

Do you still need crew for this delivery? I will be interested in coming
for this one and/or getting on your crew list in general.

Brief resume for me: USCG Master 50 Ton Inland license with sail
endorsement (brand new Oct 2016, exp 2021), certified sailing instructor
for ASA basic keelboat sailing, basic coastal cruising, and coastal
navigation. The ink is still drying on the last one, I just got certified
as an ASA instructor in March. Since then I did my first Atlantic crossing
as a watch captain (actually, solo watches) on a Hallberg Rassy 40
(Tortola-Bermuda-Faial). I am looking to buy my own boat now, checking out
a Swan 40 among other things. I got the captain's license, so I could teach
sailing, and would like to have my own sailing school on day. I am based in
Boston, but don't spend much time there this year. I've been sailing almost
full time since February. When I am in Boston, I skipper MIT's 1970s C&C
custom 43 xDimension (XD). I posted some XD-related questions a while ago
and the C&C listers were super helpful.

If you'd like to talk, let me know. My US phone is off right now, because I
am still in Europe after the crossing, but I get back to the US in July.
You can reach me at this email or my MIT email viol...@mit.edu. If you want
to chat on the phone, I can call you at a convenient time. For future
reference, my US mobile is +1.857.366.1706, but again, it's off right now.

My guess is this is a delivery back home of a boat that will race from
Marblehead to Halifax. Out of curiosity, are you racing too?

Fair winds,

Violeta


On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> I have to bring a racer/cruiser from exotic Halifax, Nova Scotia to NY
> leaving around July 14. I am in need of a third hand for the trip. The boat
> is an Xp 44. It's an excellent boat (I brought it back after they won the
> Bermuda race last summer); kind of a modern take on what our boats might
> have been like if they'd been designed last year instead of 40 years ago!
> Anyway, if anyone would like to sign on for the trip drop me a line or
> call. I have room for one or two people. All reasonable expenses will be on
> me. My mate and I plan on going up a day early and renting a car to have a
> look around the area before we head to the boat.
>
> Cheers
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine
>
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI
> USA02840
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
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