Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 162, Issue 33

[Paul via CnC-List]

Thanks for posting the video.  I wish everyone had something like that.  I
guess I don't get out much and seeing the other sister ships, layout,
personalized features, improvements, etc are very interesting and thought
provoking.  

Paul Hood
C&C34 '81

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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 12:20:23 -0400
From: Edd Schillay 
To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Subject: Stus-List Interior and Exterior "Tours" of the Starship
Enterprise
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Listers,

As many of you know, I?m having a fellow C&C Lister captain and his crew
deliver the Enterprise to her new home in Florida in a few weeks. I thought
it may be useful for them to see an interior and exterior tour of the boat
so they can acquaint themselves with everything before stepping on board. 

Here are the videos:
Interior: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEl5qrJDMD0

Exterior: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd0RfWZM7OM&t=
 

I apologize for the sound quality, shakiness, and length, but if you do
watch them, I?d appreciate any comments or suggestions on improvements,
including better places to store items.


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 



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Stus-List Fwd: Suspend

[Mike Taylor via CnC-List]

Hi Stu

Would you please reinstate my account.  I would like to start receiving emails 
again.

Thanks 
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Stus-List Temp Gauge diagram or replacement

[Christian Planton via CnC-List]

My heat gauge does not work but it is also inside on the interior bulkhead.
I am looking to replace it and move it were I can see it in the cockpit. It
is on a Yanmar 2GM20F

First I would like to see a diagram of the original to see if it is just
wired incorrectly.

Second any suggestions on a replacement?

Thank you
Christian
C&C 34 1980

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Re: Stus-List C&C33 Mark II Deck Creaking

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

My friend's 1973 C&C 35 Mk.1 has one on the starboard side deck near the
shrouds as Dennis described.

Ken H.

On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 at 19:49, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Neil,
>
> You may well have an "oopstang" and just never noticed it.  The deck plate
> should be on the starboard side deck near the shrouds.  I'll try to get
> pictures later in the week.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 5:11 PM Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Dennis,
>>
>> You have me interested, as I don't think my 35-1 has any type of
>> brackets, and the bulkhead does squeak in any significant seaway.  I'd be
>> quite interested in pictures.  (I was told by a former 35-1 owner the
>> solution was beeswax on the bulkhead.)
>>
>> Neil Gallagher
>> Weatherly, 35-1
>> Glen Cove, NY
>>
>> On 7/22/2019 4:42 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
>>
>> OK, I'm taking a flyer here because I'm not familiar with the 33-2.  Does
>> it have an "oopstang"?  That's the name a long missing lister (Wally) gave
>> to a bracket assembly which holds the bulkhead to the deck.  Look for a
>> beveled metal piece on the deck which measures about 1" x 2" with a slotted
>> flat head fastener.  The fastener holds an L-shaped bracket which resembles
>> a chain plate which is attached to the bulkhead.
>>
>> If your boat has one, try tightening the fasteners for this assembly.
>>
>> On my 35-1, the top of the bulkhead is held by this assembly.  To the
>> best of my knowledge, the top of the bulkhead floats except for this
>> bracket.  So it may be creaking just with a small movement.
>>
>> Advise us what you find.  I plan to be on Touche' later this week, I'll
>> look more closely at it and try to grab some pictures.
>>
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 2:52 PM Andrew Walther via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anybody have any suggestions / comments on a rather significant
>>> creaking near starboard bulkhead on C&C33 Mark II?  The boat is overall in
>>> very good shape but I did notice creaking when walking on the deck slightly
>>> forward of the bulkhead whilst at dock.  We were out in heavy seas (25
>>> knots) on our last trip reaching through waves and the creaking was quite
>>> noticeable down below.  There are no soft spots and from visual and audible
>>> inspections I don’t see any signs of delamination. Also no signs of water
>>> ingress.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m thinking that the joint between the bulkhead and deck may have come
>>> loose and was wondering if anybody has experienced the same, and would be
>>> curious to hear any suggestions on how to remedy the issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Stus-List The "oopstang" or deck tie down brackets - pics

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Got to boat and took pics of the deck tie downs ("oopstngs").

This pic shows the two tie down plates on deck.  The location corresponds
to the forward and aft bulkheads of the starboard side hanging locker.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-5OxL14w1dKN8fI251y8St2gRxSgZTF6/view?usp=drivesdk

Closeup of one of the plates.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-2IpySrKOwYvoDlqE1bLMCskCg-bEBpl/view?usp=drivesdk

Forward tie down bracket inside locker.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-28TGUSEiFHeXLbdvBr8qPYVrZZKxDYT/view?usp=drivesdk

Aft tie down bracket inside locker.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I1zhWdhXU7fF7-t6hRHhBU7oTQxk7_p6/view?usp=drivesdk

As Rob Ball said, the bulkheads are floating.  They are held by the tie
down brackets and fit into a groove in the headliner.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List The "oopstang" or deck tie down brackets - pics

[Edward Levert via CnC-List]

I removed the “oopstang” mounted to the main bulkhead starboard side in the 
head in order to reseal. On reinstallation it appears that the deck dropped as 
when bolted to the bulkhead in the same holes, the deck plate of the oopstang 
could not be brought down to become flat on the deck. Perhaps 1/4 in gap.

Ed Levert
1981 C&C 34
Briar Patch

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> On Jul 24, 2019, at 5:33 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Got to boat and took pics of the deck tie downs ("oopstngs").
> 
> This pic shows the two tie down plates on deck.  The location corresponds to 
> the forward and aft bulkheads of the starboard side hanging locker.
> 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-5OxL14w1dKN8fI251y8St2gRxSgZTF6/view?usp=drivesdk
> 
> Closeup of one of the plates.
> 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-2IpySrKOwYvoDlqE1bLMCskCg-bEBpl/view?usp=drivesdk
> 
> Forward tie down bracket inside locker.
> 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-28TGUSEiFHeXLbdvBr8qPYVrZZKxDYT/view?usp=drivesdk
> 
> Aft tie down bracket inside locker.
> 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I1zhWdhXU7fF7-t6hRHhBU7oTQxk7_p6/view?usp=drivesdk
> 
> As Rob Ball said, the bulkheads are floating.  They are held by the tie down 
> brackets and fit into a groove in the headliner.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List The "oopstang" or deck tie down brackets - pics

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Thanks for the photos, these are very helpful. It appears these were
deleted on the 35 mk2, as I can't see any evidence of them ever being in
place (although I will check again now that I know what to look for). Can
anyone with a mk2 confirm if these are present or not?

My starboard bulkheads are pretty tight, but the port side moves a bit,
especially at the hinge post for the head door. I've wondered about just
injecting some kind of sealant at the top of the "post" to dampen the
rattling noise it makes. Although right now, by far the most annoying noise
is from mast wiring. I'm tempted to pull off the deck light partway up the
mast to see if I can reach in and secure the wires to help dampen the
noise. I'm assuming it's wires, although I suppose it could be jib
halyards...

About to leave for 3-4 weeks cruising and I've yet to have a good night's
sleep on board...
--
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shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 3:34 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Got to boat and took pics of the deck tie downs ("oopstngs").
>
> This pic shows the two tie down plates on deck.  The location corresponds
> to the forward and aft bulkheads of the starboard side hanging locker.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-5OxL14w1dKN8fI251y8St2gRxSgZTF6/view?usp=drivesdk
>
> Closeup of one of the plates.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-2IpySrKOwYvoDlqE1bLMCskCg-bEBpl/view?usp=drivesdk
>
> Forward tie down bracket inside locker.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-28TGUSEiFHeXLbdvBr8qPYVrZZKxDYT/view?usp=drivesdk
>
> Aft tie down bracket inside locker.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I1zhWdhXU7fF7-t6hRHhBU7oTQxk7_p6/view?usp=drivesdk
>
> As Rob Ball said, the bulkheads are floating.  They are held by the tie
> down brackets and fit into a groove in the headliner.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List The "oopstang" or deck tie down brackets - pics

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Sleeping on board any boat in our size range is simply a noisy effort.  My
best advice is to get used to it.  You might try ear plugs and a fan for
"white noise".

When it's not the halyard slap, it's the wind humming in the rigging.  Once
you overcome those it's the waves slapping on the hull, the fridge
compressor starting and stopping, the bilge pump or water pressure pump or
vac-flush picking up.  Then if you're at anchor the motion of the boat
surging against the rode will make you wonder if you are dragging - and
that thought will certainly keep you awake.  Get all of those taken care of
and then your partner snores or has to pee in the middle of the night.
Good luck.

When I moved into my new house 15 years ago, everything made a new and
different sound.  We had a fridge that made a funny sound, a sump pump in
the basement, and a condensate pump on the hvac.  Each would start and stop
all through the night and for the first few days or weeks sleep was
challenged.  15 years later I barely even realise that those noises exist.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 8:03 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the photos, these are very helpful. It appears these were
> deleted on the 35 mk2, as I can't see any evidence of them ever being in
> place (although I will check again now that I know what to look for). Can
> anyone with a mk2 confirm if these are present or not?
>
> My starboard bulkheads are pretty tight, but the port side moves a bit,
> especially at the hinge post for the head door. I've wondered about just
> injecting some kind of sealant at the top of the "post" to dampen the
> rattling noise it makes. Although right now, by far the most annoying noise
> is from mast wiring. I'm tempted to pull off the deck light partway up the
> mast to see if I can reach in and secure the wires to help dampen the
> noise. I'm assuming it's wires, although I suppose it could be jib
> halyards...
>
> About to leave for 3-4 weeks cruising and I've yet to have a good night's
> sleep on board...
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 3:34 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Got to boat and took pics of the deck tie downs ("oopstngs").
>>
>> This pic shows the two tie down plates on deck.  The location corresponds
>> to the forward and aft bulkheads of the starboard side hanging locker.
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-5OxL14w1dKN8fI251y8St2gRxSgZTF6/view?usp=drivesdk
>>
>> Closeup of one of the plates.
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-2IpySrKOwYvoDlqE1bLMCskCg-bEBpl/view?usp=drivesdk
>>
>> Forward tie down bracket inside locker.
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-28TGUSEiFHeXLbdvBr8qPYVrZZKxDYT/view?usp=drivesdk
>>
>> Aft tie down bracket inside locker.
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I1zhWdhXU7fF7-t6hRHhBU7oTQxk7_p6/view?usp=drivesdk
>>
>> As Rob Ball said, the bulkheads are floating.  They are held by the tie
>> down brackets and fit into a groove in the headliner.
>>
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List The "oopstang" or deck tie down brackets - pics -boat noise

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Like Josh said, get used to it.  Don't focus on it.  The Admiral and I
sleep well on the boat with halyards slapping, wires whacking, etc.
BUT...one strange unusual noise and we're both instantly awake.

I'm staying on Touche' tonight.  Of course the air conditioner is running
for some of that "white noise".  :)

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


On Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 8:14 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Sleeping on board any boat in our size range is simply a noisy effort.  My
> best advice is to get used to it.  You might try ear plugs and a fan for
> "white noise".
>
>
>
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