Stus-List Re: Bomar hatch refurb update
Thanks (again) for the kind words Chuck. I had contemplated buying new, but the originals were so well made I couldn’t imagine throwing them away! (Plus I do enjoy the challenge). The cost was probably in the range of $C500-600 to rebuild them and replace the companionway hatch. So, a substantial saving. I had 6mm plastic on hand for the smaller hatches and only had to buy the 9mm. both thicknesses were identical to the originals. The project did take longer than it should have due to a couple of clever decisions and learning moments. (Lol)It really isn’t a daunting project provided you have a well equipped shop, experience working with acrylic and access to a reasonable powder coating shop. Otherwise it probably makes sense to buy new, as you suggest. Strangely, the acrylic’s thickness is specified in mm while the sheet size is specified in inches. This may be why it can be difficult to find specific fractional imperial thicknesses. This should be easy material to source in any well populated area. Dave S - 33-2 Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 26, 2023, at 2:51 PM, David Swensen via CnC-List > wrote: > > > Dave and Chuck, > Thank you for your replies. I will give Annapolis and hatchmasters a call. I > finally found 3/8 cast in 2074 in Californis. I wanted the 3/8 for the same > reason - people stepping on it. The shipping is half the price of the sheet, > so hopefully I can find it on the east coast. > > Thanks again. > > David > >> On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 2:30 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER >> wrote: >> Hey David, >> I used a company called Annapolis Maritime Plastics to make new cast acrylic >> panels for my windows several years ago. They are a little pricey but do >> quality work and do what the say. Cost me $1000 to make all my side >> windows to template in 1/4" thick 2074. Limosene dark. I more recently had >> the cabintop slider and window pane made and that cost me $500 for 3/8" >> thick 2074. Thicker because people stand on it. The company used to have a >> large storefront for years but lost people during COVID and was taken over >> by a guy who works out of his home workshop. >> >> I would highly recommend them for their work, but you might find a better >> bargain, elsewhere. >> >> https://maritimefabrication.com/ >> 410-263-4424 >> >> Dave S does some beautiful work, but considering all the time and money, I'd >> buy new hatches and upgrade to one of the newer style, lower profile, >> venting models. New frame, new hardware, new hinges, new lever locks, etc. >> But that's just my two cents. >> >> Chuck S >> >> >> >>> On 03/26/2023 6:29 AM David Swensen via CnC-List >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Dave, Where did you source your 3/8 acrylic? Is it cast and is it 2074? >>> Thanks, >>> David Swensen >>> Freya 35MK3 >>> Beverly, MA >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Mar 25, 2023, at 9:11 PM, Dave S via CnC-List wrote: https://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2022/10/hatch-refurbishment.html?m=1 Dave - 33-2 Sent from my iPhone Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu >>> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and >>> help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: >>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> Thanks for your help. >>> Stu > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help > me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Bomar hatch refurb update
McMastercarr also sells smaller pieces of acrylic sheet with gray tint. This is what I used for my Bomar hatch on the bow of my C&C 34: https://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/129/4052/8505K731 I matched the original thickness. Rough cut with table saw and then shape to match with a router and a flush trim profile bit against the original once it is removed. Nathan On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 2:51 PM David Swensen via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Dave and Chuck, > Thank you for your replies. I will give Annapolis and hatchmasters a call. > I finally found 3/8 cast in 2074 in Californis. I wanted the 3/8 for the > same reason - people stepping on it. The shipping is half the price of the > sheet, so hopefully I can find it on the east coast. > > Thanks again. > > David > > On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 2:30 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER > wrote: > >> Hey David, >> I used a company called Annapolis Maritime Plastics to make new cast >> acrylic panels for my windows several years ago. They are a little pricey >> but do quality work and do what the say. Cost me $1000 to make all my >> side windows to template in 1/4" thick 2074. Limosene dark. I more >> recently had the cabintop slider and window pane made and that cost me $500 >> for 3/8" thick 2074. Thicker because people stand on it. The company used >> to have a large storefront for years but lost people during COVID and was >> taken over by a guy who works out of his home workshop. >> >> I would highly recommend them for their work, but you might find a better >> bargain, elsewhere. >> >> https://maritimefabrication.com/ >> 410-263-4424 >> >> Dave S does some beautiful work, but considering all the time and money, >> I'd buy new hatches and upgrade to one of the newer style, lower profile, >> venting models. New frame, new hardware, new hinges, new lever locks, >> etc. But that's just my two cents. >> >> Chuck S >> >> >> >> On 03/26/2023 6:29 AM David Swensen via CnC-List >> wrote: >> >> >> Dave, Where did you source your 3/8 acrylic? Is it cast and is it 2074? >> Thanks, >> David Swensen >> Freya 35MK3 >> Beverly, MA >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 25, 2023, at 9:11 PM, Dave S via CnC-List >> wrote: >> >> https://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2022/10/hatch-refurbishment.html?m=1 >> >> Dave - 33-2 >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and >> help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> Thanks for your help. >> Stu >> >> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and >> help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> Thanks for your help. >> Stu >> >> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Bomar hatch refurb update
Dave and Chuck, Thank you for your replies. I will give Annapolis and hatchmasters a call. I finally found 3/8 cast in 2074 in Californis. I wanted the 3/8 for the same reason - people stepping on it. The shipping is half the price of the sheet, so hopefully I can find it on the east coast. Thanks again. David On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 2:30 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER wrote: > Hey David, > I used a company called Annapolis Maritime Plastics to make new cast > acrylic panels for my windows several years ago. They are a little pricey > but do quality work and do what the say. Cost me $1000 to make all my > side windows to template in 1/4" thick 2074. Limosene dark. I more > recently had the cabintop slider and window pane made and that cost me $500 > for 3/8" thick 2074. Thicker because people stand on it. The company used > to have a large storefront for years but lost people during COVID and was > taken over by a guy who works out of his home workshop. > > I would highly recommend them for their work, but you might find a better > bargain, elsewhere. > > https://maritimefabrication.com/ > 410-263-4424 > > Dave S does some beautiful work, but considering all the time and money, > I'd buy new hatches and upgrade to one of the newer style, lower profile, > venting models. New frame, new hardware, new hinges, new lever locks, > etc. But that's just my two cents. > > Chuck S > > > > On 03/26/2023 6:29 AM David Swensen via CnC-List > wrote: > > > Dave, Where did you source your 3/8 acrylic? Is it cast and is it 2074? > Thanks, > David Swensen > Freya 35MK3 > Beverly, MA > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 25, 2023, at 9:11 PM, Dave S via CnC-List > wrote: > > https://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2022/10/hatch-refurbishment.html?m=1 > > Dave - 33-2 > > Sent from my iPhone > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Bomar hatch refurb update
Hey David, I used a company called Annapolis Maritime Plastics to make new cast acrylic panels for my windows several years ago. They are a little pricey but do quality work and do what the say. Cost me $1000 to make all my side windows to template in 1/4" thick 2074. Limosene dark. I more recently had the cabintop slider and window pane made and that cost me $500 for 3/8" thick 2074. Thicker because people stand on it. The company used to have a large storefront for years but lost people during COVID and was taken over by a guy who works out of his home workshop. I would highly recommend them for their work, but you might find a better bargain, elsewhere. https://maritimefabrication.com/ 410-263-4424 Dave S does some beautiful work, but considering all the time and money, I'd buy new hatches and upgrade to one of the newer style, lower profile, venting models. New frame, new hardware, new hinges, new lever locks, etc. But that's just my two cents. Chuck S > On 03/26/2023 6:29 AM David Swensen via CnC-List > wrote: > > > Dave, Where did you source your 3/8 acrylic? Is it cast and is it 2074? > Thanks, > David Swensen > Freya 35MK3 > Beverly, MA > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Mar 25, 2023, at 9:11 PM, Dave S via CnC-List > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > https://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2022/10/hatch-refurbishment.html?m=1 > > > > Dave - 33-2 > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album > > site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > Thanks for your help. > > Stu > > > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album > > site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Bomar hatch refurb update
David - the colour is 2074,Cast acrylic Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 26, 2023, at 7:25 AM, Dave S wrote: > > > Hi David, > There are numerous sources in the Toronto area, and for this project I used a > place called plasticworld. > https://plasticworld.ca/ > > I can't recall the colour, but it is the darkest bronze tint regularly > stocked locally, and it matches the windows and the companionway slider, and > the hatches all now match each other as well. (I hadn't realized they were > different or had faded differently) I believe it is cast acrylic. It's easy > to purchase in this from industrial suppliers around here, I would expect the > same is true in Massachusetts, > > The gaskets came from hatchmasters, in Norwalk CT as recommended by folks on > this list.Great service and the product is the right stuff for the > application. Unfortunately they are in the USA ;-) so shipping and > importing to Canada was costly. > https://hatchmasters.com/ > > They are a subsidiary of a company called select plastics and I expect would > also sell you acrylic. > > Dave > 33-2 > >> On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 at 06:29, David Swensen via CnC-List >> wrote: >> Dave, Where did you source your 3/8 acrylic? Is it cast and is it 2074? >> Thanks, >> David Swensen >> Freya 35MK3 >> Beverly, MA >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Mar 25, 2023, at 9:11 PM, Dave S via CnC-List wrote: >>> https://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2022/10/hatch-refurbishment.html?m=1 >>> >>> Dave - 33-2 >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and >>> help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: >>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> Thanks for your help. >>> Stu >> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and >> help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> Thanks for your help. >> Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Cored hulls and repairs
Interesting read, but definitely more applicable to deck coring rather than hull. My understanding is that hull coring failures usually result in much larger areas and require a full peel as a result. Callisto's deck was extensively repaired with epoxy during a year-long refit by a previous owner in the early 90s and is still doing very well. The area around the mast collar is rock solid with many epoxy holes drilled approx every 1-2". Having the boat in a dry shop for a year was no doubt a big help in allowing the epoxy to work well. -- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 6:58 AM Dave S via CnC-List wrote: > Interesting article given recent discussions here. > > > https://www.practical-sailor.com/boat-maintenance/can-glue-injection-fix-rotten-core?MailingID=1184&sc=WIR20230326-PaintingYourBoatSeries&st=email&utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Can+Glue+Injection+Fix+Rotten+Core%3F&utm_campaign=WIR20230326-PaintingYourBoatSeries > > Dave 33-2 windstar > > Sent from my iPhone > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Cored hulls and repairs
Interesting article given recent discussions here. https://www.practical-sailor.com/boat-maintenance/can-glue-injection-fix-rotten-core?MailingID=1184&sc=WIR20230326-PaintingYourBoatSeries&st=email&utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Can+Glue+Injection+Fix+Rotten+Core%3F&utm_campaign=WIR20230326-PaintingYourBoatSeries Dave 33-2 windstar Sent from my iPhonePlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Bomar hatch refurb update
Hi David, There are numerous sources in the Toronto area, and for this project I used a place called plasticworld. https://plasticworld.ca/ I can't recall the colour, but it is the darkest bronze tint regularly stocked locally, and it matches the windows and the companionway slider, and the hatches all now match each other as well. (I hadn't realized they were different or had faded differently) I believe it is cast acrylic. It's easy to purchase in this from industrial suppliers around here, I would expect the same is true in Massachusetts, The gaskets came from hatchmasters, in Norwalk CT as recommended by folks on this list.Great service and the product is the right stuff for the application. Unfortunately they are in the USA ;-) so shipping and importing to Canada was costly. https://hatchmasters.com/ They are a subsidiary of a company called select plastics and I expect would also sell you acrylic. Dave 33-2 On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 at 06:29, David Swensen via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Dave, Where did you source your 3/8 acrylic? Is it cast and is it 2074? > Thanks, > David Swensen > Freya 35MK3 > Beverly, MA > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 25, 2023, at 9:11 PM, Dave S via CnC-List > wrote: > > https://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2022/10/hatch-refurbishment.html?m=1 > > Dave - 33-2 > > Sent from my iPhone > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: Bomar hatch refurb update
Dave, Where did you source your 3/8 acrylic? Is it cast and is it 2074? Thanks, David Swensen Freya 35MK3 Beverly, MA Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 25, 2023, at 9:11 PM, Dave S via CnC-List > wrote: > > https://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2022/10/hatch-refurbishment.html?m=1 > > Dave - 33-2 > > Sent from my iPhone > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help > me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
