Re: Stus-List Edson engineering bulletin on fig 727 engine control

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

Ditto here, please and thank you!
 
 
Richard
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From: John Conklin via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: John Conklin 
Sent: Mon, Jul 6, 2020 10:48 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson engineering bulletin on fig 727 engine control

Yes please would love this document 

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On Jul 6, 2020, at 2:37 PM, Stu via CnC-List  wrote:



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thanks for your offer. Is the bulletin in paper format, PDF, Word .doc or 
something else?  How many pages?  If we can get it into a compatible format 
that the other users can use, it would be great. Let me know and maybe I can 
convert it. Stu From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-ListSent: Monday, July 6, 2020 
2:25 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chuck Gilchrest Subject: Stus-List Edson 
engineering bulletin on fig 727 engine control Hi Stu, I’ve obtained a copy of 
the Edson engine control engineering bulletin for the pedestal mounted unit 
that appears on many  of our 78-83 vintage C&C’s.  The bulletin no longer 
appears on Edson’s website, but from a service standpoint, it may be useful for 
list members and visitors looking to service the engine controls on the boats.  
Unfortunately, Edson no longer offers replacement parts for this controller, 
but it does have good info on assembly and disassembly  for those wishing to 
replace cables, etc. I  don’t have a file share program otherwise I would post 
a link to the list, but if I could send it to you  for the website for general 
consumption, that would perhaps be better.  Let me know how to get it into your 
hands. Thank you, Chuck Gilchrest S/V Half Magic 1983 Landfall 35 Padanaram, MA 
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Re: Stus-List Edson engineering bulletin on fig 727 engine control

[Mike Macdonald via CnC-List]

I would like it as well :)

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> On Jul 6, 2020, at 10:49 PM, John Conklin via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Yes please would love this document 
> 
> John Conklin
> S/V Halcyon
> www.flirtingwithfire.net
> 
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 2:37 PM, Stu via CnC-List  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chuck – thanks for your offer.
>>  
>> Is the bulletin in paper format, PDF, Word .doc or something else?  How many 
>> pages?  If we can get it into a compatible format that the other users can 
>> use, it would be great.
>>  
>> Let me know and maybe I can convert it.
>>  
>> Stu
>>  
>> From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
>> Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 2:25 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Chuck Gilchrest
>> Subject: Stus-List Edson engineering bulletin on fig 727 engine control
>>  
>> Hi Stu,
>> I’ve obtained a copy of the Edson engine control engineering bulletin for 
>> the pedestal mounted unit that appears on many  of our 78-83 vintage C&C’s.  
>> The bulletin no longer appears on Edson’s website, but from a service 
>> standpoint, it may be useful for list members and visitors looking to 
>> service the engine controls on the boats.  Unfortunately, Edson no longer 
>> offers replacement parts for this controller, but it does have good info on 
>> assembly and disassembly  for those wishing to replace cables, etc.
>> I  don’t have a file share program otherwise I would post a link to the 
>> list, but if I could send it to you  for the website for general 
>> consumption, that would perhaps be better.  Let me know how to get it into 
>> your hands.
>> Thank you,
>> Chuck Gilchrest
>> S/V Half Magic
>> 1983 Landfall 35
>> Padanaram, MA
>> (former Edson guy..)
>> ___
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Re: Stus-List Edson engineering bulletin on fig 727 engine control

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

Yes please would love this document

John Conklin
S/V Halcyon
www.flirtingwithfire.net


On Jul 6, 2020, at 2:37 PM, Stu via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Hi Chuck – thanks for your offer.

Is the bulletin in paper format, PDF, Word .doc or something else?  How many 
pages?  If we can get it into a compatible format that the other users can use, 
it would be great.

Let me know and maybe I can convert it.

Stu

From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 2:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest
Subject: Stus-List Edson engineering bulletin on fig 727 engine control

Hi Stu,
I’ve obtained a copy of the Edson engine control engineering bulletin for the 
pedestal mounted unit that appears on many  of our 78-83 vintage C&C’s.  The 
bulletin no longer appears on Edson’s website, but from a service standpoint, 
it may be useful for list members and visitors looking to service the engine 
controls on the boats.  Unfortunately, Edson no longer offers replacement parts 
for this controller, but it does have good info on assembly and disassembly  
for those wishing to replace cables, etc.
I  don’t have a file share program otherwise I would post a link to the list, 
but if I could send it to you  for the website for general consumption, that 
would perhaps be better.  Let me know how to get it into your hands.
Thank you,
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 Landfall 35
Padanaram, MA
(former Edson guy..)


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Re: Stus-List Shift lever

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

Think my cable may go before the lever  Really stiff especially fed revers 
should be an interesting  moment for sure! Not looking forward to that one...

John Conklin
S/V Halcyon
S/V Heartbeat
www.flirtingwithfire.com


On Jul 6, 2020, at 7:22 AM, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
 wrote:


A friend’s circa 1980 36 shift lever broke while docking this weekend.  It was 
an exciting docking maneuver with crew climbing into the engine to manually 
shift but all is well.  Any advice on obtaining a replacement?
Edson system with separate throttle and shift levers each in its own tube 
either side of the pedestal.  Lever is cast aluminum

TIA

John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C&C 34
Noank, CT


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Re: Stus-List Shift lever

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

I Would be very grateful for those  Dave!! If  find em please let me know or 
any other goodies you would like to part with  from my sister ship  :) happy to 
pay/donate/ship...
Thanks again Sir!

John Conklin
S/V Halcyon
S/V Heartbeat
www.flirtingwithfire.com


On Jul 6, 2020, at 9:35 AM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List  
wrote:

 John,

I may still have those style levers from the original 1982 Edson installation 
on our boat. I’ll need to do some “searching” through my sheds filled with junk 
but that is a process I’m already engaged in at the moment.

If found, free.

Regards,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit

On Jul 6, 2020, at 8:31 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

John,
The levers you describe are no longer made by Edson.  It’s conceivable that you 
could 3D print a new one from the existing pieces but chances are good you will 
need to swap out engine controls to either an Edson 870 or 816 control housing. 
 Your cables would get re routed inside the pedestal and you would lose the 
extra tubes.

I believe the control on the boat is currently a model 737 control.
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 Landfall 35
(With the same engine controls)


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Re: Stus-List VHF Radio with Outside Extension Mic

[Jim Reinardy via CnC-List]

I have the older version of this setup, Simrad branded.  I would highly 
recommend it as well, and agree having no cables is wonderful.

Jim Reinardy
C&C 30-2 “Firewater”
Milwaukee, WI

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Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 3:59 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Subject: Re: Stus-List VHF Radio with Outside Extension Mic

I run a B&G V-60 with AIS receiver and an H60 wireless radio for the cockpit. 
Love it, and so nice not having to run a cable to the binnacle!

Glen Dickson
Nomad, C&C 34+
Frenchman’s Bay Yacht Club
Toronto, Ontario Canada

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Re: Stus-List Vhf radio install and sales

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Lee,

Oh, no.  It's definitely captbuy.  It's a play on Captain Bligh but, as
fellow boat owners, I'm sure the listers will all understand "buy".  If you
own a boat, it's buy, buy, buy.

Right now the Admiral is having a tough time talking me out of BUYING a
newer GPS for the navstation.  thegpsstore.com is selling the Garmin 64CV
(not UHD) for $350 with a $200 rebate on a G3 Vision map card.  That would
be a deal at $425 total.  I keep telling her I could sell the old Garmin
182 (which I just snagged on eBay for $150) to help pay for it.  :)

  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 3:54 PM Lee Youngblood via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Dennis,
>
> I never understood your email address till today, but think it should be
> captnsells@,  or maybe that one was taken?
>
> Ha, Lee
>

-- 
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List VHF Radio with Outside Extension Mic

[Glen Dickson via CnC-List]

I run a B&G V-60 with AIS receiver and an H60 wireless radio for the cockpit. 
Love it, and so nice not having to run a cable to the binnacle!

 

Glen Dickson

Nomad, C&C 34+

Frenchman’s Bay Yacht Club

Toronto, Ontario Canada

 

I like my ICOM radio with DSC and RAM mic. I think some of the newer ones have 
builtin AIS.

 

When my cable went bad, I called ICOM, and they said they no longer stock the 
cable. Then I asked whether a later mic cable would work. It turned out that it 
did, and I was able to repair the mic with the new cable. Maybe you can get the 
same results from Standard Horizon.

 

Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

Rose City YC

Portland, OR

 

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 10:39 AM Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Listers,

 

So it appears that the cable and Standard Horizon RAM mic for my VHF radio has 
finally bit the dust and there are no replacement parts available. The main 
base unit, inside the boat is still working beautifully though. 

 

I’m currently torn with the premise of buying a new radio, a new external mic 
and running a new cable, or just leave things as they are and just use a 
portable handheld outside. 

 

Should I decide to go with a new radio and external mic setup, does anyone have 
recommendations? 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Captain of the Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

 







 





 

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Stus-List Vhf radio install and sales

[Lee Youngblood via CnC-List]

Hi Dennis,

I never understood your email address till today, but think it should be 
captnsells@,  or maybe that one was taken?

Ha, Lee

> On Jul 6, 2020, at 1:30 05PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> The VHF radio is the one thing I tend to upgrade frequently.  I think I'm on 
> my 3rd or 4th fixed VHF since 1999.  In my opinion, it's the single most 
> important piece of safety equipment on the boat.  
> 
> I upgraded when Standard Horizon came out with RAM's.  I upgraded when they 
> added AIS.  I didn't mind re-running the RAM cable for each upgrade.   Like 
> others, I like a RAM with the capability of shooting 25 watts into the sky.  
> I also have a Standard Horizon HX870 handheld.  
> 
> I think Touche' has a Standard Horizon Matrix GX2000 right now.  So far I've 
> resisted the urge to upgrade to the GX2400 because Touche' is still a NMEA 
> 0183 boat.
> 
> I do see an advantage to a VHF that has GPS built in.  If your primary GPS 
> dies, you can still send a DSC distress call with location.  
> 
> Used VHF's sell readily on eBay.  I've sold several.  Years ago, one of my 
> clients wanted to upgrade to a VHF with a RAM.  I did so, giving him a credit 
> for his old VHF.  I sold the old, still very nice, VHF to another client, got 
> paid for the install.  I sold the VHF from the second client on eBay.  I made 
> money 3 times and each client got upgraded.  Win, win, win, win!
> 
> As for brand preference, I tend to favor Standard Horizon but really don't 
> have any significant reason for that.  I think ICOM is also a very reliable 
> brand.  I had an ICOM handheld for years and it worked fine.  It, too, got 
> sold on eBay.
> 
> -- 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List VHF Radio with Outside Extension Mic

[schiller via CnC-List]

We went with an West Marine (ICOM) DSC VHF with a WHAM (Wireless Remote 
Mic) for the helm along with a Standard Horizon HX870.  The fixed VHF 
does not have internal GPS but I hooked up our old Garmin 276C GPS to 
feed position to it.  Nice to have backups.  The Garmin powers up and 
shuts down with the radio.  I considered upgrading to a SH with AIS but 
decided the old set up still works fine.  Originally had the radio and 
WHAM on our old Redwing 35 and moved it over to the Mark III.


Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 7/6/2020 1:38 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote:

Listers,

So it appears that the cable and Standard Horizon RAM mic for my VHF 
radio has finally bit the dust and there are no replacement parts 
available. The main base unit, inside the boat is still working 
beautifully though.


I’m currently torn with the premise of buying a new radio, a new 
external mic and running a new cable, or just leave things as they are 
and just use a portable handheld outside.


Should I decide to go with a new radio and external mic setup, does 
anyone have recommendations?


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 






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Re: Stus-List VHF Radio with Outside Extension Mic

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

The VHF radio is the one thing I tend to upgrade frequently.  I think I'm
on my 3rd or 4th fixed VHF since 1999.  In my opinion, it's the single most
important piece of safety equipment on the boat.

I upgraded when Standard Horizon came out with RAM's.  I upgraded when they
added AIS.  I didn't mind re-running the RAM cable for each upgrade.   Like
others, I like a RAM with the capability of shooting 25 watts into the
sky.  I also have a Standard Horizon HX870 handheld.

I think Touche' has a Standard Horizon Matrix GX2000 right now.  So far
I've resisted the urge to upgrade to the GX2400 because Touche' is still a
NMEA 0183 boat.

I do see an advantage to a VHF that has GPS built in.  If your primary GPS
dies, you can still send a DSC distress call with location.

Used VHF's sell readily on eBay.  I've sold several.  Years ago, one of my
clients wanted to upgrade to a VHF with a RAM.  I did so, giving him a
credit for his old VHF.  I sold the old, still very nice, VHF to another
client, got paid for the install.  I sold the VHF from the second client on
eBay.  I made money 3 times and each client got upgraded.  Win, win, win,
win!

As for brand preference, I tend to favor Standard Horizon but really don't
have any significant reason for that.  I think ICOM is also a very reliable
brand.  I had an ICOM handheld for years and it worked fine.  It, too, got
sold on eBay.

-- 
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List VHF Radio with Outside Extension Mic

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

I could never go back to not having A RAM mic in the cockpit, a handheld is a 
PIA.

Having said that, that is exactly  the situation I find myself in now, and  
just the thought of running the cable up to the cabin has me procrastinating. 

Like Alan sez, there is a very good chance the existing cable will work with 
newer mic, or the current cable they sell may work with your older one.  There 
are several on Ebay.

Also, if you get another, S-H just came out with a new radio, GX2400, which I 
just missed getting by a day.

 

Bill Coleman

Erie PA

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay 
via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 1:39 PM
To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Cc: Edd Schillay
Subject: Stus-List VHF Radio with Outside Extension Mic

 

Listers,

 

So it appears that the cable and Standard Horizon RAM mic for my VHF radio has 
finally bit the dust and there are no replacement parts available. The main 
base unit, inside the boat is still working beautifully though. 

 

I’m currently torn with the premise of buying a new radio, a new external mic 
and running a new cable, or just leave things as they are and just use a 
portable handheld outside. 

 

Should I decide to go with a new radio and external mic setup, does anyone have 
recommendations? 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Captain of the Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log  

 








 






 

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Re: Stus-List VHF Radio with Outside Extension Mic

[Thomas Perison via CnC-List]

I like my Standard Horizon Matrix 2200 GX w AIS and Ram mike very much. It 
doesn’t need a remote mounted GPS to work- is installed inside the saloon as 
picks up very well - have used it about 1 yr now and it has performed great !
 
Cheers -

Tom Perison
C&C 29-2
Therapy 
SOLOMONS MD 

Sent from my iPhone 
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Re: Stus-List VHF Radio with Outside Extension Mic

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I also like my ICOM 506 with AIS receive and ram mike. I have a hand held, but 
like the higher power, and higher antenna the ICOM gives me.

Paul

From: CnC-List  on behalf of ALAN BERGEN via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 2:50:25 PM
To: C&C 
Cc: ALAN BERGEN 
Subject: Re: Stus-List VHF Radio with Outside Extension Mic

I like my ICOM radio with DSC and RAM mic. I think some of the newer ones have 
builtin AIS.

When my cable went bad, I called ICOM, and they said they no longer stock the 
cable. Then I asked whether a later mic cable would work. It turned out that it 
did, and I was able to repair the mic with the new cable. Maybe you can get the 
same results from Standard Horizon.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 10:39 AM Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Listers,

So it appears that the cable and Standard Horizon RAM mic for my VHF radio has 
finally bit the dust and there are no replacement parts available. The main 
base unit, inside the boat is still working beautifully though.

I’m currently torn with the premise of buying a new radio, a new external mic 
and running a new cable, or just leave things as they are and just use a 
portable handheld outside.

Should I decide to go with a new radio and external mic setup, does anyone have 
recommendations?

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's 
Log










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Re: Stus-List VHF Radio with Outside Extension Mic

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

I like my ICOM radio with DSC and RAM mic. I think some of the newer ones
have builtin AIS.

When my cable went bad, I called ICOM, and they said they no longer stock
the cable. Then I asked whether a later mic cable would work. It turned out
that it did, and I was able to repair the mic with the new cable. Maybe you
can get the same results from Standard Horizon.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 10:39 AM Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> So it appears that the cable and Standard Horizon RAM mic for my VHF radio
> has finally bit the dust and there are no replacement parts available. The
> main base unit, inside the boat is still working beautifully though.
>
> I’m currently torn with the premise of buying a new radio, a new external
> mic and running a new cable, or just leave things as they are and just use
> a portable handheld outside.
>
> Should I decide to go with a new radio and external mic setup, does anyone
> have recommendations?
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
>
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
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Re: Stus-List Edson engineering bulletin on fig 727 engine control

[Stu via CnC-List]

Hi Chuck – thanks for your offer.

Is the bulletin in paper format, PDF, Word .doc or something else?  How many 
pages?  If we can get it into a compatible format that the other users can use, 
it would be great.

Let me know and maybe I can convert it.

Stu

From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 2:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest 
Subject: Stus-List Edson engineering bulletin on fig 727 engine control

Hi Stu,

I’ve obtained a copy of the Edson engine control engineering bulletin for the 
pedestal mounted unit that appears on many  of our 78-83 vintage C&C’s.  The 
bulletin no longer appears on Edson’s website, but from a service standpoint, 
it may be useful for list members and visitors looking to service the engine 
controls on the boats.  Unfortunately, Edson no longer offers replacement parts 
for this controller, but it does have good info on assembly and disassembly  
for those wishing to replace cables, etc.

I  don’t have a file share program otherwise I would post a link to the list, 
but if I could send it to you  for the website for general consumption, that 
would perhaps be better.  Let me know how to get it into your hands.

Thank you,

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 Landfall 35

Padanaram, MA

(former Edson guy..)




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Re: Stus-List Edson engineering bulletin on fig 727 engine control

[David Risch via CnC-List]

Chuck,

My 1981 controls are getting stiff.   Could you send to me separately.  Thanks!

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

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Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 2:26 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest 
Subject: Stus-List Edson engineering bulletin on fig 727 engine control

Hi Stu,
I've obtained a copy of the Edson engine control engineering bulletin for the 
pedestal mounted unit that appears on many  of our 78-83 vintage C&C's.  The 
bulletin no longer appears on Edson's website, but from a service standpoint, 
it may be useful for list members and visitors looking to service the engine 
controls on the boats.  Unfortunately, Edson no longer offers replacement parts 
for this controller, but it does have good info on assembly and disassembly  
for those wishing to replace cables, etc.
I  don't have a file share program otherwise I would post a link to the list, 
but if I could send it to you  for the website for general consumption, that 
would perhaps be better.  Let me know how to get it into your hands.
Thank you,
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 Landfall 35
Padanaram, MA
(former Edson guy..)
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Re: Stus-List VHF Radio with Outside Extension Mic

[David Risch via CnC-List]

Went through the same process.   Ultimately wanted the higher output from the 
helm (vs. the handheld).  Found a replacement on Ebay.  FYI.  These 
self-destruct if removed when powered up.  Don’t ask me how I know…

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via 
CnC-List
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 1:39 PM
To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Stus-List VHF Radio with Outside Extension Mic

Listers,

So it appears that the cable and Standard Horizon RAM mic for my VHF radio has 
finally bit the dust and there are no replacement parts available. The main 
base unit, inside the boat is still working beautifully though.

I’m currently torn with the premise of buying a new radio, a new external mic 
and running a new cable, or just leave things as they are and just use a 
portable handheld outside.

Should I decide to go with a new radio and external mic setup, does anyone have 
recommendations?

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log












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Re: Stus-List VHF Radio with Outside Extension Mic

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Edd,

Does your existing VHF have AIS receive?  If not, buy a new Standard
Horizon VHF with AIS and a new RAM.

If your existing VHF has AIS, there are lots of RAM's on eBay.

-- 
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 12:39 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> So it appears that the cable and Standard Horizon RAM mic for my VHF radio
> has finally bit the dust and there are no replacement parts available. The
> main base unit, inside the boat is still working beautifully though.
>
> I’m currently torn with the premise of buying a new radio, a new external
> mic and running a new cable, or just leave things as they are and just use
> a portable handheld outside.
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Edson engineering bulletin on fig 727 engine control

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Hi Stu,

I've obtained a copy of the Edson engine control engineering bulletin for
the pedestal mounted unit that appears on many  of our 78-83 vintage C&C's.
The bulletin no longer appears on Edson's website, but from a service
standpoint, it may be useful for list members and visitors looking to
service the engine controls on the boats.  Unfortunately, Edson no longer
offers replacement parts for this controller, but it does have good info on
assembly and disassembly  for those wishing to replace cables, etc.

I  don't have a file share program otherwise I would post a link to the
list, but if I could send it to you  for the website for general
consumption, that would perhaps be better.  Let me know how to get it into
your hands.

Thank you,

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 Landfall 35

Padanaram, MA

(former Edson guy..)

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Re: Stus-List VHF Radio with Outside Extension Mic

[Matt Wolford via CnC-List]

Some of the handhelds are so nice these days, I decided to just rely on one for 
the cockpit.  It sits in a snap-it holder on the pedestal.  I have an unused 
external mic for my ship-to-shore sitting in the box with no present plans to 
install.  

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via 
CnC-List
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 1:39 PM
To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Stus-List VHF Radio with Outside Extension Mic

 

Listers,

 

So it appears that the cable and Standard Horizon RAM mic for my VHF radio has 
finally bit the dust and there are no replacement parts available. The main 
base unit, inside the boat is still working beautifully though. 

 

I’m currently torn with the premise of buying a new radio, a new external mic 
and running a new cable, or just leave things as they are and just use a 
portable handheld outside. 

 

Should I decide to go with a new radio and external mic setup, does anyone have 
recommendations? 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Captain of the Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log  

 








 






 

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Stus-List VHF Radio with Outside Extension Mic

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

So it appears that the cable and Standard Horizon RAM mic for my VHF radio has 
finally bit the dust and there are no replacement parts available. The main 
base unit, inside the boat is still working beautifully though. 

I’m currently torn with the premise of buying a new radio, a new external mic 
and running a new cable, or just leave things as they are and just use a 
portable handheld outside. 

Should I decide to go with a new radio and external mic setup, does anyone have 
recommendations? 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 











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Stus-List R e: Shift Lever. DIY

[ssjohnson via CnC-List]

I replaced my pedestal with a new Edson Vision II.  The old pedestal is in the 
garage taking up space...with most of the pieces.  Anybody who needs 
partsor better yet wants it all...is most welcome.  Separate shift/throttle 
levers.Spencer Johnson 84 LF38 "Alegria"  #165Mount Prospect, IL___

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Re: Stus-List Shift lever DIY

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

Hi,

I had a similar shift lever breakage on my on C&C 29-1.  It was the old style 
shifters with cable going through separate tubes.  I made my own replacement 
from aluminum stock.  It was real simple to do.  I used a jig saw with a metal 
cutting blade to ruff cut out the lever and sanded it on a belt sander. 
Aluminum sands well almost like a hard wood.  After drilling the 2 holes, It 
came out real nice looking. 


-
Paul E.
1981 C&C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Jul 6, 2020, at 9:39 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> From: CnC-List  > on behalf of John and Maryann Read 
> via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 7:21:27 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
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> Cc: John and Maryann Read  >
> Subject: Stus-List Shift lever
> 
> 
> A friend?s circa 1980 36 shift lever broke while docking this weekend.  It 
> was an exciting docking maneuver with crew climbing into the engine to 
> manually shift but all is well.  Any advice on obtaining a replacement?
> 
> Edson system with separate throttle and shift levers each in its own tube 
> either side of the pedestal.  Lever is cast aluminum
> 
> 
> 
> TIA
> 
> 
> 
> John and Maryann
> 
> Legacy III
> 
> 1982 C&C 34
> 
> Noank, CT
> 
> 

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Re: Stus-List Shift lever

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

You will be very disappointed if you order this part for your engine control as 
it only works in an Edson 870 control.  Replacement engine control levers for 
the controls where the cables have their own unique tubes aft of the pedestal 
ARE NO LONGER MADE BY EDSON and have not been for over 25 years.  If you still 
have one of these controls on your boat, do yourself a favor and replace your 
control cables(carefully).  The vast majority of control component breakage 
(clevis, levers, and clamps)is caused by trying to overcome the friction of 
worn out cables that have been in the boat for over 30 years. And no, there is 
no way to lubricate a Morse series 33 or 64 cable.  It is the cable housing 
that wears out wherever there is a bend in the cable.
Chuck Gilchrest 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2020, at 9:19 AM, dwight veinot via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
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> 
> Binnacle.ca. Search Edson stainless clutch handle. $109
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 8:22 AM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> A friend’s circa 1980 36 shift lever broke while docking this weekend.  It 
>> was an exciting docking maneuver with crew climbing into the engine to 
>> manually shift but all is well.  Any advice on obtaining a replacement?
>> 
>> Edson system with separate throttle and shift levers each in its own tube 
>> either side of the pedestal.  Lever is cast aluminum
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> TIA
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> John and Maryann
>> 
>> Legacy III
>> 
>> 1982 C&C 34
>> 
>> Noank, CT
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
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Re: Stus-List Shift lever

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

John,

I may still have those style levers from the original 1982 Edson installation 
on our boat. I’ll need to do some “searching” through my sheds filled with junk 
but that is a process I’m already engaged in at the moment.

If found, free.

Regards,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 

> On Jul 6, 2020, at 8:31 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> John,
> The levers you describe are no longer made by Edson.  It’s conceivable that 
> you could 3D print a new one from the existing pieces but chances are good 
> you will need to swap out engine controls to either an Edson 870 or 816 
> control housing.  Your cables would get re routed inside the pedestal and you 
> would lose the extra tubes.
> 
> I believe the control on the boat is currently a model 737 control.
> Chuck Gilchrest 
> S/V Half Magic 
> 1983 Landfall 35
> (With the same engine controls)
> 

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Re: Stus-List Shift lever

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Binnacle.ca. Search Edson stainless clutch handle. $109

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 8:22 AM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> A friend’s circa 1980 36 shift lever broke while docking this weekend.  It
> was an exciting docking maneuver with crew climbing into the engine to
> manually shift but all is well.  Any advice on obtaining a replacement?
>
> Edson system with separate throttle and shift levers each in its own tube
> either side of the pedestal.  Lever is cast aluminum
>
>
>
> TIA
>
>
>
> John and Maryann
>
> Legacy III
>
> 1982 C&C 34
>
> Noank, CT
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Shift lever

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

John,
The levers you describe are no longer made by Edson.  It’s conceivable that you 
could 3D print a new one from the existing pieces but chances are good you will 
need to swap out engine controls to either an Edson 870 or 816 control housing. 
 Your cables would get re routed inside the pedestal and you would lose the 
extra tubes.

I believe the control on the boat is currently a model 737 control.
Chuck Gilchrest 
S/V Half Magic 
1983 Landfall 35
(With the same engine controls)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2020, at 7:22 AM, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> A friend’s circa 1980 36 shift lever broke while docking this weekend.  It 
> was an exciting docking maneuver with crew climbing into the engine to 
> manually shift but all is well.  Any advice on obtaining a replacement?
> Edson system with separate throttle and shift levers each in its own tube 
> either side of the pedestal.  Lever is cast aluminum
>  
> TIA
>  
> John and Maryann
> Legacy III
> 1982 C&C 34
> Noank, CT
>  
>  
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Re: Stus-List Shift lever

[schiller via CnC-List]

Our C&C 35-3 came with plastic control levers.  They always felt close 
to failing so we replaced them with Stainless Steel Edson levers from 
Defender.  Expensive but well worth it.  It is a terrible feeling when 
the lever breaks at the worst time.  We had the side mounted 
shift/throttle control break the mounting screws approaching a bridge 
with the current pushing us toward it on our Redwing 35.  Dove below and 
had to manually shift the A4 to keep us stationary while the bridge 
opened.  Also had a friend who liked to come into his slip fast and 
quick reverse to stop until his shifter broke off in his hand.  I jumped 
off the boat and managed to get it stoppped before he Forest Gump'd the 
dock.


Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 7/6/2020 7:21 AM, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List wrote:


A friend’s circa 1980 36 shift lever broke while docking this 
weekend.  It was an exciting docking maneuver with crew climbing into 
the engine to manually shift but all is well. Any advice on obtaining 
a replacement?


Edson system with separate throttle and shift levers each in its own 
tube either side of the pedestal.  Lever is cast aluminum


TIA

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT


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Re: Stus-List Shift lever

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

https://edsonmarine.com/products/pedestals-cockpit-accessories/engine-controls-accessories/replacement-engine-control-handles/
 Put these on our 85 33-ll.

Paul

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Read via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 7:21:27 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: John and Maryann Read 
Subject: Stus-List Shift lever


A friend’s circa 1980 36 shift lever broke while docking this weekend.  It was 
an exciting docking maneuver with crew climbing into the engine to manually 
shift but all is well.  Any advice on obtaining a replacement?

Edson system with separate throttle and shift levers each in its own tube 
either side of the pedestal.  Lever is cast aluminum



TIA



John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT




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Re: Stus-List Boom tent

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

I have a 35 MK I. Do you literally mean a boom tent with the boom as a 
high point and the edges tied down to the rails? If you mean something 
like a big sun/rain shield spread out with poles, I have one in my shed. 
It was not custom made for the boat, I think my father got it in the 
1970s and it is a big rectangle of cloth with two aluminum poles. One 
pole is split and the cover has a velcro slot so it can extent aft past 
the topping lift/halyard on the end of the boom.We actually don't use it 
very often since we got the Bimini. On the plus side it provides a lot 
of shade. On the minus side it takes some time to put up and I would 
NEVER leave it up at anchor with the boat unattended unless there was 
exactly 0% of storms. It is a lot of windage and tends to yank boat boat 
at an angle on the anchor and pop it free assuming it even lasts long 
enough to do that before shredding.


You can see it here 
http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/images/coq1annapolis.jpg  In this case 
we have it forward of the topping lift.


Joe

Coquina




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Stus-List Shift lever

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

A friend’s circa 1980 36 shift lever broke while docking this weekend.  It was 
an exciting docking maneuver with crew climbing into the engine to manually 
shift but all is well.  Any advice on obtaining a replacement?

Edson system with separate throttle and shift levers each in its own tube 
either side of the pedestal.  Lever is cast aluminum

 

TIA

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT

 

 

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