Re: Stus-List Espar furnace repairs

[Daniel Cormier via CnC-List]

I need this thing to last all winter so to avoid the risk of creating problems, 
if the power goes out I'll run the engine on the startup cycle just to be safe, 
then crank the furnace up so it doesn't restart after I shut off the engine. 
I'm not winterizing the engine due to the fact that it's located in the main 
cabins and the furnace duct work is doing a really great job of heating it just 
by proximity so I can use it when needed.

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> On Nov 25, 2017, at 1:32 AM, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm glad I'm not alone. I took mine apart a couple of years ago and cleaned 
> it out. Cleaning the glow plug got me a couple of years of starting from 
> battery power alone, but it's back to crawling out to start the motor now. 
> 
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
> 
>> On 24 November 2017 at 20:19, William Walker via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Thanks, that's what I do too.
>> Bill
>> 
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>> On Friday, November 24, 2017 billbruce--- via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Mine does the same...it's my practice to start the engine, than the furnace, 
>> than shut the engine off after a bit. The Heater draws a lot of power on the 
>> start cycle and unless you have a large house bank, it will under power and 
>> fail to light off. 
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Re: Stus-List Espar furnace repairs

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

I'm glad I'm not alone. I took mine apart a couple of years ago and cleaned
it out. Cleaning the glow plug got me a couple of years of starting from
battery power alone, but it's back to crawling out to start the motor now.


Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 24 November 2017 at 20:19, William Walker via CnC-List <
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> Thanks, that's what I do too.
> Bill
>
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> On Friday, November 24, 2017 billbruce--- via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Mine does the same...it's my practice to start the engine, than the
> furnace, than shut the engine off after a bit. The Heater draws a lot of
> power on the start cycle and unless you have a large house bank, it will
> under power and fail to light off.
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Re: Stus-List Espar furnace repairs

[William Walker via CnC-List]

Thanks, that's what I do too.
Bill

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wrote:

Mine does the same...it's my practice to start the engine, than the furnace, 
than shut the engine off after a bit. The Heater draws a lot of power on the 
start cycle and unless you have a large house bank, it will under power and 
fail to light off.  

  

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Re: Stus-List Espar furnace repairs

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   Mine does the same...it's my practice to start the engine, than the furnace, than shut the engine off after a bit. The Heater draws a lot of power on the start cycle and unless you have a large house bank, it will under power and fail to light off. 
   
  
    
  
 


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Re: Stus-List asymmetrical furling

[Bruno Lachance via CnC-List]

Hi Bill,

I am with Mike on this one. I have a 3 ft selden bowsprit on my 33 mkII and a 
Facnor asym furler from 2014 that is used with a 92 square meters running asym. 
We were aware from the beginning this was a compromise, but it allows us to use 
a big asym short handed and I like it!

I have experience the same issues described by Mike. It is easy to use when 
cruising short handed and when you can take the time to have a good even furl 
with no backspin on the torque rope. But for short races, it is slow to furl 
and also easy to make mistakes and then you are in trouble. I would probably 
choose a good sock over a furler if I had to do it again. It is cheaper, faster 
and I don't think that you will have more problems with a sock if handled 
properly.

My rigger says the newer generation of torque rope is better and less prone to 
what I call twist and backspin which leads to what Mike explains with some 
parts of the sail furling and other unfurling... but the torque rope is 
expensive so I have learn to deal with it. We are very careful when fueling, 
especially is the  sail is very loaded.

The sprit is very nice though, 3 sec penalty on my rating.

Maybe the new generation is better. The profurl spinex with the plastic balls 
may be faster. Does anybody has experience with other brands?

Bruno Lachance
Bécassine, 33 mkII
New Richmond, Qc.

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Le 24 nov. 2017 à 13:36, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> a écrit :

Hi Bill

I sailed on a boat with a furling asymmetrical spinnaker.  This system was new 
in 2011.  We had some issues when unfurling.  If it was not furled exactly 
right then somehow one section would be furling while another unfurling.  We 
did sort that out and the next year this was the sail used in cruising class 
Newport to Bermuda.  The kinks were worked out and we had no issues.

One thing with that system is that it took a LONG time to furl in the sail.  
This may make it impractical for races with short legs.

Mike

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Subject: Stus-List asymmetrical furling


I would be interested in hearing others with experience with top down  furlers 
for asym sail.  I frequently race and sail shorthanded and would love to fly my 
asym on occasion.  I have no problem, even single handed when day sailing,  but 
when racing shorthanded transition at a mark rounding between asym and headsail 
is tough.
I am particularly interested in manner of attachment out front of furling genny 
but without addition of sprit and how that may be accomplished.  To have no 
impact on my phrf, tack must attach no more than 12 inches in front of furler.  
The bow casting seems substantial but I am uncertain if drilling through and 
attaching shackle is wise.
Thanks in advance.
Bill Walker
CnC 36
Pentwater Mi
Lake MICHIGAN

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Re: Stus-List Espar furnace repairs

[Daniel Cormier via CnC-List]

I was on shore power the whole time- I haven't tried my furnace otherwise on 
the DC system alone… But transport trucks use these furnaces on 12 V systems... 
at this point I have no need to do that except for power failure situations 
over the winter so I guess it's worth testing... I have three house batteries 
so it might work for me...Will get back to you on this

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> On Nov 24, 2017, at 7:45 PM, William Walker via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> On this subject, my espar won't fire up unless either engine is running or I 
> am connected to shorepower.  It tries, but won't start.  Any ideas?
> Bill Walker 
> CnC 36
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, November 24, 2017 billbruce--- via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the link...very handy for when I might need to do a little 
> tinkering with the furnace. Mine's appears to be working fine right now. 
> 
> Bill Bruce 
> Landfall 38
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Re: Stus-List 30-1 Cunningham

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

Thanks Dennis.  I’ve got the cunningham, just not the purchase.  Mine goes from 
hook in cunningham cringle down to cheek block at mast base, back up to jam 
cleat on mast.  I also use it to reef.

The two other blocks listed in the owner’s manual table I’m sure gave it 4:1 
purchase.  I’m guessing the one with the becket may have been shackled to the 
mast collar, and the other one fastened up near the gooseneck somehow - that’s 
the bit of info I’m missing.

Cheers,
Randy

> On Nov 24, 2017, at 5:53 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Randy,
> 
> You can make your own easily enough.  Touche' uses a couple of small Ronstan 
> fiddle blocks and a cunningham hook.  
> 
> I fastened a padeye at the base of the mast.  I had to add a base under the 
> padeye to stand the block off the mast a bit.  A fiddle block with becket is 
> attached to the padeye via the block's shackle.  Above it is another fiddle 
> block.  Attached to the upper fiddle's  shackle is a length of high tech line 
> with a cunningham/reef hook.  The purchase is 4:1 for easy control.
> 
> The cunningham sheet runs after to a Spinlock Powercleat (older version of a 
> Spinlock PXR cam cleat).
> 
> You can see the lower block on the aft side of the mast here (right side of 
> pic):
> 
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsSlRKb1pDdHdoSW8 
> 
> 
> We also use the cunningham to reef the main.
> 
> I'll be on the boat in a couple days if you want better pics.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> Listers (especially 30-1 owners) -
> 
> The 30-1 owners manual Table 4, “C&C 30 Blocks”, lists one 1750-lb single 
> block, one 1750-lb single block with becket, and one 1200-lb cheek block for 
> cunningham usage.  Grenadine doesn’t have the 1750-lb single blocks for her 
> cunningham; just the cheek block at the starboard base of the mast, and a jam 
> cleat a few feet up from there.  How was the cunningham on a 30-1 originally 
> rigged, does anyone know?
> 
> Thanks,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C&C 30-1 #7
> Ken Caryl, CO
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Re: Stus-List 30-1 Cunningham

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Randy,

You can make your own easily enough.  Touche' uses a couple of small
Ronstan fiddle blocks and a cunningham hook.

I fastened a padeye at the base of the mast.  I had to add a base under the
padeye to stand the block off the mast a bit.  A fiddle block with becket
is attached to the padeye via the block's shackle.  Above it is another
fiddle block.  Attached to the upper fiddle's  shackle is a length of high
tech line with a cunningham/reef hook.  The purchase is 4:1 for easy
control.

The cunningham sheet runs after to a Spinlock Powercleat (older version of
a Spinlock PXR cam cleat).

You can see the lower block on the aft side of the mast here (right side of
pic):

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsSlRKb1pDdHdoSW8

We also use the cunningham to reef the main.

I'll be on the boat in a couple days if you want better pics.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers (especially 30-1 owners) -
>
> The 30-1 owners manual Table 4, “C&C 30 Blocks”, lists one 1750-lb single
> block, one 1750-lb single block with becket, and one 1200-lb cheek block
> for cunningham usage.  Grenadine doesn’t have the 1750-lb single blocks for
> her cunningham; just the cheek block at the starboard base of the mast, and
> a jam cleat a few feet up from there.  How was the cunningham on a 30-1
> originally rigged, does anyone know?
>
> Thanks,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C&C 30-1 #7
> Ken Caryl, CO
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Re: Stus-List Espar furnace repairs

[William Walker via CnC-List]

On this subject, my espar won't fire up unless either engine is running or I am 
connected to shorepower.  It tries, but won't start.  Any ideas?
Bill Walker 
CnC 36

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On Friday, November 24, 2017 billbruce--- via CnC-List  
wrote:

Thanks for the link...very handy for when I might need to do a little tinkering 
with the furnace. Mine's appears to be working fine right now. 

Bill Bruce 
Landfall 38 

  

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Stus-List 30-1 Cunningham

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

Listers (especially 30-1 owners) - 

The 30-1 owners manual Table 4, “C&C 30 Blocks”, lists one 1750-lb single 
block, one 1750-lb single block with becket, and one 1200-lb cheek block for 
cunningham usage.  Grenadine doesn’t have the 1750-lb single blocks for her 
cunningham; just the cheek block at the starboard base of the mast, and a jam 
cleat a few feet up from there.  How was the cunningham on a 30-1 originally 
rigged, does anyone know?

Thanks,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C&C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO
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Re: Stus-List Espar furnace repairs

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   Thanks for the link...very handy for when I might need to do a little tinkering with the furnace. Mine's appears to be working fine right now.
   
   Bill Bruce
   Landfall 38
   
  
    
  
 


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Re: Stus-List asymmetrical furling

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Hi Bill

I sailed on a boat with a furling asymmetrical spinnaker.  This system was new 
in 2011.  We had some issues when unfurling.  If it was not furled exactly 
right then somehow one section would be furling while another unfurling.  We 
did sort that out and the next year this was the sail used in cruising class 
Newport to Bermuda.  The kinks were worked out and we had no issues.

One thing with that system is that it took a LONG time to furl in the sail.  
This may make it impractical for races with short legs.

Mike

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Cc: wwadjo...@aol.com
Subject: Stus-List asymmetrical furling


I would be interested in hearing others with experience with top down  furlers 
for asym sail.  I frequently race and sail shorthanded and would love to fly my 
asym on occasion.  I have no problem, even single handed when day sailing,  but 
when racing shorthanded transition at a mark rounding between asym and headsail 
is tough.
I am particularly interested in manner of attachment out front of furling genny 
but without addition of sprit and how that may be accomplished.  To have no 
impact on my phrf, tack must attach no more than 12 inches in front of furler.  
The bow casting seems substantial but I am uncertain if drilling through and 
attaching shackle is wise.
Thanks in advance.
Bill Walker
CnC 36
Pentwater Mi
Lake MICHIGAN

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Re: Stus-List Looking for a C&C 35 MKI

[Mike Casey via CnC-List]

Thank you. It looks like a beautiful yacht, but oddly enough I am looking
for a MKI. It is tempting though.

I have heard that the MKIII had construction issues where the keel is
attached. Have you heard about that? I would be interested in your comments.

Many thanks,

Mike Casey

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 12:21 PM, David Jacobs via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Mike,
>
> My C&C35 MK3, located in Bristol, RI is available. The listing can be seen
> at
>
> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1984/C%26C-35-MKIII-
> 3131373/Bristol/RI/United-States#.WhhGfs33NOU.email
> 
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Dave J
> Saltaire
> C&C35 MK3
> Bristol, RI
>
>
> On Nov 18, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Mike. There is one at the Miramar Yacht club in Brooklyn, NY that was
> owned by an excellent sailor who was the club champion.  Very fast and good
> condition.  Good price.  Owner Is Irv Shapiro.  Club info is
>
> Tel:  (718) 769 - 3548
> Email: s...@miramaryc.com
> Contact me if you want more information not.  Jerry
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:48 PM, Mike Casey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi folks, it's probably the wrong time of year for this, but if anyone
> knows of a C&C 35 MKI for sale, would you please let me know?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Casey
>
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>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:48 PM, Mike Casey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi folks, it's probably the wrong time of year for this, but if anyone
> knows of a C&C 35 MKI for sale, would you please let me know?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Casey
>
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Re: Stus-List Espar furnace repairs

[William Walker via CnC-List]

Thanks Dan..Mine is running well when put boat away, but may need this in the 
future.
Bill Walker 
CnC 36

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On Friday, November 24, 2017 Dan via CnC-List  wrote:

If anyone is interested in how to re-commission an old espar furnace back into 
service, I posted a full DIY video on it this week with step by step 
instructions. My furnace is circa 1989/1992 era and I was able to get it going 
again after being dormant for 10-15 years mounted near the transom!! It's been 
running flawlessly for 3 weeks now, very happy and warm on board.


Here is the video:

https://youtu.be/H7EKuaQbU5g


Dan Cormier

S/V Breakaweigh (soon to be Balachandra)

1986 C&C44

Halifax, NS

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Stus-List asymmetrical furling

[William Walker via CnC-List]

I would be interested in hearing others with experience with top down  furlers 
for asym sail.  I frequently race and sail shorthanded and would love to fly my 
asym on occasion.  I have no problem, even single handed when day sailing,  but 
when racing shorthanded transition at a mark rounding between asym and headsail 
is tough.
I am particularly interested in manner of attachment out front of furling genny 
but without addition of sprit and how that may be accomplished.  To have no 
impact on my phrf, tack must attach no more than 12 inches in front of furler.  
The bow casting seems substantial but I am uncertain if drilling through and 
attaching shackle is wise.
Thanks in advance.
Bill Walker 
CnC 36
Pentwater Mi
Lake MICHIGAN 

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Stus-List Espar furnace repairs

[Dan via CnC-List]

If anyone is interested in how to re-commission an old espar furnace back
into service, I posted a full DIY video on it this week with step by step
instructions. My furnace is circa 1989/1992 era and I was able to get it
going again after being dormant for 10-15 years mounted near the transom!!
It's been running flawlessly for 3 weeks now, very happy and warm on board.

Here is the video:
https://youtu.be/H7EKuaQbU5g

Dan Cormier
S/V Breakaweigh (soon to be Balachandra)
1986 C&C44
Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List Looking for a C&C 35 MKI

[David Jacobs via CnC-List]

Mike,

My C&C35 MK3, located in Bristol, RI is available. The listing can be seen at 

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1984/C%26C-35-MKIII-3131373/Bristol/RI/United-States#.WhhGfs33NOU.email
 

 

Best Regards,

Dave J
Saltaire
C&C35 MK3
Bristol, RI


> On Nov 18, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mike. There is one at the Miramar Yacht club in Brooklyn, NY that was owned 
> by an excellent sailor who was the club champion.  Very fast and good 
> condition.  Good price.  Owner Is Irv Shapiro.  Club info is 
> 
> Tel:  (718) 769 - 3548 
> Email: s...@miramaryc.com 
> Contact me if you want more information not.  Jerry 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:48 PM, Mike Casey via CnC-List  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks, it's probably the wrong time of year for this, but if anyone knows 
>> of a C&C 35 MKI for sale, would you please let me know?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Mike Casey
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> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:48 PM, Mike Casey via CnC-List  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks, it's probably the wrong time of year for this, but if anyone knows 
>> of a C&C 35 MKI for sale, would you please let me know?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Mike Casey
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