Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

I had Imzadi painted with Alexseal paint about 5 years ago, on the 
recommendation of the guys who were doing the painting. It seems to be an 
equivalent to Awlgrip in shine and (at least on their experience using it) 
durability, at about half the cost of Awlgrip. They also said it is a bit 
easier to apply. It still cost me about $125 a foot to get the boat painted.

 

I rolled and tipped a Tanzer about 12 years ago using Rustoleum marine enamel. 
Practical Sailor did paint test/comparison, and recommended Valspar industrial 
enamel over Brightside as the best one part paint. I seem to recall that, 
besides being less expensive, you can tint the Valspar to achieve a custom 
color. Rustoleum was the Practical Sailor best buy. $11 a quart vs. $40+, and 
just as shiny. The Tanzer still looks good, except for some scratches. It was 
the first boat I ever rolled and tipped, and that was pretty easy on a small 
hull. Much easier than spraying.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:15 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

 

If you are paying someone to paint your boat, it will be expensive even with 
latex house paint. Don’t pay a pro big $$$ to spray on crappy paint.

There are cheaper marine paints around. Isn’t AlexSeal a lower price boat 
paint? Rustoleum makes lower cost boat paint as well.

* I think some work boats actually do get painted with exterior house paint, 
they know the boats will get beat on and thus not worth a yacht level finish.

 

My Imron paint was done in 1987 and looks decent where the boat hasn’t got 
scratched up (hit and run in Annapolis)

 

 

Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I

www.dellabarba.com  

 

 

 

 

 

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Stus-List Re: Deck painting

[Matthew via CnC-List]

Bob:

 

Not a very helpful answer, but I think it depends on how you 
want to go about it -- there is no universal answer.  In my mind, it makes 
sense to do C decks all at once if you can because the deck is one color.  
Some boats, however (like my brother’s older Cal 33), have different color 
non-skid and non-non-skid (or, eliminating the double negative, “skid”).  He 
re-did certain areas of the non-skid (blue) in stages.  When he was done with 
that, he went back and did the skid (white).  He did the entire job himself 
over a few years, and it looks very good (the five-foot test).

 

Matt  

 

From: Bob Mann via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 8:05 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bob Mann 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Deck painting

 

I understand about putting on non-skid, but isn't the complete deck painted 
first using the non-skid paint, prior to taping off and painting as non-skid? 
Or is the deck painted completely with one paint, taped off and non-skid 
painted using a different paint? 

  

Bob 

On 02/25/2021 7:57 PM Peter McMinn via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: 

  

  

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[Bob Mann via CnC-List]

I understand about putting on non-skid, but isn't the complete deck painted 
first using the non-skid paint, prior to taping off and painting as non-skid? 
Or is the deck painted completely with one paint, taped off and non-skid 
painted using a different paint?

Bob

> On 02/25/2021 7:57 PM Peter McMinn via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>  
>  
> Charlie,
> Same question for me (37). The previous owner did wonderful prep and 
> taping, but coverage is thin. I’ll probably put on another coat of Kiwi.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 4:10 PM cenelson via CnC-List < 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> 
> > > My deck is mostly covered with non-skid Kiwi-Grip which I 
> had a applied by a local yard at least 5 years ago—likely more like 8-10–and 
> it still is in great shape.
> >  
> > OTOH, the non-non skid needs some serious work! However there is so 
> > little of it, it’s almost like ‘trim’ and taping it off would be time and 
> > money consuming if done by a yard.
> >  
> > I am considering having it done by someone without taping all the 
> > non-skid off and using a high quality paint, single or 2 part paint and a 
> > brush.
> >  
> > Is this likely to work for a decent 10 ft look or is it likely to 
> > be a disaster?
> >  
> > Any recommendations on 1 or 2 part paints, manufacturers, etc.
> >  
> > Charlie Nelson
> > Water Phantom
> > 1995 C 36 XL/kcb
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Stus-List Re: Deck painting

[Peter McMinn via CnC-List]

Charlie,
Same question for me (37). The previous owner did wonderful prep and
taping, but coverage is thin. I’ll probably put on another coat of Kiwi.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 4:10 PM cenelson via CnC-List 
wrote:

> My deck is mostly covered with non-skid Kiwi-Grip which I had a applied by
> a local yard at least 5 years ago—likely more like 8-10–and it still is in
> great shape.
>
> OTOH, the non-non skid needs some serious work! However there is so little
> of it, it’s almost like ‘trim’ and taping it off would be time and money
> consuming if done by a yard.
>
> I am considering having it done by someone without taping all the non-skid
> off and using a high quality paint, single or 2 part paint and a brush.
>
> Is this likely to work for a decent 10 ft look or is it likely to be a
> disaster?
>
> Any recommendations on 1 or 2 part paints, manufacturers, etc.
>
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> 1995 C 36 XL/kcb
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Deck painting

[cenelson via CnC-List]

My deck is mostly covered with non-skid Kiwi-Grip which I had a applied by a 
local yard at least 5 years ago—likely more like 8-10–and it still is in great 
shape.
OTOH, the non-non skid needs some serious work! However there is so little of 
it, it’s almost like ‘trim’ and taping it off would be time and money consuming 
if done by a yard.
I am considering having it done by someone without taping all the non-skid off 
and using a high quality paint, single or 2 part paint and a brush.
Is this likely to work for a decent 10 ft look or is it likely to be a disaster?
Any recommendations on 1 or 2 part paints, manufacturers, etc.
Charlie NelsonWater Phantom1995 C 36 XL/kcb



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Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

[J.P. via CnC-List]

Hi All,

 

I looked at this gadget recently to “protect” bottom paint… any validity to it?

 

https://sonihull.com/sonihull-systems/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_pWgt4uG7wIVSSCtBh2N6AKZEAAYASAAEgIu8fD_BwE
 

 

JP

S/V Alethea

C 43-1

 

From: dukatolla--- via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 2:14 PM
To: Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
Cc: dukato...@hotmail.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

 

Ron have you looked into a 3m wrap? 

 

My Awlgrip is 20+ yrs old and only blemished b/w the Boot and Cove stripes.

 

I'm looking into for my old girl.

 

Cheers

 

JW

 

1970 C

1979 C

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Thursday, February 25, 2021, 04:31:56 p.m. EST, Ronald B. Frerker via 
CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: 

 

 

That's a believeable story, especially if I were having it done at a place like 
PJs in Chicago.  But here on the prairie in southern IL, we don't have the 
expertise and labor is cheaper.

But I agree, if the labor is going to be costly, then it makes sense to go 
first class with the paint.

I may end up having to just roll and tip and get one of those 10ft paint jobs 
(where it looks good from 10ft away).

Ron

Wild Cheri

C 30-1

STL

 

 

On Thursday, February 25, 2021, 02:36:50 PM CST, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: 

 

 

I reviewed the invoices for painting Touche's topsides in 2011 and 2020.  The 
paint was less than 12% of the total cost.  Labor, prep, etc. dwarfed the paint 
cost.

 

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Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

[dukatolla--- via CnC-List]

 Ron have you looked into a 3m wrap? 
My Awlgrip is 20+ yrs old and only blemished b/w the Boot and Cove stripes.
I'm looking into for my old girl.
Cheers
JW
1970 C C





On Thursday, February 25, 2021, 04:31:56 p.m. EST, Ronald B. Frerker via 
CnC-List  wrote:  
 
  That's a believeable story, especially if I were having it done at a place 
like PJs in Chicago.  But here on the prairie in southern IL, we don't have the 
expertise and labor is cheaper.But I agree, if the labor is going to be costly, 
then it makes sense to go first class with the paint.I may end up having to 
just roll and tip and get one of those 10ft paint jobs (where it looks good 
from 10ft away).RonWild CheriC 30-1STL

On Thursday, February 25, 2021, 02:36:50 PM CST, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 I reviewed the invoices for painting Touche's topsides in 2011 and 2020.  The 
paint was less than 12% of the total cost.  Labor, prep, etc. dwarfed the paint 
cost.
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Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

 That's a believeable story, especially if I were having it done at a place 
like PJs in Chicago.  But here on the prairie in southern IL, we don't have the 
expertise and labor is cheaper.But I agree, if the labor is going to be costly, 
then it makes sense to go first class with the paint.I may end up having to 
just roll and tip and get one of those 10ft paint jobs (where it looks good 
from 10ft away).RonWild CheriC 30-1STL

On Thursday, February 25, 2021, 02:36:50 PM CST, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 I reviewed the invoices for painting Touche's topsides in 2011 and 2020.  The 
paint was less than 12% of the total cost.  Labor, prep, etc. dwarfed the paint 
cost.
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Stus-List Re: Virtual Rendezvous

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Stil would like Tuesday. 

All the best, 

Edd

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Friday better for me
 
Chuck Scheaffer
> On 02/25/2021 11:33 AM Stu via CnC-List  wrote:
>  
>  
> Looks like a real toss-up for Tues or Wed.  How about Thurs or Friday?
>  
> Stay safe and healthy
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Stus-List Re: Virtual Rendezvous

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Friday better for me

Chuck Scheaffer

> On 02/25/2021 11:33 AM Stu via CnC-List  wrote:
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>  
> Looks like a real toss-up for Tues or Wed.  How about Thurs or Friday?
>  
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Stus-List Re: Virtual Rendezvous

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

Sure...Tuesday is better for me; but either work.

The bigger obstacle is me not remembering to attend!

Tom B

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rendezvous next week – say Tues or Wed nite?


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Stus-List Re: Virtual Rendezvous

[Joel Delamirande via CnC-List]

Thursday and Friday for me
Wednesday I’m always in a meeting

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 12:32 PM John Conklin via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Sorry Only Tues wed a long shot next week
> Other weeks Any day works
>
> John Conklin
> S/V Halcyon
> S/V Heartbeat
>
> On Feb 25, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Stu via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Looks like a real toss-up for Tues or Wed.  How about Thurs or Friday?
>
> Stay safe and healthy
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[John Conklin via CnC-List]

Sorry Only Tues wed a long shot next week 
Other weeks Any day works 

John Conklin 
S/V Halcyon 
S/V Heartbeat

> On Feb 25, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Stu via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> 
> Looks like a real toss-up for Tues or Wed.  How about Thurs or Friday?
>  
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Stus-List Re: Virtual Rendezvous

[Donald Kern via CnC-List]

Stu
any day except Mon & Tue are good for me.
Don


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Looks like a real toss-up for Tues or Wed.  How about Thurs or Friday?
Stay safe and healthy
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Stus-List Re: Virtual Rendezvous

[Matthew via CnC-List]

Only Thursday for me.

 

From: Stu via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 11:34 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Stu 
Subject: Stus-List Virtual Rendezvous

 

Looks like a real toss-up for Tues or Wed.  How about Thurs or Friday?

 

Stay safe and healthy

Stu

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[Stu via CnC-List]

Looks like a real toss-up for Tues or Wed.  How about Thurs or Friday?

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[Donald Kern via CnC-List]

Stu
Wednesday OK for me.. I have a Dave Perry racing on Tuesday
Don


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Stus-List Re: Virtual Rendezvous

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I can do either AFAIK

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Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:14 AM
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Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Virtual Rendezvous

Stu,

Tuesday works for me, but not Wednesday.
All the best,

Edd



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Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

[Glen Eddie via CnC-List]

Agreed.  Bristol in Ontario told me it would be in the range of 25K CDN for 
just a deck  about 4 years ago.

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Subject: Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

I reviewed the invoices for painting Touche's topsides in 2011 and 2020.  The 
paint was less than 12% of the total cost.  Labor, prep, etc. dwarfed the paint 
cost.
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Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

If you are paying someone to paint your boat, it will be expensive even with 
latex house paint. Don’t pay a pro big $$$ to spray on crappy paint.
There are cheaper marine paints around. Isn’t AlexSeal a lower price boat 
paint? Rustoleum makes lower cost boat paint as well.
* I think some work boats actually do get painted with exterior house paint, 
they know the boats will get beat on and thus not worth a yacht level finish.

My Imron paint was done in 1987 and looks decent where the boat hasn’t got 
scratched up (hit and run in Annapolis)


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[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Stu,

Tuesday works for me, but not Wednesday. 

All the best, 

Edd

———-
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
———-
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On Feb 25, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Stu via CnC-List  wrote:


Is anyone interested in a virtual Zoom rendezvous next week – say Tues or Wed 
nite?
 
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Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I reviewed the invoices for painting Touche's topsides in 2011 and 2020.
The paint was less than 12% of the total cost.  Labor, prep, etc. dwarfed
the paint cost.
-- 
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Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Automotive paint formulas have changed from oil based to water based over
the last few years.  While paint companies offer both, most body shops and
all the car companies have switched to water based paint because it is
easier on the environment.  I don't know how that impacts longevity in a
marine environment, but if you are looking at other boats be sure you are
comparing similar auto paints.

Joel.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 9:47 AM Robert Abbott via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Ron
>
> A club member had his Kirby 25 painted with auto paint in an auto repair
> shophe chose a dark green colorthe boat looks as good today as it
> did right after the paint job and that was some +12 years ago.  He named
> the boat 'Yellow Kirby' because it was that was the color before painting
> it.
>
> Next time I see him I will ask the brand of the paint.at the time he
> said it was a 'truck color'.
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - #277
> Halifax, N.S.
>
>
>
> On 2021-02-24 11:20 p.m., Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Well, the old Wild Cheri is in bad need of a new paint job.  But rather
> than a regular expensive marine paint, here's an interesting question:
> Since Corvettes and other cars are either fiberglass or plastic these days,
> couldn't some kind of auto paint work as well on the deck and hull?
> I would imagine auto paint would be less expensive since it's used so
> often and so widespread.
> Any downside the list can think of?
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C 30-1
> STL
>
>
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Stus-List Re: Virtual Rendezvous

[Matthew via CnC-List]

I teach a class on Tuesday evenings.  That said, go with what’s most convenient 
for the majority.

 

From: Stu via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 9:15 AM
To: C Email List 
Cc: Stu 
Subject: Stus-List Virtual Rendezvous

 

Is anyone interested in a virtual Zoom rendezvous next week – say Tues or Wed 
nite?

 

Stay safe & healthy

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Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Have to go along with the consensus to not pay much attention to the actual 
cost of the paint. Looking at the overall cost of the paint job would be the 
better metric.

My paint costs which were for a gallon of primer, a gallon of custom topcoat 
base, reducers for both, wax and grease remover and surface cleaner, all 
AwlGrip (AwlCraft in my case) came to 3.3% of the entire job.

You shouldn’t need to buy in the same quantities as I did because I have plenty 
left. If anyone is interested.  :-)

Regards,
Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
1998 Mast & Mallet Thomas Point 34 - Katana

> On Feb 25, 2021, at 9:05 AM, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> The paint costs are but a mere fraction of the paint job.  After all that $ 
> that goes into prep, I would not scrimp on the paint.
>  
> From: Alan Liles via CnC-List  > 
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 12:42 AM
> To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Cc: Alan Liles mailto:lilesal...@gmail.com>>
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question
>  
> I had a boat painted with Imron. I was very happy with it. It was somewhat 
> cheaper than Awlgrip but you need supplied fresh air when spraying as it’s 
> fairly toxic. 
> 
> Al Liles
> SV Elendil, C 37/40+
> Vancouver 
>  
> 
> On Feb 24, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> 
> Well, the old Wild Cheri is in bad need of a new paint job.  But rather than 
> a regular expensive marine paint, here's an interesting question:  Since 
> Corvettes and other cars are either fiberglass or plastic these days, 
> couldn't some kind of auto paint work as well on the deck and hull?
> I would imagine auto paint would be less expensive since it's used so often 
> and so widespread.
> Any downside the list can think of?
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C 30-1
> STL
>  
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Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

Ron

A club member had his Kirby 25 painted with auto paint in an auto repair 
shophe chose a dark green colorthe boat looks as good today as 
it did right after the paint job and that was some +12 years ago.  He 
named the boat 'Yellow Kirby' because it was that was the color before 
painting it.


Next time I see him I will ask the brand of the paint.at the time he 
said it was a 'truck color'.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.



On 2021-02-24 11:20 p.m., Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List wrote:
Well, the old Wild Cheri is in bad need of a new paint job.  But 
rather than a regular expensive marine paint, here's an interesting 
question:  Since Corvettes and other cars are either fiberglass or 
plastic these days, couldn't some kind of auto paint work as well on 
the deck and hull?
I would imagine auto paint would be less expensive since it's used so 
often and so widespread.

Any downside the list can think of?
Ron
Wild Cheri
C 30-1
STL


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Stus-List Re: Virtual Rendezvous

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Interested either day.

Chuck Scheaffer

> On 02/25/2021 9:28 AM David Knecht via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>  
>  
> I am interested and can do Tuesday but not Wednesday.  Dave
> 
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
> > > On Feb 25, 2021, at 9:22 AM, John Conklin via CnC-List < 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > Available Tuesday Only but would love to join on 
> >  
> > John Conklin
> > 
> > 
> > > > > On Feb 25, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Stu via CnC-List 
> > < cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > > Is anyone interested in a virtual Zoom rendezvous next week – 
> > > say Tues or Wed nite?
> > >  
> > > Stay safe & healthy
> > > Stu
> > >  
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Stus-List Re: Virtual Rendezvous

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

I am interested and can do Tuesday but not Wednesday.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



> On Feb 25, 2021, at 9:22 AM, John Conklin via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Available Tuesday Only but would love to join on 
> 
> John Conklin
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Stu via CnC-List > > wrote:
>> 
>> Is anyone interested in a virtual Zoom rendezvous next week – say Tues or 
>> Wed nite?
>>  
>> Stay safe & healthy
>> Stu
>>  
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>> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
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> 
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Stus-List Re: Virtual Rendezvous

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

Available Tuesday Only but would love to join on

John Conklin

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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Virtual Rendezvous

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I am ☺

Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com



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Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

[David Risch via CnC-List]

The paint costs are but a mere fraction of the paint job.  After all that $ 
that goes into prep, I would not scrimp on the paint.

From: Alan Liles via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 12:42 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Alan Liles 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

I had a boat painted with Imron. I was very happy with it. It was somewhat 
cheaper than Awlgrip but you need supplied fresh air when spraying as it's 
fairly toxic.

Al Liles
SV Elendil, C 37/40+
Vancouver


On Feb 24, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Well, the old Wild Cheri is in bad need of a new paint job.  But rather than a 
regular expensive marine paint, here's an interesting question:  Since 
Corvettes and other cars are either fiberglass or plastic these days, couldn't 
some kind of auto paint work as well on the deck and hull?
I would imagine auto paint would be less expensive since it's used so often and 
so widespread.
Any downside the list can think of?
Ron
Wild Cheri
C 30-1
STL

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Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

[schiller via CnC-List]

Corsair (Redwing 35) was painted with Imron in 1984.  We bought her in 
1996 and she was still shining up great in 2017 when we broke her.  All 
I ever did is cleaned and polished with Aurora Boat Shine.


Neil Schiller
1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan

On 2/25/2021 8:13 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
It was rumored that Touche' had been painted with Imron before I 
bought it.  Could never verify it.


  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 11:42 PM Alan Liles via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


I had a boat painted with Imron. I was very happy with it. It was
somewhat cheaper than Awlgrip but you need supplied fresh air when
spraying as it’s fairly toxic.

Al Liles




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Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

[Matthew via CnC-List]

Ron:

 

My first boat was a Ranger 26.  Shortly after I purchased it, I had it 
re-painted with white Imron (about 30 years ago).  The boat is kept at the same 
facility as mine, and the hull still looks good.  Recently, the current owner 
had the deck re-painted.  It looks great, but I suspect it’s not Imron.  I 
would think Imron is too slippery for deck paint.

 

Matt

C 42 Custom

 

From: Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List  
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 10:20 PM
To: Neil Gallagher via CnC-List 
Cc: Ronald B. Frerker 
Subject: Stus-List Painting substitution question

 

Well, the old Wild Cheri is in bad need of a new paint job.  But rather than a 
regular expensive marine paint, here's an interesting question:  Since 
Corvettes and other cars are either fiberglass or plastic these days, couldn't 
some kind of auto paint work as well on the deck and hull?

I would imagine auto paint would be less expensive since it's used so often and 
so widespread.

Any downside the list can think of?

Ron

Wild Cheri

C 30-1

STL

 

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Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

It was rumored that Touche' had been painted with Imron before I bought
it.  Could never verify it.

  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 11:42 PM Alan Liles via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I had a boat painted with Imron. I was very happy with it. It was somewhat
> cheaper than Awlgrip but you need supplied fresh air when spraying as it’s
> fairly toxic.
>
> Al Liles
>
>
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Stus-List Re: Painting substitution question

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

I think that scrimping  on paint will be detrimental, because if you look
at older cars, fading and paint failure is very common, especially here in
the south where we get a lot of sun. That paint also won't take the abuse
that Imron will.

I understand your thinking, and can even easily see that it would probably
be very easy to apply well, since so many cars are painted every year.
Heck, if you find the right body repair guy, a few cases of beer and
promises to go sailing might even get the job done (as long as you do the
prep work).

So, if you are up north, if you don’t want to spend the $ for professional
application (I consider it beyond my capabilities), and the boat isn't
worth the $, it probably isn't a bad solution as long as you realize what
you'll have when you're done.

I guess I'm talking out both sides of my mouth,

Bruce Whitmore
1994 C 37/40+
"Astralis"
Madeira Beach, FL
(847) 404-5092
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Stus-List Re: 1984 Landfall 43

[Kevin Wright via CnC-List]

Hi Joel,
If the 43 works out I will be selling the 25. Send me an email if you
are interested.
kcwright...@gmail.com
1976 C 25
Windance III
Hamilton ON



On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 9:13 PM Joel Delamirande via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Are you selling yours ?
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 9:51 AM Kevin Wright via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> I've been reading the list for years, bought a 1976 25 three years ago
>> and am now looking at a 1984 Landfall 43. Thought it would be a good time
>> to reach out to the list.
>> I haven't been able to find much info online. Does anybody have any info
>> on the build/layup, particular around the chainplates? Any other info on
>> the boat would be great as well.
>> Thanks
>> Kevin Wright
>>
>> 1976 C 25
>> Windance III
>> Hamilton ON
>>
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>
> --
> Joel Delamirande
> *www.jdroofing.ca *
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