Re: Stus-List Mugs

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How much was shipping I’m interested

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> On Dec 12, 2018, at 1:42 PM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List 
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> I have 10 new old stock original C coffee mugs and a license plate frame 
> boxed up and ready to be shipped.  They had been going to a list member in 
> Canada but shipping proved to be too expensive.  Any interest?
> 
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Re: Stus-List Soda blasting bottoms

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Had our hull sofa blasted 4 years ago took the guy a hour roughly and he 
changed 700 con to do the job no damage done to the gel coat 

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> On Aug 8, 2018, at 9:32 AM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
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> I need to have several/many coats of bottom paint removed (its starting to 
> seriously flake off) and am considering soda blasting as both faster and 
> possibly cheaper than the 60 hours of labor that the 
> yard estimates it would take to sand it off.(~$5000!).
>  
> Opinions and experiences of the list are welcome before I proceed with it (or 
> stay with the sanding method).
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> Thanks,
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Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions

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I sail in Ontario on Lake Simcoe and go to Woodbridge to get them refilled

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> On Jun 13, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Raymond Macklin via CnC-List 
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> Thanks everyone for the information.  I have documented the details of what 
> everyone has said.  One final question, it might be dumb but, where do I 
> light the stove and how.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ray
> LakeHouse
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>>1.  Alternator Charging both banks? (Francois Rivard)
>>2. Re:  CNG Gas Stove Instructions (damian.gre...@yahoo.com)
>>3.  C 33mk1 - Merlin (Joe Jonika)
>>4. Re:  CNG Gas Stove Instructions (Della Barba, Joe)
>>5. Re:  CNG Gas Stove Instructions (Richard Gonesailing)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 23:10:35 -0400
>> From: Francois Rivard 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List Alternator Charging both banks?
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>> Thanks guys,
>> 
>> I'll double check the wiring next time.   I do have 2 banks consisting  of
>> 3 batteries: 1 smaller unit (Still "Marine Deep cycle" ) as a starting
>> battery and 2 larger ones connected in parallel as house.
>> 
>> I also have a "smart" Xantrex Truecharge2 charger.  Since we sometimes
>> can't make it to the boat for several weeks at a time, especially in the
>> winter (We sail 12 months a year) I pretty much always leave the charger on
>> when the boat is at the dock to make sure the batteries stay topped-off.
>> 
>> Outside of replacing the house batteries 2 years ago and the starting
>> battery this year (They're cheapo Walmart batteries and were 5-7 years old)
>> Everything was working perfect until a last week, now the the charger is
>> throwing an error / might be fried so I'm looking at this charging thing in
>> greater details.
>> 
>> I'll let you guys know what I find out about the charger / what I'll do
>> about it.
>> 
>> Thanks again.
>> 
>> -Francois Rivard
>> 1990 34+ Take Five
>> Lake Lanier, GA
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>> From: "damian.gre...@yahoo.com" 
>> To: Ray Macklin via CnC-List 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions
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>>  Ray,
>> There is not much to this. Others may elaborate, but here's my take:
>> Your primary concern should be to check for leaks - most likely around the 
>> regulator. Check along the length of the line first for any obvious damage 
>> or kinks. Check the flex lines. Maybe you have a separate shutoff valve 
>> inside the boat, or a solenoid-actuated shutoff - likely not with an older 
>> CNG setup. With the stove off, open the tank-top valve to pressurise the 
>> line. Use soapy water on the fittings and look for bubbles. When you first 
>> try to light the stove, it'll take a while as you have to first bleed the 
>> air from the line. Never leave the stove unattended, and shut off at the 
>> cylinder when not in use.
>> CNG is safer than propane, but with some major downsides. The key difference 
>> between CNG and LPG is that you have compressed gas, not liquid - so a LOT 
>> LESS fuel.?With CNG 

Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions

[Richard Gonesailing via CnC-List]

Just to say we have CNG on board our 29 for the last 20 years and find that 
with 2 tanks and the boat is used for 4 months every weekend and that’s using 
the oven and the BBQ we usually go through a tank and a half.  The tanks are 
the size of dive tanks and cost 40 bucks to fill both never mind the safety of 
the gas rising versus settling make sure you install a xintex control unit with 
a solenoid shut off valve.  Also the regulator for the tanks will have a vent 
on it make sure you connect a hose on it to vent fitting on the side of the 
hull 

Just my 2 cents

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> On Jun 13, 2018, at 4:04 AM, damian.greene--- via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
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> Ray,
> 
> There is not much to this. Others may elaborate, but here's my take:
> 
> Your primary concern should be to check for leaks - most likely around the 
> regulator. Check along the length of the line first for any obvious damage or 
> kinks. Check the flex lines. Maybe you have a separate shutoff valve inside 
> the boat, or a solenoid-actuated shutoff - likely not with an older CNG 
> setup. With the stove off, open the tank-top valve to pressurise the line. 
> Use soapy water on the fittings and look for bubbles. When you first try to 
> light the stove, it'll take a while as you have to first bleed the air from 
> the line. Never leave the stove unattended, and shut off at the cylinder when 
> not in use.
> 
> CNG is safer than propane, but with some major downsides. The key difference 
> between CNG and LPG is that you have compressed gas, not liquid - so a LOT 
> LESS fuel. With CNG you have a bottle like a scuba tank, and those tanks are 
> heavy!  They are also a pain to find a place to swap out or fill. Expect to 
> use your tank up pretty quickly. You may have a pressure gauge on your 
> regulator - you'll see it drop pretty soon with use.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Damian
> 
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> On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 11:47:42 PM GMT+1, Ray Macklin via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
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> 
> Hello
> I have a 1985 C 33 that has a CNG gas stove  I had the tank refilled but 
> since I bought the boat I was to afraid to try it without instructions. I 
> would hate to Go kaboom. Does anyone have instructions or a video of how to 
> use it?  Then I could eat breakfast on the boat. 
> 
> Hopeful 
> Ray
> LakeHouse 
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Re: Stus-List 1973 custom C 43' - hull/deck joint (toe rail replacement?)

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Try Klacko spars they were the fabricators for C 
http://www.klackospars.com/

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> On Nov 13, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Violeta Ivanova via CnC-List 
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> Thanks Dave. I hope Martin responds, he will be a great contact indeed. 
> 
> Our toe rail is symmetric, T-shaped, with screws on both sides of the 
> vertical part. Here are some photos:
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/483a7kvckwx0ys5/AACbT_1GZsShvn8Xr7fWiHtRa?dl=0
> 
> We haven't found an exact match yet, so that's another task at hand. Some of 
> the photos include a ruler for scale (both cm and in), 
> 
> Also, I have been reading online about the C designs in the 1970s. I can't 
> find much about the limited edition 43', but here is what I am finding about 
> the hull to deck joint on other C designs from the 1970s: 
> 
> - the deck and hull are attached via an internal flange, which is bolted -- 
> is that typical?
> - the joint is also chemically bonded -- how does that work? is it common on 
> C? 
> - the toe rail is attached with screws (or bolts?) and provides additional 
> stiffness to the joint
> 
> Does this sound right? Is it typical for C construction at the time, or 
> could our hull/deck joint be very different?
> 
> What might happen when we remove the toe rail? 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Violeta
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 6:16 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Violeta,
>> 
>> There’s a gentleman on the list by the name of Martin DeYoung who owns a C 
>> 43. He has been working deck work on his boat and may be an informative 
>> source as regards your model. He hasn’t posted in some time but perhaps he 
>> may respond.
>> 
>> Perhaps if you could identify the type of toerail that your boat has it 
>> would help. You may find that many listers here have some experience. FWIW, 
>> a good surveyor should be able to tell you what you are up against. I have 
>> done a  complete deck lift and rebed on a Islander 37 with a teak toerail 
>> and one of my good friends has replaced the teak toerail with an aluminum 
>> toerail on his Cal 40. Non-trivial efforts in both cases.
>> 
>> Good luck with your task.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Dave Godwin
>> 1982 C 37 - Ronin
>> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
>> Ronin’s Overdue Refit
>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2016, 
>>> at 2:19 PM, Violeta Ivanova via CnC-List  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Greetings all. 
>>> 
>>> Might someone here help with questions about the custom C 43' from 1973? 
>>> This was a limited edition and I think only fourteen boats were ever built. 
>>> We would like to replace the toe rail on our boat, but are unsure how that 
>>> might affect the hull/deck joint. 
>>> 
>>> Some specific questions:
>>> 
>>> 1 - What is the structure of the hull/deck joint on the 1973 C 43'? 
>>> 2 - How is the toe rail integrated with the hull/deck joint?
>>> 3 - What happens if we remove the toe rail (or part of it)? 
>>> 
>>> Good advice will be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Violeta
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

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That's not a Wilcox it's a Jabsco

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> On May 31, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Eugene Fodor via CnC-List 
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> Trying to identify the correct toilet repair kit for my marine head on my C 
> 29 Mark II 1984/85. It is clearly a Wilcox Crittenden. The pump is leaking 
> fresh water out of the top when pumping and when heeled over there is 
> significant backflow from the tank. :-( I'm pretty sure the joker valve is 
> shot. Here's some pictures of the pump and head:
> 
> https://goo.gl/photos/VrEo64B65gto2wU19
> 
> The following kit looks like it's the right one.
> 
> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/wilcox-crittenden--headmate-maintenance-kit--135301
> 
> Has anyone else had experience repairing these? Does that look like the right 
> kit?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gene Fodor
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Me too I think somebody got in the back door

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