Stus-List Hard paint vs. ablative and a handle

[Kyle Davis via CnC-List]

Thank you all for your advice. I realiz that there isn’t a solid right
answer. I chat with a Petit marine service place at Swantown in Olympia
today. I guess ablative seems to be my best option for now.

My new phone sue is finding a crank handle for my SVE8 engine.

Thanks in advance,
(How’s this?)

Kyle Davis
s/v Killer D C 26
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Stus-List C 40-2 Survey

[Doug Allardyce via CnC-List]

I'm trying to make a list of the remaining C 40-2's that are still on the
great lakes. If anyone is aware of one, please send me any info you might
have. Thanks

Doug Allardyce
_/)~~~_/) 

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Re: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I wrapped Touche's mast and collar with the self-fusing tape about 8-10
years ago.  Squeezed some LifeSeal into the slot to seal it.  Absolutely NO
leak since.  Not a drop.

Picture here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_sb5TfIENvsLWVfd0kyMlRoWXc/view?usp=drivesdk

Does take a bit of technique and patience but worth it.

I bought the gray tape off eBay.  Think it may have been 1.5 inch wide.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Nov 13, 2017 2:26 PM, "Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I was wondering if some of you may have some insights regarding mast boot
> tape.  We have had a slight leak around the base of the mast since we
> bought the boat in February.  I pulled off a mass of old tape which was
> peeling anyway, and applied Rubbaweld Mast Boot Tape with somewhat marginal
> success (it was my first attempt). In that since I was doing the job single
> handed, I had to start by taping the end of the tape to the mast with duct
> tape to hold it while I pulled it tight.  I also found it was kind of a
> pain to have to pull off liner from the tape surface simultaneously while
> pulling on the tape hard enough to activate the adhesive and get it to
> bind.  It was also pretty difficult to get a good span from the base of the
> mast deck entrance to the mast itself, and I had difficulty getting the
> tape to fuse into a nice tight end.  In the end, the stuff appears to be
> about the same as what came off, which looked perpetually dirty.
>
> I understand this is mostly an issue of user error, but It seems to me
> there must be a better solution.
>
> For example, anyone ever try white shrinkwrap tape?  It would seem ideal -
> waterproof, sticks to boat hulls well, doesn't leave sticky residue, is UV
> resistant, and would stay much cleaner.
>
> Any other solutions?
>
> Bruce Whitmore
>
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>
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Re: Stus-List Pfd

[Leslie Paal via CnC-List]

I got two of these, but not impressed.  The design (or manufacturing) has a 
couple issues.
- the "rip" zipper seems to me installed backward.  To check the bobbin you 
have to undo the whole zipper because the slider is on the wrong end.
- the manual activation cord has a very good chance to get caught on things and 
surprise the wearer.  My other west have the activator protected from 
accidental pull.

I suppose you get what you pay for.  I'm still think it was an OK buy, just not 
so grand.

Leslie.
and yes the bobbins have 2015 date.


On Fri, 11/10/17, Mike Brannon via CnC-List  wrote:

 Subject: Re: Stus-List Pfd
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Cc: "Mike Brannon" 
 Date: Friday, November 10, 2017, 9:57 AM
 
 If you ordered these PFDs be sure to check
 the bobbins.   Mine arrived with bobbins that expired
 in 2015.
 
 Mike
 Virginia LEE 93295
 Virginia Beach, VA
 
 Sent from my iPad Mini
 
 > On Nov 2, 2017, at 06:58, Lisle
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 > 
 > You need to use the coupon code, I
 did and it worked, thanks Joel!!
 > 
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Re: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

[David via CnC-List]

My boatyard used roofing tape.  Silicone seal the sail track at the tape and 
your good to go.  And its cheap too.


David F. Risch

(401) 419-4650 (cell)



From: CnC-List  on behalf of Bruce Whitmore via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:35 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bruce Whitmore
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

Agreed as to sealing the slot, but the nice thing is on ours that the spar 
manufacturer thoughtfully filled the slot below the boom vang attachment, so it 
makes for a nice smooth penetration through the deck.

Still wondering about better tape options, though...

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net



From: Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" ; "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 

Cc: Neil Andersen 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

Also don’t forget that if you are keel stepped AND have a mast slot for slugs 
on your mainsail luff.  Darn near impossible to seal that channel with just the 
boot tape.

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661

From: CnC-List  on behalf of Matthew L. Wolford 
via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:13:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

Under “other solutions,” I use a Spartite plug at the partners which, in 
addition to holding the mast in place, also keeps water out.

From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:25 PM
To: C List
Cc: Bruce Whitmore
Subject: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

Hello all,

I was wondering if some of you may have some insights regarding mast boot tape. 
 We have had a slight leak around the base of the mast since we bought the boat 
in February.  I pulled off a mass of old tape which was peeling anyway, and 
applied Rubbaweld Mast Boot Tape with somewhat marginal success (it was my 
first attempt). In that since I was doing the job single handed, I had to start 
by taping the end of the tape to the mast with duct tape to hold it while I 
pulled it tight.  I also found it was kind of a pain to have to pull off liner 
from the tape surface simultaneously while pulling on the tape hard enough to 
activate the adhesive and get it to bind.  It was also pretty difficult to get 
a good span from the base of the mast deck entrance to the mast itself, and I 
had difficulty getting the tape to fuse into a nice tight end.  In the end, the 
stuff appears to be about the same as what came off, which looked perpetually 
dirty.

I understand this is mostly an issue of user error, but It seems to me there 
must be a better solution.

For example, anyone ever try white shrinkwrap tape?  It would seem ideal - 
waterproof, sticks to boat hulls well, doesn't leave sticky residue, is UV 
resistant, and would stay much cleaner.

Any other solutions?

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net

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Re: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

[William via CnC-List]

m>
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List A-4
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Randy,
>> 
>> the engine has some value.  Without knowing it's condition, you could
>> probably get a few  hundred for it from someone wanting a spare and the
>> motivation to rebuild it.  I'm sure Moyer marine would love to have it but
>> they'd probably not offer much more than to pay for shipping to take it off
>> your hands.
>> 
>> You could head over the Moyer marine forums and get better info from that
>> group.
>> 
>> http://www.moyermarine.com/forums/index.php
>> 
>> Danny
>> 
>> On 11/13/2017 10:59 AM, randy via CnC-List wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings All, a friend is settling a family estate of a sailor.  Friend
>> and family know nothing about sailboats.  Boat has an older Yanmar 2GM
>> installed sometime in last seven years, and the original A-4 is at the
>> house.  From outside it is in much better condition than expected, but no
>> one has any idea of inside.  Any suggestions on value and/or getting the
>> word out?  Motor is located in Portland, OR, and neither Portland or
>> Seattle craigslist have much to offer.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> TIA,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> randy
>> 
>> Tamanawas
>> 
>> 29-II
>> 
>> Hood River, OR
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> From: "Matthew L. Wolford" <wolf...@erie.net>
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape
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> Under ?other solutions,? I use a Spartite plug at the partners which, in 
> addition to holding the mast in place, also keeps water out.
> 
> From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:25 PM
> To: C List 
> Cc: Bruce Whitmore 
> Subject: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I was wondering if some of you may have some insights regarding mast boot 
> tape.  We have had a slight leak around the base of the mast since we bought 
> the boat in February.  I pulled off a mass of old tape which was peeling 
> anyway, and applied Rubbaweld Mast Boot Tape with somewhat marginal success 
> (it was my first attempt). In that since I was doing the job single handed, I 
> had to start by taping the end of the tape to the mast with duct tape to hold 
> it while I pulled it tight.  I also found it was kind of a pain to have to 
> pull off liner from the tape surface simultaneously while pulling on the tape 
> hard enough to activate the adhesive and get it to bind.  It was also pretty 
> difficult to get a good span from the base of the mast deck entrance to the 
> mast itself, and I had difficulty getting the tape to fuse into a nice tight 
> end.  In the end, the stuff appears to be about the same as what came off, 
> which looked perpetually dirty.  
> 
> 
> I understand this is mostly an issue of user error, but It seems to me there 
> must be a better solution.
> 
> For example, anyone ever try white shrinkwrap tape?  It would seem ideal - 
> waterproof, sticks to boat hulls well, doesn't leave sticky residue, is UV 
> resistant, and would stay much cleaner. 
> 
> 
> Any other solutions?  
> 
> 
> Bruce Whitmore
> 
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sb

Re: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Agreed as to sealing the slot, but the nice thing is on ours that the spar 
manufacturer thoughtfully filled the slot below the boom vang attachment, so it 
makes for a nice smooth penetration through the deck.  

Still wondering about better tape options, though...
 Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net


  From: Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
 To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" ; "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
 
Cc: Neil Andersen 
 Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:22 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape
   
Also don’t forget that if you are keel stepped AND have a mast slot for slugs 
on your mainsail luff.  Darn near impossible to seal that channel with just the 
boot tape. 
Neil Andersen20691 Jamieson RdRock Hall, MD 21661From: CnC-List 
 on behalf of Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 

Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:13:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape Under “other solutions,” I use a Spartite 
plug at the partners which, in addition to holding the mast in place, also 
keeps water out. From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List Sent: Monday, November 13, 
2017 2:25 PMTo: C List Cc: Bruce Whitmore Subject: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape 
Hello all, I was wondering if some of you may have some insights regarding mast 
boot tape.  We have had a slight leak around the base of the mast since we 
bought the boat in February.  I pulled off a mass of old tape which was peeling 
anyway, and applied Rubbaweld Mast Boot Tape with somewhat marginal success (it 
was my first attempt). In that since I was doing the job single handed, I had 
to start by taping the end of the tape to the mast with duct tape to hold it 
while I pulled it tight.  I also found it was kind of a pain to have to pull 
off liner from the tape surface simultaneously while pulling on the tape hard 
enough to activate the adhesive and get it to bind.  It was also pretty 
difficult to get a good span from the base of the mast deck entrance to the 
mast itself, and I had difficulty getting the tape to fuse into a nice tight 
end.  In the end, the stuff appears to be about the same as what came off, 
which looked perpetually dirty. 
 I understand this is mostly an issue of user error, but It seems to me there 
must be a better solution. For example, anyone ever try white shrinkwrap tape?  
It would seem ideal - waterproof, sticks to boat hulls well, doesn't leave 
sticky residue, is UV resistant, and would stay much cleaner.
 Any other solutions?  
 Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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Re: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

I am using white shrinkwrap tape. It has one problem, it gets brittle and can 
crack or pull loose. I end up adding some in the middle of each season to keep 
good coverage. Not difficult, as I bought a roll which may last me forever.

 

Gary

30-1 in Maryland – maybe it is the heat

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruce 
Whitmore via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:26 PM
To: C List 
Cc: Bruce Whitmore 
Subject: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

 

Hello all,

 

I was wondering if some of you may have some insights regarding mast boot tape. 
 We have had a slight leak around the base of the mast since we bought the boat 
in February.  I pulled off a mass of old tape which was peeling anyway, and 
applied Rubbaweld Mast Boot Tape with somewhat marginal success (it was my 
first attempt). In that since I was doing the job single handed, I had to start 
by taping the end of the tape to the mast with duct tape to hold it while I 
pulled it tight.  I also found it was kind of a pain to have to pull off liner 
from the tape surface simultaneously while pulling on the tape hard enough to 
activate the adhesive and get it to bind.  It was also pretty difficult to get 
a good span from the base of the mast deck entrance to the mast itself, and I 
had difficulty getting the tape to fuse into a nice tight end.  In the end, the 
stuff appears to be about the same as what came off, which looked perpetually 
dirty.  

 

I understand this is mostly an issue of user error, but It seems to me there 
must be a better solution.

 

For example, anyone ever try white shrinkwrap tape?  It would seem ideal - 
waterproof, sticks to boat hulls well, doesn't leave sticky residue, is UV 
resistant, and would stay much cleaner. 

 

Any other solutions?  

 

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net  

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Re: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

[John Russo via CnC-List]

Try using the sail stop fixed above the cover if you cover the boat and
stuff some putty type material at an angle above the sail stop to catch and
pitch water out of the slot.

 

John Russo

Arpeggio C 32 1984

Norwalk, CT

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Neil
Andersen via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:21 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Neil Andersen
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

 

Also don't forget that if you are keel stepped AND have a mast slot for
slugs on your mainsail luff.  Darn near impossible to seal that channel with
just the boot tape. 

 

Neil Andersen

20691 Jamieson Rd

Rock Hall, MD 21661

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From: CnC-List  on behalf of Matthew L.
Wolford via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:13:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape 

 

Under "other solutions," I use a Spartite plug at the partners which, in
addition to holding the mast in place, also keeps water out.

 

From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List   

Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:25 PM

To: C   List 

Cc: Bruce Whitmore   

Subject: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

 

Hello all,

 

I was wondering if some of you may have some insights regarding mast boot
tape.  We have had a slight leak around the base of the mast since we bought
the boat in February.  I pulled off a mass of old tape which was peeling
anyway, and applied Rubbaweld Mast Boot Tape with somewhat marginal success
(it was my first attempt). In that since I was doing the job single handed,
I had to start by taping the end of the tape to the mast with duct tape to
hold it while I pulled it tight.  I also found it was kind of a pain to have
to pull off liner from the tape surface simultaneously while pulling on the
tape hard enough to activate the adhesive and get it to bind.  It was also
pretty difficult to get a good span from the base of the mast deck entrance
to the mast itself, and I had difficulty getting the tape to fuse into a
nice tight end.  In the end, the stuff appears to be about the same as what
came off, which looked perpetually dirty.  

 

I understand this is mostly an issue of user error, but It seems to me there
must be a better solution.

 

For example, anyone ever try white shrinkwrap tape?  It would seem ideal -
waterproof, sticks to boat hulls well, doesn't leave sticky residue, is UV
resistant, and would stay much cleaner. 

 

Any other solutions?  

 

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net

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Re: Stus-List A-4

[David via CnC-List]

Steve I maybe interested in your a4.
I’m near Midland and would like to rebuild a spare for my boat

Dave
higgs...@hotmail.com
Zeilboot
30mk1 407

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On Nov 13, 2017, at 3:13 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
> wrote:

I paid $300 CND for an unknown condition A4 - it was not seized and I was 
planning on a rebuild. I don't have a boat anymore, but still have the motor 
and some parts I purchased for it. I'm hoping to sell it with the parts for the 
$300 I paid for the motor alone.

FWIW

Steve
Boatless in Mono, ON Canada

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Re: Stus-List Hard paint vs. ablative

[David Kaseler via CnC-List]

Kyle,
Bottom paint is a funny thing. Different paints seem to do better in different 
areas. If you are talking about the other Washington, Pettit Trinidad SR has 
worked great for us in central Puget Sound. The bad thing about hard bottom 
paint is that after awhile you end up with a build up of too many layers and 
you have to remove it all and start over. Very difficult and messy job. The 
ablative paints ware off as you clean them and you end up with no build up.
As with most things, there isn't just one current answer.
Good luck,
Dave.
SLY
1975 C ss

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 13, 2017, at 10:51 AM, svpegasus38 via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Congrats on the new boat. In Washington you cannot clean ablative paint. I 
> only use ablative paint. Although the racer friends use hard paint. A good 
> friend swears by petit Trinidad hard paint. I have used micron 66, blue water 
> copper shield both with excellent results. 
> Practical sailor has done several reviews on both types bottom paint. What I 
> like about the ablative paints is you don't need to clean the bottom if you 
> use your boat. 
> Another consideration is what is currently on it. You can put ablative over 
> hard paint but not hard over ablative. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> Doug Mountjoy 
> POYC 
> Pegasus (sale pending) 
> Lf38 
> Rebecca Leah 
> LF39 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Kyle Davis via CnC-List 
> Date: 11/13/17 09:50 (GMT-08:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Kyle Davis 
> Subject: Stus-List Hard paint vs. ablative
> 
> Greetings all,
> New owner of C 26. My diver says I need new paint for sure. I’ve never 
> dealt with bottom paint before. I live in Washington, where the environmental 
> restrictions are extensive. Looking for guidance on the best paint. I read, 
> quite a few years ago, about hard and ablative. Based on that, I think I’m 
> leaning toward hard but all input is welcome.
> 
> Tentatively calling the boat Killian. It’s never been named and My first 
> grandson is named Killian.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kyle Davis
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Re: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

Another solution--years ago I used a mast boot that had adhesive around the 
edges (maybe only the ends) of the ~ 8" wide soft white
plastic/rubber strip. Don't recall the vendor. 


Either per the instructions that came with it (or not--too many years ago!), I 
used LARGE SS hose clamps to secure the top and bottom to the mast and deck 
'partner' the mast goes through (and to which all the halyard, etc. blocks are 
attached). It is still holding AFAIK and is still more or less white and 
flexible. 


Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
1995 C 36 XL/kcb


cenel...@aol.com




-Original Message-
From: Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford 
Sent: Mon, Nov 13, 2017 3:14 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape




Under “other solutions,” I use a Spartite plug at the partners which, in 
addition to holding the mast in place, also keeps water out.

 

From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:25 PM
To: C List 
Cc: Bruce Whitmore 
Subject: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

 


Hello all,
 
I was wondering if some of you may have some insights regarding mast boot tape. 
 We have had a slight leak around the base of the mast since we bought the boat 
in February.  I pulled off a mass of old tape which was peeling anyway, and 
applied Rubbaweld Mast Boot Tape with somewhat marginal success (it was my 
first attempt). In that since I was doing the job single handed, I had to start 
by taping the end of the tape to the mast with duct tape to hold it while I 
pulled it tight.  I also found it was kind of a pain to have to pull off liner 
from the tape surface simultaneously while pulling on the tape hard enough to 
activate the adhesive and get it to bind.  It was also pretty difficult to get 
a good span from the base of the mast deck entrance to the mast itself, and I 
had difficulty getting the tape to fuse into a nice tight end.  In the end, the 
stuff appears to be about the same as what came off, which looked perpetually 
dirty.  

 
I understand this is mostly an issue of user error, but It seems to me there 
must be a better solution.
 
For example, anyone ever try white shrinkwrap tape?  It would seem ideal - 
waterproof, sticks to boat hulls well, doesn't leave sticky residue, is UV 
resistant, and would stay much cleaner. 

 
Any other solutions?  

 
Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net



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Re: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

Also don’t forget that if you are keel stepped AND have a mast slot for slugs 
on your mainsail luff.  Darn near impossible to seal that channel with just the 
boot tape.

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661

From: CnC-List  on behalf of Matthew L. Wolford 
via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:13:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

Under “other solutions,” I use a Spartite plug at the partners which, in 
addition to holding the mast in place, also keeps water out.

From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:25 PM
To: C List
Cc: Bruce Whitmore
Subject: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

Hello all,

I was wondering if some of you may have some insights regarding mast boot tape. 
 We have had a slight leak around the base of the mast since we bought the boat 
in February.  I pulled off a mass of old tape which was peeling anyway, and 
applied Rubbaweld Mast Boot Tape with somewhat marginal success (it was my 
first attempt). In that since I was doing the job single handed, I had to start 
by taping the end of the tape to the mast with duct tape to hold it while I 
pulled it tight.  I also found it was kind of a pain to have to pull off liner 
from the tape surface simultaneously while pulling on the tape hard enough to 
activate the adhesive and get it to bind.  It was also pretty difficult to get 
a good span from the base of the mast deck entrance to the mast itself, and I 
had difficulty getting the tape to fuse into a nice tight end.  In the end, the 
stuff appears to be about the same as what came off, which looked perpetually 
dirty.

I understand this is mostly an issue of user error, but It seems to me there 
must be a better solution.

For example, anyone ever try white shrinkwrap tape?  It would seem ideal - 
waterproof, sticks to boat hulls well, doesn't leave sticky residue, is UV 
resistant, and would stay much cleaner.

Any other solutions?

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net


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Re: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Under “other solutions,” I use a Spartite plug at the partners which, in 
addition to holding the mast in place, also keeps water out.

From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:25 PM
To: C List 
Cc: Bruce Whitmore 
Subject: Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

Hello all,

I was wondering if some of you may have some insights regarding mast boot tape. 
 We have had a slight leak around the base of the mast since we bought the boat 
in February.  I pulled off a mass of old tape which was peeling anyway, and 
applied Rubbaweld Mast Boot Tape with somewhat marginal success (it was my 
first attempt). In that since I was doing the job single handed, I had to start 
by taping the end of the tape to the mast with duct tape to hold it while I 
pulled it tight.  I also found it was kind of a pain to have to pull off liner 
from the tape surface simultaneously while pulling on the tape hard enough to 
activate the adhesive and get it to bind.  It was also pretty difficult to get 
a good span from the base of the mast deck entrance to the mast itself, and I 
had difficulty getting the tape to fuse into a nice tight end.  In the end, the 
stuff appears to be about the same as what came off, which looked perpetually 
dirty.  


I understand this is mostly an issue of user error, but It seems to me there 
must be a better solution.

For example, anyone ever try white shrinkwrap tape?  It would seem ideal - 
waterproof, sticks to boat hulls well, doesn't leave sticky residue, is UV 
resistant, and would stay much cleaner. 


Any other solutions?  


Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net




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Re: Stus-List A-4

[Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List]

I paid $300 CND for an unknown condition A4 - it was not seized and I was
planning on a rebuild. I don't have a boat anymore, but still have the
motor and some parts I purchased for it. I'm hoping to sell it with the
parts for the $300 I paid for the motor alone.

FWIW

Steve
Boatless in Mono, ON Canada


On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:31 PM, David Kaseler via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Randy,
> I live in Seattle and have been dealing with Moyer Marine for many years
> and the long distance relationship has not been an issue. I have purchased
> two A4's from them (one was a short block and the other a rebuild) and
> returned two core engines. I very much believe in these guys and I would
> suggest you call Don and ask him if he's interested and what arrangements
> can be made.
> Good luck,
> Dave.
> SLY C 33
> 1975
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:09 AM, randy via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Danny, and that was my suggestion to them as well.  Am hoping to
> offer them something in lieu of east coast!
>
>
>
>
>
> randy
>
> Tamanawas
>
> 29-II
>
> Hood River, OR
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Danny Haughey via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, November 13, 2017 8:31 AM
> *To:* randy via CnC-List 
> *Cc:* Danny Haughey 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List A-4
>
>
>
> Hi Randy,
>
> the engine has some value.  Without knowing it's condition, you could
> probably get a few  hundred for it from someone wanting a spare and the
> motivation to rebuild it.  I'm sure Moyer marine would love to have it but
> they'd probably not offer much more than to pay for shipping to take it off
> your hands.
>
> You could head over the Moyer marine forums and get better info from that
> group.
>
> http://www.moyermarine.com/forums/index.php
>
> Danny
>
> On 11/13/2017 10:59 AM, randy via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Greetings All, a friend is settling a family estate of a sailor.  Friend
> and family know nothing about sailboats.  Boat has an older Yanmar 2GM
> installed sometime in last seven years, and the original A-4 is at the
> house.  From outside it is in much better condition than expected, but no
> one has any idea of inside.  Any suggestions on value and/or getting the
> word out?  Motor is located in Portland, OR, and neither Portland or
> Seattle craigslist have much to offer.
>
>
>
> TIA,
>
>
>
> randy
>
> Tamanawas
>
> 29-II
>
> Hood River, OR
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Mast Boot Tape

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hello all,
I was wondering if some of you may have some insights regarding mast boot tape. 
 We have had a slight leak around the base of the mast since we bought the boat 
in February.  I pulled off a mass of old tape which was peeling anyway, and 
applied Rubbaweld Mast Boot Tape with somewhat marginal success (it was my 
first attempt). In that since I was doing the job single handed, I had to start 
by taping the end of the tape to the mast with duct tape to hold it while I 
pulled it tight.  I also found it was kind of a pain to have to pull off liner 
from the tape surface simultaneously while pulling on the tape hard enough to 
activate the adhesive and get it to bind.  It was also pretty difficult to get 
a good span from the base of the mast deck entrance to the mast itself, and I 
had difficulty getting the tape to fuse into a nice tight end.  In the end, the 
stuff appears to be about the same as what came off, which looked perpetually 
dirty.  

I understand this is mostly an issue of user error, but It seems to me there 
must be a better solution.
For example, anyone ever try white shrinkwrap tape?  It would seem ideal - 
waterproof, sticks to boat hulls well, doesn't leave sticky residue, is UV 
resistant, and would stay much cleaner. 

Any other solutions?  
 Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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Re: Stus-List Hard paint vs. ablative

[svpegasus38 via CnC-List]

Congrats on the new boat. In Washington you cannot clean ablative paint. I only 
use ablative paint. Although the racer friends use hard paint. A good friend 
swears by petit Trinidad hard paint. I have used micron 66, blue water copper 
shield both with excellent results. Practical sailor has done several reviews 
on both types bottom paint. What I like about the ablative paints is you don't 
need to clean the bottom if you use your boat. Another consideration is what is 
currently on it. You can put ablative over hard paint but not hard over 
ablative. 


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE DeviceDoug Mountjoy POYC Pegasus (sale pending) 
Lf38 Rebecca Leah LF39 
 Original message From: Kyle Davis via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/13/17  09:50  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Kyle Davis  Subject: 
Stus-List Hard paint vs. ablative 
Greetings all,New owner of C 26. My diver says I need new paint for sure. 
I’ve never dealt with bottom paint before. I live in Washington, where the 
environmental restrictions are extensive. Looking for guidance on the best 
paint. I read, quite a few years ago, about hard and ablative. Based on that, I 
think I’m leaning toward hard but all input is welcome.
Tentatively calling the boat Killian. It’s never been named and My first 
grandson is named Killian.
Thanks,Kyle Davis
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Re: Stus-List Hard paint vs. ablative

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Kyle,

Congrats!  Talk to your diver - he/she might not be permitted to clean
ablative paint!

Joel


Virus-free.
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On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Kyle Davis via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Greetings all,
> New owner of C 26. My diver says I need new paint for sure. I’ve never
> dealt with bottom paint before. I live in Washington, where the
> environmental restrictions are extensive. Looking for guidance on the best
> paint. I read, quite a few years ago, about hard and ablative. Based on
> that, I think I’m leaning toward hard but all input is welcome.
>
> Tentatively calling the boat Killian. It’s never been named and My first
> grandson is named Killian.
>
> Thanks,
> Kyle Davis
>
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Re: Stus-List A-4

[David Kaseler via CnC-List]

Randy,
I live in Seattle and have been dealing with Moyer Marine for many years and 
the long distance relationship has not been an issue. I have purchased two A4's 
from them (one was a short block and the other a rebuild) and returned two core 
engines. I very much believe in these guys and I would suggest you call Don and 
ask him if he's interested and what arrangements can be made.
Good luck,
Dave.
SLY C 33
1975

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:09 AM, randy via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Danny, and that was my suggestion to them as well.  Am hoping to offer 
> them something in lieu of east coast!
>  
>  
> randy
> Tamanawas
> 29-II
> Hood River, OR
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny 
> Haughey via CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:31 AM
> To: randy via CnC-List 
> Cc: Danny Haughey 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List A-4
>  
> Hi Randy,
> 
> the engine has some value.  Without knowing it's condition, you could 
> probably get a few  hundred for it from someone wanting a spare and the 
> motivation to rebuild it.  I'm sure Moyer marine would love to have it but 
> they'd probably not offer much more than to pay for shipping to take it off 
> your hands.
> 
> You could head over the Moyer marine forums and get better info from that 
> group.
> 
> http://www.moyermarine.com/forums/index.php
> 
> Danny
> 
> 
> On 11/13/2017 10:59 AM, randy via CnC-List wrote:
> Greetings All, a friend is settling a family estate of a sailor.  Friend and 
> family know nothing about sailboats.  Boat has an older Yanmar 2GM installed 
> sometime in last seven years, and the original A-4 is at the house.  From 
> outside it is in much better condition than expected, but no one has any idea 
> of inside.  Any suggestions on value and/or getting the word out?  Motor is 
> located in Portland, OR, and neither Portland or Seattle craigslist have much 
> to offer.
>  
> TIA,
>  
> randy
> Tamanawas
> 29-II
> Hood River, OR
>  
>  
> 
> 
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Stus-List Hard paint vs. ablative

[Kyle Davis via CnC-List]

Greetings all,
New owner of C 26. My diver says I need new paint for sure. I’ve never
dealt with bottom paint before. I live in Washington, where the
environmental restrictions are extensive. Looking for guidance on the best
paint. I read, quite a few years ago, about hard and ablative. Based on
that, I think I’m leaning toward hard but all input is welcome.

Tentatively calling the boat Killian. It’s never been named and My first
grandson is named Killian.

Thanks,
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Re: Stus-List A-4

[randy via CnC-List]

Thanks Danny, and that was my suggestion to them as well.  Am hoping to
offer them something in lieu of east coast!

 

 

randy

Tamanawas

29-II

Hood River, OR

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny
Haughey via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:31 AM
To: randy via CnC-List 
Cc: Danny Haughey 
Subject: Re: Stus-List A-4

 

Hi Randy,

the engine has some value.  Without knowing it's condition, you could
probably get a few  hundred for it from someone wanting a spare and the
motivation to rebuild it.  I'm sure Moyer marine would love to have it but
they'd probably not offer much more than to pay for shipping to take it off
your hands.

You could head over the Moyer marine forums and get better info from that
group.

http://www.moyermarine.com/forums/index.php

Danny



On 11/13/2017 10:59 AM, randy via CnC-List wrote:

Greetings All, a friend is settling a family estate of a sailor.  Friend and
family know nothing about sailboats.  Boat has an older Yanmar 2GM installed
sometime in last seven years, and the original A-4 is at the house.  From
outside it is in much better condition than expected, but no one has any
idea of inside.  Any suggestions on value and/or getting the word out?
Motor is located in Portland, OR, and neither Portland or Seattle craigslist
have much to offer.

 

TIA,

 

randy

Tamanawas

29-II

Hood River, OR

 

 






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[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hi Randy,

the engine has some value.  Without knowing it's condition, you could 
probably get a few  hundred for it from someone wanting a spare and the 
motivation to rebuild it.  I'm sure Moyer marine would love to have it 
but they'd probably not offer much more than to pay for shipping to take 
it off your hands.


You could head over the Moyer marine forums and get better info from 
that group.


http://www.moyermarine.com/forums/index.php

Danny


On 11/13/2017 10:59 AM, randy via CnC-List wrote:


Greetings All, a friend is settling a family estate of a sailor.  
Friend and family know nothing about sailboats.  Boat has an older 
Yanmar 2GM installed sometime in last seven years, and the original 
A-4 is at the house.  From outside it is in much better condition than 
expected, but no one has any idea of inside.  Any suggestions on value 
and/or getting the word out?  Motor is located in Portland, OR, and 
neither Portland or Seattle craigslist have much to offer.


TIA,

randy

Tamanawas

29-II

Hood River, OR



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Stus-List A-4

[randy via CnC-List]

Greetings All, a friend is settling a family estate of a sailor.  Friend and
family know nothing about sailboats.  Boat has an older Yanmar 2GM installed
sometime in last seven years, and the original A-4 is at the house.  From
outside it is in much better condition than expected, but no one has any
idea of inside.  Any suggestions on value and/or getting the word out?
Motor is located in Portland, OR, and neither Portland or Seattle craigslist
have much to offer.

 

TIA,

 

randy

Tamanawas

29-II

Hood River, OR

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Diesel tank hoses

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Being on an island, I can get marine fuel hose at the auto store no problem. I 
was worried someone was going to wander into Pep Boys and walk out with 
whatever cheap stuff they handed out when asked for fuel hose.
* thread creep alert, that cheap auto fuel hose is likely way better than 
official marine hose for your dinghy! I had an issue where the inside lining of 
the dinghy fuel line dissolved into a big blob of goo ☹


Joe Della Barba
Coquina


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass 
via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 2:20 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass
Subject: Re: Stus-List Diesel tank hoses

The blue Parker Hannifin fuel hose is Parker 221FR, which is the fire resistant 
hose meeting SAE j1942 required on commercial vessels.
Parker also offers a black cover hose which is Parker 500, and that meets USCG 
A1 and A2 standards, SAE J1527, required for construction of recreational 
vessels.

Again, fuel hose from a large, non-marine manufacturer that is available 
through most places that offer automotive or hydraulic hoses. (See my earlier 
posts)

Rick Brass
Washington, NC



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of coltrek via 
CnC-List
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 12:54 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: coltrek >
Subject: Re: Stus-List Diesel tank hoses

I have a roll of quarter inch fuel hose from Parker Hannifin, that says u.s. 
Coast Guard approved. It is blue . And Joe is right, it is very thick and 
heavy. You could use it as a backstay on a 50-footer. It has braided stainless 
steel spring wire in it, and it is a royal bitch to cut, even with a bandsaw. 
If my boat caught on fire, that would be the last thing left.



Regards,

Bill Coleman
C 39


 Original message 
From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
>
Date: 11/9/17 11:38 (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" >
Subject: Re: Stus-List Diesel tank hoses
Non-marine hose may well work to keep fuel inside of itself, but auto hose in 
general isn’t even close to the fire resistance of marine hose. Airplane hoses 
have fire-sleeves over them and marine hose is about 3-4 times as thick as it 
needs to be so there is a lot of rubber to burn away before it would have a 
hole in it. Auto hose has neither.

Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 11:36 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass >
Subject: Re: Stus-List Diesel tank hoses

Well, you should be using only SAE fuel hose. And the specs are the same 
regardless of the manufacturer. So use whatever is less expensive.

You might even get a price on hose – probably Gates Rubber – from your local 
NAPA store. Since it’s not “Boat Hose” it’s probably significantly less than 
either WM or Defender.

Rick Brass
Washington, NC



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John and 
Maryann Read via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 9:23 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: John and Maryann Read >
Subject: Stus-List Diesel tank hoses

Removed my OEM aluminum diesel tank now 35 years old.  Exterior looks great but 
interior shows a number of corrosion issues.  Had to remove fittings and saw 
off the inlet fitting to get the tank out of the locker so was committed when I 
did that to getting a new tank.  That said, the hidden corrosion on the 
interior tells me an incident was in the making so replacing now is a good idea.

Have replacement aluminum tank made by Luther’s in Bristol RI who by all 
accounts are the “go to” source for a tank made right in all respects.  Not the 
least expensive by any stretch but by far the best value or so they say ☺

Question is replacing the hoses.  West carries the Shields brand, Defender the 
Trident at a cost differential of some 20% less in price.  Specifications are 
essentially identical.  Any reason to not embrace the lower price??

John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C 34
Noank, CT

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