Re: Stus-List Stove

[Eric Cahn via CnC-List]

Most people don’t know that what’s known as “Natural Gas” is actually
composed of multiple gases: Propane, butane, ethane, and methane. Propane,
a part of “raw” natural gas, is separated from the other gas components
during processing at most gas facilities.

Since propane contains more than twice the energy of natural gas (one cubic
foot of propane = 2,516 BTUs, while one cubic foot of natural gas = 1,030
BTUs), it’s much more efficient than natural gas.

It's mildly lighter than propane alone, but does dissipate faster in air.


On Oct 28, 2017 7:02 PM, "John Pennie via CnC-List" 
wrote:

That is a good point Jack and thanks for reminding everyone.  Very easy to
let your guard down with these little butane canisters.

John


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> On Oct 28, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Steve Thomas via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Natural gas is lighter than air, but both butane and propane are heavier.
>
> Steve Thomas
> C MKIII
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>  "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List"  wrote:
> I think butane is lighter than air (unlike propane), but I could be wrong.
>
> From: jackbrennan via CnC-List
> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 2:33 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: jackbrennan
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Stove
>
> I hope everyone using portable stoves fueled by butane or small propane
canisters is taking the appropriate safety precautions. Both types of
stoves can cause explosions.
>
> The canisters should not be stored inside the boat unless it is an
isolated locker with a drain to the outside.
>
> I keep mine, for a rail grill, in a large pvc pipe tied to the rail with
holes in the bottom for any stray gas to drain. A couple of years ago, a
canister malfunctioned.
>
> I was really happy it was not down below. It would have filled the boat
with propane..
>
> Jack Brennan
> Former C 25
> Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
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Re: Stus-List Stove

[Eric Cahn via CnC-List]

I have a 1977 26. Mine came with a two burner alcohol stove starboard of
companion way and galley sink. I have the bolt on pot clamps and works
wonderfully, especially perking coffee. If you have to mount onehmm.
perhaps a gimbal one port side, forward of ice box.

On Oct 26, 2017 15:22, "Kyle Davis via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Hello everyone...new owner of a 1977 C 26. I have owned a Bayliner
> sailboat and still have a Catalina 25. Really excited about this C, but
> I’m working on where to install a stove. I’m located in Washington State
> and coffee is a must. I mostly prepare food on a grill in the cockpit. So I
> could use a single burner. Just looking for advice and ideas.
>
> The boat has never had a name and I’m considering using my first
> grandson’s name, Killian.
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Re: Stus-List List or forum

[Eric Cahn via CnC-List]

I rarely post, but do try to read most things.  Some subjects are more
important and relevant to me and some posts I just plain delete either
because I have a zillion posts in my mailbox or because I'm not interested
in subject or how the conversation has digressed from the topic.

I would much prefer a forum format.  I am part of the Cruiser's and
Sailing Forums and it works very well for me.  I would like to see
something like it.  This current list thing is a pain in my rumpus trying
to find the posting I want and scrolling past all the endless copied posts
that completely unnecessary.  My emaill does NOT automatically sort through
the minutia.

Sure topics do tend to digress in the same manner, but

- they send me an email automatically each day with latest topics posted to
in a simple format with links to the post.
- can look back a very long way in various topics and read up on the
issue.  This is helpful for new folks or if you have a new problem and you
want to learn more from the past.
- pictures are nice.  I have a few things I need help identifying and no
way to post it here and don't know where to begin describing them.  A forum
could help with that.

Ugh, can't think of anything else at the moment.  I know there are more
benefits to forum.

FORUM IS MY VOTE!
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Re: Stus-List Deck hardware for mooring

[Eric Cahn via CnC-List]

{{{You want to size mooring lines so there is some give, just like an
anchor
 line. Bigger is not necessarily better.

 In a large storm, stagger maybe 5 lines of different length so that one
 takes over as another breaks. They will break in big storms.

 I never saw a mooring cleat pull out. Lines always went first. A main
 culprit was an unusually large wave that would pull the bow up and snap a
 perfectly good, protected line. Make the lines as long as they can be in a
 storm.

 I was on a helix mooring. The anchors always held, but a weak point was
 the line from the helix to the mooring. They need to be replaced every few
 years or after particularly bad storms like hurricanes.}}}

What about using line snubbers for the main pennants and a safety backup
set to the maximum stretch of the snubber.  This seems it would help the
shock loads on the pennants AND on the mooring line.  Perhaps even run a
couple of snubbers in series to really reduce shock.  Just an idea.  Could
it work?
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Stus-List What is it for? ???

[Eric Cahn via CnC-List]

I have a box under starboard cockpit bench that catches rain from whole
seat and has a drain open to bilge. I am changing its drain to out the
bilge pump outlet below it, as I have removed my bilge loop and am now
pumping out near gunwhale.

What was it designed to do? What have others done to best utilize this
  currently annoying thing?

Eric Cahn
S/V Lattitudes
CC 26
Washington, NC
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