Re: Stus-List wiring advice

2019-07-11 Thread ssjohnson via CnC-List 
red an OK way to set up mast wiring in a 
wet area?Thanks- DaveS/V Aries1990 C 34+New London, 
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 2Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 12:40:03 +From: "Della Barba, Joe" 
To: "'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'" 
Subject: Stus-List Wiring adviceMessage-ID: 
<9cd41f73b8c34b498eaccd2a5e863...@ssa.gov>Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset="utf-8"Is it oil sensing? Some of the oil sensing ones are IMHO too 
sensitive and won?t ever run the pump unless the bilge water is drinking water 
clean.JoeCoquinaFrom: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf 
Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-ListSent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 8:16 AMTo: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: Hoyt, Mike Subject: [EXTERNAL] 
Re: Stus-List Wiring adviceI second Water Witch.  We switched to that 4 seasons 
ago and it has worked perfectly.The only thing to watch out for is wet slime 
buildup on the switch will cause it to be fooled and run.  Quick wipe off and 
good for several more months. Installation is simpler than a traditional float 
switch and it is not constantly testing like an automatic bilge 
pump.MikePersistenceHalifax, NSFrom: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of ALAN BERGEN via 
CnC-ListSent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 8:48 PMTo: C: ALAN BERGENSubject: 
Re: Stus-List Wiring adviceI have been using an electronic switch (Water 
Witch), instead of a float switch, for more than five years, after two float 
switches failed. Here's the link for Defender Industries: 
https://search.defender.com/?expression=Water%20Witch<https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=88226c1a-d4b424ba-8822456d-0cc47adca788-a37175038dcbc248=1=https%3A%2F%2Fsearch.defender.com%2F%3Fexpression%3DWater%2520Witch>Alan
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 3Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 12:42:35 +From: "Hoyt, Mike" 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wiring adviceMessage-ID: 
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text/plain; charset="utf-8"No.  Not oil sensing.  Just that when covered in a 
slime buildup and sailing the switch stays wetter longer while tacking from the 
water sloshing in bilge and pump runs more than it should.From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via 
CnC-ListSent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 9:40 AMTo: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'Cc: 
Della Barba, JoeSubject: Stus-List Wiring adviceIs it oil sensing? Some of the 
oil sensing ones are IMHO too sensitive and won?t ever run the pump unless the 
bilge water is drinking water clean.JoeCoquinaFrom: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via 
CnC-ListSent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 8:16 AMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: Hoyt, 
Mike Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Wiring adviceI 
second Water Witch.  We switched to that 4 seasons ago and it has worked 
perfectly.The only thing to watch out for is wet slime buildup on the switch 
will cause it to be fooled and run

Re: Stus-List keel bolt nut

2019-07-11 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List 
I wanted to report back on finishing this job.  It turns out that the existing 
wire went from a threaded hole in the aluminum mast base to a threaded hole in 
the top of the keep bolt mount.  So all I had to do was loosen both bolts 
(surprisingly, both came off easily), add the new 4G wire and put the bolts 
back in.  Except for laying on my stomach on the ribs of the floor, trying to 
reach underneath to access it all, it was one of the easier jobs I have had to 
do.  Nice design either by C or the PO.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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Re: Stus-List Wiring advice

2019-07-11 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
No.  Not oil sensing.  Just that when covered in a slime buildup and sailing 
the switch stays wetter longer while tacking from the water sloshing in bilge 
and pump runs more than it should.

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Joe via CnC-List
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Subject: Stus-List Wiring advice

Is it oil sensing? Some of the oil sensing ones are IMHO too sensitive and 
won’t ever run the pump unless the bilge water is drinking water clean.
Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 8:16 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Wiring advice

I second Water Witch.  We switched to that 4 seasons ago and it has worked 
perfectly.

The only thing to watch out for is wet slime buildup on the switch will cause 
it to be fooled and run.  Quick wipe off and good for several more months. 
Installation is simpler than a traditional float switch and it is not 
constantly testing like an automatic bilge pump.

Mike

Persistence
Halifax, NS

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of ALAN BERGEN 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 8:48 PM
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Cc: ALAN BERGEN
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wiring advice

I have been using an electronic switch (Water Witch), instead of a float 
switch, for more than five years, after two float switches failed. Here's the 
link for Defender Industries: 
https://search.defender.com/?expression=Water%20Witch

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR
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Stus-List Wiring advice

2019-07-11 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
Is it oil sensing? Some of the oil sensing ones are IMHO too sensitive and 
won’t ever run the pump unless the bilge water is drinking water clean.
Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 8:16 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Wiring advice

I second Water Witch.  We switched to that 4 seasons ago and it has worked 
perfectly.

The only thing to watch out for is wet slime buildup on the switch will cause 
it to be fooled and run.  Quick wipe off and good for several more months. 
Installation is simpler than a traditional float switch and it is not 
constantly testing like an automatic bilge pump.

Mike

Persistence
Halifax, NS

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of ALAN BERGEN 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 8:48 PM
To: C
Cc: ALAN BERGEN
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wiring advice

I have been using an electronic switch (Water Witch), instead of a float 
switch, for more than five years, after two float switches failed. Here's the 
link for Defender Industries: 
https://search.defender.com/?expression=Water%20Witch

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR
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Re: Stus-List Wiring advice

2019-07-11 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
I second Water Witch.  We switched to that 4 seasons ago and it has worked 
perfectly.

The only thing to watch out for is wet slime buildup on the switch will cause 
it to be fooled and run.  Quick wipe off and good for several more months. 
Installation is simpler than a traditional float switch and it is not 
constantly testing like an automatic bilge pump.

Mike

Persistence
Halifax, NS

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of ALAN BERGEN 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 8:48 PM
To: C
Cc: ALAN BERGEN
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wiring advice

I have been using an electronic switch (Water Witch), instead of a float 
switch, for more than five years, after two float switches failed. Here's the 
link for Defender Industries: 
https://search.defender.com/?expression=Water%20Witch

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 3:53 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I might have to check these out. One of my Rule switches is flaky, or there is 
a bad connection somewhere down there. As it's the secondary pump, I've ignored 
it for now, but I plan to tackle it again before our long summer trip in a few 
weeks. I'd love to get a switch that will activate earlier so I can have less 
water down there, and keep it below the lowest keel stud.
--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 5:37 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Another vote for the Ultra Safety Systems bilge switches. They are designed 
with the common (3 way) connections inside the switch. That is, there are 
separate wires for the manual supply, automatic supply and switched power to 
the pump. The negative side also runs through the pump. Each wire comes with an 
adhesive heat shrink butt connector.

No need to join the manual supply, switched supply and pump positive in a 3 way 
connection.

Dennis C.
Touché 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 9, 2019, at 3:46 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I have two questions related to the correct way of doing wiring in a wet area 
(bilge) of the boat.

1.  In the process of wiring in my new high water alarm, I found it convenient 
to split an existing always hot red wire in the bilge area to run both the 
bilge alarm and the emergency bilge pump switch.  I had some 3 way fittings 
from Defender (below) that I have used before which have crimp/heat shrink 
attachment ports.  After connecting them I realized that the center part of the 
fitting is actually not insulated.  This seemed like a bad idea, especially for 
a potentially wet area like the bilge.  I am confused by the logic of a sealed 
connector that has an unsealed junction exposed.   In the past I used a larger 
crimp/shrink butt connector and stuck two wires into one end and now that seems 
like a better solution.
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2. There is also an open connector block for all the mast wiring in the same 
area of the bilge, so high water would get to that area at a similar time as 
the alarm or emergency switch.  So is that considered an OK way to set up mast 
wiring in a wet area?

Thanks- Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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