Stus-List Re: Deck hold -down?

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

On our 35-2, the area around the mast collar had wet core, and was repaired
(drilled & filled with epoxy) by the previous owner 20 years ago. This area
is now very solid, basically all epoxy. The mast collar has 4 bolts through
the deck, but also a SS strap on each side, and these are connected below
decks with a bolt though the mast, so most of the upward force on the
collar is transferred to the mast, not the deck. Just had the mast out for
the first time in 20 years when the work was done, and it still seems very
solid.

Possibly adding the straps between the mast and collar (if they are absent)
might help with your deck compression issue.

--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 10:06 AM Steve Thomas via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have a C&C36 MK1, 1980 version, with the same problem. Starboard is
> worse than port but both stick up. When I bought the boat it had been
> sitting in the water at a Florida marina, untended for several years. There
> were 2 things I noticed that I think might be related. One is that the rig,
> though pinned, was quite loose at the time of purchase and one of the first
> things I did was take the slack out, not super tight, but snug. Two, there
> appears to be a lot of pressure exerted on the deck by the mast collar
> through the mast tangs and it looks like it is pulled down a quarter of an
> inch or more by looking at the headliner. My first suspicion was that there
> is rotten wood under the mast step but I can see no evidence of it and have
> not had the opportunity to unstep the mast yet. Perhaps the hull
> permanently deforms over time? I have thought of putting a shim in the step
> to bring the collar back up a bit.
>
> Steve Thomas
>
> Waiting out the pandemic in Ontario.
> -- Original Message --
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> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: rodf...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 7:24 AM
> Subject: Stus-List Deck hold -down?
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a C&C 36-1. There are stainless strap assemblies bolted through the
> main bulkhead port and starboard. These are welded to stainless pads bolted
> through the deck. I have removed the mounting bolts and the holes in the
> bulkhead are not elongated yet there is a gap of about 5/16" under the
> plate on the deck above. What is this for? I am guessing a deck hold--down,
> yet the deck appears to be firmly in contact with the bulkhead below. Has
> anyone else seen this? What have you done about it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rod Fisk
> C&C 36 Corsair
> Oshkosh, WI
>
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Stus-List Re: Argo

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

I was very active on Active Captain (they sent me a free hat), and Garmin
managed to lose my identity. I just never went back.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 at 11:54, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I know some of us here had been members of Active Captain, it seems to
> have fallen out of favour since Garmin acquired it. Guess Jeff Siegel was
> more integral than they thought. But he did get quite a payday.
>
> Anyways, just noticed that Argo may be taking its place –
>
>
>
> Argo Navigation , the boating app for
> destination routing and connecting with other boaters, announced that is
> has reached 25,000 app users.
>
> The Argo app is free to use and has grown from more than 1,000 users a
> year ago.
>
> “Our boating app community started with Chesapeake Bay area boaters in
> 2019, but today we also have Argo users from New England to Florida and
> throughout the Great Lakes and Canada regions,” Jeff Foulk, founder of Argo
> Navigation, *said in a statement
> *.
> “We rely on boater feedback to continually build upon Argo’s navigation
> features and social functionality with new app releases that enable our
> active boating community to realize our vision to *boat better together*.”
>
>
> According to the company, the app is on pace to increase its community of
> boaters across the U.S. and Canada to more than 50,000 by mid-summer.
>
> With the Argo app, boaters can autoroute or create a route based on a
> boat’s draft, which makes navigation safer and easier. The app includes an
> option to manually plot routes or navigate using the app’s NOAA ENC Chart.
>
> Argo’s Captain’s Log tracks planned or past voyages, favorite destinations
> and more. Detailed listings in the app make it easy to find new
> destinations, restaurants or marinas and users can access crowdsourced
> boating info, navigation advice and destination reviews.
>
> Further, Argo users can drop pins on the map for real-time alerts to other
> boaters about hazards, points of interest and more.
>
> Enhanced social features allow boaters to easily connect with Facebook
> friends and other boaters and share places, voyages, photos and posts via
> the app’s social feed, which the company said makes the app ideal for yacht
> clubs and boating groups.
>
> Argo is available to download for free for phone or tablet on the App
> Store or Google Play.
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> Entrada, Erie, PA
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Stus-List Re: Deck hold -down?

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

Hi Rod

 

Our 34 uses the same construction.  The tangs are to hold the deck and bulkhead 
together.  Mine were leaking a bit some 20 years ago so pulled them, rebedded 
with butyl so there was flex.  No leaks since

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT

 

 

 

From: Rod Fisk via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2021 7:25 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rod Fisk
Subject: Stus-List Deck hold -down?

 

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I have a C&C 36-1. There are stainless strap assemblies bolted through the main 
bulkhead  port and starboard. These are welded to stainless pads bolted through 
the deck. I have removed the mounting bolts and the holes in the bulkhead are 
not elongated yet there is a gap of about 5/16" under the plate on the deck 
above. What is this for? I am guessing a deck hold--down, yet the deck appears 
to be firmly in contact with the bulkhead below. Has anyone else seen this? 
What have you done about it?

 

Thanks

 

Rod Fisk

C&C 36 Corsair

Oshkosh, WI

 

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Stus-List Argo

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

I know some of us here had been members of Active Captain, it seems to have 
fallen out of favour since Garmin acquired it. Guess Jeff Siegel was more 
integral than they thought. But he did get quite a payday.

Anyways, just noticed that Argo may be taking its place – 

 

Argo Navigation  , the boating app for destination 
routing and connecting with other boaters, announced that is has reached 25,000 
app users. 

The Argo app is free to use and has grown from more than 1,000 users a year 
ago. 

“Our boating app community started with Chesapeake Bay area boaters in 2019, 
but today we also have Argo users from New England to Florida and throughout 
the Great Lakes and Canada regions,” Jeff Foulk, founder of Argo Navigation, 
said in a statement 

 . “We rely on boater feedback to continually build upon Argo’s navigation 
features and social functionality with new app releases that enable our active 
boating community to realize our vision to boat better together.” 

According to the company, the app is on pace to increase its community of 
boaters across the U.S. and Canada to more than 50,000 by mid-summer. 

With the Argo app, boaters can autoroute or create a route based on a boat’s 
draft, which makes navigation safer and easier. The app includes an option to 
manually plot routes or navigate using the app’s NOAA ENC Chart. 

Argo’s Captain’s Log tracks planned or past voyages, favorite destinations and 
more. Detailed listings in the app make it easy to find new destinations, 
restaurants or marinas and users can access crowdsourced boating info, 
navigation advice and destination reviews. 

Further, Argo users can drop pins on the map for real-time alerts to other 
boaters about hazards, points of interest and more. 

Enhanced social features allow boaters to easily connect with Facebook friends 
and other boaters and share places, voyages, photos and posts via the app’s 
social feed, which the company said makes the app ideal for yacht clubs and 
boating groups. 

Argo is available to download for free for phone or tablet on the App Store or 
Google Play.

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

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Stus-List Re: Deck hold -down?

[Steve Thomas via CnC-List]

I have a C&C36 MK1, 1980 version, with the same problem. Starboard is 
worse than port but both stick up. When I bought the boat it had been 
sitting in the water at a Florida marina, untended for several years. 
There were 2 things I noticed that I think might be related. One is that 
the rig, though pinned, was quite loose at the time of purchase and one 
of the first things I did was take the slack out, not super tight, but 
snug. Two, there appears to be a lot of pressure exerted on the deck by 
the mast collar through the mast tangs and it looks like it is pulled 
down a quarter of an inch or more by looking at the headliner. My first 
suspicion was that there is rotten wood under the mast step but I can 
see no evidence of it and have not had the opportunity to unstep the 
mast yet. Perhaps the hull permanently deforms over time? I have thought 
of putting a shim in the step to bring the collar back up a bit.


Steve Thomas
Waiting out the pandemic in Ontario.
-- Original Message --
   From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
   To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: rodf...@gmail.com
   Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 7:24 AM
   Subject: Stus-List Deck hold -down?






















I have a C&C 36-1. There are stainless strap assemblies bolted through 
the main bulkhead  port and starboard. These are welded to stainless 
pads bolted through the deck. I have removed the mounting bolts and the 
holes in the bulkhead are not elongated yet there is a gap of about 
5/16" under the plate on the deck above. What is this for? I am guessing 
a deck hold--down, yet the deck appears to be firmly in contact with the 
bulkhead below. Has anyone else seen this? What have you done about it?



Thanks


Rod Fisk
C&C 36 Corsair
Oshkosh, WI



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Stus-List Re: Deck hold -down?

[Donald Kern via CnC-List]

Shawn, My new holding tank is located on centerline below the v-berth.  
It was the largest I could fit through the aft access after removing the 
covers support pieces.  A little bit more plumbing lines required, a 
further forward than I like, but it is pumped out before racing for free 
- thank you Bristol Marine Center keeping our waters clean.


Don Kern
/Fireball, /C&C35 Mk2
Bristol, RI


On 6/9/2021 11:18 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote:
Interesting, Don. Mine has some signs of patched holes on the deck, 
but I haven't been able to see anything below on the bulkheads. 
Possibly the deck holes are from something else.


So the holding tank was originally in that outboard area in the head? 
That explains the large hose hole at the bottom. My holding tank is 
now under the vberth, port side. It's a 16USG Kracor that fits ok, 
with a bit of crude surgery done to the plywood by a previous owner.




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Stus-List Re: Deck hold -down?

[Matthew via CnC-List]

I had them on my 1978 C&C 34, which is very similar to the 36 of the same
vintage.  My understanding was that they secured the deck to interior
bulkheads, but who knows.  I did not remove or seriously inspect any to
confirm.  I do know that boats of that vintage had a bulkhead tabbing
problem.  We had to push the main salon bulkheads back into place (using a
jack), re-tab the bulkheads, and put a wooden reinforcement piece between
the bulkheads at the top so the door would function properly.

 

Perhaps Rob Ball can enlighten us.

 

From: David Risch via CnC-List  
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2021 11:34 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: David Risch 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Deck hold -down?

 

There would not be as these deck straps were installed in the 1980s boats,
e.g. mine is 1981.

 

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Stus-List Re: Deck hold -down?

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

That explains why I can't find any holes below. Thanks, I will stop looking
for them, although it does make me wonder what the holes on deck were for.
Possibly mounts for the spin pole, or furling line fairleads, which used to
run along the base of the cabin top I think.
--

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 8:34 AM David Risch via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> There would not be as these deck straps were installed in the 1980s boats,
> e.g. mine is 1981.
>
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Re: Deck hold -down?

[David Risch via CnC-List]

There would not be as these deck straps were installed in the 1980s boats, e.g. 
mine is 1981.

From: Donald Kern via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 10:49 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Donald Kern 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Deck hold -down?

Like Shawn's boat mine is also C&C 35 Mk2 (1974), but there is no indications 
of deck straps ever being installed.  Two years ago I removed the failed 
holding tank from its outboard location behind the outboard mahogany paneling. 
This required removing most of the head cabinetry, all of which was unattached 
to the overhead and only floating in the overhead's channels.  The only item 
that appears to secure the deck away from the the toe-rail are the hang tangs 
that are thru bolted to the mast.  The mast was removed since the boat winters 
in my side yard.  Also re-tabbed all the forward v-berth structures, since 
three quarters of the screws had worked loose due to hull flexing.  Yes the 
boat creaks when sailing, but after 40 years of sailing her you ignore that 
noise (also failing hearing??).

Don Kern
Fireball, C&C35 Mk2
Bristol, RI
On 6/9/2021 10:15 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote:
My 35 mk2 apparently had these, but they have been removed. I have not seen a 
close up of any boats that still had them, so would be interested in some 
photos. I don't see any signs that anything was done to replace them with any 
kind if adhesive; the holes are just filled on the deck. The bulkheads do creak 
a bit as they move in the channels in the fiberglass liner, while under sail in 
a sea, or as they deck expands and contracts in the morning and evening, but I 
don't know if the straps would have made a difference for this. The space you 
describe under the deck pad may indicate a problem, although I can't imagine 
why this would happen, unless the deck is cored at that point and has 
collapsed, but 5/16" is quite a lot.
--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 4:25 AM Rod Fisk via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I have a C&C 36-1. There are stainless strap assemblies bolted through the main 
bulkhead  port and starboard. These are welded to stainless pads bolted through 
the deck. I have removed the mounting bolts and the holes in the bulkhead are 
not elongated yet there is a gap of about 5/16" under the plate on the deck 
above. What is this for? I am guessing a deck hold--down, yet the deck appears 
to be firmly in contact with the bulkhead below. Has anyone else seen this? 
What have you done about it?

Thanks

Rod Fisk
C&C 36 Corsair
Oshkosh, WI

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Stus-List Re: Deck hold -down?

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Interesting, Don. Mine has some signs of patched holes on the deck, but I
haven't been able to see anything below on the bulkheads. Possibly the deck
holes are from something else.

So the holding tank was originally in that outboard area in the head? That
explains the large hose hole at the bottom. My holding tank is now under
the vberth, port side. It's a 16USG Kracor that fits ok, with a bit of
crude surgery done to the plywood by a previous owner.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 7:51 AM Donald Kern  wrote:

> Like Shawn's boat mine is also C&C 35 Mk2 (1974), but there is no
> indications of deck straps ever being installed.  Two years ago I removed
> the failed holding tank from its outboard location behind the outboard
> mahogany paneling. This required removing most of the head cabinetry, all
> of which was unattached to the overhead and only floating in the overhead's
> channels.  The only item that appears to secure the deck away from the the
> toe-rail are the hang tangs that are thru bolted to the mast.  The mast was
> removed since the boat winters in my side yard.  Also re-tabbed all the
> forward v-berth structures, since three quarters of the screws had worked
> loose due to hull flexing.  Yes the boat creaks when sailing, but after 40
> years of sailing her you ignore that noise (also failing hearing??).
>
> Don Kern
> *Fireball, *C&C35 Mk2
> Bristol, RI
>
> On 6/9/2021 10:15 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote:
>
> My 35 mk2 apparently had these, but they have been removed. I have not
> seen a close up of any boats that still had them, so would be interested in
> some photos. I don't see any signs that anything was done to replace them
> with any kind if adhesive; the holes are just filled on the deck. The
> bulkheads do creak a bit as they move in the channels in the fiberglass
> liner, while under sail in a sea, or as they deck expands and contracts in
> the morning and evening, but I don't know if the straps would have made a
> difference for this. The space you describe under the deck pad may indicate
> a problem, although I can't imagine why this would happen, unless the deck
> is cored at that point and has collapsed, but 5/16" is quite a lot.
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 4:25 AM Rod Fisk via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a C&C 36-1. There are stainless strap assemblies bolted through
>> the main bulkhead  port and starboard. These are welded to stainless pads
>> bolted through the deck. I have removed the mounting bolts and the holes in
>> the bulkhead are not elongated yet there is a gap of about 5/16" under the
>> plate on the deck above. What is this for? I am guessing a deck hold--down,
>> yet the deck appears to be firmly in contact with the bulkhead below. Has
>> anyone else seen this? What have you done about it?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Rod Fisk
>> C&C 36 Corsair
>> Oshkosh, WI
>>
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>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> Thanks - Stu
>
>
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>
>
>
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Stus-List Re: Deck hold -down?

[Donald Kern via CnC-List]

Like Shawn's boat mine is also C&C 35 Mk2 (1974), but there is no 
indications of deck straps ever being installed.  Two years ago I 
removed the failed holding tank from its outboard location behind the 
outboard mahogany paneling. This required removing most of the head 
cabinetry, all of which was unattached to the overhead and only floating 
in the overhead's channels.  The only item that appears to secure the 
deck away from the the toe-rail are the hang tangs that are thru bolted 
to the mast.  The mast was removed since the boat winters in my side 
yard.  Also re-tabbed all the forward v-berth structures, since three 
quarters of the screws had worked loose due to hull flexing.  Yes the 
boat creaks when sailing, but after 40 years of sailing her you ignore 
that noise (also failing hearing??).


Don Kern
/Fireball, /C&C35 Mk2
Bristol, RI

On 6/9/2021 10:15 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote:
My 35 mk2 apparently had these, but they have been removed. I have not 
seen a close up of any boats that still had them, so would be 
interested in some photos. I don't see any signs that anything was 
done to replace them with any kind if adhesive; the holes are just 
filled on the deck. The bulkheads do creak a bit as they move in the 
channels in the fiberglass liner, while under sail in a sea, or as 
they deck expands and contracts in the morning and evening, but I 
don't know if the straps would have made a difference for this. The 
space you describe under the deck pad may indicate a problem, 
although I can't imagine why this would happen, unless the deck is 
cored at that point and has collapsed, but 5/16" is quite a lot.

--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com 
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto 


On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 4:25 AM Rod Fisk via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:









I have a C&C 36-1. There are stainless strap assemblies bolted
through the main bulkhead  port and starboard. These are welded to
stainless pads bolted through the deck. I have removed
the mounting bolts and the holes in the bulkhead are not elongated
yet there is a gap of about 5/16" under the plate on the deck
above. What is this for? I am guessing a deck hold--down, yet the
deck appears to be firmly in contact with the bulkhead below. Has
anyone else seen this? What have you done about it?

Thanks

Rod Fisk
C&C 36 Corsair
Oshkosh, WI

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Stus-List Re: Deck hold -down?

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

My 35 mk2 apparently had these, but they have been removed. I have not seen
a close up of any boats that still had them, so would be interested in some
photos. I don't see any signs that anything was done to replace them with
any kind if adhesive; the holes are just filled on the deck. The bulkheads
do creak a bit as they move in the channels in the fiberglass liner, while
under sail in a sea, or as they deck expands and contracts in the morning
and evening, but I don't know if the straps would have made a difference
for this. The space you describe under the deck pad may indicate a problem,
although I can't imagine why this would happen, unless the deck is cored at
that point and has collapsed, but 5/16" is quite a lot.
--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 4:25 AM Rod Fisk via CnC-List 
wrote:

>
>
> I have a C&C 36-1. There are stainless strap assemblies bolted through the
> main bulkhead  port and starboard. These are welded to stainless pads
> bolted through the deck. I have removed the mounting bolts and the holes in
> the bulkhead are not elongated yet there is a gap of about 5/16" under the
> plate on the deck above. What is this for? I am guessing a deck hold--down,
> yet the deck appears to be firmly in contact with the bulkhead below. Has
> anyone else seen this? What have you done about it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rod Fisk
> C&C 36 Corsair
> Oshkosh, WI
>
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> - Stu
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Stus-List Re: teak ladder treads

[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

Nice idea

Get Outlook for Android


From: Jeff Nelson via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 3:55:34 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Jeff Nelson 
Subject: Stus-List Re: teak ladder treads

Wow $8/board ft is cheap.  Up here $38/board ft.  Almost cheaper to buy a boat 
with good teak steps
than to replace them.  I priced out lumber for a small bed stand table in white 
oak was going to cost me
$600.  Guess it's time for me to buy a mill.  I have 45 acres of wood 
growing...unfortunately none of it teak.

On 2021-06-06 10:49 a.m., David Risch via CnC-List wrote:
Newport Nautical in RI has hunks of teak of almost perfect size ($8 per?) that 
I table topped sawed out treads then had bottoms routed half the diameter of 
the bar.   Countersunk bolts in tread thru ladder with acorns nuts.   They 
still have teak.

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From: Nate Flesness via CnC-List 

Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 8:19:37 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Nate Flesness 
Subject: Stus-List teak ladder treads

Want to add steps to existing stern boarding ladder. Admiral wants teak steps.
Looks like they are available in Europe, but here all I can find are teak deck 
steps, not ladder rung steps. Anyone know of a source, or failing that, a good 
design I can make myself, attaching by ss hose clamps?

Nate

1980 C&C 30-1
St, Croix River Hudson WI

1994 Tartan 31
Cornucopia, WI




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Stus-List Re: 33-2 chainplates / galvanic corrosion problem

[Jeff Nelson via CnC-List]

Bronze is a relatively soft material, you should have no issues in 
drilling it.  Select a drill bit
that is a 1/16th smaller than the bolt diameter, use a center punch to 
get the middle of the
bolt.  The residual diameter will help guide the bit as you go, and is 
easily broken off afterwards.


If you have enough room, you could grind the head/nut off and use a 
punch to drive out the bolt
as there should be minimal corrosion holding the shaft of the bolt in 
place.  That's how I usually
do through hulls, as there isn't enough room to get leverage, so I just 
grind the outside down to the

hull (carefully) and pop them out.

Good luck.
   Jeff Nelson
   Muir Caileag
   C&C 30 Mk 1 - 549

On 2021-06-08 9:23 a.m., Bruno Lachance via CnC-List wrote:
I will go back to the boat later today and try again to loosen the 
parts. Korbey I thought about using a torch, but honestly I'm afraid 
to do it in this area with the risk of damaging the fiberglass around, 
worst case cause a fire. I have not a lot of space to work around, so 
I would end up eating the bronze bolt instead of the aluminum plate 
when I should be doing the opposite.


I had the idea to drill out the bronze bolts and try to save the 
aluminum custom part. I could easily replace the bolts by SS ones. I 
liked the higher end looking bronze, but i cannot see why 316 SS would 
not be fine with tefgel between the Al and SS. Is drilling bronze tricky?


I may keep this idea in the bag, but if i go forward with more 
intrusive methods i will do it at the end of the season.


Other ideas still welcome, but I guess there is not magic trick out there.

Thank you.

Bruno Lachance
Bécassine, 33-2
New-Richmond, Qc

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Le 7 juin 2021 à 11:54, Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> a écrit :



Try a MAP gas torch

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*Sent:* Monday, June 7, 2021 7:52:40 AM
*To:* Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
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*Subject:* Stus-List Re: 33-2 chainplates / galvanic corrosion problem
You may need to get more aggressive with heat.  Try a MAP gas torch.

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*Cc:* Bruno Lachance >

*Subject:* Stus-List 33-2 chainplates / galvanic corrosion problem

Hi,

I want to remove my starboard side chainplate "assembly" for 
inspection / maintenance/ sealing. The 33-2 has a unique system, with 
a stainless steel part ondeck, trough bolted with bronze bolts to an 
aluminum block / backing plate inside that connects to an adjustable rod.


The problem i have is the galvanic corrosion that occured between the 
bronze blots and the alumimun backing plate. The thickness is maybe 
around 1/2 inch and everyting is stuck together. i was able to undo 
the nuts and i see the white corrosion that fused the bolts to the 
aluminum block.


So far I sprayed white vinegar with water, i used some heat from a 
heat gun, and a hammer with a block of hard wood. nothing happened...


Any other ideas on how to break this loose ? what are my options if i 
dont want to detroy the parts or the deck!


At this point i kind of wish i never started but at this point i'm 
afraid to get a leak that could damage the balsa.


i know i'm looking for a miracle, but i have faith in you!

Thank you.

Bruno Lachance
Bécassine, 33-2
New-Richmond, Qc

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Stus-List Re: teak ladder treads

[Jeff Nelson via CnC-List]

Wow $8/board ft is cheap.  Up here $38/board ft.  Almost cheaper to buy 
a boat with good teak steps
than to replace them.  I priced out lumber for a small bed stand table 
in white oak was going to cost me
$600.  Guess it's time for me to buy a mill.  I have 45 acres of wood 
growing...unfortunately none of it teak.


On 2021-06-06 10:49 a.m., David Risch via CnC-List wrote:
Newport Nautical in RI has hunks of teak of almost perfect size ($8 
per?) that I table topped sawed out treads then had bottoms routed 
half the diameter of the bar.   Countersunk bolts in tread thru ladder 
with acorns nuts.   They still have teak.


Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.


*From:* Nate Flesness via CnC-List 
*Sent:* Saturday, June 5, 2021 8:19:37 PM
*To:* Stus-List 
*Cc:* Nate Flesness 
*Subject:* Stus-List teak ladder treads
Want to add steps to existing stern boarding ladder. Admiral wants 
teak steps.
Looks like they are available in Europe, but here all I can find are 
teak _deck_ steps, not ladder rung steps. Anyone know of a source, or 
failing that, a good design I can make myself, attaching by ss hose 
clamps?


Nate

1980 C&C 30-1
St, Croix River Hudson WI

1994 Tartan 31
Cornucopia, WI


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Stus-List Re: Deck hold -down?

[David Risch via CnC-List]

In lieu of “gluing” the decks to the bulkheads (Rob Ball can better explain, 
but apparently boats were “breaking” when run aground…they thought this method 
would provide a bit of give).

Your problem of a proud horizontal deck piece?   Never encountered that.  But 
they are a constant target of leak management (re-bedding ).

From: Rod Fisk via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 7:25 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rod Fisk 
Subject: Stus-List Deck hold -down?

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I have a C&C 36-1. There are stainless strap assemblies bolted through the main 
bulkhead  port and starboard. These are welded to stainless pads bolted through 
the deck. I have removed the mounting bolts and the holes in the bulkhead are 
not elongated yet there is a gap of about 5/16" under the plate on the deck 
above. What is this for? I am guessing a deck hold--down, yet the deck appears 
to be firmly in contact with the bulkhead below. Has anyone else seen this? 
What have you done about it?

Thanks

Rod Fisk
C&C 36 Corsair
Oshkosh, WI

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Stus-List Deck hold -down?

[Rod Fisk via CnC-List]

I have a C&C 36-1. There are stainless strap assemblies bolted through the
main bulkhead  port and starboard. These are welded to stainless pads
bolted through the deck. I have removed the mounting bolts and the holes in
the bulkhead are not elongated yet there is a gap of about 5/16" under the
plate on the deck above. What is this for? I am guessing a deck hold--down,
yet the deck appears to be firmly in contact with the bulkhead below. Has
anyone else seen this? What have you done about it?

Thanks

Rod Fisk
C&C 36 Corsair
Oshkosh, WI
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