Re: Stus-List jump starting a yanmar

[Michael Crombie via CnC-List]

Hi all, does anyone know which solenoid terminals I need to connect (with a
screwdriver) when i'm jump starting a yanmar 2gm20f?

Thanks,

Mike
Atacama 33 mkii

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 9:43 PM Persuasion37 via CnC-List, <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Sorry I have limited data.  But there is a way to connect a led light to
> the controller to see if there are any faults.  Just google it.  Mine was
> the controller.
>
> Mike
> PERSUASION
> C&C 37 K/CB
> Long Sault
>
> On Jul 13, 2018, at 6:47 PM, David via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> So.  3 year old old Danfoss 12 volt refrig.   Last one lasted us  20 plus
> years.  This one...?   Worked great until this year.  Start it up.  Fan is
> going and we get frosting at the evaporator at where the tubes enter.   But
> not consistent throughout evaporator.  If a coolant leak would we get any
> frosting of evap at all?
>
> Voltage is 12.5 or better .
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
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Stus-List Gas consumption C&C34 with Atomic 4

[jay hackney via CnC-List]

Hello colleagues
Filled with gas for the Atomic 4 in Port Whitby Canada Day and sailed back to 
Toronto. Wind out of the West and tight timeline meant we had to motor against 
the wind and waves for 2.5 hr. That would be relatively “hard” motoring at 4-5 
knots. Since then I’ve motored about another 3/4hr for a total of 3.25 hours, 
again at about 4.5 knots. Filled with gas again the other day to measure gas 
consumption and got 7.9 litres per hour, or 1.8 gal per hour.
I’ve got a 2-blade folding prop (which, by the way, make reversing difficult - 
in the sense that there is no quick stopping).
Does that seem normal?
Online research seems to go from 0.5 to 2-3 gal per hour.
Anyone with an A4 on a C&C34 with a gas consumption comparison out there?
thanks
Jay Hackney
Windblown
Toronto

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Re: Stus-List Gas consumption C&C34 with Atomic 4

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I had AT4 in Touche', 35-1, for a few years.  Had Martec folding 14x5P
prop.  Fuel economy was about 1 gph for usual conditions.

If you were motoring into wind and waves, you were more than likely "making
bubbles".  That is, in order for you to get to the full horsepower of the
AT4, you were near max rpm, 2500-2800.  Your AT4 is probably a 1:1
transmission.  Your boat speed was slower therefore your prop was probably
cavitating quite a bit due to the high prop rpm.  The resulting
inefficiency drove your fuel usage up.

Diesels are usually reduction drives, usually about 2:1.  Therefore, a
diesel running 2800 rpm has a prop speed of about 1400 rpm.  Diesel drives
are pitched at 12-16, give or take.  That, and a flatter torque curve, is
why diesels are better for punching into waves.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 9:29 AM, jay hackney via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello colleagues
> Filled with gas for the Atomic 4 in Port Whitby Canada Day and sailed back
> to Toronto. Wind out of the West and tight timeline meant we had to motor
> against the wind and waves for 2.5 hr. That would be relatively “hard”
> motoring at 4-5 knots. Since then I’ve motored about another 3/4hr for a
> total of 3.25 hours, again at about 4.5 knots. Filled with gas again the
> other day to measure gas consumption and got 7.9 litres per hour, or 1.8
> gal per hour.
> I’ve got a 2-blade folding prop (which, by the way, make reversing
> difficult - in the sense that there is no quick stopping).
> Does that seem normal?
> Online research seems to go from 0.5 to 2-3 gal per hour.
> Anyone with an A4 on a C&C34 with a gas consumption comparison out there?
> thanks
> Jay Hackney
> Windblown
> Toronto
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Re: Stus-List looking for a landfall 38 boarding ladder with the stern pulpit.

[John via CnC-List]

Hello everyone

I need to find a boarding ladder and section of the stern pulpit, it was 
removed by previous owner. See picture. 

Thanks


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Re: Stus-List jump starting a yanmar

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Here you go.

https://youtu.be/Mp2cGDa1VOU

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Yanmar 3HM35F
Solomons, MD

On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 7:26 AM Michael Crombie via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi all, does anyone know which solenoid terminals I need to connect (with
> a screwdriver) when i'm jump starting a yanmar 2gm20f?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> Atacama 33 mkii
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 9:43 PM Persuasion37 via CnC-List, <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry I have limited data.  But there is a way to connect a led light to
>> the controller to see if there are any faults.  Just google it.  Mine was
>> the controller.
>>
>> Mike
>> PERSUASION
>> C&C 37 K/CB
>> Long Sault
>>
>> On Jul 13, 2018, at 6:47 PM, David via CnC-List 
>> wrote:
>>
>> So.  3 year old old Danfoss 12 volt refrig.   Last one lasted us  20 plus
>> years.  This one...?   Worked great until this year.  Start it up.  Fan is
>> going and we get frosting at the evaporator at where the tubes enter.   But
>> not consistent throughout evaporator.  If a coolant leak would we get any
>> frosting of evap at all?
>>
>> Voltage is 12.5 or better .
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Get Outlook for Android
>>
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Re: Stus-List looking for a landfall 38 boarding ladder with the stern pulpit.

[john sandford via CnC-List]

I don't have a spare but can certainly get you full dimensions, so you cane
get one built, if that is any help.

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From: John [mailto:johnrogerswri...@gmail.com] 
Sent: July-14-18 1:44 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List looking for a landfall 38 boarding ladder with the
stern pulpit.

Hello everyone

I need to find a boarding ladder and section of the stern pulpit, it was
removed by previous owner. See picture. 

Thanks



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Re: Stus-List Gas consumption C&C34 with Atomic 4

[james via CnC-List]

My C&C 38 has an A4 with a 2:1 reduction and a solid 16x10 prop. Fuel 
Burn is just over 1 gph at 2500-2750 rpm's.


James T.

Delaney

Oriental, NC


On 7/14/2018 10:57 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
I had AT4 in Touche', 35-1, for a few years.  Had Martec folding 14x5P 
prop.  Fuel economy was about 1 gph for usual conditions.


If you were motoring into wind and waves, you were more than likely 
"making bubbles".  That is, in order for you to get to the full 
horsepower of the AT4, you were near max rpm, 2500-2800.  Your AT4 is 
probably a 1:1 transmission.  Your boat speed was slower therefore 
your prop was probably cavitating quite a bit due to the high prop 
rpm.  The resulting inefficiency drove your fuel usage up.


Diesels are usually reduction drives, usually about 2:1. Therefore, a 
diesel running 2800 rpm has a prop speed of about 1400 rpm.  Diesel 
drives are pitched at 12-16, give or take. That, and a flatter torque 
curve, is why diesels are better for punching into waves.


Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 9:29 AM, jay hackney via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Hello colleagues
Filled with gas for the Atomic 4 in Port Whitby Canada Day and
sailed back to Toronto. Wind out of the West and tight timeline
meant we had to motor against the wind and waves for 2.5 hr. That
would be relatively “hard” motoring at 4-5 knots. Since then I’ve
motored about another 3/4hr for a total of 3.25 hours, again at
about 4.5 knots. Filled with gas again the other day to measure
gas consumption and got 7.9 litres per hour, or 1.8 gal per hour.
I’ve got a 2-blade folding prop (which, by the way, make reversing
difficult - in the sense that there is no quick stopping).
Does that seem normal?
Online research seems to go from 0.5 to 2-3 gal per hour.
Anyone with an A4 on a C&C34 with a gas consumption comparison out
there?
thanks
Jay Hackney
Windblown
Toronto
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Re: Stus-List looking for a landfall 38 boarding ladder with the stern pulpit.

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

These guys will be able to help you:

http://www.whitewatermarineinc.com/

They may even have the build drawings for what you need.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 11:43 AM, John  wrote:

> Hello everyone
>
> I need to find a boarding ladder and section of the stern pulpit, it was
> removed by previous owner. See picture.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List C&C 34 1980 plumbing

[Jay Hackney via CnC-List]

Folks 
The foot pump works. The pump motor works at the sink but doesn’t pump water. 
It’s a Shurflo 220. any ideas how to troubleshoot this?
Jay
C&C 34 
Windblown 

Jay Hackney
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Re: Stus-List C&C 34 1980 plumbing

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

First, a Google search does not reveal any existence of a 220.

Second, based on what I did find, your pump is most likely one of the many
variants of a triplex, self priming, positive displacement pump, as seen in
the link.
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/shurflo--pump-service-kits-parts--P011_331_003_002

The rubber gets hard or gunk grows on it and then it doesn't seal properly
on the forward or reverse stroke.  Sometimes in the early stages of failure
you may have luck getting it to work as long as it is primed.  Wet rubber
seals better than dry.  If that isn't enough then a disassemble, clean, and
reassemble may be enough to get you going in a pinch but complete failure
is imminent.  The best fix is to determine the correct repair kit and
replace the internals.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Jul 14, 2018 2:40 PM, "Jay Hackney via CnC-List" 
wrote:

Folks
The foot pump works. The pump motor works at the sink but doesn’t pump
water. It’s a Shurflo 220. any ideas how to troubleshoot this?
Jay
C&C 34
Windblown

Jay Hackney
Sent from my iPhone
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Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I found some rust blisters on the riser while poking around in the engine
the other day.  I had a moment yesterday to do the replacement with parts
which I have had for some time.  The rubber exhaust hose was stuck on and a
considerable amount of wrestling was required to separate it from the
riser.  In the effort it went unnoticed that some of the rust blisters had
broken away.  Once I finally got it off and had a chance to inspect I found
that the rust had opened up a dime sized hole.  If this had let go
unexpectedly I would have started blowing exhaust and water into my engine
compartment.  My "what would I have done" thoughts started rolling and I've
decided that a tube of epoxy putty would have been my first effort at an
emergency repair.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1aC6-4V8P3BufZhZsusYFmMlmHknk-Ftv

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

Josh,

 

That’s a nasty hole.  How old is the elbow?  Time for a new one.  Standard or 
stainless?

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”

Hampton VA



 

 

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via 
CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 15:21
To: C&C List 
Cc: Josh Muckley 
Subject: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

 

I found some rust blisters on the riser while poking around in the engine the 
other day.  I had a moment yesterday to do the replacement with parts which I 
have had for some time.  The rubber exhaust hose was stuck on and a 
considerable amount of wrestling was required to separate it from the riser.  
In the effort it went unnoticed that some of the rust blisters had broken away. 
 Once I finally got it off and had a chance to inspect I found that the rust 
had opened up a dime sized hole.  If this had let go unexpectedly I would have 
started blowing exhaust and water into my engine compartment.  My "what would I 
have done" thoughts started rolling and I've decided that a tube of epoxy putty 
would have been my first effort at an emergency repair.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1aC6-4V8P3BufZhZsusYFmMlmHknk-Ftv

 

Josh Muckley 

S/V Sea Hawk 

1989 C&C 37+

Solomons, MD

 

 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

It is original to my ownership (6 years), who knows prior to that.
Replaced with "stainless" from ebay.

Josh



On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 4:46 PM Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Josh,
>
>
>
> That’s a nasty hole.  How old is the elbow?  Time for a new one.  Standard
> or stainless?
>
>
>
> Jake
>
>
>
> *Jake Brodersen*
>
> *C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”*
>
> *Hampton VA*
>
> [image: cid:image001.png@01D2F43E.567E4070]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Josh
> Muckley via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 14, 2018 15:21
> *To:* C&C List 
> *Cc:* Josh Muckley 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>
>
>
> I found some rust blisters on the riser while poking around in the engine
> the other day.  I had a moment yesterday to do the replacement with parts
> which I have had for some time.  The rubber exhaust hose was stuck on and a
> considerable amount of wrestling was required to separate it from the
> riser.  In the effort it went unnoticed that some of the rust blisters had
> broken away.  Once I finally got it off and had a chance to inspect I found
> that the rust had opened up a dime sized hole.  If this had let go
> unexpectedly I would have started blowing exhaust and water into my engine
> compartment.  My "what would I have done" thoughts started rolling and I've
> decided that a tube of epoxy putty would have been my first effort at an
> emergency repair.
>
> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1aC6-4V8P3BufZhZsusYFmMlmHknk-Ftv
>
>
>
> Josh Muckley
>
> S/V Sea Hawk
>
> 1989 C&C 37+
>
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I was pleasantly surprised, that after 5 years of use and no service, the
elbow was in no way clogged with soot.  I believe this to be a result of
regulatory keeping the engine load as high as possible.

Josh

On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 5:11 PM Josh Muckley  wrote:

> It is original to my ownership (6 years), who knows prior to that.
> Replaced with "stainless" from ebay.
>
> Josh
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 4:46 PM Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Josh,
>>
>>
>>
>> That’s a nasty hole.  How old is the elbow?  Time for a new one.
>> Standard or stainless?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jake
>>
>>
>>
>> *Jake Brodersen*
>>
>> *C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”*
>>
>> *Hampton VA*
>>
>> [image: cid:image001.png@01D2F43E.567E4070]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Josh
>> Muckley via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 14, 2018 15:21
>> *To:* C&C List 
>> *Cc:* Josh Muckley 
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>>
>>
>>
>> I found some rust blisters on the riser while poking around in the engine
>> the other day.  I had a moment yesterday to do the replacement with parts
>> which I have had for some time.  The rubber exhaust hose was stuck on and a
>> considerable amount of wrestling was required to separate it from the
>> riser.  In the effort it went unnoticed that some of the rust blisters had
>> broken away.  Once I finally got it off and had a chance to inspect I found
>> that the rust had opened up a dime sized hole.  If this had let go
>> unexpectedly I would have started blowing exhaust and water into my engine
>> compartment.  My "what would I have done" thoughts started rolling and I've
>> decided that a tube of epoxy putty would have been my first effort at an
>> emergency repair.
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1aC6-4V8P3BufZhZsusYFmMlmHknk-Ftv
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>>
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>>
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>>
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Stus-List Lazy Jacks

[schiller via CnC-List]

Just finished installing a lazy jack system from Port Townsend Rigging 
on Grace, our 1983 C&C 35-3.  These lazy jacks are stowable at the mast 
so that the mainsail cover doesn't need to be modified.  The kit was 
well put together.  Synthetic line for the cradles, nice Selden cheek 
blocks.  An hour up the mast to install the cheek blocks and two flag 
halyards, another half an hour or so to install the boom eye straps, 
cleats and jam cleat and it was done.  The first use was great, dropped 
the main and it all flaked nicely in to the cradle.  I am pleased with 
the cost, quality and ease of installation.


Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028
"Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC
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Re: Stus-List Lazy Jacks

[svrebeccaleah via CnC-List]

Glad to see the plug for Port Townsend Rigging. They are currently redoing my 
standing rigging, and goose neck. I also added a second sheave for another main 
halyard that will also work with a trisail. Dan and Lisa along with the rest of 
the staff are very knowledgeable. I am spending a month in Port Townsend 
working on Rebecca Leah's mast. Any question I have they take time to explain 
why something is done this way or that. 


Doug Mountjoy Rebecca Leah LF39 Port Orchard YC, WA.


 Original message From: schiller via CnC-List 
 Date: 7/14/18  15:30  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: schiller  Subject: 
Stus-List Lazy Jacks 

Just finished installing a lazy jack system from
  Port Townsend Rigging on Grace, our 1983 C&C 35-3.  These lazy
  jacks are stowable at the mast so that the mainsail cover doesn't
  need to be modified.  The kit was well put together.  Synthetic
  line for the cradles, nice Selden cheek blocks.  An hour up the
  mast to install the cheek blocks and two flag halyards, another
  half an hour or so to install the boom eye straps, cleats and jam
  cleat and it was done.  The first use was great, dropped the main
  and it all flaked nicely in to the cradle.  I am pleased with the
  cost, quality and ease of installation.

  

  Neil Schiller

  1983 C&C 35-3, #028

  "Grace"

  Whitehall, Michigan

  WLYC


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Stus-List Charging issues

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

So my gauge shows 14amps while motoring but after a long motoring trip my 
starting battery and house batteries are not charging.  The house batteries 
charge under shore power.
I'm taking the starting battery home to throw on a charger to see if it will 
take a charge.  If oin l I'm seeing the 14 amps can I assume the alternator is 
working? 


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Re: Stus-List Charging issues

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

14 amps or 14 volts?

If 14 volts, are you seeing 14 volts across the battery terminals when
motoring?

Dennis C.

On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 6:30 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> So my gauge shows 14amps while motoring but after a long motoring trip my
> starting battery and house batteries are not charging.  The house batteries
> charge under shore power.
>
> I'm taking the starting battery home to throw on a charger to see if it
> will take a charge.  If oin l I'm seeing the 14 amps can I assume the
> alternator is working?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Danny
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Re: Stus-List Lazy Jacks

[James Bibb via CnC-List]

Dan and Lisa are great!   Have them signed up to look at my standing rigging 
this fall.  

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> On Jul 14, 2018, at 2:50 PM, svrebeccaleah via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Glad to see the plug for Port Townsend Rigging. They are currently redoing my 
> standing rigging, and goose neck. I also added a second sheave for another 
> main halyard that will also work with a trisail. Dan and Lisa along with the 
> rest of the staff are very knowledgeable. I am spending a month in Port 
> Townsend working on Rebecca Leah's mast. Any question I have they take time 
> to explain why something is done this way or that. 
> 
> 
> 
> Doug Mountjoy 
> Rebecca Leah 
> LF39 
> Port Orchard YC, WA.
> 
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: schiller via CnC-List 
> Date: 7/14/18 15:30 (GMT-08:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: schiller 
> Subject: Stus-List Lazy Jacks
> 
> Just finished installing a lazy jack system from Port Townsend Rigging on 
> Grace, our 1983 C&C 35-3.  These lazy jacks are stowable at the mast so that 
> the mainsail cover doesn't need to be modified.  The kit was well put 
> together.  Synthetic line for the cradles, nice Selden cheek blocks.  An hour 
> up the mast to install the cheek blocks and two flag halyards, another half 
> an hour or so to install the boom eye straps, cleats and jam cleat and it was 
> done.  The first use was great, dropped the main and it all flaked nicely in 
> to the cradle.  I am pleased with the   cost, quality and ease of 
> installation.
> 
> Neil Schiller
> 1983 C&C 35-3, #028
> "Grace"
> Whitehall, Michigan
> WLYC
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 455 minutes at 25 amps...

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

The reason that the rating is at 25 amps specifically is that 25 amps is the 
typical rate of consumption for a car with a defective alternator or a missing 
fan belt. The 25 amp hour rating is an indication of how long you can drive 
your car before it quits operating altogether if one of the above failures 
occurs. 

 

SAE (society of Automotive Engineers) adopted the 25 amp rate as a standard for 
that reason 4 or 5 decades ago.

 

It’s strange the things you remember after years and years in the automotive 
industry.

 

Rick Brass

BSME from General Motors Institute, among other arcane things.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, 
Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 7:41 AM
To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: 455 minutes at 25 amps...

 

Yup – 1 amp for one hour is 1 AH.

There is a reason for the 25 amp rate. A 200 amp hour battery will, in theory, 
provide 200 amps for 1 hour or 1 amp for 200 hours. In real life that does not 
work, at 200 amps you would get less than one hour and at 1 amp you would get 
more than 200 hours. Without the 25 amp rate a creative ad writer might 
advertise a 200 AH battery as a 240 AH battery (at 1 amp LOL )

 

Joe

Coquina

C&C 35 MK I

 

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svrebeccaleah via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 8:12 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: svrebeccaleah
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps...

 

If I remember my electrical schooling. (It's been a looong time) 455 ÷ 60 × 25 
= 189.5 amp hours. Hours × amps = amp hours. 

 

Doug Mountjoy 

Rebecca Leah 

LF39 

Port Orchard YC, WA.

 

 

 

 Original message 

From: David via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> 

Date: 7/12/18 15:13 (GMT-08:00) 

To: CNC CNC mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 

Cc: David mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com> > 

Subject: Stus-List 455 minutes at 25 amps... 

 

I'm still stuck in the old school amp hours capacity. And my new batteries are 
telling me 455 minutes at 25 amps. Could someone better at this basic concept 
help me equate this information to amp hour capacity?  Rey to set my amp/volt 
meter.  

Thanks in advance.  

Get Outlook for Android

 

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Re: Stus-List looking for a landfall 38 boarding ladder with the stern pulpit.

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

John;

You can use any boarding ladder you chose to purchase, but longer is better
for getting up out of the water. And the gate in the pushpit is a length of
covered stainless wire with a shackle swaged to one end and a pelican hook
on the other.

I can send you a photo of what is on my 38, if you would like.

Rick Brass
Washington, NC



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Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 12:44 PM
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Cc: John 
Subject: Re: Stus-List looking for a landfall 38 boarding ladder with the
stern pulpit.

Hello everyone

I need to find a boarding ladder and section of the stern pulpit, it was
removed by previous owner. See picture. 

Thanks



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Re: Stus-List Gas consumption C&C34 with Atomic 4

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I would have to have a hole in the tank to use more than maybe 1-1.5 gal/hr.JoeCoquinaC&C 35 MK IAtomic 4 (third one)On July 14, 2018 at 1:12 PM james via CnC-List  wrote:  My C&C 38 has an A4 with a 2:1 reduction and a solid 16x10 prop. Fuel Burn is just over 1 gph at 2500-2750 rpm's.James T.DelaneyOriental, NCOn 7/14/2018 10:57 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: I had AT4 in Touche', 35-1, for a few years.  Had Martec folding 14x5P prop.  Fuel economy was about 1 gph for usual conditions.If you were motoring into wind and waves, you were more than likely "making bubbles".  That is, in order for you to get to the full horsepower of the AT4, you were near max rpm, 2500-2800.  Your AT4 is probably a 1:1 transmission.  Your boat speed was slower therefore your prop was probably cavitating quite a bit due to the high prop rpm.  The resulting inefficiency drove your fuel usage up.Diesels are usually reduction drives, usually about 2:1.  Therefore, a diesel running 2800 rpm has a prop speed of about 1400 rpm.  Diesel drives are pitched at 12-16, give or take.  That, and a flatter torque curve, is why diesels are better for punching into waves. Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LAOn Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 9:29 AM, jay hackney via CnC-List  wrote: Hello colleagues  Filled with gas for the Atomic 4 in Port Whitby Canada Day and sailed back to Toronto. Wind out of the West and tight timeline meant we had to motor against the wind and waves for 2.5 hr. That would be relatively “hard” motoring at 4-5 knots. Since then I’ve motored about another 3/4hr for a total of 3.25 hours, again at about 4.5 knots. Filled with gas again the other day to measure gas consumption and got 7.9 litres per hour, or 1.8 gal per hour.  I’ve got a 2-blade folding prop (which, by the way, make reversing difficult - in the sense that there is no quick stopping).  Does that seem normal?  Online research seems to go from 0.5 to 2-3 gal per hour.  Anyone with an A4 on a C&C34 with a gas consumption comparison out there?  thanks  Jay Hackney  Windblown  Toronto  __ _   Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution --    https://www.paypal.me/stumurray___

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Re: Stus-List looking for a landfall 38 boarding ladder with the stern pulpit.

[John via CnC-List]

Yes Rick I would appreciate a picture. 

johnrogerswri...@gmail.com

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> On Jul 14, 2018, at 10:44 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> John;
> 
> You can use any boarding ladder you chose to purchase, but longer is better
> for getting up out of the water. And the gate in the pushpit is a length of
> covered stainless wire with a shackle swaged to one end and a pelican hook
> on the other.
> 
> I can send you a photo of what is on my 38, if you would like.
> 
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John via
> CnC-List
> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 12:44 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: John 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List looking for a landfall 38 boarding ladder with the
> stern pulpit.
> 
> Hello everyone
> 
> I need to find a boarding ladder and section of the stern pulpit, it was
> removed by previous owner. See picture. 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Charging issues

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Generally, yes, if you are showing about 14 volts when the engine is running, 
the alternator is probably OK.

 

When you say the start battery is not charging, is it safe to assume that the 
start battery will not start the engine? 

 

Under normal circumstances, and depending on the Amp-Hour capacity of the start 
battery, it will probably never get below 95% to 99% state of charge. (Unless, 
of course, you are using it to also power your house loads.) 

 

For example, the 36 HP Universal in my 38 draws 175 amps for about 30 seconds 
in starting, or about 1.4 AH. That is about 1.3% discharge on the 105AH deep 
cycle battery I use for starting. (And only for starting except in an emergency)

 

So the start battery is capable of reaching full charge in just a few minutes 
of engine run time, and the full output from the alternator then gets directed 
to the house bank if that is at a lower state of charge. If both are fully 
charged, the current flow just creates heat.

 

Check your start battery with a volt meter and both engine and battery switch 
turned off. If you get 12.6 volts or more, everything is probably OK.

 

If the start battery won’t start the motor, you probably need a new battery.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny 
Haughey via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 7:31 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Danny Haughey 
Subject: Stus-List Charging issues

 

So my gauge shows 14amps while motoring but after a long motoring trip my 
starting battery and house batteries are not charging.  The house batteries 
charge under shore power.

 

I'm taking the starting battery home to throw on a charger to see if it will 
take a charge.  If oin l I'm seeing the 14 amps can I assume the alternator is 
working? 

 

 

 

Thanks, 

Danny

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Re: Stus-List jump starting a yanmar

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

That was a little winded.

If you wish to jump the start solenoid with a
screwdriver, the simplest advice is: put it
across the two big wire connections.

Oh, and try not to scream like a girl when it sparks bigly. :)

Cheers, Russ
Sweet, 35 mk-1

At 09:52 AM 7/14/2018, you wrote:

Here you go.

https://youtu.be/Mp2cGDa1VOU

Josh MuckleyÂ
S/V Sea HawkÂ
1989 C&C 37+
Yanmar 3HM35F
Solomons, MD

On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 7:26 AM Michael Crombie
via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Hi all, does anyone know which solenoid
terminals I need to connect (with a screwdriver)
when i'm jump starting a yanmar 2gm20f?

Thanks,

Mike
Atacama 33 mkii



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Re: Stus-List Gas consumption C&C34 with Atomic 4

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Hi Jay,

Fuel estimate for Sweet when she had the A4 was 4
litres per hour at cruising speed. Speed range
was 3 - 5.5 knots (depended on conditions) with a two blade fixed prop.

Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1

At 07:29 AM 7/14/2018, you wrote:

Hello colleagues
Filled with gas for the Atomic 4 in Port Whitby
Canada Day and sailed back to Toronto. Wind out
of the West and tight timeline meant we had to
motor against the wind and waves for 2.5 hr.
That would be relatively “hard” motoring at
4-5 knots. Since then I’ve motored about
another 3/4hr for a total of 3.25 hours, again
at about 4.5 knots. Filled with gas again the
other day to measure gas consumption and got 7.9
litres per hour, or 1.8 gal per hour.
I’ve got a 2-blade folding prop (which, by the
way, make reversing difficult - in the sense that there is no quick stopping).
Does that seem normal?
Online research seems to go from 0.5 to 2-3 gal per hour.
Anyone with an A4 on a C&C34 with a gas consumption comparison out there?
thanks
Jay Hackney
Windblown
Toronto

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