Stus-List Re: Emergency Tiller wanted

[Martin DeYoung via CnC-List]

Bill,

Yes, that 39 still had the original “broach coach” barn door rudder in 1977.
The 1977 Transpac was one of the windiest Transpacs on record.  On the 
stormiest night we rounded up multiple times an hour.  IIRC 7 race boats were 
dismasted that night.  Learning from sailing through that with the short 
rudder, for the 1979 Transpac the owner upgraded to the newer rudder design and 
a bigger steering wheel.

The new rudder was a significant upgrade in control when pushing hard off the 
wind.  We also used a blooper to help balance the sail plan for DDW in trade 
wind conditions.
(That 39 was built in 1973 and was hull #49.  As the “Midnight Special” under 
Steve Crary’s ownership it held the Vic-Maui race record for <40’ for many 
years.  When I sailed on her (still the “Midnight Special”) the owner was Verne 
McCullough (1976 to +-1983).  Last I heard she was still in the PNW named 
“Discovery”.)

Our woodruff key failure analysis indicated the key was undersized and slowly 
slipped down out of the interface with the quadrant.  The failed key showed it 
sheared when just under ½ of its length was still in contact with the quadrant.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C 43
Seattle/Port Ludlow

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 3:38 PM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Bill Coleman
Subject: Stus-List Re: Emergency Tiller wanted

That is a scary tale. When I disconnected my rudder, I thought for sure that 
the key was redundant, as the quadrant clamped onto that shaft so hard when you 
tightened it that I couldn't imagine it's ever slipping.  I have to ask, was 
that the original barn door rudder? Because, I can't imagine that happening 
with one of the newer, balanced Spade rudders that came after. My 39 would sail 
itself without even touching it for miles. And then you only needed fingertips.
Bill Coleman
Erie PA,  Entrada

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Stus-List Re: Emergency Tiller wanted

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

That is a scary tale. When I disconnected my rudder, I thought for sure
that the key was redundant, as the quadrant clamped onto that shaft so hard
when you tightened it that I couldn't imagine it's ever slipping.  I have
to ask, was that the original barn door rudder? Because, I can't imagine
that happening with one of the newer, balanced Spade rudders that came
after. My 39 would sail itself without even touching it for miles. And then
you only needed fingertips.

Bill Coleman
Erie PA,  Entrada

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021, 4:45 PM Martin DeYoung via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> John,
>
>
>
> I have an emergency tiller that came with Calypso but does not fit the
> rudder post.  IIRC it has a cast fitting that has a rectangular cut out to
> fit over a machined rudder post head.  I suspect it was original from
> Bruckmann’s to fit the original rudder.  Calypso’s rudder was replaced back
> in 1974 with no provision for using this tiller.
>
>
>
> If you send me a picture and/or measurements I will dig the tiller out of
> storage and check if it would work on your 36-1.  (BTW I owned a 1980 C
> 36 for 7 years. I do not recall what the top of the rudder post looked
> like. My wife still misses that boat, she is spooked by Calypso’s racing
> sail plan and heavier displacement.)
>
>
>
> I am a firm believer in having a emergency tiller or alternate method of
> steering.  During a delivery of a C 39 south to LA for the start of the
> 1977 Transpac we experienced steering failure.  It was 3 or 4 AM and we
> were in the middle of the “squash zone” an area of enhanced Northwesterly
> winds between the WA/OR border and Point Reyes (just north of San
> Francisco).  The winds were gusting to the high 30’s and the seas were big
> and steep.
>
>
>
> When the woodruff key between the SS rudder post and the steering quadrant
> sheared the boat rounded up on the face of a steep breaking wave.  I was
> below in on one of the saloon bunks and was tossed over the lee cloth onto
> the owner that was sleeping to leeward.  We both raced onto deck to see WTF
> happened.  We rigged the short emergency tiller (very similar to the one I
> have in storage).  It took two of us sitting on the cockpit floor to exert
> enough force on the short tiller to bring the boat back to course.  We
> reduced sail to a double reefed main.
>
>
>
> Once it was determined what failed and that a spare woodruff key was
> onboard we waited for daylight to effect repairs.  The guy that drew the
> short straw had to climb under the cockpit and disconnect the steering
> cables and un-bolt the quadrant.  With the replacement woodruff key in
> place and the quadrant re-mounted the cables needed slack to be
> re-attached.  This meant  holding the rudder full over on each side long
> enough for the poor guy under the cockpit to attach the cable and make a
> rough adjustment.
>
>
>
> Everything loose onboard was secured and the main sheet was manned.  Once
> we pulled the tiller hard over the boat began spinning circles in the big
> seas.  Of course this was entertaining for those of us up on deck but
> miserable for the guy hooking up the cables below.  Of note, if the tiller
> slipped the guy hooking up cables could lose a finger or two.
>
>
>
> In all it worked out OK.  Once full steering function was reestablished,
> sails hoisted and the mess cleaned up it was time for breakfast.  IIRC it
> was egg-foo-young.
>
>
>
> Martin DeYoung
>
> Calypso
>
> 1971 C 43
>
> Seattle/Port Ludlow
>
>
>
> >>
>
> *John McCrea*
>
> *Thu, Dec 31, 2020 4:06 PM*
>
> Hello all. I need an emergency tiller for my 1979 36-1. My bot did not come
> with one. I have access to one from a club members 36-1 that I can get
> replicated but it will be pricey. Does anyone have an extra or know of a
> source that has the casting for the rudder fitting? Thanks!
>
> John McCrea
>
> Talisman
>
> 1979 36-1 Hull 113
>
> Mystic, CT
>
>
>
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
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Stus-List Re: C drawings at Kingston Maritime Museum

[Robert Mazza via CnC-List]

Thank you Richard (and Ted and Charles),

Much appreciated.

Rob

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 5:26 PM Richard Bush  wrote:

> Rob, thank you; that is a really good synopsis; I, for one, had no
> knowledge of the workings of he museum or the issue with the location;
> (nice people those City developers); please know that all of the effort and
> labor that you, and all of the Museum people have invested is a real
> contribution to sailing and to your fellow C owners; there is nothing
> remotely close to the Marine Museum in our part of the country...; I have
> purchased drawings for all of my boats from the Museum and received nothing
> but courteous and helpful service!
>
> Richard
> s.v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
>
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Mazza via CnC-List 
> To: Stus-List ; JohnKelly Cuthbertson <
> j...@motiondesignslimited.com>
> Cc: Robert Mazza 
> Sent: Sat, Jan 2, 2021 12:27 pm
> Subject: Stus-List Re: C drawings at Kingston Maritime Museum
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Perhaps now is a good time for a quick update on the Marine Museum of the
> Great Lakes at Kingston and the drawing collections. As JohnKelly and
> others have been discussing, the museum holds the drawing collections of
> George Cuthbertson, from the early drawings of his youth to 1973 when
> George handed over design responsibilities to Bob Ball and the C Design
> Group, of which I was a member from 1969 to 1985. (I have been a member of
> the Board of Directors of the Marine Museum since 2012). These drawings
> were graciously donated to the museum by George himself. George  also sat
> on the Board of Directors of the museum for a number of years. In the early
> 2000s Tim Jacket generously donated a large portion of the C drawings
> dating from 1973 to 1996 to the Marine Museum. These drawings had been
> acquired by Tim and Tartan Marine when Tartan purchased the assets of C
> Yachts in 1996. A couple of years after Tim's initial donation of drawings,
> I dropped in on Tim and Tartan to further explore their dusty mezzanine to
> look for more drawings, and found about 30 rolls that Tim was unable to
> deliver in his previous trip north. These, incidentally, included the 
> *Evergreen
> *and Mega drawings, among others. Although I catalogued these drawings
> prior to delivering them to the museum, subsequent events may not have
> allowed all of them to be entered into the computer system. I still have
> about 10 rolls of drawings that I picked up from Tartan, and about 15 rolls
> that I received from Rob MacLachlan at South Shore before he closed his
> operation. Unfortunately, time constraints and challenges at the Marine
> Museum have prevented me from cataloguing these drawings (as I think
> JohnKelly pointed out, cataloguing drawings is an exceedingly tedious
> undertaking!)  In addition to the Cuthbertson and C drawing collections,
> the museum also holds George Hinterhoeller's drawings, graciously donated
> to the museum by his son Richard Hinterhoeller. The other sailing
> collection the museum holds are blueprints, photos and drawings by the
> early 20th Century Canadian yacht designer TBF Benson. Of Course, the
> museum also holds about 40,000 ships plans, including the
> entire archives of the Montreal naval architecture firm German and Milne,
> as well as the archives of Canada Steamship Lines and all the shipyards
> with which they were associated. Needless to say, the total drawing
> collections of the museum are massive! So that's the background on the
> drawing collection.
>
> With regard to the Marine Museum itself, I'm sure everyone is aware that
> the museum was evicted from their waterfront property (that property
> included the historic dry-dock) in 2016 when the Canadian Federal
> government of the day sold our property to a private developer. That
> individual took advantage of a provision in our lease agreement with the
> government to insist we vacate the property in 120 days. The City of
> Kingston eventually provided storage space for the archives (including the
> drawings) and artifacts, as well as a small "store front" office location
> for the museum in Portsmouth Olympic Harbour, site of the 1976 Olympic
> sailing events. Our fortunes increased significantly last year when a
> generous benefactor donated enough money to the museum to allow us to buy
> our former property (including the dry-dock) back from the developer who
> had done nothing with the property over that three year period. Our plan is
> to repair the damage done by three years of vandalism and neglect, and at
> least move our offices back on the property this spring (Covid permitting).
> In the meantime the museum's sailing and C collections were further
> enhanced last year with the bequest of the legendary *Red Jacket * to the
> Marine Museum by the late Peter Milligan. In addition the 

Stus-List Re: C drawings at Kingston Maritime Museum

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 Rob, thank you; that is a really good synopsis; I, for one, had no knowledge 
of the workings of he museum or the issue with the location; (nice people those 
City developers); please know that all of the effort and labor that you, and 
all of the Museum people have invested is a real contribution to sailing and to 
your fellow C owners; there is nothing remotely close to the Marine Museum in 
our part of the country...; I have purchased drawings for all of my boats from 
the Museum and received nothing but courteous and helpful service!
 
Richard
 s.v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;

Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
-Original Message-
From: Robert Mazza via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List ; JohnKelly Cuthbertson 

Cc: Robert Mazza 
Sent: Sat, Jan 2, 2021 12:27 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: C drawings at Kingston Maritime Museum

Hi Everyone,
Perhaps now is a good time for a quick update on the Marine Museum of the Great 
Lakes at Kingston and the drawing collections. As JohnKelly and others have 
been discussing, the museum holds the drawing collections of George 
Cuthbertson, from the early drawings of his youth to 1973 when George handed 
over design responsibilities to Bob Ball and the C Design Group, of which I 
was a member from 1969 to 1985. (I have been a member of the Board of Directors 
of the Marine Museum since 2012). These drawings were graciously donated to the 
museum by George himself. George  also sat on the Board of Directors of the 
museum for a number of years. In the early 2000s Tim Jacket generously donated 
a large portion of the C drawings dating from 1973 to 1996 to the Marine 
Museum. These drawings had been acquired by Tim and Tartan Marine when Tartan 
purchased the assets of C Yachts in 1996. A couple of years after Tim's 
initial donation of drawings, I dropped in on Tim and Tartan to further explore 
their dusty mezzanine to look for more drawings, and found about 30 rolls that 
Tim was unable to deliver in his previous trip north. These, incidentally, 
included the Evergreen and Mega drawings, among others. Although I catalogued 
these drawings prior to delivering them to the museum, subsequent events may 
not have allowed all of them to be entered into the computer system. I still 
have about 10 rolls of drawings that I picked up from Tartan, and about 15 
rolls that I received from Rob MacLachlan at South Shore before he closed his 
operation. Unfortunately, time constraints and challenges at the Marine Museum 
have prevented me from cataloguing these drawings (as I think JohnKelly pointed 
out, cataloguing drawings is an exceedingly tedious undertaking!)  In addition 
to the Cuthbertson and C drawing collections, the museum also holds George 
Hinterhoeller's drawings, graciously donated to the museum by his son Richard 
Hinterhoeller. The other sailing collection the museum holds are blueprints, 
photos and drawings by the early 20th Century Canadian yacht designer TBF 
Benson. Of Course, the museum also holds about 40,000 ships plans, including 
the entire archives of the Montreal naval architecture firm German and Milne, 
as well as the archives of Canada Steamship Lines and all the shipyards with 
which they were associated. Needless to say, the total drawing collections of 
the museum are massive! So that's the background on the drawing collection. 
With regard to the Marine Museum itself, I'm sure everyone is aware that the 
museum was evicted from their waterfront property (that property included the 
historic dry-dock) in 2016 when the Canadian Federal government of the day sold 
our property to a private developer. That individual took advantage of a 
provision in our lease agreement with the government to insist we vacate the 
property in 120 days. The City of Kingston eventually provided storage space 
for the archives (including the drawings) and artifacts, as well as a small 
"store front" office location for the museum in Portsmouth Olympic Harbour, 
site of the 1976 Olympic sailing events. Our fortunes increased significantly 
last year when a generous benefactor donated enough money to the museum to 
allow us to buy our former property (including the dry-dock) back from the 
developer who had done nothing with the property over that three year period. 
Our plan is to repair the damage done by three years of vandalism and neglect, 
and at least move our offices back on the property this spring (Covid 
permitting). In the meantime the museum's sailing and C collections were 
further enhanced last year with the bequest of the legendary Red Jacket  to the 
Marine Museum by the late Peter Milligan. In addition the Museum has agreed to 
accept a 1949 Greavette Int'l 14' Dinghy and a 1965 McCutheon built Kirby III 
Int'l Fourteen. Both are in immaculate condition. There is a long term plan to 
expand and enlarge the museum over the next 5 years, as well as the possibility 

Stus-List Emergency Tiller wanted

[Martin DeYoung via CnC-List]

John,

I have an emergency tiller that came with Calypso but does not fit the rudder 
post.  IIRC it has a cast fitting that has a rectangular cut out to fit over a 
machined rudder post head.  I suspect it was original from Bruckmann’s to fit 
the original rudder.  Calypso’s rudder was replaced back in 1974 with no 
provision for using this tiller.

If you send me a picture and/or measurements I will dig the tiller out of 
storage and check if it would work on your 36-1.  (BTW I owned a 1980 C 36 
for 7 years. I do not recall what the top of the rudder post looked like. My 
wife still misses that boat, she is spooked by Calypso’s racing sail plan and 
heavier displacement.)

I am a firm believer in having a emergency tiller or alternate method of 
steering.  During a delivery of a C 39 south to LA for the start of the 1977 
Transpac we experienced steering failure.  It was 3 or 4 AM and we were in the 
middle of the “squash zone” an area of enhanced Northwesterly winds between the 
WA/OR border and Point Reyes (just north of San Francisco).  The winds were 
gusting to the high 30’s and the seas were big and steep.

When the woodruff key between the SS rudder post and the steering quadrant 
sheared the boat rounded up on the face of a steep breaking wave.  I was below 
in on one of the saloon bunks and was tossed over the lee cloth onto the owner 
that was sleeping to leeward.  We both raced onto deck to see WTF happened.  We 
rigged the short emergency tiller (very similar to the one I have in storage).  
It took two of us sitting on the cockpit floor to exert enough force on the 
short tiller to bring the boat back to course.  We reduced sail to a double 
reefed main.

Once it was determined what failed and that a spare woodruff key was onboard we 
waited for daylight to effect repairs.  The guy that drew the short straw had 
to climb under the cockpit and disconnect the steering cables and un-bolt the 
quadrant.  With the replacement woodruff key in place and the quadrant 
re-mounted the cables needed slack to be re-attached.  This meant  holding the 
rudder full over on each side long enough for the poor guy under the cockpit to 
attach the cable and make a rough adjustment.

Everything loose onboard was secured and the main sheet was manned.  Once we 
pulled the tiller hard over the boat began spinning circles in the big seas.  
Of course this was entertaining for those of us up on deck but miserable for 
the guy hooking up the cables below.  Of note, if the tiller slipped the guy 
hooking up cables could lose a finger or two.

In all it worked out OK.  Once full steering function was reestablished, sails 
hoisted and the mess cleaned up it was time for breakfast.  IIRC it was 
egg-foo-young.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C 43
Seattle/Port Ludlow

>>
John McCrea
Thu, Dec 31, 2020 4:06 PM
Hello all. I need an emergency tiller for my 1979 36-1. My bot did not come
with one. I have access to one from a club members 36-1 that I can get
replicated but it will be pricey. Does anyone have an extra or know of a
source that has the casting for the rudder fitting? Thanks!
John McCrea
Talisman
1979 36-1 Hull 113
Mystic, CT


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Stus-List Maybe problem solved

[Stu via CnC-List]

Good news – as of this morning, Microsoft has lifted the block on our list 
servers.  It took quite a bit of prodding and they have not replied to our 
requests for information regarding the block.

Hopefully we are back online and everyone is receiving the list emails.

Now, if you stop receiving emails from the list, immediately get in touch with 
me.

Hoping this resolves some of our cyberspace problems.

Stay safe & healthy
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Stus-List Re: Happy New Year

[David Risch via CnC-List]

Chuck,

My first email yesterday since 12/15...

Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.


From: Graham Collins via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 7:49:05 PM
To: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
Cc: Graham Collins 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Happy New Year


OK, so this is the first email I've gotten on the C list in weeks.  A good 
one though.

Happy new year wishes to all!  Hopefully this year is less eventful compared 
with 2020...

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2021-01-01 7:57 p.m., CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List wrote:
Hi all,

Hope you all had a nice celebration last night and the hang overs weren't too 
bad.  We rarely drive on New Year's Eve, but this year made a short trip to my 
brother-in-laws for an outdoor buffet, bon fire, making smores and enjoying 
fireworks.

Here's wishing you all a better year in 2021.

Chuck S



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Stus-List Re: C drawings at Kingston Maritime Museum

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Agree w Ted.  Thanks Rob for the nicely detailed explanation of Kingston Museum 
and for your support.  It is much appreciated.  Please don't hesitate to share 
more stories about your role at C since it is winter and we are all hungry 
for a good fireside story about how some beautiful sailboats were constructed.

Thanks, 
Chuck Scheaffer Resolute, 1989 C 34R Pasadena Md 

> On 01/02/2021 12:47 PM Ted_Relinda--- via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Thank you Rob fo your update on the museum. I had dropped an email to 
> them last week and found they were closed for the holidays.  I will now 
> understand if nobody gets back in touch with me for quite a while. The main 
> goal right now is the presentation of history.   
> Ted
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
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> 
> 
> > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 12:27 PM, Robert Mazza via CnC-List
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to 
> > help with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list 
> > - use PayPal to send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 
> > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
> > 
> > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to 
> > help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list 
> > - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks 
> > - Stu
> 
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Stus-List Re: C drawings at Kingston Maritime Museum

[Ted_Relinda--- via CnC-List]

Thank you Rob fo your update on the museum. I had dropped an email to them last 
week and found they were closed for the holidays.  I will now understand if 
nobody gets back in touch with me for quite a while. The main goal right now is 
the presentation of history.   Ted

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
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Stus-List Re: C drawings at Kingston Maritime Museum

[Robert Mazza via CnC-List]

Hi Everyone,

Perhaps now is a good time for a quick update on the Marine Museum of the
Great Lakes at Kingston and the drawing collections. As JohnKelly and
others have been discussing, the museum holds the drawing collections of
George Cuthbertson, from the early drawings of his youth to 1973 when
George handed over design responsibilities to Bob Ball and the C Design
Group, of which I was a member from 1969 to 1985. (I have been a member of
the Board of Directors of the Marine Museum since 2012). These drawings
were graciously donated to the museum by George himself. George  also sat
on the Board of Directors of the museum for a number of years. In the early
2000s Tim Jacket generously donated a large portion of the C drawings
dating from 1973 to 1996 to the Marine Museum. These drawings had been
acquired by Tim and Tartan Marine when Tartan purchased the assets of C
Yachts in 1996. A couple of years after Tim's initial donation of drawings,
I dropped in on Tim and Tartan to further explore their dusty mezzanine to
look for more drawings, and found about 30 rolls that Tim was unable to
deliver in his previous trip north. These, incidentally, included the
*Evergreen
*and Mega drawings, among others. Although I catalogued these drawings
prior to delivering them to the museum, subsequent events may not have
allowed all of them to be entered into the computer system. I still have
about 10 rolls of drawings that I picked up from Tartan, and about 15 rolls
that I received from Rob MacLachlan at South Shore before he closed his
operation. Unfortunately, time constraints and challenges at the Marine
Museum have prevented me from cataloguing these drawings (as I think
JohnKelly pointed out, cataloguing drawings is an exceedingly tedious
undertaking!)  In addition to the Cuthbertson and C drawing collections,
the museum also holds George Hinterhoeller's drawings, graciously donated
to the museum by his son Richard Hinterhoeller. The other sailing
collection the museum holds are blueprints, photos and drawings by the
early 20th Century Canadian yacht designer TBF Benson. Of Course, the
museum also holds about 40,000 ships plans, including the
entire archives of the Montreal naval architecture firm German and Milne,
as well as the archives of Canada Steamship Lines and all the shipyards
with which they were associated. Needless to say, the total drawing
collections of the museum are massive! So that's the background on the
drawing collection.

With regard to the Marine Museum itself, I'm sure everyone is aware that
the museum was evicted from their waterfront property (that property
included the historic dry-dock) in 2016 when the Canadian Federal
government of the day sold our property to a private developer. That
individual took advantage of a provision in our lease agreement with the
government to insist we vacate the property in 120 days. The City of
Kingston eventually provided storage space for the archives (including the
drawings) and artifacts, as well as a small "store front" office location
for the museum in Portsmouth Olympic Harbour, site of the 1976 Olympic
sailing events. Our fortunes increased significantly last year when a
generous benefactor donated enough money to the museum to allow us to buy
our former property (including the dry-dock) back from the developer who
had done nothing with the property over that three year period. Our plan is
to repair the damage done by three years of vandalism and neglect, and at
least move our offices back on the property this spring (Covid permitting).
In the meantime the museum's sailing and C collections were further
enhanced last year with the bequest of the legendary *Red Jacket * to the
Marine Museum by the late Peter Milligan. In addition the Museum has agreed
to accept a 1949 Greavette Int'l 14' Dinghy and a 1965 McCutheon built
Kirby III Int'l Fourteen. Both are in immaculate condition. There is a long
term plan to expand and enlarge the museum over the next 5 years, as well
as the possibility of acquiring another Museum Ship to occupy the dry-dock.
In the meantime, the museum is in the process of upgrading their website (
https://www.marmuseum.ca/). Our goal is to provide a virtual (and
eventually a physical) home for the Canadian Sailing Hall of Fame, (which
is managed by the Marine Museum, working with Sail Canada), initiate a web
based Register of Historic Canadian Sailing Craft, and make the
Cuthbertson, C Yachts, and Hinterhoeller drawings more easily accessible
online. However, these upgrades to the website are being undertaken with
talented volunteer labour, so will take time. When I recently asked
Michelle Clarabut, the Museum's Program and Education Manager (
https://www.marmuseum.ca/about/our-staff), for an update on the website,
Michelle replied:

*What I can say at this point is that Mike is working hard on the Ship
Lists section and the transfer of the remainder of the Museum's online
database (main one) from Queen's (University) in-house 

Stus-List Thank you

[Stu via CnC-List]

Thank you to the subscribers who made a New Year’s Contribution to the list.  
It was unexpected but greatly appreciated.

Stay Safe & Healthy
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Stus-List Re: Happy New Year

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Wow  Ive had a bunch through out the holidays.Sent from my Galaxy
 Original message From: Graham Collins via CnC-List 
 Date: 2021-01-01  20:49  (GMT-04:00) To: CHARLES 
SCHEAFFER via CnC-List  Cc: Graham Collins 
 Subject: Stus-List Re: Happy New Year 
OK, so this is the first email I've gotten on the C list in
  weeks.  A good one though.
Happy new year wishes to all!  Hopefully this year is less
  eventful compared with 2020...

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11
On 2021-01-01 7:57 p.m., CHARLES
  SCHEAFFER via CnC-List wrote:


  
   Hi all, 
     
   Hope you all had
  a nice celebration last night and the hang overs weren't too
  bad.  We rarely drive on New Year's Eve, but this year made a
  short trip to my brother-in-laws for an outdoor buffet, bon
  fire, making smores and enjoying fireworks.   
     
   Here's wishing
  you all a better year in 2021.   
     
   Chuck S 
  
  
  Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help 
with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

  

Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu