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[Mazen Aziz via CnC-List]

Hi can you please removed me from the emailing list?

Thank you,

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Re: Stus-List Overheating yanmar 3gm30

[Mazen Aziz via CnC-List]

Thanks everyone for the help here. Here is an update and what I did this 
morning. I took off beginning of every hose and blow in it to make sure there 
is no blockage somewhere. Then topped every hose with coolant manually. Some of 
them specially the top ones off the engine block did have bubbles coming out as 
I was pouring coolant. Anyways engine has been running now for almost half an 
hour. Temp staying around 150. And little high rpm. About 2000? Please know 
that none of the gauges work on mine. That’s the next task. So for now just 
going off sense, alarm sender(new) and I bought infrared temp gun. Fingers 
crossed it stays like that without over heating and I think I would have solved 
the problem. If so, blue smoke would be my next worry. Prob something I messed 
up during this process.

1-the coolant good stuff is that you wanna look for the pink oat premium 
coolant. Different than the winter antifreeze

2- my 3gm was adjusted to be coolant cooled. All the parts are from local shops 
unfourtanetly and doesn’t have a bleed air valve anywhere. All the hoses now 
are staying way cooler than the last few days. Even the ones after the 
thermostat, are warm not HOT.


MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz



"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid


"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali

On Aug 26, 2020, at 4:25 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
wrote:

 Mazen,

Have you checked the amount of antifreeze? Try adding a little.

When was the last time that the antifreeze system was flushed and cleaned, 
including the heat exchanger?

All the best,

Edd

———-
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
www.StarshipSailing.com
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On Aug 25, 2020, at 11:20 PM, Mazen Aziz via CnC-List  
wrote:

 Hi josh,

Yes sorry should have mentioned. Did these 2 steps as well. Thermostat is 
working fine and running the engine without the thermostat still didn’t help. 
Is that normal that the hose from the engine block to the heat exchanger is 
empty without coolant when I check it?



MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz

“To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is 
home. “Jerry Crawford

"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid

"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali


On Aug 25, 2020, at 8:12 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List  
wrote:


Sounds like you may have solved your own problem.  If the one hose leading to 
the thermostat is cold and the other is hot then you should check that the 
thermostat is working.  You can remove it and test in a pot of hot water.  Or, 
you can even remove it and reassemble the engine (temporarily) without it to 
see if that solves the problem.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 22:55 Mazen Aziz via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi everyone,

Hope everyone is doing well and staying safe. So since I got the boat(C 35) 
2 months ago, I have been doing all the typical engine Maintinance. I never 
touched an engine<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/engine.html> before 
with absolutely no experience. Got the 
boat<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/boat.html> and started to follow 
the manual from oil 
change<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/oil%20change.html>, filters, 
impellers etc. However, my 
engine<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/engine.html> now heats up and 
the idiot temp alarm<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/alarm.html> 
comes off. I have a yanmar 3gm30 that has been modified to be coolant cooled.

My engine had unknown green 
coolant<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/coolant.html>, I went ahead 
and flushed it and replaced it with the pink good stuff. While troubleshooting 
the overheat, I checked the impellers again(both new), pumps rotate with no 
problem or leak and sea 
water<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/water.html> ofF the 
exhaust<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/exhaust.html> and no leakage 
anywhere. So I think it has to be the coolant circuit. Something weird is that 
the hose from the heat 
exchanger<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/heat%20exchanger.html> to 
the pump<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/pump.html> until the 
thermostat, stays cold. But from the thermostat to the e

Re: Stus-List Overheating yanmar 3gm30

[Mazen Aziz via CnC-List]

Hi josh,

Yes sorry should have mentioned. Did these 2 steps as well. Thermostat is 
working fine and running the engine without the thermostat still didn’t help. 
Is that normal that the hose from the engine block to the heat exchanger is 
empty without coolant when I check it?



MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz

“To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is 
home. “Jerry Crawford

"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid

"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali


On Aug 25, 2020, at 8:12 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List  
wrote:


Sounds like you may have solved your own problem.  If the one hose leading to 
the thermostat is cold and the other is hot then you should check that the 
thermostat is working.  You can remove it and test in a pot of hot water.  Or, 
you can even remove it and reassemble the engine (temporarily) without it to 
see if that solves the problem.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 22:55 Mazen Aziz via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi everyone,

Hope everyone is doing well and staying safe. So since I got the boat(C 35) 
2 months ago, I have been doing all the typical engine Maintinance. I never 
touched an engine<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/engine.html> before 
with absolutely no experience. Got the 
boat<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/boat.html> and started to follow 
the manual from oil 
change<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/oil%20change.html>, filters, 
impellers etc. However, my 
engine<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/engine.html> now heats up and 
the idiot temp alarm<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/alarm.html> 
comes off. I have a yanmar 3gm30 that has been modified to be coolant cooled.

My engine had unknown green 
coolant<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/coolant.html>, I went ahead 
and flushed it and replaced it with the pink good stuff. While troubleshooting 
the overheat, I checked the impellers again(both new), pumps rotate with no 
problem or leak and sea 
water<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/water.html> ofF the 
exhaust<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/exhaust.html> and no leakage 
anywhere. So I think it has to be the coolant circuit. Something weird is that 
the hose from the heat 
exchanger<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/heat%20exchanger.html> to 
the pump<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/pump.html> until the 
thermostat, stays cold. But from the thermostat to the engine block and the 
last hose from block to the heat 
exchanger<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/heat%20exchanger.html> is 
really hot. All hoses are replaced and checked for blockage. Is that an air 
block? If so, how can I bleed the system? Couldn’t find that anywhere. Also 
after the engine cools, I opened all the hoses to check if they have flow on 
them, and they all had coolant except these last 2 from the engine block to the 
heat exchanger. Is that normal? Should I fill them up manually with coolant to 
try to get rid of any air blockage?

Last but not least, I may have trouble shoot the engine so much, and now I see 
steam that comes off or close by the 1st cylinder. Also a lot of blue smoke 
from the exhaust<https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/exhaust.html>. That 
never happened before. Did I mess up big time?

Thank you again for your time

Enterprise
C
San Francisco


MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz



"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid


"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali
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Stus-List Overheating yanmar 3gm30

[Mazen Aziz via CnC-List]

Hi everyone,

Hope everyone is doing well and staying safe. So since I got the boat(C 35) 
2 months ago, I have been doing all the typical engine Maintinance. I never 
touched an engine before 
with absolutely no experience. Got the 
boat and started to follow 
the manual from oil 
change, filters, 
impellers etc. However, my 
engine now heats up and 
the idiot temp alarm 
comes off. I have a yanmar 3gm30 that has been modified to be coolant cooled.

My engine had unknown green 
coolant, I went ahead 
and flushed it and replaced it with the pink good stuff. While troubleshooting 
the overheat, I checked the impellers again(both new), pumps rotate with no 
problem or leak and sea 
water ofF the 
exhaust and no leakage 
anywhere. So I think it has to be the coolant circuit. Something weird is that 
the hose from the heat 
exchanger to 
the pump until the 
thermostat, stays cold. But from the thermostat to the engine block and the 
last hose from block to the heat 
exchanger is 
really hot. All hoses are replaced and checked for blockage. Is that an air 
block? If so, how can I bleed the system? Couldn’t find that anywhere. Also 
after the engine cools, I opened all the hoses to check if they have flow on 
them, and they all had coolant except these last 2 from the engine block to the 
heat exchanger. Is that normal? Should I fill them up manually with coolant to 
try to get rid of any air blockage?

Last but not least, I may have trouble shoot the engine so much, and now I see 
steam that comes off or close by the 1st cylinder. Also a lot of blue smoke 
from the exhaust. That 
never happened before. Did I mess up big time?

Thank you again for your time

Enterprise
C
San Francisco


MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz



"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid


"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali
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Re: Stus-List Water pump

[Mazen Aziz via CnC-List]

Great help thanks so much guys. How do you know when it fails? Just high temp 
due to no circulation?

My 2nd project is installing a temp gauge. Currently I have a coolant temp 
gauge that is not working. Should I replace it or install an oil gauge? If so, 
where is the oil port sender will get into?

Sorry if they sound like stupid questions, new to this :d

Enterprise
35-3
San Francisco



MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz

“To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is 
home. “Jerry Crawford

"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid

"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali


On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:09 AM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List  
wrote:


I had a bearing failure on my pump, last year, and purchased a replacement from 
Marine Pumps Direct. It was a direct replacement for the Yanmar pump at about a 
third of the price of the Yanmar. . Impeller is slightly different.

https://marinepumpdirect.com/search.php?search_query=yanma=product

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 8:19 AM Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Many C yachts with Yanmar 3GM and 3HM diesels we’re actually fitted with raw 
water cooled engines, outfitted at the C factory with a Fresh Water 
conversion kit made by Sendure.  This was a cost savings  for C  Those 
systems use the Yanmar belt driven water pump as a fresh water pump mounted low 
on the engine and have an added Jabsco belt drive pump for raw water system 
mounted higher up. Both use rubber impellers (not great).  Factory Yanmar 3GMF 
and 3HMF use metal impellers on the circulation side and the pump mounts up at 
the thermostat.  The rubber impellers are not ideal as a circulation pump as 
the coolant temperatures are significantly higher than experienced on the raw 
water side.  I’ve also experienced bearing failures with the Yanmar pump which 
costs upwards of $600.
Chuck Gilchrest
Half Magic
1983 Landfall 35
Yanmar 3HM



On Aug 3, 2020, at 10:54 AM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Mazen: I don't think you have a 3gm. Jon's pictures of a 3qm are more likely 
what you have.

Alan



On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 6:29 AM JP Mail via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Upper is coolant pump. Lower is raw water pump.
Go here for a pic:
https://psyberspace.com.au/yanmar/anatomy.htm
Jon
35-3
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[Mazen Aziz via CnC-List]

Hello everyone,

Hope you had a great weekend. I was in the process of changing the impeller and 
I think I have two water pumps? I’m looking all over the manual and that top 
water pump(picture attached) doesn’t exist in the manual. My engine is 3gm. 
Anyone familiar or has similar? What’s the purpose of two water pumps?


Thank you all,

Enterprise
35-3
San Francisco



MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz

“To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is 
home. “Jerry Crawford

"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid

"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali

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Stus-List Black liquid out of exhausted

[Mazen Aziz via CnC-List]

Hi everyone,

Hope all is going well. Quick question, I just got the survey done as mentioned 
before and boat is in a great shape. One problem though is there is black 
liquid (maybe oil) that comes out of the exhaust when I accelerate and high 
rpm. Surveyor mentioned That it might be a black old rubber somewhere in the 
engine. Any suggestion where I should start to troubleshoot?

The yard master mentioned it might be the propellor size. I’m changing the 
cutlass bearing and attached is the prop pic/size. I also have a folding prop 
which is 16” and I believe that’s what came with the boat originally? Anyone 
experienced something like that before? Much appreciate your feedback

Enterprise
C 35-3
San Francisco

[cid:C01EE169-DFA7-4625-874D-A5EFA87D4B81]


MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz

“To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is 
home. “Jerry Crawford

"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid

"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali

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Re: Stus-List 35-3

[Mazen Aziz via CnC-List]

Rick,

Wow good to know and thanks for sharing all the details. I’m planning to take 
her to Hawaii eventually but that won’t happen till few years. Need to learn a 
lot first but yes agreed with the wire and rod system. Looks like I have a 
direction now and will start with the forestay.

Thanks again,



MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz

“To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is 
home. “Jerry Crawford

"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid

"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali


On Jul 25, 2020, at 7:41 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List  
wrote:


Welcome to the list. I know you will like the new boat.

When I installed roller furling on my 38, the manufacturer of the furler 
(Bamar, an Italian company) specifically recommended against installing it on a 
rod forestay. They indicated that dirt could collect in the synthetic bushings 
inside the foil, and that over time as the foil rotated the rod could get 
scored resulting in a stress riser and the potential for early rod failure. It 
seems like a pretty low probability for that type of failure, but they should 
know their product. I installed my furler with a compacted wire (also called 
Dyform wire) headstay. You may want to check with Harken to see what their 
policy is about rod Headstay with their furlers.

Subsequent to installation of the furler, about 9 years ago, I had a D2 shroud 
on the 38 part during a somewhat rough and windy passage across Pamlico Sound. 
Sounded like a 22 caliber rifle going off, and the bottom of the windward D2 
was waving in the wind. Made me question the integrity of the rest of the rod 
rigging, which was about 34 years old at the time.

Navtec indicated that a dye inspection of the rigging was not sufficient 
(perhaps just in my care). The cost to remove the rigging and ship it to Navtec 
for x-ray inspection was in the neighborhood of $3500. If they could rehead and 
reuse it, the cost of reheading would have been extra.

My rigger and I decided to rerig the boat using Dyform wire for the shrouds, 
backstay, and babystay. The wire is a few thousandths larger in diameter than 
the rod replaced (slightly more windage), a few pounds heavier than the rod 
replaced (so slightly more weight aloft, which might be a consideration of you 
are a serious racer), but actually has a slightly higher break strength than 
the rod. Swage fittings for Dyform wire that replace the ends of the rod and 
allowed reuse of turnbuckles, spreader ends, and the OEM mast attachments for 
the shrouds are easily obtainable. We elected to use Norseman fittings on the 
bottom of wire shrouds to simplify the installation.

For the sailing that I do – cruising and the occasional charity regatta – I’m 
very happy with the rerigging. And one of the added benefits was that 
completely replacing the rod with Dyform wire cost only slightly more than what 
having the old rod inspected by Navtec was going to cost.

Of course, YMMV, but replacing old rod with new wire is pretty doable.


Rick Brass
Imzadi  C 38 mk2 #47
la Belle Aurore  C 25 mk1 #225
Washington, NC





From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Mazen Aziz 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 3:15 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Mazen Aziz 
Subject: Stus-List 35-3

Hi all,

New 35-3 enterprise owner Here in the Bay Area. Love the boat and want to take 
your opinions here. Boat has original standing riggings and currently going 
thru changing halyards and standing riggings. Few questions,

1- planning to change my forestay twinstay rod with wire system harken furler. 
Is this a good move?
2- back stay is a rod hydrolic system and planning to change the system with a 
wire system too, any recommendations on what to go with?
3- lastly and most important, all the standing riggings are rod and heard it’s 
very challengy to change it to wire. Should I keep it a rod system? Is it smart 
to go half wire for the front/back stay and half rod for the standing riggings?

Appreciate your time here in advance and would love to meet local C sailors 
too,



MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz


“To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is 
home. “Jerry Crawford


"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid

"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali

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Re: Stus-List 35-3

[Mazen Aziz via CnC-List]

Very appreciate your recommendations Alan and Dennis. Can’t wait to take her 
sailing.

Ian, I’m in oyster point marina for now by the airport till I move her to 
clippers by you next month. Would you like to go sailing sometime? Mine is 
getting hull out on Monday for the survey and bottom paint but should be back 
in about 10 days.

Mazen Aziz
C enterprise
San Francisco



MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz



"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid


"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali

On Jul 24, 2020, at 12:33 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
wrote:


OK to change the fore stay to wire when installing a Harken furler.  I removed 
a Hood Seafoil (twin slot rod) from my boat in 1999 and replaced it with a 
Harken furler and wire forestay.  No issues.

Re-head the rest of the rod rigging and keep it rod.  Rod rigging generally 
fails at the head.  The rod is most likely still OK.  The rod can be coiled to 
no LESS than 200 times rod diameter and shipped for re-heading.

--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 2:15 PM Mazen Aziz via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi all,

New 35-3 enterprise owner Here in the Bay Area. Love the boat and want to take 
your opinions here. Boat has original standing riggings and currently going 
thru changing halyards and standing riggings. Few questions,

1- planning to change my forestay twinstay rod with wire system harken furler. 
Is this a good move?
2- back stay is a rod hydrolic system and planning to change the system with a 
wire system too, any recommendations on what to go with?
3- lastly and most important, all the standing riggings are rod and heard it’s 
very challengy to change it to wire. Should I keep it a rod system? Is it smart 
to go half wire for the front/back stay and half rod for the standing riggings?

Appreciate your time here in advance and would love to meet local C sailors 
too,



MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz

“To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is 
home. “Jerry Crawford

"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid

"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali

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Stus-List 35-3

[Mazen Aziz via CnC-List]

Hi all,

New 35-3 enterprise owner Here in the Bay Area. Love the boat and want to take 
your opinions here. Boat has original standing riggings and currently going 
thru changing halyards and standing riggings. Few questions,

1- planning to change my forestay twinstay rod with wire system harken furler. 
Is this a good move?
2- back stay is a rod hydrolic system and planning to change the system with a 
wire system too, any recommendations on what to go with?
3- lastly and most important, all the standing riggings are rod and heard it’s 
very challengy to change it to wire. Should I keep it a rod system? Is it smart 
to go half wire for the front/back stay and half rod for the standing riggings?

Appreciate your time here in advance and would love to meet local C sailors 
too,



MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz

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Re: Stus-List Bay Area sailing items

[Mazen Aziz via CnC-List]

Hi Joel, are you in the Bay Area? If so would you like to stop by and check 
what I have? I’m in oyster point marina



MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz

“To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is 
home. “Jerry Crawford

"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid

"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali


On Jul 22, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
 wrote:


I’ll need new sails mine are 25 years old

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:59 PM Mazen Aziz via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi all,

In the Bay Area and selling few items of anyone is interested. Here is the ad, 
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bpo/d/south-san-francisco-sails-spinnaker/7160697684.html

Thanks,



MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz

“To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is 
home. “Jerry Crawford

"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid

"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali

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Stus-List Bay Area sailing items

[Mazen Aziz via CnC-List]

Hi all,

In the Bay Area and selling few items of anyone is interested. Here is the ad, 
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bpo/d/south-san-francisco-sails-spinnaker/7160697684.html

Thanks,



MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz

“To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is 
home. “Jerry Crawford

"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid

"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali

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Re: Stus-List Anyone have an alcohol stove oven combo they’d part with?

[Mazen Aziz via CnC-List]

Hi all,

Newly C 1985 owner here. Thankfully someone introduced me to this emailing 
list and can be excited enough. I’m selling a lot of sails if someone is 
interested. I’m in San Francisco Bay Area. I have a lot of Jibs, Genoa’s, and 
spinnakers. Also a spinnaker pole. You can also text at 618-521-1188

On the other hand, Quick question, I heard the C original standing riggings 
specifically the forestay, doesn’t have a steel rod in it. Is that really true?


MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz



"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid


"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali

On Jul 17, 2020, at 4:18 PM, James Hesketh via CnC-List  
wrote:




 Laserandy  wrote:
We are working on setting up our newly acquired 32 for cruising and want to get 
an oven (we have the two burner Origo stove, but want the oven as well) and 
don’t particularly want to install propane.

Any chance anyone here has a stove oven combo they’d be willing to part with?

I have one that came out of a mid-'80s Morgan OI I believe.

It's been in storage for a couple decades now. I'll take a look and see what 
shape it's in; have the fuel tank also.

Jim Hesketh
C 26 Whisper
Miami, FL


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