Re: Stus-List Instruments

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I think your plan is just fine and you'll be very happy with the Raymarine 
gear. I changed to B&G for my new boat, but that was because it has some pretty 
advanced functions and integrates well with the Expedition planning software, 
which I don't pretend to understand, but my navigator does!
Andy

Andrew Burton
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Middletown, RI 
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> On Dec 1, 2018, at 18:15, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Our ancient Standard Horizon suite of wind, speed and depth works well except 
> the apparent wind.  Am suspecting the sending unit electronics are in need of 
> replacement but none available.  The depth and speed work great.  We do not 
> have auto pilot and do not integrate with GPS, chart plotter or AIS as no need
>  
> We intend to upgrade the suite of wind, speed and depth and ask opinions of 
> which brand, etc to consider.  Am inclined to the Raymarine I60 / I50 suite 
> due to read outs are very readable, proven technology, lower cost, ready 
> availability of repair parts, can integrate with NMEA 2000 etc etc.  Hole 
> size in hull is same as current,  Would need to drill new holes in bulkhead 
> but have the room
>  
> https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=raymarine-i50-i60-depth-speed-and-wind-systems-pack&path=-1|344|2028690|2028820&id=2086335
>  
>  
> Thoughts of the group?  Fred is this something you can deal with?
>  
>  
> John and Maryann
> Legacy III
> 1982 C&C 34
> Noank, CT
>  
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Re: Stus-List Galley Sink

[rjcasciato--- via CnC-List]

Hi Alanl stopped a long time ago trying to re-create a 1977 38MKII.If your going to replace the counter top.you can put in any size sink you want I chose one of the newer deep single bowls in shiny stainlessIt made replumbing the drain easier as well.I also replaced that piece of wood that is under the stairwayand always wet from rain coming in the companionway..We used the same white laminate that we used for the countertops and nav station desk top.Best,Ron Sent from Xfinity Connect Application-Original Message-From: cnc-list@cnc-list.comTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: trya...@alumni.usc.eduSent: 2018-12-01 12:18:32 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Galley SinkHi Ron - Where did you find a single bowl sink that's about the same size as the double sink that came with many of the C&C's? Alan Bergen35 Mk III ThirstyRose City YCPortland, OROn Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 6:52 AM rjcasciato--- via CnC-List  wrote:Hi Adamdo not listen to those C&C'rs who say that the dark cave is a good place to bethe dark ages are over...I redid the countertops on my 38MKII '77 vintage a year ago...What a differencethe whole interior feels much bigger than beforeWe used simple laminate in white and it is amazing...Used the savings from the counter top to replace the sink with a new single bowlanother great decision.Definitely go for itremembera happy Admiral is a happy life.Ron C.

 





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Stus-List Instruments

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

Our ancient Standard Horizon suite of wind, speed and depth works well
except the apparent wind.  Am suspecting the sending unit electronics are in
need of replacement but none available.  The depth and speed work great.  We
do not have auto pilot and do not integrate with GPS, chart plotter or AIS
as no need

 

We intend to upgrade the suite of wind, speed and depth and ask opinions of
which brand, etc to consider.  Am inclined to the Raymarine I60 / I50 suite
due to read outs are very readable, proven technology, lower cost, ready
availability of repair parts, can integrate with NMEA 2000 etc etc.  Hole
size in hull is same as current,  Would need to drill new holes in bulkhead
but have the room

 

https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=raymarine-i50-i60-depth-speed-and
-wind-systems-pack

&path=-1|344|2028690|2028820&id=2086335

 

 

Thoughts of the group?  Fred is this something you can deal with?

 

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Winter battery maintenance.

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I would not put a solar panel without a controller, even if it puts only 1 A. 

Why? I murdered two batteries this way. My panel was 15 W, so hardly tons of 
current, but each battery lasted just about a season. I thought that spending 
extra $50 for a controller was a waste of money. I blamed the batteries, but I 
learned since.

Marek

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Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2018 12:04
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Cc: Len Mitchell 
Subject: Stus-List Winter battery maintenance.

Not sure why no one has talked about a solar panel to keep batteries topped up! 
Or did I miss something? The price just keeps getting lower and they work well. 
Mine are always up and the boat is covered in canvas plus snow. A small 
inexpensive panel will deliver 2 amps or less in the daylight and won’t even 
require a controller at that charge rate. If your batteries are being 
discharged or they aren’t strong enough, they can freeze. Check specific 
gravity and electrolyte level yes! 
Len

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Re: Stus-List Landfill series

[WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List]

Just poking you...I own a 36...i think phrf is near or identical to 35mk1...at 
least in lake Michigan
Bill Walker CnC 36
Pentwater, Mi.

Bill Walker 

On Saturday, December 1, 2018 Russ & Melody via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Hi Bill,

I didn't think so. The 36 that I was on is a very nice boat to sail, 
as you expect of a C&C.

And there isn't one listed on Stu's site.
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/brochures/brochuresndx.htm

Anyone with a brochure out there?

Cheers, Russ



At 11:37 AM 12/1/2018, you wrote:

>So Russ,
> Is the 36 considered a landfill series?
>
>Bill Walker
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Re: Stus-List Landfill series

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Hi Bill,

I didn't think so. The 36 that I was on is a very nice boat to sail, 
as you expect of a C&C.


And there isn't one listed on Stu's site.
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/brochures/brochuresndx.htm

Anyone with a brochure out there?

Cheers, Russ



At 11:37 AM 12/1/2018, you wrote:


So Russ,
   Is the 36 considered a landfill series?

Bill Walker
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Stus-List Cleaning the engine.

[Bev Parslow via CnC-List]

What is the safest thing to use to clean off accumulated years of oil etc. Some 
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Stus-List Landfill series

[WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List]

So Russ,
   Is the 36 considered a landfill series?

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Re: Stus-List Galley and NAV station counters

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Hi Ron,

Your laminate update is exactly the right thing to do.

Simple, cost effective and no extra weight. Not at all like replacing 
a functional top with a few slabs of polished rock or something that 
looks like it belongs in a condo.


I admit to being a bit opinionated around yachts and hate to see a 
good sailing yacht such as the "36" getting something similar to a 3 
blade (fixed) prop. A man should gently bring the Admiral up to speed 
on the care and concerns of the yacht, then take her out for dinner, 
instead of pandering to a whim.


On Amazing Grace the C&C cruising boats were known as the "Landfill 
series".  Just for fun & chuckles mind you. Not intending to hurt 
anybody's feelings. :)


Cheers, Russ
exSweet  35 mk-1

At 06:54 AM 12/1/2018, you wrote:
Hi Adamdo not listen to those C&C'rs who say that the dark cave 
is a good place to bethe dark ages are over

...
I redid the countertops on my 38MKII '77 vintage a year ago...

What a differencethe whole interior feels much bigger than before
We used simple laminate in white and it is amazing...
Used the savings from the counter top to replace the sink with a new 
single bowlanother great decision.


Definitely go for itremembera happy Admiral is a happy life.
Ron C.
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Re: Stus-List Galley Sink

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

Hi Ron -
Where did you find a single bowl sink that's about the same size as the
double sink that came with many of the C&C's?

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 6:52 AM rjcasciato--- via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Adamdo not listen to those C&C'rs who say that the dark cave is a
> good place to bethe dark ages are over
> ...
> I redid the countertops on my 38MKII '77 vintage a year ago...
>
> What a differencethe whole interior feels much bigger than before
> We used simple laminate in white and it is amazing...
> Used the savings from the counter top to replace the sink with a new
> single bowlanother great decision.
>
> Definitely go for itremembera happy Admiral is a happy life.
> Ron C.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Winter battery maintenance.

[Len Mitchell via CnC-List]

Not sure why no one has talked about a solar panel to keep batteries topped up! 
Or did I miss something? The price just keeps getting lower and they work well. 
Mine are always up and the boat is covered in canvas plus snow. A small 
inexpensive panel will deliver 2 amps or less in the daylight and won’t even 
require a controller at that charge rate. If your batteries are being 
discharged or they aren’t strong enough, they can freeze. Check specific 
gravity and electrolyte level yes! 
Len

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Stus-List Winter Battery Maintenance

[Garry Cross via CnC-List]

>
> It's a good idea to disconnect. Likely a radio and charger will still be
> connected even with switch off. The radio uses a trickle to keep the memory
> settings in place. Had a car in the garage for the winter. Learned about
> the radio and other car electronics the hard way.


>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: robert 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 22:38:08 -0400
> Subject: Stus-List Winter Battery Maintenance
>   I prepare the batteries for winter on the boat by topping up the
> electrolyte, fully charge the batteries, check the specific gravity of
> all 12 cells looking for 1.260 or better, clean it, and disconnect
> everything from themsome say disconnect only the negative,some say
> the positiveI do both, beats deciding which one is the right one.
>
> The single biggest threat or chance of an accident where I live is
> freezing.if the specific gravity is 1.260 or close, the temperature
> would have to be something like minus -80 to -90 F
>
> If that happens,  2 frozen, dead batteries will be the least of my
> problems.
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 -#277
> Halifax, N.S.
>
>
> On 2018-11-30 9:23 p.m., dwight veinot via CnC-List wrote:
> > Rob Abbott’s method works but in addition i recommend disconnecting
> > the cable from the positive terminal
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Galley and NAV station counters

[rjcasciato--- via CnC-List]

Hi Adamdo not listen to those C&C'rs who say that the dark cave is a good place to bethe dark ages are over...I redid the countertops on my 38MKII '77 vintage a year ago...What a differencethe whole interior feels much bigger than beforeWe used simple laminate in white and it is amazing...Used the savings from the counter top to replace the sink with a new single bowlanother great decision.Definitely go for itremembera happy Admiral is a happy life.Ron C.Sent from Xfinity Connect Application-Original Message-From: cnc-list@cnc-list.comTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: davidrisc...@msn.comSent: 2018-12-01 7:39:49 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Galley and NAV station counters



I too am adding a countertop to my decidedly not Cat/Hunt/Ben galley top.  Too much dark teak down below.  i think the original owner purchased every available teak option.  Go for it.




1981 40-2




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Subject: Re: Stus-List Galley and NAV station counters



  


Some of the early 90s C&Cs actually came from the factory with Corian (?) sinks and counter tops, including my 1995 36 XL/kcb.




Charlie Nelson 


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On Friday, November 30, 2018, Russ & Melody via CnC-List  wrote:








Hi Adam, 



At the risk of being too honest and taking your request for any feedback at face value... please, please do not do such a horrible thing as to add corian countertops to a C&C.




If you are serious about going that route then may I suggest a Beneteau, Hunter or Catalina as a viable candidate. Then I will offer no objection at all.




Best regards, Russ 


ex Sweet 35 mk-1 




At 03:03 PM 11/30/2018, you wrote: 







I am wondering if anyone has changed out their galley countertops for more modern products such as corian or other hard surface.  I am not so much concerned about the excess weight as we do mostly cruising.  



We are also very diligent about store ng fear when sailing so I even question the need for the fiddles. 




I just think it would modernize the interior and please the admiral. 



Any feedback ior suggestions is appreciated. 



Adam Hayden 


C&C 36 


state of bliss. 





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Stus-List Winter Battery Maintenance

[robert via CnC-List]

Dave:

If the electrolyte is covering the plates and strong (specific gravity 
of each cell approx. 1.260) you should have no issues with the batteries 
doing this.


When I go aboard my boat over the winter (on the hard), I plug in the AC 
power and give the batteries a charge.  At our club, given the close 
proximity of the boats stored on the property, you are not permitted to 
leave the shore power connected to an unattended boat.if one boat 
caught fire, many more would also.  In case someone deliberately or 
unintentionally left their power cord plugged in, the night watchman 
makes his rounds of the property and disconnects any he finds.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 2018-12-01 8:10 a.m., Dave via CnC-List wrote:
Windstar has two parallel group 31 batteries as the house bank, and a 
single start battery with a 20a multi bank smart charger.
For winter I top up the electrolyte , and leave the shore power cable 
connected to the well-covered boat, coiled and hanging from the prop 
shaft.   Charger turned on.
Every month or so I emerge from hibernation and connect the boat 
overnight  to an outlet in the yard via a cheater cable to top up the 
batteries.

Seems to work fine.   Can anyone see any issue with this approach?

Thanks.
Dave -
33-2 on the hard near Toronto.



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Re: Stus-List Galley and NAV station counters

[David via CnC-List]

I too am adding a countertop to my decidedly not Cat/Hunt/Ben galley top.  Too 
much dark teak down below.  i think the original owner purchased every 
available teak option.  Go for it.

1981 40-2

>From my Android

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Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Galley and NAV station counters

Some of the early 90s C&Cs actually came from the factory with Corian (?) sinks 
and counter tops, including my 1995 36 XL/kcb.

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom


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On Friday, November 30, 2018, Russ & Melody via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Hi Adam,

At the risk of being too honest and taking your request for any feedback at 
face value... please, please do not do such a horrible thing as to add corian 
countertops to a C&C.

If you are serious about going that route then may I suggest a Beneteau, Hunter 
or Catalina as a viable candidate. Then I will offer no objection at all.

Best regards, Russ
ex Sweet 35 mk-1


At 03:03 PM 11/30/2018, you wrote:


I am wondering if anyone has changed out their galley countertops for more 
modern products such as corian or other hard surface.  I am not so much 
concerned about the excess weight as we do mostly cruising.
We are also very diligent about store ng fear when sailing so I even question 
the need for the fiddles.

I just think it would modernize the interior and please the admiral.

Any feedback ior suggestions is appreciated.

Adam Hayden
C&C 36
state of bliss.
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Re: Stus-List Winter Battery Maintenance

[Dave via CnC-List]

Windstar has two parallel group 31 batteries as the house bank, and a single 
start battery with a 20a multi bank smart charger.
For winter I top up the electrolyte , and leave the shore power cable connected 
to the well-covered boat, coiled and hanging from the prop shaft.   Charger 
turned on.
Every month or so I emerge from hibernation and connect the boat overnight  to 
an outlet in the yard via a cheater cable to top up the batteries.
Seems to work fine.   Can anyone see any issue with this approach?

Thanks.
Dave - 
33-2 on the hard near Toronto.

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> On Nov 30, 2018, at 8:23 PM, dwight veinot  wrote:
> 
> Rob Abbott’s method works but in addition i recommend disconnecting the cable 
> from the positive terminal
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 3:32 PM robert via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> There is a marine contractor at our club, who also owns a boat, and who is 
>> very knowledgeable about proper boat maintenance and he leaves his batteries 
>> on his boat over our winters. he just gives them a full charge and turns 
>> the battery disconnect switch off. ..doesn't even disconnect everything 
>> from the battery itself.  He checks each cell to ensure the electrolyte 
>> is to the top of each plate and brings them to full charge.  
>> 
>> If the battery is in good condition with the acid of a specific gravity of 
>> around 1.260, the freezing temperature to do any harm to it would be colder 
>> than anything we might experience in North America.
>> 
>> 
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 - #277
>> Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2018-11-30 11:15 a.m., Raymond Macklin via CnC-List wrote:
>>> I have two batteries that I am looking for information on how to Maintain 
>>> my batteries over the winter.  What charger to purchase and process to 
>>> follow. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Ray
>>> LakeHouse
>>> Milwaukee, WI
>>> 
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