Stus-List Re: Any thoughts (experience) on trailering?

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

I used to own a 29 mk1 with the shallow draft keel sailed out of Oakville. When 
I retired I moved my sailing to the North Channel a used Cradle Shop trailer 
was purchased. The professional modifications did not match the hull as they 
“forgot” that it was not the regular racing keel, sigh. All was resolved. 
I trailered the 9 hour drive with a 3500 rated for 10,000 lb. 
The significant argh was making the application for the Ministry of Transport 
Wide Load Permit. Our regular legal width limit is just over 8’. The CC29 mk1 
is around 10’. Wide load banners and flags were mounted. The tail lights were 
changed. An rear end extendable and removable light cross bar was built. The 
corners of the bar had the lights and flags providing clarity about the boat 
width and length. The widest beam and long points are high up and easy to miss. 
I pondered the mast carry; low on the trailer or high on the boat. I went with 
on the boat so that I could have some significant overhang forward and less 
overhang aft.  A key measurement mount was the height above ground. The MOT 
ensured that the bridges on my route would clear the bridges.  A six inch 
lowering of the mast mount was required, just clearing the coach roof. I almost 
forgot when fuelling the truck. Some gas stations have low shelter roofs LOL. 
DonMy  C&C exCC24 JoyCC29 mk1 LifeViking 34 Fidusen


Don

On Wednesday, September 13, 2023, 10:17 AM, Karl Kuzis via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Looking at Richard's photos from moving his 34cb to the shop got me 
thinking.
Firefly is a C&C 29 Mk1 with extended keel which is lake locked 3 hrs away. We 
have been considering moving her closer to home, back to the Columbia River. As 
previously mentioned she is due for hull paint (or wrap) as well as bottom 
inspection,  paint etc.
So the choices become hire a boat mover, or obtain a suitable trailer (rental 
or buy). I have plenty of trailer-tow experience just not with a 29ft fixed 
keel sailboat. 
The question to the group is: Any insights, experience or thoughts on 29 
trailering? 

All comments, stories and discussion welcome! 

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Stus-List Re: Hydraulic backstay adjuster pressure?

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

Smile. 
When the cabin or head doors do not work, you are bending the boat. 

Some of the C&C  boat manuals provided big cautions about gauge readings 
redline!

Don



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Stus-List River board reduces outflows on Lake Ontario | Belleville Intelligencer

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https://www.intelligencer.ca/news/local-news/river-board-reduces-outflows-on-lake-ontario

River board reduces outflows on Lake Ontario
Derek Baldwin 
More from Derek Baldwin

Effective midnight Saturday, operators of the Moses-Saunders Dam in Cornwall 
will reduce Lake Ontario outflows by 20 cubic metres per second contrary to 
Quinte region lakefront owners’ demand to open floodgates to prevent further 
shoreline damage.

The International Lake Ontario-St. Lawrence River Board will tighten sluices 
ever so slightly to stem outflow from 8,870 cubic metres per second to 8,850 
cm/3, confirmed Rob Caldwell, secretary of the river board, Friday in a 
telephone interview.

Caldwell said the “stepdown is in march step with the decline of Lake Ontario 
levels.”

He cited daily statistics made available on the river board’s website showing 
the Lake Ontario water level has dropped to 75.0 metres above sea level (246.06 
ft.) a month after a major Halloween storm dumped massive rainfall over several 
days that lead to higher water levels on the lake and corresponding higher 
outflows at the dam.

With lowered water levels on the lake in play now, capping outflows are 
necessary this weekend to slow down fast currents to encourage safer shipping 
conditions for Great Lakes vessels plying the lake and the river downstream, he 
said.

The new outflows reduction of 20 cm/s is the equivalent of holding back 20,000 
one litre bottles of water every single second or 1.72 billion litres in 24 
hours.

The decision to retain more lake water behind the dam is the second such 
reduction since a Nov. 20 rally in Quinte West drew hundreds calling for the 
repeal of Plan 2014 which governs high water marks triggers to release water 
from the dam downstream.

Caldwell said he understands emotions are high but said regulators and 
operators of the dam are doing their best to balance the safety of citizens who 
live above and below the dam as well as shipping companies who operate vessels 
in the St. Lawrence Seaway.

Despite the reduction, Caldwell told The Intelligencer water outflows will 
still remain at 200 cm/s higher than prescribed under Plan 2014 with even more 
flexibility in months ahead given the IJC’s instruction to deviate from Plan 
2014 on Nov. 22.

“We’re providing all possible relief to riparians upstream but we have to 
consider all stakeholders,” Caldwell said.

Not only lakefront homeowners on Lake Ontario are suffering from high water 
levels, he said.

Seaway companies, as well as hydro companies, are being effected as it takes 
ships five extra hours to traverse the St. Lawrence Seaway canal systems and 
hydro firms are losing hydroelectric generation money from opened spillways.

“Nobody wants this high water – it’s not beneficial to anyone,” Caldwell said, 
adding “we’re riding the limits within the system.”

Brighton resident John Martinello was not impressed with word the river board 
was about to hold back more water when lake levels are so high above seasonal 
norms.

“Despite the facts that Lake Ontario is 1.51 ft (approx 1 ft, 6 inches) above 
its long-term average level and that Lake Erie (the source of 80 per cent of 
all water that enters Lake Ontario) is 1.90 ft (approx 1 ft, 11 inches)  above 
its long-term average level, the International Lake Ontario-St Lawrence River 
Board (ILOSLRB) will — once again — reduce Lake Ontario outflows,” he wrote in 
an email to media and local politicians Friday.

“It seems clear to me that the current Canadian federal government is, at best, 
[un]interested in the issue of Lake Ontario flooding,” he said.

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Don

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Re: Stus-List Gps mount swing arm

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Don

Don Harben

> On Nov 1, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Len Mitchell via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Chris, I have a swing arm in my box of boat hardware. I will pm a pic and if 
> you want to pay the shipping cost, it is yours! My plotter is permanently 
> mounted and I will never use it. 
> Len Mitchell 
> Crazy Legs
> Midland On
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Re: Stus-List Looking for parts for 1980 C&C 30 MKI

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/city-of-toronto/c-c-27-sailboat-maltese-falcon/1357986957
 

DonV34CC 29 1CC 24


On Sunday, October 7, 2018, 6:36 PM, Dennis Peters via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hi,

We suffered quite a bit of damage due to a hard collision this season, so I’m 
trying to source parts to repair. One that I haven’t been able to source is the 
cast aluminum fairlead for the starboard quarter. 

Here’s a few pics, including a couple of the port version, which isn’t broken. 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qZ8J6Mg6LC9h6kqG6 

I’ve tried South Shore Yachts and Holland marine (HMP) and they don’t have it. 
Any leads on a possible source would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Dennis

Dennis Peters
Sea Plus Plus
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Stus-List Survey Participation: Weather Radio Canada is under review by Environment Canada.

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Weather Radio Canada is under review by Environment Canada.
 Please take a moment to go online and complete this survey.  

From: "Radio (EC)" 
Date: August 20, 2018 at 15:23:17 EDT
Subject: RE: Survey




Thank you for your interest in providing feedback to Weatheradio Canada. 

If you have not already completed a survey by phone with a Service Canada 
agent, clicking the link below will take you to our secure, anonymous survey 
where we would greatly appreciate you taking a few minutes to let us know how, 
why and where you use the Weatheradio service. 




https://eccc.sondage-survey.ca/f/l/WxRMay2018?ds=Aug18Radio   

 

Nous vous remercions de votre intérêt à transmettre votre rétroaction à 
Radiométéo Canada.

 

Si vous n’avez pas déjà completé un sondage par téléphone avec un(e) agent(e) 
de Service Canada,

en cliquant sur le lien ci-dessous, vous serez redirigé vers notre sondage 
anonyme et sécurisé, où nous vous serions reconnaissants de prendre quelques 
minutes pour nous faire savoir comment, pourquoi et où vous utilisez le service 
Radiométéo.

 

https://eccc.sondage-survey.ca/f/l/WxRMay2018?ds=Aug18Radio  

 

For more information about Weatheradio:

https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/weatheradio.html

Pour plus d’information au sujet de Radiométéo :

https://www.canada.ca/fr/environnement-changement-climatique/services/radio-meteo.html

Thank you / Merci!

Lisa and/et Tom

Weatheradio Canada

 

Environment and Climate Change Canada

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Re: Stus-List mystery item

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

Old school dog collar 

Don



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Re: Stus-List AERIAL conflict?

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

Hi 
Thanks Josh.  Thank you for the AIS aerial tip.  Can aerials for Cell 
amplifiers be near VHF or WI-FI?


Don

On Monday, April 9, 2018, 12:20 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 wrote:

No concerns.  Different frequencies.  Separate AIS and VHF antennas are a 
different story.
Josh MuckleyS/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+Solomons, MD 


On Mon, Apr 9, 2018, 11:51 AM Don Harben via CnC-List  
wrote:

Hi,I am curious about how close the VHF and WI-FI aerials can be?


Don

On Monday, April 9, 2018, 10:53 AM, Paul E via CnC-List  
wrote:

You should have no issue with cutting the cord connecting to your 12V DC.   
This is how I run my LinkSys router in my long range wifi system.  Seedetail at 
: http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/WiFiWork


-
Paul E.1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL
http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

On Apr 8, 2018, at 9:52 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
From: Catherine & Michael Egberts via CnC-List 
Date: 2018-04-08 17:02 (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Catherine & Michael Egberts 
Subject: Stus-List Modify Router to DC Power Supply

Hi Everyone,
...

I am thinking I will cut the line from the block, apply new heat shrink rings 
at the cut side, and power by connecting to the 12V DC power system on the boat.

Has anyone done this? Does anyone have experience making these kinds of 
modifications, and are they safe?

Thank you for your consideration!

Cheers,

Michael Egberts

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Re: Stus-List AERIAL conflict?

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

Hi,I am curious about how close the VHF and WI-FI aerials can be?


Don

On Monday, April 9, 2018, 10:53 AM, Paul E via CnC-List  
wrote:

You should have no issue with cutting the cord connecting to your 12V DC.   
This is how I run my LinkSys router in my long range wifi system.  Seedetail at 
: http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/WiFiWork


-
Paul E.1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL
http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

On Apr 8, 2018, at 9:52 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
From: Catherine & Michael Egberts via CnC-List 
Date: 2018-04-08 17:02 (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Catherine & Michael Egberts 
Subject: Stus-List Modify Router to DC Power Supply

Hi Everyone,
...

I am thinking I will cut the line from the block, apply new heat shrink rings 
at the cut side, and power by connecting to the 12V DC power system on the boat.

Has anyone done this? Does anyone have experience making these kinds of 
modifications, and are they safe?

Thank you for your consideration!

Cheers,

Michael Egberts

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Re: Stus-List Mega Prototype?

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

Hi Rob,

Thank you. Your depth of knowledge is valued! 



Don

Don Harben

> On Dec 5, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Robert Mazza  wrote:
> 
> Harbour

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Stus-List Mega Prototype?

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Hi

I am curious about the story behind this C&C. Is this a prototype Mega?

Don

 Voilier de 30 pieds en aluminium avec remorque

Aluminum sailboat built by C & C in 1978, was in dry dock at C & C for 10 
years, launched in 1988. Retractable keel with chain block ratchet, simple and 
effective keel lock, Honda engine 4 stroke 20 HP long foot 2009, about 250 
hours, dinghy Silver marine 9 feet 2008,1 large battened sail in good 
condition, 2 genoa, 1 battened jib, 1 asymmetrical spinnaker new with 
outrigger. Profiled mast 40 feet on candlestick, boom 14 feet, tiller with 
saffron jack knife, 2 winch on cabin + 2 2-speed winch cockpit, frank paint 
made in 2016, Jabsco toilet and flexible Vetus tank, drain plug on deck , water 
intake, sink, cooler compartment, VHF radio, sound system + 2 speakers, depth 
gauge, lock for speed, to repair, wind vane and VHF antenna at the masthead. 
the floors are redone and I sell it with new floors not yet installed, can 
sleep 2 small people in the clamp + 2 front berths and 2 rear berths. rear 
navigation lights and starboard bow to the balcony. 2 Danforth anchors 25 lbs 
with 50 feet of chain each, one with 200 feet this cable, the other with 150 
feet of cable. electrical panel with circuit breakers, light in the passenger 
compartment and in the clamp. Cockpit cushions and cushions inside in good 
condition. 5 life jackets, 1 life saver and life line, 2 ABC fire 
extinguishers, manual bilge pump. Sailboat fully insulated with urethane. the 
ceiling finish remains to be done, several defenses. The sailboat is 30 feet 
over all and has a 7 foot 10 inch master beam, the draft is 6 feet 6 inches. 
Comes with a double axle trailer, I only use it for the launching and the exit 
of the water, the trailer has a retractable balm with pin, which facilitates 
the launching with a pick up 4 x 4 3/4 tons. Weight of the trailer and the 
sailboat, 5 tons. A survey for insurance is planned next spring, according to 
the latest survey, the boat is very solid and built with aviation grade high 
quality aluminum. There is still a bit of arm oil to do but at this price, for 
an aluminum sailboat is a bargain. We sell it for the purchase of an offshore 
sailboat in anticipation of trips. Negotiable price. Serious buyers please 
contact me by email

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Re: Stus-List New Owner of C&C 29 Mk I and Datamarine

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

Hi Jan,Welcome back to the water!I have two laundry baskets of Signet and Datamarine instrument bits and pieces that nurtured my C&C 24 and myC&C 29 mk1. I may have something that might be helpful here in Oakville. Contact me off list.DonViking 34www.ncyc.caOn Nov 9, 2017, at 3:13 PM, JAN MAGEE via CnC-List  wrote:On the Datamarine side, there is currently a Link 5000 system on the boat which I'd like to keep if possible as it suits the vintage.  However the 550 Remote unit is not working and the mast head unit is missing the entire wind speed unit (not just the cups).  The round-trip cost to send it to DMI for repair plus duty and exchange is ugly.  Have been scanning the online garage sales but no luck so far.  If anyone has any of this gear that they've replaced with something else but is still serviceable can you please let me know.  Else I'll be visiting the Toronto Boat Show in the new year to replace the entire rig. Glad to be a part of the C&C legacy and I like your style as a community.  The right mix of experience, sharing, humor and seriousness. Paul SaxtonBoomerang1979 C&C 29 Mk I #658Toronto, ON   ___Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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Stus-List C&C MK II 35' Renovated, $11, 000 CDN | City of HAMILTON, Ontario| Kijiji

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

Hi

No knowledge or affiliation but near enough to go look and take pictures

Don V34
Oakville

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/city-of-toronto/must-go-c-c-mk-ii-35-renovated-ready-to-be-put-in-water/1311842805


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Re: Stus-List AIS improvement + general rewiring

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

Hi

I run Navionics on three Idevices.  The software and the chart subscription 
share as one as long as they are all in the Apple Family Share. 

My Raymarine is a separate Navionics chart subscription. Tried directly with 
appeal to them... no

The Raymarine MFD wifi iPad app puts the iPad in as a dumb repeater from MFD.. 

THE Navionics app and the Raymarine app do not talk to each other... someday?

New is the opportunity to share tracks and waypoints somehow, email I think. 
Live mirroring is not enabled. 

QUESTION
Anyone have Navionics on more than one device? When I got the IPad on my 
account I have every single app ready to port over that I have on the phone 
including Navionics Hiking, but NOT the Navionics marine navigation app? Is 
this some Apple malfunction or is Navionics trying to get paid twice? If I have 
to buy it again, I can get INAV-X for about half the price.

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Re: Stus-List Re George Cuthbertson.

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Eight Bells: George Cuthbertson >> Scuttlebutt Sailing News 
  
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Don Harben


On Wednesday, October 4, 2017, 11:53 PM, Joseph Bognar via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I just found out that George Cuthbertson passed away today . My thoughts and 
prayers are with his family at this sad time . 
https://www.facebook.com/BayOfQuinteYachtClub/posts/745296169000804

Sent from Joe Bognar
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Google Maps 
  
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Re: Stus-List Whereabouts???

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maps.apple.com/?ll=46.134699,-82.624448&q=46.134699,-82.624448


Don
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On Sunday, September 3, 2017, 4:46 PM, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Doing an overnight at broad creek off the magothy tonight with the whole 
family. First time for us. Should be exciting!

KevinC&C 34Cornfield creek, Pasadena, MD
On Sun, Sep 3, 2017, 2:57 PM Eric Frank via CnC-List  
wrote:

David,  Planning to sail from Mattapoisett to Point Judith on Thursday, then on 
to Greenport on Friday.  A bit worried about the weather, bur we will see.
Eric Frank
Cat's Paw
C&C 35 Mk II




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 Original message 
From: David via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 9/1/17 2:34 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: CNC CNC mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: David mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Whereabouts???

Edgartown to Block island to Shelter Island to Greenport to Newport hence home 
to Marion, MA

As long as the cruising gods allow me this year.

C & C 40-2
Corsair.

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Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

Hmmm

I asked a friend how many times C&C might have repeated this:
He says ...

"Let me try
1. First it was that airline guy
2. North South charter guy
3. Hong Kong guy
4 Tartan Yachts guy
5. Now US Watercraft. 

That's 5!  Must be a record in the industry!"

Don

Don Harben
Viking 34
Life
www.ncyc.ca


> On Jul 24, 2017, at 11:05 PM, rjcasciato--- via CnC-List 
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> 
> Dennis..it's the old adage..if you don't learn from historyyou're 
> destined to repeat it.


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Stus-List US Watercraft receivership

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http://cdn.sailingscuttlebutt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Scan_20170724.pdf



Alerion Yachts, 

C&C Yachts, 

True North Yachts, 

North Rip Boats,  

licensed builder of several JBoat models

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Re: Stus-List Navico PH 8000 Autopilot Issue

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Navico 5000 manual

http://cs.simradyachting.com/Index.aspx?PageID=92&CategoryBrowse=Browse%2c7&FilesGallery=Download,278
 
Don

Don Harben
Viking 34
Life
www.ncyc.ca


> On May 24, 2017, at 8:16 AM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Rick,
> 
> I found the PH8000 one, which is close, but not quite the same.  It was 
> helpful, nonetheless.
> 
> I had not found the H5000 one, however.  There is quite a bit there that 
> might help.
> 
> Thank you! 
>  
> Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C&C 37/40+
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> From: Rick Taillieu via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: Rick Taillieu 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Navico PH 8000 Autopilot Issue
> 
> Bruce,
>  
> How about these, are they close to yours?
>  
> http://www.simrad-yachting.com/en-US/Products/Discontinued/Navico-H5000-Handprogrammer.aspx
>  
> http://www.simrad-yachting.com/en-US/Products/All-Discontinued-Products/Navico-PH8000-Powerpilot.aspx
>  
>  
> Rick Taillieu
> Shearwater Yacht Club
> Halifax, NS.
>  
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruce 
> Whitmore via CnC-List
> Sent: May-22-17 22:41
> To: C&C List; John Timm
> Cc: Bruce Whitmore
> Subject: Stus-List Navico PH 8000 Autopilot Issue
>  
> Hello all,
>  
> Our new (to us) 1994 C&C 37/40+ has a Navico PH 8000 autopilot.  The 
> hydraulic ram works, as I can get it to turn the wheel to the stops.  I have 
> been able to find a manual online for it, but it references the Junction 
> Box/Amplifier unit as JA 8000, where ours is clearly labeled JB 8000.  Also, 
> I can't find a manual for the wired remote controls, labled H8000 and HP8000.
>  
> When I engage the autopilot, it turns sharply port, and stays there.  The 
> instructions contain no reference to calibrating the fluxgate compass, but 
> the Mode button on the wired remote shows a calibrate function, though I 
> can't tell if that is the issue.
>  
> Does anyone here have experience with this autopilot?
>  
> Thanks in advance!
>  
> Bruce Whitmore
> 
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>  
> 
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Stus-List Fwd: The C&C 27 - Contemporary Good Looks with Sharp, Crisp Lines

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> From: "Practical Sailor" 
> Date: April 15, 2017 at 9:02:02 AM EDT
> To: sailadventu...@rogers.com
> Subject: The C&C 27 - Contemporary Good Looks with Sharp, Crisp Lines
> Reply-To: customer_serv...@belvoir.com
> 
> 
> 
> Subscribe now and save
> 
> The C&C 27 - Reviewed
>   
> Excerpted from Practical Sailor's ebook, Entry-Level Cruiser-Racers, Volume 1 
> 
> The C&C 27 followed quickly on the heels of the successful C&C 35. The design 
> is attributed to 1970, with the first boats coming off the line in 1971. The 
> boat evolved through three subsequent editions - the Mark II, III and IV (the 
> latter are hulls #915-#975, according to an owner) - with the latter 
> finishing in 1982. But the hull was essentially the same and not to be 
> confused with the MORC-influenced 27-footer that followed about 1984, with an 
> outboard rudder. That boat lasted until 1987. 
> 
> The C&C 27 is a good example of what made the company successful - 
> contemporary good looks with sharp, crisp lines that still appeal today. The 
> sheerline is handsome. Below the waterline, the swept back appendages are 
> dated but that's of little consequence to most owners. In the Mark I version, 
> the partially balanced spade rudder is angled aft, with a good portion of it 
> protruding behind the transom. In one of his reviews for Sailing magazine, 
> designer Robert described the C&C 27's rudder as a "scimitar" shape that was 
> "long in the chord and shallow." In 1974, the rudder was redesigned with a 
> "constant chord length and much greater depth and less sweep angle." 
> 
> The keel, too, was redesigned in 1974 though both are swept aft like an 
> inverted shark's fin. The new keel was given 2-1/2" more depth and the 
> maximum thickness moved forward to delay stalling. Hydrodynamic 
> considerations aside, the worst that can be said of the 27's keel is that it 
> takes extra care in blocking when the boat is hauled and set down on jack 
> stands (or "poppets" as they are called here in Rhode Island). Without a flat 
> run on the bottom of the keel, the boat wants to rock forward. 
> 
> The rig is a masthead sloop with a P or mainsail luff length of 28' 6" and an 
> E or foot length of 10' 6"; interestingly, this gives an aspect ratio of .36, 
> nearly identical to the .35 ratio of the Tartan 4100 reviewed last month. In 
> response to the September article on skinny masts with single lower shrouds, 
> the owner of a 1974 model wrote, "My 1974 C&C 27 has double lowers with a 
> tree trunk of a mast, which I know will support any headsail in any 
> condition, probably even if I drove the boat full steam into an immovable 
> object." Not so the earliest models. 
> 
> The owner of a 1977 model wrote to say that the Mark I and II models had 
> shorter rigs and more ballast. The change occurred in 1974, along with 
> several others, some of which we've already noted. 
> 
> Length overall was first given as 27' 4"; for later "marks" it is listed as 
> 27' 11". Waterline length started at 22' 2", increasing to 22' 11". The bow 
> overhang is attractive, but more than is found on most boats nowadays. 
> Remember that waterline length directly affects speed. 
> 
> Displacement, too, changed over the years, between 5,180 pounds, 5,500 pounds 
> and 5,800 pounds. (The owner of hull #54 says that boats before #250 were 
> 1,000 pounds heavier.) Depending on which waterline dimension you use, the 
> displacement/ length ratio (D/L) ranges from 211 to 237. The sail/area 
> displacement ratio (SA/D) is between 17.3 and 19.4. With moderate 
> displacement and a generous sail plan, the C&C 27 is fleet. PHRF ratings for 
> the Mark I average around 200 seconds per mile, dropping to about 190 for the 
> Mark II and 175 for the Mark III. 
> 
> From the C & C 27 review. To read the complete review of this popular 
> sailboat, in addition to thirteen other entry-level cruisers, purchase and 
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Re: Stus-List Navtec Backstay Adjuster

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

Hi
I found the information:

> David
>  416-289-7625
> 1950 Ellesmere unit 3
> repairs to Navtec hydraulic sailboat backstays 
> You can view the ad at backstay repairs

Don
V34
Life

> On Mar 24, 2017, at 5:41 PM, Don Harben  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> Last week I dropped off two integrated Navtec hydraulics to a small shop in 
> Scarbourgh near the Rigging Shoppe. He suggested two weeks. I am in Elliot 
> Lake not at home in Oakville. I will try find the info from here
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Re: Stus-List Navtec Backstay Adjuster

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Hi

Last week I dropped off two integrated Navtec hydraulics to a small shop in 
Scarbourgh near the Rigging Shoppe. He suggested two weeks. I am in Elliot Lake 
not at home in Oakville. I will try find the info from here

Don
V34
Life
www.ncyc.ca

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Re: Stus-List Yacht club weather station

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

Wow!

Thank you for wise thoughts!

All this coming together is valued. The nearest member is 1/2 hour away and 
some of us are a 7 hour drive away. 

Don
Life
V34
Previously
CC 29-1
CC 24

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Re: Stus-List Yacht club weather station

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Hi Dennis,

We are quite interested in exploring station at www.ncyc.ca. The regular 
weather stations and private Weather Underground stations are physically far 
away. The North Channel NOAA style Environment Canada Weather Buoy is our 
current go to for current weather. 

Our club is remote enough that neither cable, fibre nor digital phone internet 
are available. We do have a cell internet hub with 50G a month under a special 
remote and rural internet access program. 

We are curious how much data is used in a day/week/month connecting the weather 
information to Weather Underground?

Don

Don Harben
Viking 34
Life
www.ncyc.ca


> On Mar 21, 2017, at 7:48 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I got a crazy bug a few months ago to install a weather station at my yacht 
> club, Pontchartrain Yacht Club on the north shore of Lake Pontchartrain at 
> Mandeville, LA. There were no wind stations anywhere close to my club.  There 
> are some wind data/forecasts available through premium wind services or 
> personal weather stations further inland.  
> 
> I'm sure some of you might have already done this but for those who haven't 
> it's really easy to install a weather station, hook it to your club's WiFi 
> and then link it to Weather Underground's wundermap.com.  Once you go live on 
> wundermap, WU also provides a webpage where you select your weather station 
> and it builds the HTML code that you can copy and paste into your club's 
> website.  Real time wind data will be available on the website.
> 
> I tagged a few of the club racers for some $$$ and bought this station:  
> 
> http://www.ambientweather.com/amws1000wifi.html
> 
> This weekend we installed it on the club flagpole which stands fairly 
> unobstructed in front of our club on the lakefront.  Pics of me and a fellow 
> member working on the install are here:  https://www.facebook.com/PontYC/  
> (I'm the idiot without the hat!)
> 
> The station communicates via RF to a console which we installed in our bar 
> and connected to the club WiFi.  The race committee can easily look at it for 
> skippers meetings.  Connecting it to the club WiFi and to wundermap.com was 
> easy and straightforward.
> 
> To see our station go here:  
> 
> https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KLAMANDE128#history
> 
> Scroll down to the neat graphs!
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List A greatful thank you

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... did I hear rumours of a party?

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Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

I am wondering if that might energy might contribute to some stunned operator 
behaviours?

Don


> On Feb 22, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> that much power probably stuns the fish, which then floats to the surface to 
> be picked up…   :^)
> 
> — Fred
> 

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Stus-List Tech Indentured Cruising

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

Oh Fred!

Don

Don Harben
Viking 34
Life
www.ncyc.ca

> 
> http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=180512#entry5630611
> 
> ==> BFSGeekZone 04: Signal K and Indentured Cruising
> 
>   
> BFSGeekZone 04: Signal K and Indentured Cruising
> An extensive, groundbreaking run-through of the technologies for and 
> ramifications of connecting your boat to Th...
> 
> 
> Published on Jan 30, 2017
> An extensive, groundbreaking run-through of the technologies for and 
> ramifications of connecting your boat to The Cloud! Is it really the promised 
> "Whole New World" of social boating - or something a little scarier?
> 
> You have some serious choices to make. Rest easy. I can help.
> 
> --
> 
> List of all links referenced in video:
> 
> 00:06:53 (iPads as Primary Chartplotters)
> https://youtu.be/O08iqjSY9U4
> 
> 
> 00:13:32 (GoFree Vessel Page)
> https://gofreemarine.com/vessel/
> 
> 
> 00:14:23 (Maretron N2KView Page)
> http://www.maretron.com/products/N2KV...
> 
> 
> 00:18:48 (Mr. Sigel's Raspberry Pi Post)
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/activ...
> 
> 
> 00:20:55 (IKommunicate Signal K Info)
> http://ikommunicate.com/
> 
> 
> 00:25:22 (Mr. Sigel's Podcast Quote)
> http://www.sailloot.com/sail-loot-pod...
> 
> 
> 00:31:26 (Signal K Overview Page)
> http://signalk.org/overview.html
> 
> And this link to NMEA's recognition of Signal K - which is also a big step - 
> but also lays out controls for the hardware which will be used to do the 
> translation (like the Actisense and Raspberry Pi devices we discussed):
> 
> http://www.nmea.org/content/nmea_sign...
> 
> 
>   Don 
>  
> (416) 648-7058
>  Don Harben
> 
>   
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3JH2E Engine Questions

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

Hi

I looked here  http://l-36.com/index.php?menu=1 
http://l-36.com/manuals.php?menu=6 but yours was close but not there.

Don
V34

> On Jan 28, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> One more thing to check – water pump impeller.
>  
> If this list does not help you with engine manual, you might try the SBO 
> (Sailboat Owners forum). It has much wider reach, though not as good advice 
> (;-).
>  
> Marek
> 1994 c279 “Legato”
> Ottawa, ON
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
> Sent: January 28, 2017 13:35
> To: C&C List
> Cc: Bruce Whitmore
> Subject: Stus-List Yanmar 3JH2E Engine Questions
>  
> Hello all,
> 
> 
> The engine in our 37/40+ is a Yanmar 3JH2E.  Anyone know where I can download 
> a full repair manual?  Ideally, I'd like to find one free, as I know there is 
> a full manual on board, but I want to begin reading everything I can before I 
> take possession. 
> 
> In talking with the surveyor, he indicated that these engines are pretty good 
> about not needing the fuel system to be bled after changing out the racor 
> filter if I fill the bowl with fuel when reassembling it.  Can anyone here 
> verify that?  I'm new to diesels, though I had a 1977 27MKIII for 16 years 
> with an Atomic 4, and am very comfortable with doing work on my boat(s), so 
> I'm guessing I can learn what I need to.
> 
> The boat's been basically sitting for the last 5 years, with the last oil 
> change having been done in 2011, and it only having 30 or less hours on the 
> engine since then.
> 
> Before we leave the dock I want to change the oil & filter, change the racor 
> filter and engine fuel filter, change the transmission fluid, and change the 
> coolant.  Beyond that we will clear all the strainers.  I'm guessing that I'm 
> not thinking of something (solely related to the engine at this point). 
> Anything else I should do?
>  
> Bruce Whitmore
> 
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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Re: Stus-List Toronto Boat Show

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Hi Chuck,

That invitation sounds great. 

I am going Thursday-Sunday of the last weekend. Viking folks are meeting 
Saturday at lunch. A couple of C&C owners from NCYC will be there with me on 
some of the days. I am encouraging them to join the PhotoAlbum. 

Don
Life
V34
www.ncyc.ca

> On Jan 18, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Fellow CnC’ers,
> I’m heading to the Toronto Boat Show next week and plan to get there on 
> Thursday.  I’ll be walking the show for the most part, but plan to spend time 
> in the Transat Marine booth taking questions and helping with rope 
> information.  I’ll be there through mid afternoon Saturday Jan 28.
> I’d love to put faces to some of the folks I’ve talked to in the email forum, 
> so if anyone plans to go to the show and would like to chat about boats, 
> projects or whatever, look me up at the Transat booth.
> Is anyone else going to be working the show?
> Chuck Gilchrest (Novabraid USA)
> S/V Half Magic
> 1983 35 Landfall
> Padanaram, MA
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Re: Stus-List Energy audit spreadsheet

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

> OceanPlanet Energy-Marine Energy Storage, Solar Power, Management
OceanPlanet Energy Calculator
  http://www.bruceschwab.com/oceanplanet-energy-calculator/

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Re: Stus-List FW: Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

This is what happens when you reply to spam email

By Alex Rosenthal

"Hello James Veitch,

I have an interesting business proposal I want to share with you,

Solomon."

James makes the uncommon choice of hitting the "reply" button, and so begins 
what has to be one of the funniest TED Talks of all time, "This is what happens 
when you reply to spam email." It's good for a laugh and a quick pick-me-up. 
But there's also a fascinating subtext: What's going on in this phisher's head? 
Does he actually think he's going to succeed in conning James? Or at some point 
does the scammer just decide to play along and participate in an impromptu, 
improvisational piece of performance art? (I’d also like to know whether this 
guy is aware that his email exchange is the subject of a TED Talk that’s been 
watched millions of times.)

I love that Veitch's performance is equal parts stand-up comedy, TED Talk and 
epistolary narrative. But what I love even more is that a profoundly and 
absurdly human interaction emerges from the most profane of places. It makes me 
wonder what sort of adventures my spam folder might hold -- and how we might 
take advantage of spam as an untapped medium of communication. Perhaps future 
spam will be 25 percent cons, 25 percent unsolicited poems and 50 percent 
puzzles with cryptic, encoded messages.

A boy can dream.

Watch James Veitch's TED Talk

> On Dec 24, 2016, at 3:08 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
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Re: Stus-List Looking for used sailboat stuff

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... value added items snow encrusted 

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Stus-List C&C Yachts Part One, by Don Finkle: RCR Yachts Sailor's News

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HI,

http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=aa4d9ef732c6edf3dabc4fd51&id=47c800cf93&e=4aeaac72bf

Don
Don Harben
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C&C 29 mk1
Life (PO Cabernet)
Oakville Yacht Squadron 

C&C 24
Joy (PO Snow ) 50 Point YC
Oakville Yacht Squadron 


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Re: Stus-List New Transducer, please....

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Love that auto correct when careless!

> Fred. Pleeease put me in line for an Airmar techy thru hull transducer..  
> Really!

Don

Don Harben
Viking 34
Life
www.ncyc.ca


> On Nov 18, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Don Harben  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> Wow, boat tech is moving along!
> 
> Fred. Pleeease put me in eye for ab Amir techy thru hull transducer..  Really!
> 
> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PanbosMarineElectronicsCommunicationsWeblog/~3/5M-M72n-WJc/mets_2016_navico_fusion_airmar_and_signal_k.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email
> 
> Don
> 
> Don Harben
> Viking 34
> Life
> www.ncyc.ca
> 
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Stus-List New Transducer, please....

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

Hi folks,

Wow, boat tech is moving along!

Fred. Pleeease put me in eye for ab Amir techy thru hull transducer..  Really!

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PanbosMarineElectronicsCommunicationsWeblog/~3/5M-M72n-WJc/mets_2016_navico_fusion_airmar_and_signal_k.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email

Don

Don Harben
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Life
www.ncyc.ca

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Re: Stus-List Race Committee for Pursuit Race

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Hi

NCYC will also be trying a pursuit race best summer. 

I would also appreciate spreadsheet templates with sample data. 

We are a non racing cruising club with very few boats having a PHRF 
ceetificate. This makes the  base numbers imaginative!

Don

Don Harben
Viking 34
Life
www.ncyc.ca


> On Oct 10, 2016, at 11:13 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks everybody. Randy, if it were not too much trouble it would be great to 
> see your spreadsheet. Dennis sent one that I could definitely use too. I have 
> this great IRC version, but it doesn't apply for PHRF.  Regatta Rasta man is 
> pay to play so I am going to pass on that. We'll be doing time on distance 
> with the course set up ahead of thin time.
> 
> Keep sharing your experience of you have more to add. Thanks again everyone!
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016, 6:39 PM RANDY  wrote:
>> Yeah we just had one yesterday.  Start times per PHRF rating were calculated 
>> using TOT (A=715, B=515) assuming a two-hour race.  We just race laps around 
>> three pre-designated marks in our lake.  90 minutes into the race, the next 
>> mark ahead for the lead boat becomes the last mark everybody has to round.  
>> We don't use an RC boat for this; starting at the right time is an honor 
>> system (and the finish order is obvious; no correction needed).  We use a 
>> pair of no-wake-zone buoys as the start line, and the marina channel markers 
>> as the finish line.  You can see our SIs here, including a table of start 
>> times per PHRF rating (assuming a 2:00 p.m. start for the first (slowest) 
>> boat racing) - 
>> https://csyc.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/CSYC-2016-PursuitRace.pdf.  I 
>> don't have the spreadsheet that was used to figure these start times, but I 
>> could probably get it if you want it.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Randy Stafford
>> S/V Grenadine
>> C&C 30-1 #7
>> Ken Caryl, CO
>> 
>> From: "Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List" 
>> To: "C&C List" 
>> Cc: "Kevin Driscoll" 
>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 5:16:20 PM
>> 
>> Subject: Stus-List Race Committee for Pursuit Race
>> 
>> Has anyone been organized and been Race Committee for a 'Pursuit 
>> Race'before? I am curious how you went about it. 
>> 
>> Obviously there is some calculation of start times in relation to each 
>> boat's rating. These are our contestants. I figure there will be three 
>> starts. 1 for the 'Level' racers, 1 for 'No Score' racers, and another for 
>> PHRF, i.e. the Pursuit racers. This is the first race in our winter series, 
>> which runs till March. We thought we might kick it off with a fun race 
>> format. Thanks for your input!
>> 
>> Kevin 
>> 30-2
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Re: Stus-List Sailing instrument updating

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Ah yes

A new fleet of radio control  arm chair sailing craft ready for DarknStormy 
adventures...

Don

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Re: Stus-List Filtered Fresh water

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Hi,

I strong suggest NOT allowing any type of filter to freeze once it has had 
water in it.  Holes are created in the filter medium.

I am involved with two land based water purification systems sourcing from lake 
water and one from a cistern.  It has has been an interesting learning curve 
involving filtering and UV treatment compared to "Water Makers" using reverse 
osmosis. 

Don



> On Sep 13, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Re the filter, I have had good taste-improvement results from a quite 
> inexpensive whole-house clear shell water filter, using carbon cartridges, 
> bought from a big box home supply store. The goal was removing "tank taste", 
> and it has worked well this first year. I plan to change cartridges each 
> season, and need to remember that its one more thing to switch out and drain 
> as part of winterizing, but that's easy. It came with pipe thread fittings, 
> so adapters to PEX would be required. An example is:
> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Glacier-Bay-Advanced-Household-Water-Filtration-System-HDG2VS4/205582288
> 
> Nate
> 1980 C&C 30-1 on the St. Croix River, WI
> 1994 Tartan 31 Siskiwit Bay Marina, Lake Superior
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Anyone ever remove the fresh water foot pump and instead install a filtered 
>> drinking water faucet? I'm thinking of doing so but am not completely sure 
>> if removing the foot pump is common or not. If not, what type of water 
>> filters would be good for installing under the galley sink and providing 
>> drinkable water on board without adding another faucet. 
>> 
>> I currently have a fresh water foot pump, salt water foot pump, and standard 
>> hot/cold water sink faucet. 
>> 
>> Where would I put the filter as well? Before or after the pump, before or 
>> after the water heater, one at each sink (galley/head)? I can't seem to find 
>> decent inline filters that have good flow and fittings for 1/2" PEX tubing. 
>> 
>> As I said in an earlier email, I'm replumbing the entire system using 1/2" 
>> PEX with SeaTech 35 series fittings, putting in a 3 GPM Shurflo pump, and 
>> would like to add filtering to make sure the water is drinkable. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Kevin
>> '82 34 #473
>> Japhys Spirit
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Re: Stus-List 1985 C&C 33-2 Cradle Needed

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Hi,

My Viking 34 folding cradle from the Toronto Cradle Shop might be available 
still.

2 hr east of the Sault. www.ncyc.ca

Don

> On Sep 12, 2016, at 9:22 PM, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> The company north of Toronto builds a nice fitting cradle for right around 
> $2000 last fall when I enquired. I had a look at one and then proceeded to 
> build one very similar for about $950 in materials. Could have been cheaper 
> as I used heavier material for the base. One of the features is that they 
> fold very nearly flat for shipping or storage. 
> Brad
> "Pulse" 
> C&C 33 MKII
> Lake Huron
> 
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Stus-List Masthead Tech

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Hi Fred,

My mast is down for inner surgery and prepping for add ons. Based in the Lake 
Huron North Channel, I would like to explore afield into Michigan and Superior. 

MASTHEAD
A. Marinebeam masthead Nav and anchor
B. Windex 
C. Wind transducer 
D. Cell repeater aerial
E. VHF aerial
F. HD 1080 cam

SPREADER ZONE
A. Steaming Nav
B. Foredeck light
C. Genoa telltale night sailing light
D. Spreader side deck illumination

STERN POST, ARCH and or BACKSTAY
A. Solar panels
B. Radar
C. AIS/VHFbackup
D. Sat radio


Questions!

1. What brand/model/source is the cell repeater aerial?

2. Does it benefit from, or need, a mast head plate ground plane?

3. At what proximity does a cell signal repeater aerial and a VHF aerial start 
to interfere with each other? A wireless HD camera connecting to the on boat 
wifi router, either 2.4 or 5?

4.  Did you use LMR-600 for the aerials? MR-600-DB?

5. If I a do a wired masthead HD digital camera, would you have any suggestions 
for camera and/or cable?

5. Did you use a wire mesh choking strain relief anywhere? 

6. Do you guess or crystal ball if Raymarine might change their wind transducer 
cable/plugs? I am waiting for the next generation of Raymarine wind transducer 
to see if there are updates to compete with Garmin transducers.

7. How do you recommend sealing the mast head connections?

8. Spreader deck lights?

9. 

This looks like consulting time! I am happy to pay the consult opening if 
others are interested.

Don

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Re: Stus-List Singing Rigging

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Thank you! This gets lots of tangential rig visuals of wind flow!

Don

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Re: Stus-List Crew needed in Annapolis tonight

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Please send private vertical landing jet. 

Don

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Re: Stus-List Wednesday Night racing

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http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2016/07/12/summer-tradition-still-going-strong/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Scuttlebutt%204623%20-%20July%2013%202016&utm_content=Scuttlebutt%204623%20-%20July%2013%202016+CID_9b7e47dad615547db1dfe51d875d17cd&utm_source=Email%20Newsletter&utm_term=Summer%20Tradition%20Still%20Going%20Strong


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Re: Stus-List C&Cs in other places

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 and perhaps a business card 

> On Jul 7, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> flyer over the next few days for suggestions, edits and distribution. Then we 
> can put them up in our clubs and marine stores, or pass it to other C&C’ers. 


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Stus-List Stu's 30 for selling again?

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Sailboat, 1973 C&C 30

Very nicely tricked out 30 if this was his!


Don

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Re: Stus-List Pedestal wiring

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Brilliant thoughtful Fred!

Don

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Re: Stus-List Friday Night Rescue

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Fabulous observation and action. A round of virtual drinks for you!

I single hand. I have been working out my own come back alive strategies/gear. 
It is time to consider single handed rescues more carefully. 

Don

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> On Jun 13, 2016, at 4:42 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Suddenly Alone” class


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Re: Stus-List Salon Lighting

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Hi Marek,

I also live in Ontario Canada. Where did you source yours from?

Don

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Stus-List SUMLOG parts

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Hi folks,

A friend at NCYC is looking for SUMLOG parts, speed transducer and head. 

Don

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Stus-List West Marine Canada Policies

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Hi Canadians,

I was in the OAKVILLE Ontario Canada West Marine store. I believe that this is 
the last store that remains open in Canada. 

The manager said that there are new policies in place for Canada:

1. They will not honour sale or clearance prices from the website. 

2. Items purchased in a West US store can not be returned for refund or repair 
to the Canadian store. 

3. There are no longer Canadian flyers in print or email with sale pricing.  

Don

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Re: Stus-List Mast boot pic

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Don

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> On May 10, 2016, at 11:02 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Here's a couple pics of the grey self fusing tape used for Touche's mast boot.
> 
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsaHF0RTBxZDFla1k
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List New C&C 37 Owner SSB antenna

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... perhaps a multipurpose arrangement? 

BBQ connection for dinner? 

Lifeline connection to fend off pirates of the Great Lakes?

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Re: Stus-List Considering Head Replacement on 35 mk III

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Hi 

I have the same original head working well, but a used pump assembly to rebuild 
would be great to have to swap in. Look for one to rebuild and have ready!

Don

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> On Apr 20, 2016, at 2:30 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> put on some heavy rubber gloves, take the Wicox home and bleach the heck out 
> of it and rebuild it.  It'll be like new and all the hoses will be routed 
> properly!


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Re: Stus-List mast wire spec?

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Hi Fred,

I have a similar project in mind for mid summer.

 I am curious about the wire spec that ended up using for lights, cell and VHF 
cable?

I am also curious which cell aerial you went with.

Don

> On Apr 18, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> just finished rewiring my mast over the weekend, upgrading with new LED nav 
> lights from Marinebeam, along with new low-loss VHF and cell-repeater antenna 
> cabling, and a Windex light and masthead wind transducer cable as well


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Re: Stus-List Ontario Forward hatch rubber seal

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

Hi Steve,

I think that you are a Toronto boat!

 I need some as well, in two sizes, small head hatch and forward hatch.  Fred 
was fabulous putting together a plexi template order for my small hatch. Ed put 
together a premium butyl order and we rendezvoused outside the Art Gallery of 
Ontario 

I am wondering if we might find a local Ontario supplier for the glue and the 
foam rod and split it up. I will check around to see what I can find from these 
possible suppliers:

1. SB Simpson Industrial Supplies, Tools and Equipment 
http://www.sbsimpson.com/

2. Atkins and Hoyle
http://atkinshoyle.com/hatch-repairs.html

3. Hammerhead Nautical Systems

http://www.hhns.ca/products-parts

4. Holland Marine
http://hollandmarine.com

I am 7-8 hr drive from my boat ... so I will go with others A&H gasket sizing. 

Don
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Oakville for now ...


> On Apr 18, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Joel, I need some!
> Feel free to email me offline to arrange $$ and shipping. No way any of us 
> needs 100 feet.
> 
> Steve
> Suhana, C&C 32
> Toronto
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Atkins & Hoyle will sell you the world's most expensive seal, or you can get 
>> a large roll at McMaster Carr.
>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#epdm-foam-cords/=116i66x
>> 
>> or hope someone has some laying around.  I'm ordering 1/2 inch if anyone 
>> needs some.
>> 
>> BTW, I used Goo Gone to loosen the adhesive.  Worked great!
>> 
>> Joel
>> 35/3
>> Annapolis
>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Franklin Schenk via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> It appears that the seal on the forward hatch on our C&C 29 is leaking.  I 
>>> was thinking of replacing it with a 3/8 by 3/4 foam rubber seal.  I cut out 
>>> a piece of the original seal and it looks as if it was round.  Any 
>>> suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Frank
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Re: Stus-List Roller furling manufacturer

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Hi

I think that I have one stashed away ... Which parts are you looking for?

Don
Oakville
Ontario


> On Apr 15, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> You might find what you need here.
> 
> http://www.rigrite.com/furling/stearn/stearn.html
> 
> 
> Rick Taillieu
> Nemesis
> '75 C&C 25  #371
> Shearwater Yacht Club
> Halifax, NS.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jason
> Ward via CnC-List
> Sent: April-15-16 14:50
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: jaw...@mymts.net
> Subject: Stus-List Roller furling manufacturer
> 
> Does anyone know which manufacturer used this symbol. I am trying to find an
> owners or service manual for it.   Any information that can be provided is
> appreciated. 
> 
> Jason
> 
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Re: Stus-List Free Stuff...

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> 
> Hi folks,

I am making a contribution to Stu for David Risch's kind donation of some gear. 
This officially a contribution by David to funding of or C&C tables pulled 
together for beverages, chat and most importantly, collaborative problem 
solving.  

Big Thank you to David and Stu.

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Re: Stus-List Western Lake Superior CnC Rendezvous

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 perhaps next summer for a round Superior trip from Huron North Channel!

Don
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> On Apr 11, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Tom Lynch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Count me in.   I'd love to meet you guys in Bayfield for a beer or two. 
> 
> Tom Lynch
> Escape (to be renamed) C&C 33II
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Don’t forget Nate Flesness.  Any others out there?
>> 
>> As far as the recent weather goes… G!
>> 
>> — Fred
>> 
>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>> 
>>> On Apr 7, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I’ll jump on the band wagon…
>>>  
>>> Fred/Neil – want to meet at the Bayfield Creamery for a Western Lake 
>>> Superior rendezvous?  I’ll buy the first round.   FYI - I hear 3-5” came 
>>> down yesterday and a couple more due tomorrow.   
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Western Lake Superior CnC Rendezvous

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Maybe next summer will include a Lake Superior long trip!

Don

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> On Apr 7, 2016, at 11:56 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Don’t forget Nate Flesness.  Any others out there?
> 
> As far as the recent weather goes… G!
> 
> — Fred
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I’ll jump on the band wagon…
>>  
>> Fred/Neil – want to meet at the Bayfield Creamery for a Western Lake 
>> Superior rendezvous?  I’ll buy the first round.   FYI - I hear 3-5” came 
>> down yesterday and a couple more due tomorrow.   
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Stus-List BUPS - Boat Used Part Search Engine -

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Hi,

Sometimes, ok often with my budget, I am looking for parts that are not new 
chandlery prices. I came across this search site that may be helpful for 
others. 

http://www.boatusedpartsearch.com/


Don

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Re: Stus-List Solar charger selector switch

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... and only want a penny for every unfused hot lead on boats...

I would then being be able to buy my dream craft named  FRED FUSE

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Re: Stus-List CnC Rendezvous

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... I have a 10,000 lb trailer for sale enabling having your C&C at multiple 
rendevous's


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Re: Stus-List Lake Michigan CnC Rendezvous

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HI

I might be interested in coming from the North Channel. A little advertising 
ahead with the other clubs and marinas here might work both for a rendezvous 
and to bring on list folks. 



Don

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> On Apr 5, 2016, at 2:47 PM, ggambel--- via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Might be interested, depending on when and where it is.
> Glenn Gambel
> C&C 36, White Lake (Whitehall, MI.)
> 
> -
> 
> From: "Lee Rosenbaum via CnC-List" 
> To: 
> Cc: "Lee Rosenbaum"
> Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 12:58:44 -0500
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Lake Michigan CnC Rendezvous
> 
>> We have three C&C 33 at Kenosha Yacht Club.
> There might be some interest.
> 
> Lee Rosenbaum
> Kookaburra C&C 33 MK2
> Kenosha, WI
>  
>> --
>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 12:02:55 GMT
>> From: wwadjo...@aol.com 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> Subject: Stus-List Lake Michigan CnC Rendezvous
>> Message-ID: <000f4242.06cd8fb32730c...@aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Any Lake Michigan listers interested in a LM meet up? ?Pentwater Mi 
>> Would be central. ?So would Wisconsin shore. ?Just sayin' we can't let the 
>> coasters have all the fun! ?Bill WalkerEvening StarCnC 36Pentwater, Mi.
>> Sent from my LG G Pad F? 8.0, an AT&T 4G LTE tablet
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Re: Stus-List Selling my trailer: 10,000lb limit

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

Hi Danny,

I will carry the viking with ease, but I just don't need it now.

Don

> On Apr 2, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sorry,  I guess if it could the V33/34 you wouldn't be selling it...
> 
> Danny
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> ---- Original message 
> From: Don Harben via CnC-List 
> Date: 4/1/2016 9:08 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list 
> Cc: Don Harben 
> Subject: Stus-List Selling my trailer: 10,000lb limit
> 
> Hi
> 
> Intrusion alert! 
> 
> I am selling my trailer:
> Sailboat Trailer, OFFER? 10,000lb Capacity, Ramp Launch, Galv
> 
> http://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/oakville-halton-region/sailboat-trailer-offer-10-000lb-capacity-ramp-launch-galv/1152279495
> 
> Don
> 
> Don Harben
> Viking 34
> Life
> www.ncyc.ca
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Stus-List Selling my trailer: 10,000lb limit

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

Hi

Intrusion alert! 

I am selling my trailer:
Sailboat Trailer, OFFER? 10,000lb Capacity, Ramp Launch, Galv

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/oakville-halton-region/sailboat-trailer-offer-10-000lb-capacity-ramp-launch-galv/1152279495

Don

Don Harben
Viking 34
Life
www.ncyc.ca

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Re: Stus-List US to Canada shipping

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

US shipping to Canada argh expensive learning ...

USPS coming to Canada Post is my only acceptable shipper.

Divide the shipping items into smaller value packages can sometimes result in 
coming  through with no brokerage or sales taxes.  No duty has ever been due. 
Canada Post brokerage is typically only $5 compared to $25=>$50=>$100 with the 
big name couriers. 

There are shipping addresses for couriers in most US border towns.  This works 
but always always always declare... Seizure of your car or boat, let alone the 
goods and fines are not unrealistic possibilities. A friend had to go to court 
in the Saulte .. Declaration at the border usually means paying the sales 
taxes.

Did I say 35% to 45% exchange rates depending upon your credit card, Interac , 
or Paypal piece of the pie .

Don

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Re: Stus-List C&C 34-1 - Battery Strap Down

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

I am looking for knock down strategies so that guests are not laid over to 90 
degrees. Bulkhead attachment bolts and containers ...


> racing I expect the batteries to stay put when the boat is laid over to 90 
> degrees.


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Re: Stus-List Ontario Survey

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> 
http://www.pcmarinesurveys.com/
Port Credit
He does travel ...

William Wallace Gouk AMS®, Port Credit Marine Surveys,
He detailed real information LOL ... more then you may want if truth is not 
on your search list!

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Re: Stus-List Autopilot Gremlin - Caution!

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

I had a similar experience however after great confusion and frustration I 
tracked the problems down. I have a tiller with a Raymarine ST2000 that 
suggested that I needed to redesign my keel on the North Channel granite!
 
The two culprits?

1. VHF handheld on my waist belt.

2. a classic family 1940s stainless sailing knife with marlin spike.


  Don
  Viking 34 Life
  



 From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Autopilot Gremlin - Caution!
 


Bridges are full of rebar and will turn an autopilot quite a bit. So will 
sitting near the fluxgate with an iPhone on your belt with the magnetic closing 
latch holster.
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I


From:CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts via 
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Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 11:42 PM
To: Rick Brass; 1 CnC List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Autopilot Gremlin - Caution!
 
We have a few magnetic anomalies around here, I know not to put Otto in charge 
anywhere near them. Most are on the charts. Some are scary finding them. 


Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
 
On 2 November 2014 19:05, Rick Brass via CnC-List  wrote:
Good rule, Dennis.
> 
>The bridge is, of course, iron and will alter the magnetic field seen by your 
>compass to some greater or lesser extent, depending on the amount of iron and 
>the proximity to your fluxgate compass.
> 
>I was sitting next to the tiller pilot on my 25 one night, and had my car keys 
>in my hip pocket. When I got up to look at a channel marker I was passing 
>near, the boat changed course rapidly. Suddenly I was not just “close to” the 
>mark, my standing rigging was tangled in it.
> 
>It was a very expensive lesson in just how sensitive those little fluxgate 
>compasses can be.
> 
> 
>Rick Brass
>Washington, NC
> 
> 
> 
>From:CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
>via CnC-List
>Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 9:25 PM
>To: CnClist
>Subject: Stus-List Autopilot Gremlin - Caution!
> 
>Just a caution for those who regularly use an autosteerer.  The Admiral and I 
>were using the wheelpilot (Simrad WP30) as we passed under the Dauphin Island 
>last weekend on our way to Pensacola.
>In the middle of the bridge, the wheelpilot went bonkers and steered hard to 
>starboard.  Luckily I was right there and disengaged it before we hit the 
>fenders guarding the passage.  
>No idea what caused it.  Underground cables, gremlins, space aliens, etc.? 
> There was a line of overhead power cables but they were about a tenth of a 
>mile behind us.
>All I know is new rule for the boat now.  No autosteering through a bridge.
>Dennis C.
>Touche' 35-1 #83
>Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Re-chrome Barient 27 ST?

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

My two Barient 27 ST winches work very well, however the chrome on the drum 
shows that! Has anyone been successful having winch drums re-chromed?
 
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Re: Stus-List Backstay Tension

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... just watch the boat bend ...
 
  Don 
         
  



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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 7:54:37 PM
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Tim:


It's important to know the force being applied, not the pressure.  Force is 
equal to pressure multiplied by the area of the hydraulic cylinder, and all 
cylinders are not the same.  There's a Navtec manual on the photoalbum web 
site.  Find out which hydraulic cylinder you have, and look up the cylinder's 
area in the Navtec manual.  The C&C 35   uses #10 rod, with a breaking strength 
of 10,300 lbs. Recommended preload limit is 25% - 33% of breaking strength, or 
2600 - 3,400 lbs.  Absolute preload limit is 40% of breaking strength or 4,100 
lbs.  You can use these numbers to figure out the recommended and maximum 
pressures based on your cylinder size.  You can also order a free, force ring 
label from Navtec to apply to your hydraulic gauge.  Remember to specify 
cylinder size when ordering the Force ring label.

Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

Rose City YC

Portland, OR


Hi all 35-3 racers (and others with hydraulics), how much do you tension your 
backstay to get an acceptably straight forestay in 20-25kts?  We were racing in 
that last night and our forestay was way looser than I wanted with the backstay 
at 2000psi (2 on the hydraulic panel).  I have never gone above this before 
(1.8 seemed to be plenty for most conditions last year), but wondered what 
others maxed out at.

I think the backstay is -10 rod with associated cylinder and we have a navtec 
panel that manages both backstay and vang.

Thanks,

Tim
Mojito
C&C 35-3
Branford, CT
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