Re: Stus-List was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

IIRC one of our listers took a 30-1 across the Atlantic in a boat named Cousin, 
was it?  Can't remember the name of the lister except it sounded French.So the 
boat can stand up well to offshore work; although I believe he made some 
serious prep before the journey.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL


  From: Allan Rheaume via CnC-List 
 To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
Cc: Allan Rheaume ; "Lisle Kingery, PhD" 

 Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 6:17 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30
   
Lisle the C&C 30 that your looking at is referred to as the Mark II or 30-2, 
great boat I just sold mine after 17 years of ownership. Forward cabin is good 
for only 1 adult or 2 children, the aft cabin is very comfortable and 6'10" 
long. The 30-2 is a considerably bigger boat than the other two your looking at 
and has a wide beam all the way to the stern. The one in your link is more 
expensive than others on yachtworld though it also has a long list of nice 
upgrades.
Al Rheaumeformer 30-2 Drumroll

  From: "Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List" 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: "Lisle Kingery, PhD" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:41 AM
 Subject: Stus-List was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30
  
Hi all,
Update: I looked at the C&C25 and although it appeared to be a basically solid 
boat, it feels a bit too small for a family of 4 and the headroom was a bit 
low. I'm hearing a lot of "3-foot-itis" stories from sellers I'm speaking with. 
So the search goes on. I've found an interesting 1987 Pearson 27 that looks 
promising, here is the link:
https://rochester.craigslist.org/bod/d/1987-pearson-27-2-sailboat/6281575540.html

The one issue with the Pearson is that apparently it got struck by another boat 
on the port bow side that required some repair. 
Also, I'm going to see a 1987 C&C 30 later today that looks promising. Link 
here:
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1987/C%26C-30-3079275/Rochester/NY/United-States#.Wa-z9MiGNPY

Can someone with a C&C 30' tell me how large the v-birth actually is and share 
any experience with the idea of a beginner sailor staring with a boat like this?
thanks,
Lisle
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Stus-List Was considering C&c 25

[Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List]

Hi Lisle,

We were in a similar situation almost 2 years ago before we bought a C&C 34
for family cruising.

I'd never sailed a keel boat and started looking for a boat.  My wife had
never sailed (except when I flipped a laser in a gale at the resort on our
honeymoon).

Since we bought the boat we've had great family adventures for the past two
summers with our kids who were 3 and 6.

In hindsight, I wouldn't be as worried about a bigger boat. We agree that
we're glad we didn't go with anything smaller.  [To think I almost bought a
Catalina 22 at one point].  Now we're starting to look at bigger boats...
 problem is the attachment and investment into the 34' at this point.  For
this reason I'd recommend buying something that has the size and extras
that you might want in the future (perhaps updated rigging, nice gel
coat, repower,
rewire, good battery setup, diesel heater, furling jib, windlass, good
sails, jack lines, masthead antenna, electronics, dodger, canvas, BBQ, ,
...)  The cost of these may not be reflected in the market prices.

To get up to speed, I took some cruising courses.  Bought the boat and
hired an instructor for a few sessions to help us learn the ropes on our
own boat.  We still have so much to learn and we've already learned so
much.  We can manage the 34' and everyone has fun.  The best weeks of our
summer were spent at anchor in Desolation Sound.

Cheers,

  Jeremy
  C&C 34-1 #041
  Vancouver BC
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Re: Stus-List was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30

[Morgan Ellis via CnC-List]

That C&C 30 is a Mk-2 design. I just bought the same model this spring and
we love it! I decided on this model for many reasons, I hate 2 footitis for
one, it is very easy to single hand, and it is one beautiful boat!

 The family we bought it from had 2 daughters  (6&9) and the girls had no
problem sharing the v-birth. I find it a bit tight for 2 adults to sleep
comfortably in but we have managed it a couple of times.

Morgan
S/V Meandher
C&C 30-2 #140

On Sep 6, 2017 3:41 AM, "Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Update: I looked at the C&C25 and although it appeared to be a basically
> solid boat, it feels a bit too small for a family of 4 and the headroom was
> a bit low. I'm hearing a lot of "3-foot-itis" stories from sellers I'm
> speaking with. So the search goes on. I've found an interesting 1987
> Pearson 27 that looks promising, here is the link:
>
> https://rochester.craigslist.org/bod/d/1987-pearson-27-2-
> sailboat/6281575540.html
>
> The one issue with the Pearson is that apparently it got struck by another
> boat on the port bow side that required some repair.
>
> Also, I'm going to see a 1987 C&C 30 later today that looks promising.
> Link here:
>
> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1987/C%26C-30-3079275/
> Rochester/NY/United-States#.Wa-z9MiGNPY
>
> Can someone with a C&C 30' tell me how large the v-birth actually is and
> share any experience with the idea of a beginner sailor staring with a boat
> like this?
>
> thanks,
>
> Lisle
>
>
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Stus-List Selling Catalina 27 bought C&C 34

[Christian Planton via CnC-List]

I was not in the market for a new boat but a friend of mine decided to sell
his C&C 34 for a price I could not pass up. The problem is I still have my
Catalina 27. It is a great boat and ready to go sailing. Universal Diesel.
I can send anybody who is interested a full list of the equipment.   I will
let it go for a great price.  If anybody knows someone looking I am a very
motivated seller. Wife is not happy we have a navy. To save my marriage I
have to sell this boat. The boat is in Connecticut on the Housatonic River.

Christian
C&C 34 1980
Catalina 27 1984

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Re: Stus-List Was considering C&c 25

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Lisle,

I started with a 27 foot sailboat.  Then I moved up to my 35.  My gosh!  It
was big!  The bow pulpit was in the next area code.  How in the world could
I ever handle such a monster?

That lasted a week or so.  Go big or go home!

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:16 PM, Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Thanks for all the replies, very helpful as I think (obsess) over the boat
> options. 😀
>
> I'm torn between the Pearson 27 and the C&c 30. As noted, the 30 is a much
> bigger boat and maybe not the best choice for a beginnner?
>
> My goal/plan is to learn her over the next 5-8 years on Lake Ontario and
> Seneca lake, and then consider taking her down for longer trips down the
> east coast cruising once the kids get older (currently 6 and 4). I'm
> thinking the C&c would clearly better meet that long term fantasy.
>
> I could start with the 27 then if it works out could move up in 5-8 years
> but wonder if it would be better to grow into a boat rather than grow out
> of one.
>
> Thanks again for your replies.
>
> Lisle
>
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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 140, Issue 28

[Christian Planton via CnC-List]

I was not in the market for a new boat but a friend of mine decided to sell
his C&C 34 for a price I could not pass up. The problem is I still have my
Catalina 27. It is a great boat and ready to go sailing. Universal Diesel.
I can send anybody who is interested a full list of the equipment.   I will
let it go for a great price.  If anybody knows someone looking I am a very
motivated seller. Wife is not happy we have a navy. To save my marriage I
have to sell this boat. The boat is in Connecticut on the Housatonic River.

Christian
C&C 34 1980
Catalina 27 1984



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>1. Re:  was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30 (Cleverboy)
>2. Re:  Whereabouts??? (Edd Schillay)
>3. Re:  was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30
>   (Della Barba, Joe)
>4. Re:  was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30
>   (Allan Rheaume)
>5. Re:  was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30
>   (Kevin Driscoll)
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>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Cleverboy 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 21:34:07 +
> Subject: Re: Stus-List was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30
>
> Hi Lisle;
>
> I acquired my C&C 30 MK1 last year. I love it. My Destrier is practically
> all original with no self tailing winches or roller furling headsail. Part
> of it's charm to me. The only issue beyond my ability is that mine came
> with a couple of soft spots. Especially the cockpit sole where PO installed
> a handpump. Plenty of room below for 4 with over 6' of headroom. Stands up
> to almost anything you would choose to sail in.
>
> Charles Ferrari
>
> Bronx, NY
>
> C&C 30 MK1
>
> Destrier
> --
> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Lisle
> Kingery, PhD via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 6, 2017 8:40:49 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Lisle Kingery, PhD
> *Subject:* Stus-List was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30
>
> Hi all,
>
> Update: I looked at the C&C25 and although it appeared to be a basically
> solid boat, it feels a bit too small for a family of 4 and the headroom was
> a bit low. I'm hearing a lot of "3-foot-itis" stories from sellers I'm
> speaking with. So the search goes on. I've found an interesting 1987
> Pearson 27 that looks promising, here is the link:
>
> https://rochester.craigslist.org/bod/d/1987-pearson-27-2-
> sailboat/6281575540.html
>
> The one issue with the Pearson is that apparently it got struck by another
> boat on the port bow side that required some repair.
>
> Also, I'm going to see a 1987 C&C 30 later today that looks promising.
> Link here:
>
> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1987/C%26C-30-3079275/
> Rochester/NY/United-States#.Wa-z9MiGNPY
>
> Can someone with a C&C 30' tell me how large the v-birth actually is and
> share any experience with the idea of a beginner sailor staring with a boat
> like this?
>
> thanks,
>
> Lisle
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Edd Schillay 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 17:44:22 -0400
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Whereabouts???
> Dodged most of the rain today, and now at Dock F at Cedar Island Marina in
> Clinton, CT -- the location of our 2015 C&C Rendezvous.
>
> All weather should clear the area by 3AM, then all beautiful for the next
> several days.
>
> Next leg tomorrow: 25 miles to Greenport, the location of the 2017 C&C
> (and one f-in Hunter) Rendezvous --  www.cncnortheast.com.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
> ---
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+
> Sail Number: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, New York
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: "Della Barba, Joe" 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 22:01:39 +
> Subject: Re: Stus-List was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30
>
> A C&C 30  > than a Pearson 27 and perhaps a 30. The C&C 30 MK I is very
> much a “real boat” capable of major offshore work if you ever want to do it.
>
> Given the depressed boat market, I see 

Re: Stus-List Was considering C&c 25

[Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List]

  
  


Lisle,
I'll offer some of my own thoughts. I sailed/raced dinghies as a
  teenager (in Lake Ontario).  Then did a bit of crewing on keel
  boats after I finished school.  Years later I wanted back into
  sailing - I found a inexpensive 24 ft Mirage (which had it's roots
  in C&C) and got my feet wet. I had never docked a large boat
  and was well out of my comfort zone even with the 24.

The first time I ran 50m from the hoist to a slip I was sweating
  worried I'd bounce off one of the other boats.  Worked out ok, and
  I quickly remembered my love for sailing.  Comfort with the 24
  built gradually - as I docked in more challenging conditions,
  couldn't start my out board and docked under sail, ended up in
  stiffer conditions than I expected and had to figure out how to
  reef on the fly and sail the boat home into the wind.

Within 2 years I wanted something bigger.  I bought a CS30 (I
  came across this list looking for advice on a couple C&C's
  that fell though) - first time I was driving that boat had me
  right back out of my comfort zone - but it returned quickly.
While the bigger boat has a chance of doing more damage with
  higher forces on the lines, more mass to stop or re-direct and
  more complex systems, I'd say the learning curve jumping straight
  to the 30 wouldn't be too bad.  Especially if you're smarter than
  me and found a more experienced buddy to take you out at the
  start, get you off on the right foot, plus come out a few times
  when the weather is a bit more lively, help you learn.
After 2 years in the Mirage 24, and now almost 4 years in the CS
  30 I'm still learning, still uncomfortable at times, but gaining
  more and more confidence.  I'm pretty happy with my current size -
  there is enough room to take out my 4 teenagers overnight, plenty
  of space if just the girlfriend and I want to go together for a
  few days, and still manageable size if I'm sailing solo.  The 30
  is literally twice the boat (twice the displacement, twice the
  interior volume) - which means twice the effort to clean the hull
  and repaint in the spring, twice the cost for gear -- but for me
  it's a good balance point.
Best of luck
Mark
CS 30 Prosecco
Deep Cove, Nova Scotia



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  - George Santayana
On 2017-09-06 10:16 PM, Lisle Kingery,
  PhD via CnC-List wrote:


  Thanks for all the replies, very helpful as I
think (obsess) over the boat options. 😀
  
  
  I'm torn between the Pearson 27 and the C&c
30. As noted, the 30 is a much bigger boat and maybe not the
best choice for a beginnner?
  
  
  My goal/plan is to learn her over the next 5-8
years on Lake Ontario and Seneca lake, and then consider taking
her down for longer trips down the east coast cruising once the
kids get older (currently 6 and 4). I'm thinking the C&c
would clearly better meet that long term fantasy. 
  
  
  I could start with the 27 then if it works out
could move up in 5-8 years but wonder if it would be better to
grow into a boat rather than grow out of one.
  
  
  Thanks again for your replies.
  
  
  Lisle
  
  
  
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Re: Stus-List Was considering C&c 25

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

If I may suggest, don’t buy a boat that is too small. It is not easy to sell 
your boat (for the money it is worth) to upgrade to a few feet more. Buy the 
boat you want to have. I don’t think sailing a 30 is that much different (more 
difficult) than a 27.

Not to mention that a Pearson would never look as good as a C&C (-;).

Marek

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From: Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 22:17
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Lisle Kingery, PhD
Subject: Stus-List Was considering C&c 25

Thanks for all the replies, very helpful as I think (obsess) over the boat 
options. 😀

I'm torn between the Pearson 27 and the C&c 30. As noted, the 30 is a much 
bigger boat and maybe not the best choice for a beginnner?

My goal/plan is to learn her over the next 5-8 years on Lake Ontario and Seneca 
lake, and then consider taking her down for longer trips down the east coast 
cruising once the kids get older (currently 6 and 4). I'm thinking the C&c 
would clearly better meet that long term fantasy.

I could start with the 27 then if it works out could move up in 5-8 years but 
wonder if it would be better to grow into a boat rather than grow out of one.

Thanks again for your replies.

Lisle
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Stus-List Was considering C&c 25

[Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List]

Thanks for all the replies, very helpful as I think (obsess) over the boat
options. 😀

I'm torn between the Pearson 27 and the C&c 30. As noted, the 30 is a much
bigger boat and maybe not the best choice for a beginnner?

My goal/plan is to learn her over the next 5-8 years on Lake Ontario and
Seneca lake, and then consider taking her down for longer trips down the
east coast cruising once the kids get older (currently 6 and 4). I'm
thinking the C&c would clearly better meet that long term fantasy.

I could start with the 27 then if it works out could move up in 5-8 years
but wonder if it would be better to grow into a boat rather than grow out
of one.

Thanks again for your replies.

Lisle
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Re: Stus-List was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30

[Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List]

Lisle, I also have a 30 mkII. My wife and I sleep in the aft cabin. (Well,
until recently now that our 2 month old has evicted me. Now I sleep in the
vee birth with our 2 year old)

We easily spend 50-60 nights a year on board. Lovely boat. Have taken her
over the Columbia River Bar and up the Pacific Coast as well. No problems
what so ever.



On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:17 PM Allan Rheaume via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Lisle the C&C 30 that your looking at is referred to as the Mark II or
> 30-2, great boat I just sold mine after 17 years of ownership. Forward
> cabin is good for only 1 adult or 2 children, the aft cabin is very
> comfortable and 6'10" long. The 30-2 is a considerably bigger boat than the
> other two your looking at and has a wide beam all the way to the stern. The
> one in your link is more expensive than others on yachtworld though it also
> has a long list of nice upgrades.
>
> Al Rheaume
> former 30-2 Drumroll
>
>
> --
> *From:* "Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List" 
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* "Lisle Kingery, PhD" 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:41 AM
>
> *Subject:* Stus-List was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30
>
> Hi all,
>
> Update: I looked at the C&C25 and although it appeared to be a basically
> solid boat, it feels a bit too small for a family of 4 and the headroom was
> a bit low. I'm hearing a lot of "3-foot-itis" stories from sellers I'm
> speaking with. So the search goes on. I've found an interesting 1987
> Pearson 27 that looks promising, here is the link:
>
>
> https://rochester.craigslist.org/bod/d/1987-pearson-27-2-sailboat/6281575540.html
>
> The one issue with the Pearson is that apparently it got struck by another
> boat on the port bow side that required some repair.
>
> Also, I'm going to see a 1987 C&C 30 later today that looks promising.
> Link here:
>
>
> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1987/C%26C-30-3079275/Rochester/NY/United-States#.Wa-z9MiGNPY
>
> Can someone with a C&C 30' tell me how large the v-birth actually is and
> share any experience with the idea of a beginner sailor staring with a boat
> like this?
>
> thanks,
>
> Lisle
>
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Re: Stus-List was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30

[Allan Rheaume via CnC-List]

Lisle the C&C 30 that your looking at is referred to as the Mark II or 30-2, 
great boat I just sold mine after 17 years of ownership. Forward cabin is good 
for only 1 adult or 2 children, the aft cabin is very comfortable and 6'10" 
long. The 30-2 is a considerably bigger boat than the other two your looking at 
and has a wide beam all the way to the stern. The one in your link is more 
expensive than others on yachtworld though it also has a long list of nice 
upgrades.
Al Rheaumeformer 30-2 Drumroll

  From: "Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List" 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: "Lisle Kingery, PhD" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:41 AM
 Subject: Stus-List was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30
   
Hi all,
Update: I looked at the C&C25 and although it appeared to be a basically solid 
boat, it feels a bit too small for a family of 4 and the headroom was a bit 
low. I'm hearing a lot of "3-foot-itis" stories from sellers I'm speaking with. 
So the search goes on. I've found an interesting 1987 Pearson 27 that looks 
promising, here is the link:
https://rochester.craigslist.org/bod/d/1987-pearson-27-2-sailboat/6281575540.html

The one issue with the Pearson is that apparently it got struck by another boat 
on the port bow side that required some repair. 
Also, I'm going to see a 1987 C&C 30 later today that looks promising. Link 
here:
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1987/C%26C-30-3079275/Rochester/NY/United-States#.Wa-z9MiGNPY

Can someone with a C&C 30' tell me how large the v-birth actually is and share 
any experience with the idea of a beginner sailor staring with a boat like this?
thanks,
Lisle
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Re: Stus-List was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

A C&C 30  > than a Pearson 27 and perhaps a 30. The C&C 30 MK I is very much a 
"real boat" capable of major offshore work if you ever want to do it.
Given the depressed boat market, I see no reason to go smaller than you need.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I



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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 5:34 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Cleverboy 
Subject: Re: Stus-List was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30


Hi Lisle;

I acquired my C&C 30 MK1 last year. I love it. My Destrier is practically all 
original with no self tailing winches or roller furling headsail. Part of it's 
charm to me. The only issue beyond my ability is that mine came with a couple 
of soft spots. Especially the cockpit sole where PO installed a handpump. 
Plenty of room below for 4 with over 6' of headroom. Stands up to almost 
anything you would choose to sail in.

Charles Ferrari

Bronx, NY

C&C 30 MK1

Destrier


From: CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> on behalf 
of Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 8:40:49 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Lisle Kingery, PhD
Subject: Stus-List was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30

Hi all,

Update: I looked at the C&C25 and although it appeared to be a basically solid 
boat, it feels a bit too small for a family of 4 and the headroom was a bit 
low. I'm hearing a lot of "3-foot-itis" stories from sellers I'm speaking with. 
So the search goes on. I've found an interesting 1987 Pearson 27 that looks 
promising, here is the link:

https://rochester.craigslist.org/bod/d/1987-pearson-27-2-sailboat/6281575540.html

The one issue with the Pearson is that apparently it got struck by another boat 
on the port bow side that required some repair.

Also, I'm going to see a 1987 C&C 30 later today that looks promising. Link 
here:

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1987/C%26C-30-3079275/Rochester/NY/United-States#.Wa-z9MiGNPY

Can someone with a C&C 30' tell me how large the v-birth actually is and share 
any experience with the idea of a beginner sailor staring with a boat like this?

thanks,

Lisle

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Re: Stus-List Whereabouts???

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Dodged most of the rain today, and now at Dock F at Cedar Island Marina in 
Clinton, CT -- the location of our 2015 C&C Rendezvous. 

All weather should clear the area by 3AM, then all beautiful for the next 
several days. 

Next leg tomorrow: 25 miles to Greenport, the location of the 2017 C&C (and one 
f-in Hunter) Rendezvous --  www.cncnortheast.com. 

All the best,

Edd

---
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Captain of the Starship Enterprise 
C&C 37+ 
Sail Number: NCC-1701-B
City Island, New York
---
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Re: Stus-List was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30

[Cleverboy via CnC-List]

Hi Lisle;

I acquired my C&C 30 MK1 last year. I love it. My Destrier is practically all 
original with no self tailing winches or roller furling headsail. Part of it's 
charm to me. The only issue beyond my ability is that mine came with a couple 
of soft spots. Especially the cockpit sole where PO installed a handpump. 
Plenty of room below for 4 with over 6' of headroom. Stands up to almost 
anything you would choose to sail in.

Charles Ferrari

Bronx, NY

C&C 30 MK1

Destrier


From: CnC-List  on behalf of Lisle Kingery, PhD 
via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 8:40:49 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Lisle Kingery, PhD
Subject: Stus-List was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30

Hi all,

Update: I looked at the C&C25 and although it appeared to be a basically solid 
boat, it feels a bit too small for a family of 4 and the headroom was a bit 
low. I'm hearing a lot of "3-foot-itis" stories from sellers I'm speaking with. 
So the search goes on. I've found an interesting 1987 Pearson 27 that looks 
promising, here is the link:

https://rochester.craigslist.org/bod/d/1987-pearson-27-2-sailboat/6281575540.html

The one issue with the Pearson is that apparently it got struck by another boat 
on the port bow side that required some repair.

Also, I'm going to see a 1987 C&C 30 later today that looks promising. Link 
here:

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1987/C%26C-30-3079275/Rochester/NY/United-States#.Wa-z9MiGNPY

Can someone with a C&C 30' tell me how large the v-birth actually is and share 
any experience with the idea of a beginner sailor staring with a boat like this?

thanks,

Lisle

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Stus-List C&C 40 NOW visiting Victoria

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

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via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 4:07 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Hoyne 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40

There are not too many downtown. If you head to Oak Bay Marina there are quite 
a few. (mine is there) I might be there Friday afternoon.
Bill

Bill Hoyne
Mithrandir
’74 C&C35 MkII
in Victoria,BC


On Sep 6, 2017, at 1:43 PM, John McKay via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Victoria BC

I am arriving in Victoria tomorrow afternoon.

Are there a lot of C&C owners in the downtown harbour that I can wander through?

John on Enterprise
C&C 33 MK II
Komoka Ontario


On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:29 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

https://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/d/and-40/6290084707.html

FYI
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Re: Stus-List C&C 40

[Bill Hoyne via CnC-List]

There are not too many downtown. If you head to Oak Bay Marina there are quite 
a few. (mine is there) I might be there Friday afternoon.
Bill

Bill Hoyne
Mithrandir
’74 C&C35 MkII
in Victoria,BC


> On Sep 6, 2017, at 1:43 PM, John McKay via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Victoria BC
> 
> I am arriving in Victoria tomorrow afternoon. 
> 
> Are there a lot of C&C owners in the downtown harbour that I can wander 
> through?
> 
> John on Enterprise
> C&C 33 MK II
> Komoka Ontario
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:29 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> https://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/d/and-40/6290084707.html 
> 
>  
> FYI
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Re: Stus-List C&C 40

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

Wow!  If only I had a lake worthy of it.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL


  From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
 To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 1:29 PM
 Subject: Stus-List C&C 40
   
 https://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/d/and-40/6290084707.html    FYI 
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Re: Stus-List Whereabouts???

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

So if the numbers for the rendezvous get too low we can make it C&C&C's which 
would open it up quite a bit. 
J
Hideaway

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 6, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> H.  I think I'll bring my deflector shield just in case.   Jerry 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 6, 2017, at 11:03 AM, coltrek via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Pretty cool. Can I buy one of those?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Bill Coleman 
>>  C&C 39
>> 
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
>> Date: 9/5/17 09:14 (GMT-05:00) 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> Cc: Edd Schillay  
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Whereabouts??? 
>> 
>> Yes Jerry. You should come! 
>> 
>> We will not fire any photon torpedoes at your Hunter -- promise. 
>> 
>> ... though I can't make any promises to other non-C&Cers who show up. Here 
>> is an example of when the Enterprise was approached by a hostile Taylor 34 
>> sloop:
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/_hja2puzxwk
>> 
>> Departing Norwalk in 45 minutes. Next stop: Milford Yacht Club. 
>> 
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Edd
>> 
>> ---
>> Edd M. Schillay
>> Captain of the Starship Enterprise 
>> C&C 37+ 
>> Sail Number: NCC-1701-B
>> City Island, New York
>> ---
>> 914.774.9767   | Mobile
>> ---
>> Sent via iPhone 7
>> iPhone. iTypos. iApologize
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 5, 2017, at 8:54 AM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Jerry,
>> Come to the Rendezvous. Bring the Hunter. It will be fun. We can marvel at 
>> the amenities:).  This is more about people than boats. Ama and I would love 
>> to see you and Janet. 
>> 
>> Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!
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Re: Stus-List C&C 40

[John McKay via CnC-List]

Victoria BC
I am arriving in Victoria tomorrow afternoon. 
Are there a lot of C&C owners in the downtown harbour that I can wander through?
John on EnterpriseC&C 33 MK IIKomoka Ontario
 

On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:29 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
 wrote:
 

  https://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/d/and-40/6290084707.html    FYI 
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Stus-List C&C 40

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

https://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/d/and-40/6290084707.html

FYI
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Re: Stus-List Whereabouts???

[Jerome Tauber via CnC-List]

H.  I think I'll bring my deflector shield just in case.   Jerry 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 6, 2017, at 11:03 AM, coltrek via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Pretty cool. Can I buy one of those?
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Bill Coleman 
>  C&C 39
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
> Date: 9/5/17 09:14 (GMT-05:00) 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: Edd Schillay  
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Whereabouts??? 
> 
> Yes Jerry. You should come! 
> 
> We will not fire any photon torpedoes at your Hunter -- promise. 
> 
> ... though I can't make any promises to other non-C&Cers who show up. Here is 
> an example of when the Enterprise was approached by a hostile Taylor 34 sloop:
> 
> https://youtu.be/_hja2puzxwk
> 
> Departing Norwalk in 45 minutes. Next stop: Milford Yacht Club. 
> 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> ---
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise 
> C&C 37+ 
> Sail Number: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, New York
> ---
> 914.774.9767   | Mobile
> ---
> Sent via iPhone 7
> iPhone. iTypos. iApologize
> 
> 
> On Sep 5, 2017, at 8:54 AM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jerry,
> Come to the Rendezvous. Bring the Hunter. It will be fun. We can marvel at 
> the amenities:).  This is more about people than boats. Ama and I would love 
> to see you and Janet. 
> 
> Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!
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Re: Stus-List jellyfish mask?

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

It is a snorkeling device; but you have to stay on the surface with it, as you 
can’t easily equalize your ears or clear the built-in snorkel…

— Fred

Frederick G Street
13925 277th Ave
Zimmerman MN   55398

f...@postaudio.net
612.839.6565 cell

> On Sep 6, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don’t see how it works with a regulator. It seems to be a snorkeling device.
>  
>  
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina
> C&C 35 MK I

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Re: Stus-List jellyfish mask?

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

☺
Ordered


Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 11:42 AM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List jellyfish mask?

https://www.amazon.com/Swimming-Protection-Protecting-Jellyfish-Sunblock/dp/B06VXY2XWD/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1504712498&sr=8-8&keywords=jellyfish+mask

Dennis C.

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Anyone have a good idea for a jellyfish-proof facemask? My rashguard keeps them 
off most of me, but one landed right on my face yesterday while I was cleaning 
the bottom. Our Maryland jellyfish won’t kill you like some do, but they are 
kind of annoying.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I


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Re: Stus-List jellyfish mask?

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I don’t see how it works with a regulator. It seems to be a snorkeling device.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 11:37 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass 
Subject: Re: Stus-List jellyfish mask?

What about one of these?

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/head-snorkeling-equipment--sea-vu-dry-full-face-mask--P018001776?recordNum=1

I paid more than this for a good quality dive mask that was supposed to have 
been designed to seal even if you had a mustache. It doesn’t work very well. So 
I’ve been thinking about one of these full face masks. They  go on sale at WM 
about twice a year.

Rick Brass
Washington, NC



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, 
Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 10:47 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>>
Subject: Stus-List jellyfish mask?

Anyone have a good idea for a jellyfish-proof facemask? My rashguard keeps them 
off most of me, but one landed right on my face yesterday while I was cleaning 
the bottom. Our Maryland jellyfish won’t kill you like some do, but they are 
kind of annoying.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I


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Re: Stus-List jellyfish mask?

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

There was a recent thread on those in SA.  The reviews were not great FWIW.

Joel

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> What about one of these?
>
>
>
> https://www.westmarine.com/buy/head-snorkeling-equipment-
> -sea-vu-dry-full-face-mask--P018001776?recordNum=1
>
>
>
> I paid more than this for a good quality dive mask that was supposed to
> have been designed to seal even if you had a mustache. It doesn’t work very
> well. So I’ve been thinking about one of these full face masks. They  go on
> sale at WM about twice a year.
>
>
>
> Rick Brass
>
> Washington, NC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Della
> Barba, Joe via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 6, 2017 10:47 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Della Barba, Joe 
> *Subject:* Stus-List jellyfish mask?
>
>
>
> Anyone have a good idea for a jellyfish-proof facemask? My rashguard keeps
> them off most of me, but one landed right on my face yesterday while I was
> cleaning the bottom. Our Maryland jellyfish won’t kill you like some do,
> but they are kind of annoying.
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina
>
> C&C 35 MK I
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List jellyfish mask?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

https://www.amazon.com/Swimming-Protection-Protecting-Jellyfish-Sunblock/dp/B06VXY2XWD/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1504712498&sr=8-8&keywords=jellyfish+mask

Dennis C.

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Anyone have a good idea for a jellyfish-proof facemask? My rashguard keeps
> them off most of me, but one landed right on my face yesterday while I was
> cleaning the bottom. Our Maryland jellyfish won’t kill you like some do,
> but they are kind of annoying.
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina
>
> C&C 35 MK I
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List jellyfish mask?

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

What about one of these?

 

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/head-snorkeling-equipment--sea-vu-dry-full-face-mask--P018001776?recordNum=1

 

I paid more than this for a good quality dive mask that was supposed to have 
been designed to seal even if you had a mustache. It doesn’t work very well. So 
I’ve been thinking about one of these full face masks. They  go on sale at WM 
about twice a year.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, 
Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 10:47 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Stus-List jellyfish mask?

 

Anyone have a good idea for a jellyfish-proof facemask? My rashguard keeps them 
off most of me, but one landed right on my face yesterday while I was cleaning 
the bottom. Our Maryland jellyfish won’t kill you like some do, but they are 
kind of annoying.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina

C&C 35 MK I

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Whereabouts???

[coltrek via CnC-List]

Pretty cool. Can I buy one of those?


Regards,
Bill Coleman  C&C 39

 Original message 
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
Date: 9/5/17  09:14  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Edd Schillay  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Whereabouts??? 

Yes Jerry. You should come! 
We will not fire any photon torpedoes at your Hunter -- promise. 
... though I can't make any promises to other non-C&Cers who show up. Here is 
an example of when the Enterprise was approached by a hostile Taylor 34 sloop:
https://youtu.be/_hja2puzxwk
Departing Norwalk in 45 minutes. Next stop: Milford Yacht Club. 

All the best,
Edd
---Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the Starship 
Enterprise C&C 37+ Sail Number: NCC-1701-BCity Island, New 
York---914.774.9767   | 
Mobile---Sent via iPhone 7iPhone. iTypos. 
iApologize

On Sep 5, 2017, at 8:54 AM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Jerry,Come to the Rendezvous. Bring the Hunter. It will be fun. We can marvel 
at the amenities:).  This is more about people than boats. Ama and I would love 
to see you and Janet. 
Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!
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Stus-List jellyfish mask?

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Anyone have a good idea for a jellyfish-proof facemask? My rashguard keeps them 
off most of me, but one landed right on my face yesterday while I was cleaning 
the bottom. Our Maryland jellyfish won’t kill you like some do, but they are 
kind of annoying.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I

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Stus-List 33-1 owners

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

The first 33s rock!  If there's enough interest in forming an owners group on 
the C&C website, pls email me at blhick...@yahoo.com with the subject line 
C&C33-1.  Love my 33-1 and its Atomic 4. Boat owners come aboard and can't 
believe how quiet she is. Still have alcohol stove which has been rehabbed and 
works well. Pretty boat, well balanced, and competitive  
BLHICKSON "Flight Risk" Chas., SC. 
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  1. Re:  cleaning thru hulls. (Ronald B. Frerker)
  2.  Selling 26' C&C Washington State (Dan Utinske)
  3. Re:  LED bulb lumen equivalents (Peter Fell)
  4. Re:  Big Boat on my property C&C 33 mk1 (bobmor99 .)
  5. Re:  Selling 26' C&C Washington State (Bill Dakin)
  6.  E measurement (wwadjo...@aol.com)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 20:41:21 + (UTC)
From: "Ronald B. Frerker" 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List cleaning thru hulls.
Message-ID: <1570417610.3412223.1504644081...@mail.yahoo.com>
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Active ingredient in coke is phosphoric acid. ?Same as some bathroom cleaners. 
?Might be cheaper than way and less sticky.Muriatic is more hazardous.RonWild 
CheriC&C 30-1STL


      From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Andrew Burton 
 Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 6:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List cleaning thru hulls.
  
Not being facetious; soak em in Coca Cola. Just cleaned up some very tarnished 
bronze that way. You might have to take a wire brush to them as well.AndyC&C 
40Peregrine

Andrew Burton61 W NarragansettNewport, RI?USA ? ?02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260
On Sep 4, 2017, at 19:25, Bev Parslow via CnC-List  
wrote:


Does anyone have a cleaner for the bronze thru hulls? They seem to be rather 
corroded.

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Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 14:19:46 -0700
From: Dan Utinske 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Selling 26' C&C Washington State
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Unfortunately I suffered a heart attack @ 2.5 years ago and haven?t had the 
time to dedicate to my C&C and I need to part ways with it.  I?m willing to 
part with her and not looking for much in return.  She has a full load of sails 
in very good condition.  She?s not been sailed since the heart attack or had 
much maintenance.  I?ve had the hull cleaned (diver) a few times and her 
topside washed but having difficult finding someone to wash again and she needs 
her hull cleaned again.  She?s a moored vessel at Port of Brownsville Marina, 
Bremerton, WA.  A very nice and very reasonable priced marina, you can see it 
on Google Earth.  She also has a 8HP diesel that hasn?t been started since the 
heart attack.    

I have title in hand and will consider any reasonable offer.  I don?t have a 
trailer for the C&C or she?d be out of the water.  She?s currently moored at 
A-48 and the office is open daily 7 days a week.  I can meet anyone who wants 
to see her. 


Contact: 

Dan Utinske
253-432-0572 Cell


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 14:21:19 -0700
From: Peter Fell 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List LED bulb lumen equivalents
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I have only done a test in my darkened basement, but this seemed to work
very well:
https://victory-products.com/collections/lighting-victory/products/aa00287r
It's far brighter than something like a LED indicator light but nowhere
near the brightness of your typical BA9S LED (and I couldn't find one that

Re: Stus-List was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30

[DANIEL WATTS via CnC-List]

Lisle, unfortunately, I am selling my C&C 33, here is the link if you are 
interested. It has plenty of room for 4 and has a Westerbeke diesel engine with 
less than 500 hours.
Best,
Dan

https://newlondon.craigslist.org/boa/d/cc-33-mk1/6268498171.html


> On September 6, 2017 at 4:40 AM "Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Update: I looked at the C&C25 and although it appeared to be a basically 
> solid boat, it feels a bit too small for a family of 4 and the headroom was a 
> bit low. I'm hearing a lot of "3-foot-itis" stories from sellers I'm speaking 
> with. So the search goes on. I've found an interesting 1987 Pearson 27 that 
> looks promising, here is the link:
> 
> 
> https://rochester.craigslist.org/bod/d/1987-pearson-27-2-sailboat/6281575540.html
> 
> The one issue with the Pearson is that apparently it got struck by 
> another boat on the port bow side that required some repair. 
> 
> Also, I'm going to see a 1987 C&C 30 later today that looks promising. 
> Link here:
> 
> 
> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1987/C%26C-30-3079275/Rochester/NY/United-States#.Wa-z9MiGNPY
> 
> Can someone with a C&C 30' tell me how large the v-birth actually is and 
> share any experience with the idea of a beginner sailor staring with a boat 
> like this?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Lisle
> 
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Stus-List was considering C&C 25, now Pearson 27 or C&C 30

[Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List]

Hi all,

Update: I looked at the C&C25 and although it appeared to be a basically
solid boat, it feels a bit too small for a family of 4 and the headroom was
a bit low. I'm hearing a lot of "3-foot-itis" stories from sellers I'm
speaking with. So the search goes on. I've found an interesting 1987
Pearson 27 that looks promising, here is the link:

https://rochester.craigslist.org/bod/d/1987-pearson-27-2-sailboat/6281575540.html

The one issue with the Pearson is that apparently it got struck by another
boat on the port bow side that required some repair.

Also, I'm going to see a 1987 C&C 30 later today that looks promising. Link
here:

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1987/C%26C-30-3079275/Rochester/NY/United-States#.Wa-z9MiGNPY

Can someone with a C&C 30' tell me how large the v-birth actually is and
share any experience with the idea of a beginner sailor staring with a boat
like this?

thanks,

Lisle
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