Stus-List Re: Americas Cup racing

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 
 I agree with all of Dwight's comments except one; they're not monohull 
sailboats...they are hydrofoils, and as such, I don't consider them as the 
sailboats I prefer for the America's cup racing; 
Richard
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From: dwight veinot 
To: Stus-List 
Sent: Mon, Dec 21, 2020 7:22 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: Americas Cup racing

Have you ever been on a 75 foot monohull sail boat going 40 kts. I say its top 
notch technology and takes a whole lot more than most sailors know how to do  
imagine Barker, Ainslie, Spitall and Burling steering these foiling monohulls 
they are currently the best sailors on the planet and the crew are also the 
best that can be had. I like the racing and i like seeing all the adjustments 
these guys have to make above and below the water. Different point of view I 
guess
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Stus-List Re: Ken Read debriefs AC Racing and Rich Wilson Updates Vendee Globe

[pete.shelquist--- via CnC-List]

Don – 

Thanks for providing this.   It was interesting to hear Ken Read’s input on the 
races & boats.

 

 

From: Donald Kern  
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 6:46 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Ken Read debriefs AC Racing and Rich Wilson Updates Vendee 
Globe

 

 


December 20, 2020

 

TOMORROW NIGHT! December 21, at 6 p.m., ET, Ken Read joins us live from New 
Zealand to give his insight and report on all of the America's Cup World Series 
action that just concluded in Auckland. 

 

Rich Wilson, one of the most experienced around-the-world sailors follows Ken 
with a presentation on the Vendée Globe. The second part of this ninth edition 
of the Vendée Globe looks set to offer even more tension and excitement with 
the prospect of the top 11 skippers being within 800 nautical miles of each 
other at Cape Horn either on New Year's Eve or New Year's Day! 

 

The Zoom event is free and open to the public. 


  
https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_AuBxXTWqSdCfFZm7zPMX0w
or go to Sail Newport
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Please share this!


   



   

   

 

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Stus-List Re: Americas Cup racing

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Hi Dwight,
I like seeing the technology too.  These first races were just sea trials.  The 
upcoming races will be better sailed and commentated and the graphics will make 
them easier to understand too.  I Look forward to learning about the crew 
positions and their responsibilities.  The wheel looks pretty complicated with 
Nintendo game controller.

Ken Read was noting how the crews changed the sail camber during maneuvers.  
Deep draft form power to get up on the foil and then a flatter camber for low 
drag speed sailing.

I think the keels will eventually evolve into a single centerline canting Tee 
foil that will work on any tack or gybe.  Or the sails will spill the wind 
after foiling and eliminate sideways forces.


Chuck Scheaffer



> On 12/21/2020 7:22 PM dwight veinot  wrote:
>  
>  
> Have you ever been on a 75 foot monohull sail boat going 40 kts. I say 
> its top notch technology and takes a whole lot more than most sailors know 
> how to do  imagine Barker, Ainslie, Spitall and Burling steering these 
> foiling monohulls they are currently the best sailors on the planet and the 
> crew are also the best that can be had. I like the racing and i like seeing 
> all the adjustments these guys have to make above and below the water. 
> Different point of view I guess
> 
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 12:34 PM David Knecht < davidakne...@gmail.com 
> mailto:davidakne...@gmail.com > wrote:
> 
> > > I taped Day 2 of the Prada series a couple of nights ago. 
>  I was able to record the broadcast at 1AM.  I think the boats are 
> spectacularly impressive and the racing is unbelvievably boring.  Races are 
> won and lost on pure boat speed.  There is no tactics other than the start 
> and it is unclear if that actually matters.  Nothing matters except staying 
> on the foils going fast.  The boats are going 35 knots in 15 knots of wind so 
> it all looks the same, upwind and downwind.   No spinnakers, no crew running 
> around the deck hoisiting and lowering sails, or tacking.  Everyone stays in 
> the same place throughout the race.  There is absolutely nothing happening 
> except the boat going through the water and nothing that a normal sailor can 
> related to.  It is impossible to tell why one boat is ahead and another 
> behind and why they change places at times.  Even the graphics for who is 
> ahead are really hard to decipher.  I also found the commentary to be 
> unhelpful.  I don’t think the people calling the race have any more iidea of 
> what is happeneing than the famous video of the Irish announcer calling the 
> Laser race at the Olympics who had never seen a sailboat race before thinking 
> the starting sequence was actually the race (if you haven’t seen that one- 
> you should.  I can find the link).  I know I am being critical and I will 
> probably watch the final America’s cup when it happens, but I was really 
> disappointed.  Dave
> > 
> > 
> > > > > On Dec 19, 2020, at 11:11 PM, CHARLES 
> > SCHEAFFER < cscheaf...@comcast.net mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Thanks Edd,
> > > I'll stay up an d check out the Americas Cup race.  I've been 
> > > watching the Vendee Globe coverage daily and the interviews have been 
> > > great.
> > >  
> > > Chuck
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> > > 
> > > > > 
> > David Knecht
> > S/V Aries
> > 1990 C 34+
> > New London, CT
> > 
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Stus-List Re: Americas Cup racing

[detroito91 via CnC-List]

Please bring back the j boats. They raced. Not going up and back.It was 
spectacular to see the chutes go up and down. The sails actually move based on 
course and wind direction. Jim schwartzSEA YA! IImarine trawler 43Washington nc 
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 Original message From: dwight veinot  
Date: 12/21/20  7:23 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Stus-List  
Subject: Stus-List Re: Americas Cup racing Have you ever been on a 75 foot 
monohull sail boat going 40 kts. I say its top notch technology and takes a 
whole lot more than most sailors know how to do  imagine Barker, Ainslie, 
Spitall and Burling steering these foiling monohulls they are currently the 
best sailors on the planet and the crew are also the best that can be had. I 
like the racing and i like seeing all the adjustments these guys have to make 
above and below the water. Different point of view I guessOn Sun, Dec 20, 2020 
at 12:34 PM David Knecht  wrote:I taped Day 2 of the 
Prada series a couple of nights ago.  I was able to record the broadcast at 
1AM.  I think the boats are spectacularly impressive and the racing is 
unbelvievably boring.  Races are won and lost on pure boat speed.  There is no 
tactics other than the start and it is unclear if that actually matters.  
Nothing matters except staying on the foils going fast.  The boats are going 35 
knots in 15 knots of wind so it all looks the same, upwind and downwind.   No 
spinnakers, no crew running around the deck hoisiting and lowering sails, or 
tacking.  Everyone stays in the same place throughout the race.  There is 
absolutely nothing happening except the boat going through the water and 
nothing that a normal sailor can related to.  It is impossible to tell why one 
boat is ahead and another behind and why they change places at times.  Even the 
graphics for who is ahead are really hard to decipher.  I also found the 
commentary to be unhelpful.  I don’t think the people calling the race have any 
more iidea of what is happeneing than the famous video of the Irish announcer 
calling the Laser race at the Olympics who had never seen a sailboat race 
before thinking the starting sequence was actually the race (if you haven’t 
seen that one- you should.  I can find the link).  I know I am being critical 
and I will probably watch the final America’s cup when it happens, but I was 
really disappointed.  DaveOn Dec 19, 2020, at 11:11 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
 wrote:

  
   
 
 
  
   Thanks Edd,
   
  
   I'll stay up an
   d check out the Americas Cup race.  I've been watching the Vendee Globe 
coverage daily and the interviews have been great.
   
  
    
   
  
   Chuck
   
 
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Stus-List Re: Americas Cup racing

[dwight veinot]

Have you ever been on a 75 foot monohull sail boat going 40 kts. I say its
top notch technology and takes a whole lot more than most sailors know how
to do  imagine Barker, Ainslie, Spitall and Burling steering these foiling
monohulls they are currently the best sailors on the planet and the crew
are also the best that can be had. I like the racing and i like seeing all
the adjustments these guys have to make above and below the water.
Different point of view I guess

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 12:34 PM David Knecht 
wrote:

> I taped Day 2 of the Prada series a couple of nights ago.  I was able to
> record the broadcast at 1AM.  I think the boats are spectacularly
> impressive and the racing is unbelvievably boring.  Races are won and lost
> on pure boat speed.  There is no tactics other than the start and it is
> unclear if that actually matters.  Nothing matters except staying on the
> foils going fast.  The boats are going 35 knots in 15 knots of wind so it
> all looks the same, upwind and downwind.   No spinnakers, no crew running
> around the deck hoisiting and lowering sails, or tacking.  Everyone stays
> in the same place throughout the race.  There is absolutely nothing
> happening except the boat going through the water and nothing that a normal
> sailor can related to.  It is impossible to tell why one boat is ahead and
> another behind and why they change places at times.  Even the graphics for
> who is ahead are really hard to decipher.  I also found the commentary to
> be unhelpful.  I don’t think the people calling the race have any more
> iidea of what is happeneing than the famous video of the Irish announcer
> calling the Laser race at the Olympics who had never seen a sailboat race
> before thinking the starting sequence was actually the race (if you haven’t
> seen that one- you should.  I can find the link).  I know I am being
> critical and I will probably watch the final America’s cup when it happens,
> but I was really disappointed.  Dave
>
> On Dec 19, 2020, at 11:11 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Edd,
> I'll stay up an d check out the Americas Cup race.  I've been watching
> the Vendee Globe coverage daily and the interviews have been great.
>
> Chuck
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>
>
> David Knecht
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
>
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Hi Martin!

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 5:02 PM Martin DeYoung 
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Stus-List Re: Test email from Calypso

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Received in perfect shape on the Other Coast…

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> On Dec 21, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Martin DeYoung  
> wrote:
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> I have not received any cnc-list emails for a week.  This is a test to 
> determine if I was able to stumble upon and correct the issue. I use MS 
> Outlook and suspect I accidentally changed something or a recent security 
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> list.
>  
> I have received non cnc-list emails and PM from other cnc-list participants.  
> A test directly to Stu came through OK.
>  
> Martin DeYoung
>  
> Calypso
> 1971 C 43
> Seattle/Port Ludlow
>  
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Stus-List Re: Test email from Calypso

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER]

I see you.

It's been very quiet.  Guess everyone is out shopping.

Chuck

> On 12/21/2020 5:02 PM Martin DeYoung  wrote:
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>  
> 
> I have not received any cnc-list emails for a week.  This is a test to 
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> software update relegated cnc-list.com to a “no fly” list.
> 
>  
> 
> I have received non cnc-list emails and PM from other cnc-list 
> participants.  A test directly to Stu came through OK.
> 
>  
> 
> Martin DeYoung
> 
>  
> 
> Calypso
> 
> 1971 C 43
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> Seattle/Port Ludlow
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I have not received any cnc-list emails for a week.  This is a test to 
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