Stus-List Re: Wheel Drive Autopilot

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

You get access to the belt by separating the two halves of the assembly
that is attached to the wheel.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 6:08 PM Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Thanks so much Joe.  Didn't know there was a belt on the 4000.  Does it go
> around the whole wheel assembly?  It's hidden nicely.
>
> I will probably do as you say and buy a new drive unit and see if that
> works.
>
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:58 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
>  wrote:
>
> I have an old AH-4000. If it starts doing what you describe the belt may
> be slipping or the pin that holds the drive gear is going. I have rebuilt
> my drive many times and my current unit is a combination of 3 or 4 old ones
> I have scavenged over the years.
>
> You can try and fix it or get a new drive for around $600 or so. It will
> work fine with the AH-4000 computer. The CPT is a much stronger unit, but
> keep in mind in both cases the weight of the boat is being used as a proxy
> for how hard the boat is to steer. These things are really only loosely
> related at best. An AH-4000 has plenty more power than needed to steer a
> freighter, it isn’t physically hard to steer a big ship. The issue would be
> the steering algorithms would be way off.
>
> If your boat is hard for YOU to steer, Otto will have a hard time too.
> After fixing or replacing your drive I would look to getting the boat to
> balance.
>
> All that said, the AH-4000 is hopeless in a big following sea.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
> C 35 MK I
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 24, 2021 2:18 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Peter Cowenhoven 
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Wheel Drive Autopilot
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any experience with the CPT belt driven vs the old
> Autohelm 4000?  Does the CPT have more turning force?
>
>
>
> I've got the old 4000 and many times it doesn't turn the wheel and just
> clicks.  Certainly when there's a lot weather helm there's no chance.
>
>
>
> I'm also wondering if a new 4000 drive unit would be able to hold the
> force of the wheel better.
>
>
>
> I see the 4000 or the new EV 1000 is rated st 16,500 and I'm at about
> 13,500 while the CPT is rated to 40,000.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any intel or thoughts on this.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> 84 Landfall 35
>
> Westbrook, CT
>
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
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Stus-List Re: Wheel Drive Autopilot

[ssjohnson via CnC-List]

Another alternative is to send the drive unit to Raymarine.  $250 to fix any 
problem.  I've done it a few timespretty much need to doit every other 
year my LF38 is at/over the wheel pilot maximum displacement of 16,500 
lbsSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List 
 Date: 6/25/21  8:07 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Stus-List 
 Cc: Peter Cowenhoven  Subject: 
Stus-List Re: Wheel Drive Autopilot Thanks so much Joe.  Didn't know there was 
a belt on the 4000.  Does it go around the whole wheel assembly?  It's hidden 
nicely.I will probably do as you say and buy a new drive unit and see if that 
works.Sent from Yahoo Mail on AndroidOn Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:58 PM, Della 
Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:   

 
 




I have an old AH-4000. If it starts doing what you describe the belt may be 
slipping or the pin that holds the drive gear is going. I have rebuilt my drive 
many times and my current unit is a combination of 3 or 4 old ones I have 
scavenged
 over the years. 
You can try and fix it or get a new drive for around $600 or so. It will work 
fine with the AH-4000 computer. The CPT is a much stronger unit, but keep in 
mind in both cases the weight of the boat is being used as a proxy for how hard 
the
 boat is to steer. These things are really only loosely related at best. An 
AH-4000 has plenty more power than needed to steer a freighter, it isn’t 
physically hard to steer a big ship. The issue would be the steering algorithms 
would be way off.
 
If your boat is hard for YOU to steer, Otto will have a hard time too. After 
fixing or replacing your drive I would look to getting the boat to balance. 
All that said, the AH-4000 is hopeless in a big following sea. 
   
Joe 
Coquina 
C 35 MK I 
   
   

From: Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List 

Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 2:18 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Peter Cowenhoven 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Wheel Drive Autopilot 

   
Does anyone have any experience with the CPT belt driven vs the old Autohelm 
4000?  Does the CPT have more turning force? 

   


I've got the old 4000 and many times it doesn't turn the wheel and just clicks. 
 Certainly when there's a lot weather helm there's no chance. 


   


I'm also wondering if a new 4000 drive unit would be able to hold the force of 
the wheel better. 


   


I see the 4000 or the new EV 1000 is rated st 16,500 and I'm at about 13,500 
while the CPT is rated to 40,000. 


   


Thanks in advance for any intel or thoughts on this. 

   


Best, 


   


Peter 


   


84 Landfall 35 


Westbrook, CT 


   

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Stus-List Re: Wheel Drive Autopilot

[Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List]

Thanks so much Joe.  Didn't know there was a belt on the 4000.  Does it go 
around the whole wheel assembly?  It's hidden nicely.
I will probably do as you say and buy a new drive unit and see if that works.


Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:58 PM, Della Barba, Joe via 
CnC-List wrote:
I have an old AH-4000. If it starts doing what you describe the belt may be 
slipping or the pin that holds the drive gear is going. I have rebuilt my drive 
many times and my current unit is a combination of 3 or 4 old ones I have 
scavenged over the years.
 
You can try and fix it or get a new drive for around $600 or so. It will work 
fine with the AH-4000 computer. The CPT is a much stronger unit, but keep in 
mind in both cases the weight of the boat is being used as a proxy for how hard 
the boat is to steer. These things are really only loosely related at best. An 
AH-4000 has plenty more power than needed to steer a freighter, it isn’t 
physically hard to steer a big ship. The issue would be the steering algorithms 
would be way off.
 
If your boat is hard for YOU to steer, Otto will have a hard time too. After 
fixing or replacing your drive I would look to getting the boat to balance.
 
All that said, the AH-4000 is hopeless in a big following sea.
 
  
 
Joe
 
Coquina
 
C 35 MK I
 
  
 
  
 
From: Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 2:18 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Peter Cowenhoven 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Wheel Drive Autopilot
 
  
 
Does anyone have any experience with the CPT belt driven vs the old Autohelm 
4000?  Does the CPT have more turning force?
 
  
 
I've got the old 4000 and many times it doesn't turn the wheel and just clicks. 
 Certainly when there's a lot weather helm there's no chance.
 
  
 
I'm also wondering if a new 4000 drive unit would be able to hold the force of 
the wheel better.
 
  
 
I see the 4000 or the new EV 1000 is rated st 16,500 and I'm at about 13,500 
while the CPT is rated to 40,000.
 
  
 
Thanks in advance for any intel or thoughts on this.
 
  
 
Best,
 
  
 
Peter
 
  
 
84 Landfall 35
 
Westbrook, CT
 
  
 
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Stus-List Re: Seawater pump

[Rob Hamlin via CnC-List]

Thanks +1 on the deck wash down 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 11:45 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a deck wash pump to spray mud off my anchor.
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 11:31, Rob Hamlin via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Why would one want to have sea water come into the boat besides a head flush?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jun 25, 2021, at 11:24 AM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> I have a foot pump for sea water and a foot pump for fresh water. I can 
>>> also switch between fresh and sea water for my pressure water.
>>> 
>>> Alan Bergen
>>> 35 Mk III Thirsty
>>> Rose City YC
>>> Portland, OR
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 8:08 AM Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 My foot pump is fresh water. 
 
 Get Outlook for Android
 
 From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
 Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 6:11:22 AM
 To: CnC CnC discussion list 
 Cc: David Knecht 
 Subject: Stus-List Re: Seawater pump
  
 Thanks for the quick answer.  It makes some sense, but I am pretty sure 
 the foot pump in the galley is sea water so this seems redundant, but I 
 guess sometimes you want more water than the foot pump would easily 
 deliver.  Dave 
 PS- Our foot pump has a piece of rubber pipe insulation over it after 
 numerous scraped ankles.  I am guessing others have done the same.
 
 S/V Aries
 1990 C 34+
 New London, CT
 
 
 
> On Jun 25, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> We wash dishes with sea water and rinse with fresh water
> 
> Joel
> 
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:31 AM David Knecht via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> My boat came with a pump with coiled hose and spray nozzle in the area 
> near the sink through-hull that is plumbed to a through-hull to seawater. 
>  I have never used it and am not sure what one would do with sea water 
> pumped into the cabin in this location.  Any hints?  Thanks- Dave
> 
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
> 
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Stus-List Re: Seawater pump

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I have a deck wash pump to spray mud off my anchor.

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 11:31, Rob Hamlin via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Why would one want to have sea water come into the boat besides a head flush?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 11:24 AM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I have a foot pump for sea water and a foot pump for fresh water. I can also 
>> switch between fresh and sea water for my pressure water.
>> 
>> Alan Bergen
>> 35 Mk III Thirsty
>> Rose City YC
>> Portland, OR
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 8:08 AM Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> My foot pump is fresh water. 
>>> 
>>> Get Outlook for Android
>>> 
>>> From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
>>> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 6:11:22 AM
>>> To: CnC CnC discussion list 
>>> Cc: David Knecht 
>>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Seawater pump
>>>  
>>> Thanks for the quick answer.  It makes some sense, but I am pretty sure the 
>>> foot pump in the galley is sea water so this seems redundant, but I guess 
>>> sometimes you want more water than the foot pump would easily deliver.  
>>> Dave 
>>> PS- Our foot pump has a piece of rubber pipe insulation over it after 
>>> numerous scraped ankles.  I am guessing others have done the same.
>>> 
>>> S/V Aries
>>> 1990 C 34+
>>> New London, CT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 25, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 
 We wash dishes with sea water and rinse with fresh water
 
 Joel
 
 On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:31 AM David Knecht via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 My boat came with a pump with coiled hose and spray nozzle in the area 
 near the sink through-hull that is plumbed to a through-hull to seawater.  
 I have never used it and am not sure what one would do with sea water 
 pumped into the cabin in this location.  Any hints?  Thanks- Dave
 
 S/V Aries
 1990 C 34+
 New London, CT
 
 
 
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 -- 
 Joel 
 
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>>>Thanks - Stu
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Stus-List Re: Seawater pump

[Rob Hamlin via CnC-List]

Why would one want to have sea water come into the boat besides a head flush?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 11:24 AM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have a foot pump for sea water and a foot pump for fresh water. I can also 
> switch between fresh and sea water for my pressure water.
> 
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 8:08 AM Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> My foot pump is fresh water. 
>> 
>> Get Outlook for Android
>> 
>> From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
>> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 6:11:22 AM
>> To: CnC CnC discussion list 
>> Cc: David Knecht 
>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Seawater pump
>>  
>> Thanks for the quick answer.  It makes some sense, but I am pretty sure the 
>> foot pump in the galley is sea water so this seems redundant, but I guess 
>> sometimes you want more water than the foot pump would easily deliver.  Dave 
>> PS- Our foot pump has a piece of rubber pipe insulation over it after 
>> numerous scraped ankles.  I am guessing others have done the same.
>> 
>> S/V Aries
>> 1990 C 34+
>> New London, CT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We wash dishes with sea water and rinse with fresh water
>>> 
>>> Joel
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:31 AM David Knecht via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> My boat came with a pump with coiled hose and spray nozzle in the area near 
>>> the sink through-hull that is plumbed to a through-hull to seawater.  I 
>>> have never used it and am not sure what one would do with sea water pumped 
>>> into the cabin in this location.  Any hints?  Thanks- Dave
>>> 
>>> S/V Aries
>>> 1990 C 34+
>>> New London, CT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
>>> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
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>>> Stu
>>> -- 
>>> Joel 
>>> 
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>>> Stu
>> 
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Stus-List Re: Seawater pump

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

I have a foot pump for sea water and a foot pump for fresh water. I can
also switch between fresh and sea water for my pressure water.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 8:08 AM Korbey Hunt via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My foot pump is fresh water.
>
> Get Outlook for Android
> 
>
> --
> *From:* David Knecht via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Friday, June 25, 2021 6:11:22 AM
> *To:* CnC CnC discussion list 
> *Cc:* David Knecht 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Seawater pump
>
> Thanks for the quick answer.  It makes some sense, but I am pretty sure
> the foot pump in the galley is sea water so this seems redundant, but I
> guess sometimes you want more water than the foot pump would easily
> deliver.  Dave
> PS- Our foot pump has a piece of rubber pipe insulation over it after
> numerous scraped ankles.  I am guessing others have done the same.
>
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> We wash dishes with sea water and rinse with fresh water
>
> Joel
>
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:31 AM David Knecht via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> My boat came with a pump with coiled hose and spray nozzle in the area
> near the sink through-hull that is plumbed to a through-hull to seawater.
> I have never used it and am not sure what one would do with sea water
> pumped into the cabin in this location.  Any hints?  Thanks- Dave
>
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
>
> 
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
> 
> Thanks - Stu
>
> --
> Joel
>
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>
>
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>  Thanks - Stu
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Stus-List Re: Seawater pump

[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

My foot pump is fresh water.

Get Outlook for Android


From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 6:11:22 AM
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
Cc: David Knecht 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Seawater pump

Thanks for the quick answer.  It makes some sense, but I am pretty sure the 
foot pump in the galley is sea water so this seems redundant, but I guess 
sometimes you want more water than the foot pump would easily deliver.  Dave
PS- Our foot pump has a piece of rubber pipe insulation over it after numerous 
scraped ankles.  I am guessing others have done the same.

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT

[cid:4073BE72-4704-4EA7-8EBA-B73B833F502B]

On Jun 25, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

We wash dishes with sea water and rinse with fresh water

Joel

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:31 AM David Knecht via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
My boat came with a pump with coiled hose and spray nozzle in the area near the 
sink through-hull that is plumbed to a through-hull to seawater.  I have never 
used it and am not sure what one would do with sea water pumped into the cabin 
in this location.  Any hints?  Thanks- Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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--
Joel

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Stus-List Re: Seawater pump

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

Thanks for the quick answer.  It makes some sense, but I am pretty sure the 
foot pump in the galley is sea water so this seems redundant, but I guess 
sometimes you want more water than the foot pump would easily deliver.  Dave 
PS- Our foot pump has a piece of rubber pipe insulation over it after numerous 
scraped ankles.  I am guessing others have done the same.

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



> On Jun 25, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> We wash dishes with sea water and rinse with fresh water
> 
> Joel
> 
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:31 AM David Knecht via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> My boat came with a pump with coiled hose and spray nozzle in the area near 
> the sink through-hull that is plumbed to a through-hull to seawater.  I have 
> never used it and am not sure what one would do with sea water pumped into 
> the cabin in this location.  Any hints?  Thanks- Dave
> 
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
> 
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> Joel 
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Stus-List was seawater, now towing pot

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

ROFLMAO
The CG must have been surprised!

Joe
Coquina

From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 9:46 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Andrew Burton 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Seawater pump

A mate of mine was delivering a raceboat into St Pete, Fla for SORC one night. 
He was dragging the dinner saucepan behind the boat when the coast guard hailed 
him to tell him they were doing one of their armed midnight "safety checks."
He replied "OK, but watch out for the pot behind the boat."
Oops.

Andy
Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA02840

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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Seawater pump

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

A mate of mine was delivering a raceboat into St Pete, Fla for SORC one night. 
He was dragging the dinner saucepan behind the boat when the coast guard hailed 
him to tell him they were doing one of their armed midnight "safety checks." 
He replied "OK, but watch out for the pot behind the boat." 
Oops.

Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

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> On Jun 25, 2021, at 09:39, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Offshore you many want saltwater for dishwashing except the final rinse. We 
> generally don’t carry enough fresh water for long passages as it is without 
> doing the dishes in all fresh water. I had a big net bag I used to through 
> all the dishes in and just drag them for a bit. That worked great until I was 
> washing a pot that had beef stew in it and if I hadn’t been quick a shark 
> would have made off with the pot and maybe my hand too!
> Joe
> Coquina
>  
> From: David Knecht via CnC-List  
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 9:31 AM
> To: CnC CnC discussion list 
> Cc: David Knecht 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Seawater pump
>  
> My boat came with a pump with coiled hose and spray nozzle in the area near 
> the sink through-hull that is plumbed to a through-hull to seawater.  I have 
> never used it and am not sure what one would do with sea water pumped into 
> the cabin in this location.  Any hints?  Thanks- Dave
>  
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
>  
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
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Stus-List Re: Seawater pump

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

We wash dishes with sea water and rinse with fresh water

Joel

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:31 AM David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My boat came with a pump with coiled hose and spray nozzle in the area
> near the sink through-hull that is plumbed to a through-hull to seawater.
> I have never used it and am not sure what one would do with sea water
> pumped into the cabin in this location.  Any hints?  Thanks- Dave
>
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
>
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
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> - Stu

-- 
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Seawater pump

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Offshore you many want saltwater for dishwashing except the final rinse. We 
generally don't carry enough fresh water for long passages as it is without 
doing the dishes in all fresh water. I had a big net bag I used to through all 
the dishes in and just drag them for a bit. That worked great until I was 
washing a pot that had beef stew in it and if I hadn't been quick a shark would 
have made off with the pot and maybe my hand too!
Joe
Coquina

From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 9:31 AM
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
Cc: David Knecht 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Seawater pump

My boat came with a pump with coiled hose and spray nozzle in the area near the 
sink through-hull that is plumbed to a through-hull to seawater.  I have never 
used it and am not sure what one would do with sea water pumped into the cabin 
in this location.  Any hints?  Thanks- Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT

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Stus-List Seawater pump

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

My boat came with a pump with coiled hose and spray nozzle in the area near the 
sink through-hull that is plumbed to a through-hull to seawater.  I have never 
used it and am not sure what one would do with sea water pumped into the cabin 
in this location.  Any hints?  Thanks- Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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