Re: Stus-List Broken shift cable - Now build file

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

I sent a cheque that paid for the files plus an additional amount to cover
shipping (as I live 2000 km away from South Shore Yachts).  Once the cheque
cleared he shipped them in one quite heavy file box, via FedEx.

Ken H.

On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 17:16, Richard Bush via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Ken, thank I will follow up on this and let the group know.  How did you
> get the files? Did you have to go get them? thanks
>
> Richard
>
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list 
> Cc: Ken Heaton 
> Sent: Wed, Mar 6, 2019 3:49 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Broken shift cable - Now build file
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> I didn't ask but they may have some more files if they found the ones they
> sold me.  My guess is they are stored somewhere where it is inconvenient to
> go looking through them, to find just one, so they don't bother, but that
> is just a guess. I assume as I was willing to take a bunch at once, and was
> willing to pay for them, they looked to see what they had in storage.  I
> did tell him if they found more I'd buy them but never did get any more.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 15:31, Richard Bush via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Ken, that is a great find: a couple of years ago I was told that
> Southshore had destroyed all of the build files; did you get a sense that
> they may still have files other than the 37/40s you bought?
>
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, MIle 596:
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list 
> Cc: Ken Heaton 
> Sent: Wed, Mar 6, 2019 1:45 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Broken shift cable - Now build file
>
> Southshore still had some of the files last year, probably buried in deep
> storage somewhere.  I asked him to dig out all he could find for the C&C
> 37/40 series and he found quite a few (almost 40 of them) and sold them to
> me.
>
> For anyone who has a 37/40 (or a 40' from 1993 to 1995) and is interested,
> any boat listed on this page with a YES in the column 'Build File" I have
> the file for.  You can have yours if you want it for a $40.00 donation to
> Stu.
>
> https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.com/p/a-list-of-known-c-3740-boat-name.html
>
> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
> C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
>
> https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/p/salazar.html
>
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 09:59, schiller via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Speaking of build files, if anyone knows who has C&C 35-1 Hull number
> 71, I have the build file for it.  I tried to get the build file for our
> Redwing 35 (Hull #7) way back when and was sent hull #71 instead.  If
> anyone wants it, let me know.
>
> I wish the build files were still available from South Shore.  I would
> like to find the build file for our 35-3 (#028).
>
> Neil Schiller
> 1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
> Crosswinds Marine, Whitehall, Michigan
> WLYC
> 2 weeks until spring with a fresh half foot of new snow.
>
> On 3/6/2019 8:41 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List wrote:
> > If either of you have the Factory build file the cable length is
> > usually specified in the parts checklist (the computer printout).
> >
> > Ken H.
> >
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Broken shift cable - Now build file

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 Ken, thank I will follow up on this and let the group know.  How did you get 
the files? Did you have to go get them? thanks
 
Richard
 
Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
-Original Message-
From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Ken Heaton 
Sent: Wed, Mar 6, 2019 3:49 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Broken shift cable - Now build file

Hi Richard,
I didn't ask but they may have some more files if they found the ones they sold 
me.  My guess is they are stored somewhere where it is inconvenient to go 
looking through them, to find just one, so they don't bother, but that is just 
a guess. I assume as I was willing to take a bunch at once, and was willing to 
pay for them, they looked to see what they had in storage.  I did tell him if 
they found more I'd buy them but never did get any more.
Ken H.
On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 15:31, Richard Bush via CnC-List  
wrote:

 Ken, that is a great find: a couple of years ago I was told that Southshore 
had destroyed all of the build files; did you get a sense that they may still 
have files other than the 37/40s you bought?

Richard
 s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, MIle 596: 
Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
-Original Message-
From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Ken Heaton 
Sent: Wed, Mar 6, 2019 1:45 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Broken shift cable - Now build file

Southshore still had some of the files last year, probably buried in deep 
storage somewhere.  I asked him to dig out all he could find for the C&C 37/40 
series and he found quite a few (almost 40 of them) and sold them to me.
For anyone who has a 37/40 (or a 40' from 1993 to 1995) and is interested, any 
boat listed on this page with a YES in the column 'Build File" I have the file 
for.  You can have yours if you want it for a $40.00 donation to Stu.
https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.com/p/a-list-of-known-c-3740-boat-name.html
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/p/salazar.html
On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 09:59, schiller via CnC-List  
wrote:

Speaking of build files, if anyone knows who has C&C 35-1 Hull number 
71, I have the build file for it.  I tried to get the build file for our 
Redwing 35 (Hull #7) way back when and was sent hull #71 instead.  If 
anyone wants it, let me know.

I wish the build files were still available from South Shore.  I would 
like to find the build file for our 35-3 (#028).

Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Crosswinds Marine, Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC
2 weeks until spring with a fresh half foot of new snow.

On 3/6/2019 8:41 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List wrote:
> If either of you have the Factory build file the cable length is 
> usually specified in the parts checklist (the computer printout).
>
> Ken H.
>


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Re: Stus-List Shift w

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Mine doesn't start turning once it is feathered but it is quite difficult
to get it out of reverse once it is shifted there with the engine off, so
we leave it in reverse.  With the prop feathered there is no turning force
so no damage is reasonably possible.

Ken H.

On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 17:00, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have always found in most boat that just putting it in reverse (engine
> off, of course) will lock the shaft enough for the prop to feather, and
> then put in neutral. I don’t think they go back to rotating after
> feathering.
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C&C 39 Erie, PA
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Marek
> Dziedzic via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 06, 2019 3:32 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Marek Dziedzic
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Shift w
>
>
>
> Maybe this is a reason why Hurth says that you should not leave it in
> reverse (or in forward). The transmission should be always in neutral.
> There was even a bulletin saying that if you leave it in reverse, the
> warranty would be voided. Of course, none of our boats have any warranty
> (:-)
>
>
>
> Marek
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Ken
> Heaton via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 6, 2019 13:53
> *To:* cnc-list 
> *Cc:* Ken Heaton 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Shift w
>
>
>
> We also put our boat in reverse to stop the prop spinning while sailing.
> It is a feathering prop but it doesn't always feather and stop unless we do
> put it in reverse.  This is usually some time after we shut the engine down
> and then notice a slight vibration from the spinning prop.
>
>
>
> It is then very hard to get it out of reverse unless we start the engine
> so the engine get started in reverse frequently, at idle, them quickly
> shifted to neutral.
>
>
>
> Ken H.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 14:44, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Dan, I’ll let you know where and how when pull the old one.
>
> May be awhile as cold and snowing.
>
>
>
> Another question. My broken cable is self inflicted.  While sailing in
> heavy winds I tried to tried to shift from reverse to neutral. Because it
> did not want to shift, I applied a lot of pressure.  That broke the cable.
> What caused the transmission to bind up?  I assumed the prop was not
> spinning while in reverse.
>
>
>
> Fred Hazzard
>
> S/V Fury
>
> C&C 44
>
> Portland Or
>
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Re: Stus-List Shift w

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

I have always found in most boat that just putting it in reverse (engine off, 
of course) will lock the shaft enough for the prop to feather, and then put in 
neutral. I don’t think they go back to rotating after feathering.

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 Erie, PA

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2019 3:32 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic
Subject: Re: Stus-List Shift w

 

Maybe this is a reason why Hurth says that you should not leave it in reverse 
(or in forward). The transmission should be always in neutral. There was even a 
bulletin saying that if you leave it in reverse, the warranty would be voided. 
Of course, none of our boats have any warranty (:-)

 

Marek

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Ken Heaton via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 13:53
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Ken Heaton 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Shift w

 

We also put our boat in reverse to stop the prop spinning while sailing.  It is 
a feathering prop but it doesn't always feather and stop unless we do put it in 
reverse.  This is usually some time after we shut the engine down and then 
notice a slight vibration from the spinning prop.

 

It is then very hard to get it out of reverse unless we start the engine so the 
engine get started in reverse frequently, at idle, them quickly shifted to 
neutral.

 

Ken H.

 

On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 14:44, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List  
wrote:

Dan, I’ll let you know where and how when pull the old one. 

May be awhile as cold and snowing. 

 

Another question. My broken cable is self inflicted.  While sailing in heavy 
winds I tried to tried to shift from reverse to neutral. Because it did not 
want to shift, I applied a lot of pressure.  That broke the cable.  What caused 
the transmission to bind up?  I assumed the prop was not spinning while in 
reverse. 

 

Fred Hazzard 

S/V Fury

C&C 44

Portland Or 

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Re: Stus-List Broken shift cable - Now build file

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Hi Richard,

I didn't ask but they may have some more files if they found the ones they
sold me.  My guess is they are stored somewhere where it is inconvenient to
go looking through them, to find just one, so they don't bother, but that
is just a guess. I assume as I was willing to take a bunch at once, and was
willing to pay for them, they looked to see what they had in storage.  I
did tell him if they found more I'd buy them but never did get any more.

Ken H.

On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 15:31, Richard Bush via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Ken, that is a great find: a couple of years ago I was told that
> Southshore had destroyed all of the build files; did you get a sense that
> they may still have files other than the 37/40s you bought?
>
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, MIle 596:
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list 
> Cc: Ken Heaton 
> Sent: Wed, Mar 6, 2019 1:45 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Broken shift cable - Now build file
>
> Southshore still had some of the files last year, probably buried in deep
> storage somewhere.  I asked him to dig out all he could find for the C&C
> 37/40 series and he found quite a few (almost 40 of them) and sold them to
> me.
>
> For anyone who has a 37/40 (or a 40' from 1993 to 1995) and is interested,
> any boat listed on this page with a YES in the column 'Build File" I have
> the file for.  You can have yours if you want it for a $40.00 donation to
> Stu.
>
> https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.com/p/a-list-of-known-c-3740-boat-name.html
>
> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
> C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
>
> https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/p/salazar.html
>
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 09:59, schiller via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Speaking of build files, if anyone knows who has C&C 35-1 Hull number
> 71, I have the build file for it.  I tried to get the build file for our
> Redwing 35 (Hull #7) way back when and was sent hull #71 instead.  If
> anyone wants it, let me know.
>
> I wish the build files were still available from South Shore.  I would
> like to find the build file for our 35-3 (#028).
>
> Neil Schiller
> 1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
> Crosswinds Marine, Whitehall, Michigan
> WLYC
> 2 weeks until spring with a fresh half foot of new snow.
>
> On 3/6/2019 8:41 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List wrote:
> > If either of you have the Factory build file the cable length is
> > usually specified in the parts checklist (the computer printout).
> >
> > Ken H.
> >
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Shift w

[bwhitmore via CnC-List]

Actually, for our Yanmar 3JH2E, the mfr specifically states it should be left 
in forward, while other transmissions should be put in reverse.  I am unaware 
of any mfr that specifies leaving it in neutral.Sent from my Verizon, Samsung 
Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 Date: 3/6/19  3:31 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Shift w 

Maybe this is a reason why Hurth says that you should not leave it in reverse 
(or in forward). The transmission should be always in neutral. There was even a 
bulletin saying that if you leave it
 in reverse, the warranty would be voided. Of course, none of our boats have 
any warranty (:-)
 
Marek
 
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On Behalf Of Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 13:53
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Ken Heaton 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Shift w
 

We also put our boat in reverse to stop the prop spinning while sailing.  It is 
a feathering prop but it doesn't always feather and stop unless we do put it in 
reverse.  This is usually some time after we shut the engine down and then 
notice
 a slight vibration from the spinning prop.

 


It is then very hard to get it out of reverse unless we start the engine so the 
engine get started in reverse frequently, at idle, them quickly shifted to 
neutral.


 


Ken H.


 


On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 14:44, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List  
wrote:



Dan, I’ll let you know where and how when pull the old one. 


May be awhile as cold and snowing. 


 


Another question. My broken cable is self inflicted.  While sailing in heavy 
winds I tried to tried to shift from reverse to neutral. Because it did not 
want to shift, I applied a lot of pressure.  That broke the cable.  What caused 
the
 transmission to bind up?  I assumed the prop was not spinning while in 
reverse. 


 


Fred Hazzard 


S/V Fury


C&C 44


Portland Or 

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Re: Stus-List Shift w

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Maybe this is a reason why Hurth says that you should not leave it in reverse 
(or in forward). The transmission should be always in neutral. There was even a 
bulletin saying that if you leave it in reverse, the warranty would be voided. 
Of course, none of our boats have any warranty (:-)

Marek

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Ken Heaton via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 13:53
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Ken Heaton 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Shift w

We also put our boat in reverse to stop the prop spinning while sailing.  It is 
a feathering prop but it doesn't always feather and stop unless we do put it in 
reverse.  This is usually some time after we shut the engine down and then 
notice a slight vibration from the spinning prop.

It is then very hard to get it out of reverse unless we start the engine so the 
engine get started in reverse frequently, at idle, them quickly shifted to 
neutral.

Ken H.

On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 14:44, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Dan, I’ll let you know where and how when pull the old one.
May be awhile as cold and snowing.

Another question. My broken cable is self inflicted.  While sailing in heavy 
winds I tried to tried to shift from reverse to neutral. Because it did not 
want to shift, I applied a lot of pressure.  That broke the cable.  What caused 
the transmission to bind up?  I assumed the prop was not spinning while in 
reverse.

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C&C 44
Portland Or
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Re: Stus-List Broken shift cable - Now build file

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 Ken, that is a great find: a couple of years ago I was told that Southshore 
had destroyed all of the build files; did you get a sense that they may still 
have files other than the 37/40s you bought?

Richard
 s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, MIle 596: 
Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
-Original Message-
From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Ken Heaton 
Sent: Wed, Mar 6, 2019 1:45 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Broken shift cable - Now build file

Southshore still had some of the files last year, probably buried in deep 
storage somewhere.  I asked him to dig out all he could find for the C&C 37/40 
series and he found quite a few (almost 40 of them) and sold them to me.
For anyone who has a 37/40 (or a 40' from 1993 to 1995) and is interested, any 
boat listed on this page with a YES in the column 'Build File" I have the file 
for.  You can have yours if you want it for a $40.00 donation to Stu.
https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.com/p/a-list-of-known-c-3740-boat-name.html
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/p/salazar.html
On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 09:59, schiller via CnC-List  
wrote:

Speaking of build files, if anyone knows who has C&C 35-1 Hull number 
71, I have the build file for it.  I tried to get the build file for our 
Redwing 35 (Hull #7) way back when and was sent hull #71 instead.  If 
anyone wants it, let me know.

I wish the build files were still available from South Shore.  I would 
like to find the build file for our 35-3 (#028).

Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Crosswinds Marine, Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC
2 weeks until spring with a fresh half foot of new snow.

On 3/6/2019 8:41 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List wrote:
> If either of you have the Factory build file the cable length is 
> usually specified in the parts checklist (the computer printout).
>
> Ken H.
>


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Re: Stus-List Shift w

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

We also put our boat in reverse to stop the prop spinning while sailing.
It is a feathering prop but it doesn't always feather and stop unless we do
put it in reverse.  This is usually some time after we shut the engine down
and then notice a slight vibration from the spinning prop.

It is then very hard to get it out of reverse unless we start the engine so
the engine get started in reverse frequently, at idle, them quickly shifted
to neutral.

Ken H.

On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 14:44, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Dan, I’ll let you know where and how when pull the old one.
> May be awhile as cold and snowing.
>
> Another question. My broken cable is self inflicted.  While sailing in
> heavy winds I tried to tried to shift from reverse to neutral. Because it
> did not want to shift, I applied a lot of pressure.  That broke the cable.
> What caused the transmission to bind up?  I assumed the prop was not
> spinning while in reverse.
>
> Fred Hazzard
> S/V Fury
> C&C 44
> Portland Or
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Re: Stus-List Broken Shift Cable C&C 44

[Jonathan Boocock via CnC-List]

Fred,
I replaced the throttle and shift cables on my C&C 44 in 2016 after the
shift cable broke.
The Edson information I received with the boat suggested that I needed a 64
series (5/16" ends)  gear shift cable and a 33 series throttle cable.(10-32
ends).
I couldn't get Teleflex 64 series stuff so I ordered a Teleflex 3300, 22'
with 10-32 ends and Teleflex 43 series, 23' with 1/4-28 ends.

It turned out that both cables were 33 series with 10-32 end fittings.
Both the 22' and 23' cables worked fine so somethng in that range will work.
I didn't have a problem running the cables under the single fuel tank I
have in the aft cabin. It sounds like your configuration may be different
with 2 fuel tanks but you should be able to slide it alongside the exhaust
hose which keeps the fuel tanks up above the hull.
I ended up using the 43 Series cable assuming that it will be less likely
to fail in the future but had to modify the Edson end fitting in the
pedestal.
Jon

C&C 44
Mor's Childs Play
Kingston
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Re: Stus-List Broken shift cable - Now build file

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Southshore still had some of the files last year, probably buried in deep
storage somewhere.  I asked him to dig out all he could find for the C&C
37/40 series and he found quite a few (almost 40 of them) and sold them to
me.

For anyone who has a 37/40 (or a 40' from 1993 to 1995) and is interested,
any boat listed on this page with a YES in the column 'Build File" I have
the file for.  You can have yours if you want it for a $40.00 donation to
Stu.

https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.com/p/a-list-of-known-c-3740-boat-name.html

Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia

https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/p/salazar.html

On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 09:59, schiller via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Speaking of build files, if anyone knows who has C&C 35-1 Hull number
> 71, I have the build file for it.  I tried to get the build file for our
> Redwing 35 (Hull #7) way back when and was sent hull #71 instead.  If
> anyone wants it, let me know.
>
> I wish the build files were still available from South Shore.  I would
> like to find the build file for our 35-3 (#028).
>
> Neil Schiller
> 1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
> Crosswinds Marine, Whitehall, Michigan
> WLYC
> 2 weeks until spring with a fresh half foot of new snow.
>
> On 3/6/2019 8:41 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List wrote:
> > If either of you have the Factory build file the cable length is
> > usually specified in the parts checklist (the computer printout).
> >
> > Ken H.
> >
>
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[Fred Hazzard via CnC-List]

Dan, I’ll let you know where and how when pull the old one.
May be awhile as cold and snowing.

Another question. My broken cable is self inflicted.  While sailing in
heavy winds I tried to tried to shift from reverse to neutral. Because it
did not want to shift, I applied a lot of pressure.  That broke the cable.
What caused the transmission to bind up?  I assumed the prop was not
spinning while in reverse.

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C&C 44
Portland Or
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Stus-List Broken shift cable

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Might as well change the throttle cable too.not a hard task, but, as long 
as you have to dissemble the binnacle...These may be original cables...I did it 
on my LF38.  The cables ran up thru the ss binnacle supports.  Good 
luck!Spencer Johnson '84 LF38 "Alegria" #165Racine, WI / Mount Prospect,  IL___

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Re: Stus-List Broken shift cable - Now build file

[schiller via CnC-List]

Just looked and the build file is for Hull #70 not #71.  It was 
delivered to Associated Yachts in Essex, Connecticut for a Dr. Pepkowitz 
in July 1971.  Order date was April 1971.


Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Crosswinds Marine, Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 3/6/2019 8:58 AM, schiller via CnC-List wrote:
Speaking of build files, if anyone knows who has C&C 35-1 Hull number 
71, I have the build file for it.  I tried to get the build file for 
our Redwing 35 (Hull #7) way back when and was sent hull #71 instead.  
If anyone wants it, let me know.


I wish the build files were still available from South Shore.  I would 
like to find the build file for our 35-3 (#028).


Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Crosswinds Marine, Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC
2 weeks until spring with a fresh half foot of new snow.

On 3/6/2019 8:41 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List wrote:
If either of you have the Factory build file the cable length is 
usually specified in the parts checklist (the computer printout).


Ken H.




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Re: Stus-List Broken shift cable - Now build file

[schiller via CnC-List]

Speaking of build files, if anyone knows who has C&C 35-1 Hull number 
71, I have the build file for it.  I tried to get the build file for our 
Redwing 35 (Hull #7) way back when and was sent hull #71 instead.  If 
anyone wants it, let me know.


I wish the build files were still available from South Shore.  I would 
like to find the build file for our 35-3 (#028).


Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Crosswinds Marine, Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC
2 weeks until spring with a fresh half foot of new snow.

On 3/6/2019 8:41 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List wrote:
If either of you have the Factory build file the cable length is 
usually specified in the parts checklist (the computer printout).


Ken H.




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[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

If either of you have the Factory build file the cable length is usually
specified in the parts checklist (the computer printout).

Ken H.

On Wednesday, 6 March 2019, Dan via CnC-List  wrote:
> Hi Fred,
> This is a weird co-incidence... I recently melted mine by accident
against the exhaust pipe on my espar furnace. Melted the cable housing
fusing it to the cable and making it pretty much useless. Please let me
know where you source the new cable from and I'll order one too! For
length, it really depends how it's run. My 44 only has one fuel tank under
the aft double berth, then under the floor to the engine. I'm probably
going to run a longer cable this time just to keep it off the furnace
exhaust. Length probably doesn't matter as long as the housing is cut the
right length to allow for the cable inside to move it's full range.
> Dan
> Breakaweigh
> C&C44
> Halifax, NS
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 6:33 PM Fred Hazzard via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sunday the shift cable on my 44 broke. Are there any 44 owners out who
have replaced this cable?
>> My cable is a red Morse cable.
>> My question is; how long is it?
>> I would like any suggestions on how to fish a new cable in.  The cable
comes down from the binacle runs under 2 fuel tanks and floorboards to the
engine.
>> Thanks
>> Fred Hazzard
>> S/V Fury
>> C&C 44
>> Portland Or
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Re: Stus-List Autopilot tiller arm on LF38 *without* bolting

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Hi Patrick,

Interesting problem here. Thinking a little 
outside the box... okay, maybe more than a little.


Anyone given thought to using the autopilot drive 
to drive the cable instead of the tiller arm? 
Zero mods required to the existing quadrant assembly.


2 of these in opposition connected by S/S 
plate(s), which the drive is bolted to, might be 
feasible if the drive output is less than a ton.

https://www.amazon.ca/Blesiya-Steel-Tensioning-Pulling-25-70/dp/B07JYCVGQB?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duc12-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B07JYCVGQB

Or a number of these in series all bolted to a plate may work also
https://www.amazon.ca/Amanaote-Stainless-Steel-Standard-Double/dp/B00PVSPUUG?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duc12-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00PVSPUUG

A pessimist would say that the autopilot will 
becomes useless if the cable system breaks.


And the optimist would counter, "Why would you 
build a system which you expect to fail?"


Cheers, Russ
ex-Sweet 35 mk-1



At 04:21 PM 3/5/2019, you wrote:

Hi Paul,Â
Thanks for the ideas, lots of good ones!

> you wrote > * Edson sells a different radial 
drive which has a shorter height.  Replacing 
an existing with one of these would be costly 
but it could free up shaft space for the tiller 
arm.  One needs to check the specs for the 
shorter radials and see if that option is feasible.  Â


This is one idea Edson engineering suggested to 
me today actually!  Alden got back to me (after 
speaking with engineering) and has been very 
helpful. It would be a good deal of work 
swapping out the radial, and there are some 
subtle impacts to consider (I can't change the 
wire track height too much because if it causes 
steering cable chafe that will require shimming 
the idlers/sheaves). It also might require extending the rudder stop post.Â


Flipping the existing offset-disc radial upside 
down doesn't help because it would still consume 
the same amount of rudder shaft space (nearly 
all of it, leaving no room for a standard tiller arm).Â


Edson's other idea was to move the existing 
radial down by 1.75", bringing the concave 
portion of the disc closer to the rudder stock 
tube and freeing up enough space for the 1 5/8" 
tiller arm above the radial. This definitely 
requires idler/sheave modification though and 
rudder stop modification. In addition it's a 
very tight fit to the point where it might not 
work (1/8" clearance on cockpit floor and aft stern bulkhead).Â


Your 3rd idea is quite interesting, no one has 
thought of reusing the radial drive hub 
thrubolts. The hub is contoured and has a ridge, 
so it would have to be quite a custom part to get a good fit.Â


I've ruled out option B from my original email 
(Jefa quadrant with integrated tiller arm) 
because it turns out it too would require 
idler/sheave adjustments in addition to a custom 
rudder stop - basically complete steering system redesign.


I'm focusing on option A now, which was to have 
a machine shop make an "offset tiller arm" or 
"drop" tiller arm. I discovered the term "offset 
tiller arm" when I found Buck Algonquin makes 
them (but not in the right size for our boat, 
and they're bronze castings so they can't do a 
custom one - they do 1000+ unit production runs). Â

https://www.deepblueyachtsupply.com/89112-89000-series-offset-tiller-arm

But having a machine shop make my own offset 
tiller arm seems doable, as long as I can find a 
machine shop willing to do it.Â


-Patrick
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[Dan via CnC-List]

Hi Fred,

This is a weird co-incidence... I recently melted mine by accident against
the exhaust pipe on my espar furnace. Melted the cable housing fusing it to
the cable and making it pretty much useless. Please let me know where you
source the new cable from and I'll order one too! For length, it really
depends how it's run. My 44 only has one fuel tank under the aft double
berth, then under the floor to the engine. I'm probably going to run a
longer cable this time just to keep it off the furnace exhaust. Length
probably doesn't matter as long as the housing is cut the right length to
allow for the cable inside to move it's full range.

Dan
Breakaweigh
C&C44
Halifax, NS

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 6:33 PM Fred Hazzard via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Sunday the shift cable on my 44 broke. Are there any 44 owners out who
> have replaced this cable?
> My cable is a red Morse cable.
> My question is; how long is it?
> I would like any suggestions on how to fish a new cable in.  The cable
> comes down from the binacle runs under 2 fuel tanks and floorboards to the
> engine.
>
> Thanks
> Fred Hazzard
> S/V Fury
> C&C 44
> Portland Or
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