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[jim aridas via CnC-List]

Two points to make.
Winch drum surface does wear out as in gets smooth and looses it's grip on the 
line causing the line to slip.
Second, winch size for racing a 34. I campaigned a 34 for 12 yrs. Put Lewmar 
44s on when I 1st got the boat. Also make sure you have good handles and big 
enough diameter sheets.
Jim
Former C&C 34 1982


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From: Peter McMinn via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 11:46:05 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Peter McMinn 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winch Size for C&C34

Over the winter, I rebuilt the Barient 2-sp 28s that were original on my ‘85 
37. Only had to replace the springs. Pawls appeared to have been replaced a few 
years ago but showed minimal wear; the gears and bearings were well greased by 
previous owners and in good shape. I’d say maintenance matters if the winch is 
serving your needs. Definitely worth a rebuild, considering the replacement 
cost.

On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 5:13 PM cenelson--- via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
You can get a winch service kit from Lewmar/Defender/West Marine with grease, 
pawls, springs, etc for a few bucks.

Clean them up, replace any bad springs/pawls, light oil on the pawls, grease 
(from kit) on spindles/teeth (?), reassemble and you will be likely as good as 
new. There are Lewmar assembly diagrams on-line but if you are careful not to 
lose any parts AND take one winch apart at a time so the other is there for a 
guide, and you should be fine. Its one of those dirty jobs but simple enough to 
do. Once you have done one, the next is much faster plus you don't need any 
special tools.

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom

On Tuesday, September 12, 2023, 07:20:44 PM EDT, Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Mike and others who have provided valuable input,

This information on electric is very useful.  I wasn't intending to purchase 
electric in any case due to cost.

I went to boat this afternoon.  Ashamed to say I did not even know what size 
the existing winches are.  They are Lewmar/England 42ST, likely original to 
boat, therefore 42 years old.  From what I am hearing from everyone, a Lewmar 
42ST should be adequate for a C&C34.  But man, even in 12 knts wind it takes 
the full strength of two crew to get the last 2 feet in.  I was sensing that 
the winch handle was about to break.

After reading more this afternoon, I am sure the winches are way past due for 
servicing.  Lewmar recommends 2 to 3 times a season!  This may be part, if not 
all, of the problem.  I suspect the winches were disassembled and greased about 
10 to 12 years ago. Before that, who knows.

Is a set of 42 year old winches worth disassembling, cleaning, greasing, and 
reassembling?  Will this result in a significant improvement?  What parts of 
the winch typically need to be replaced and can those Lewmar parts be obtained 
for such an old winch?

Thanks again for all the very helpful advice on winch sizes.

Jeff Laman
1981 C&C34 Harmony
Ludington, MI


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Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 2:43 PM
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Persistence came to us with Electric Lewmar 43ST winches for the primaries.  
There were no secondaries.  For cruising ease the primaries had been located 
where secondaries normally would be and the mounting locations for the original 
primaries were faired and painted over.  The second set of manual Lewmar 43ST 
winches were mounted on the cabin top for use as halyard winches.  THIS WAS WAY 
OVERKILL!



ST43 as halyard winches way larger than necessary.  Jib trimmers facing 
backward to trim genoa was awkward to say the least.  So we moved the cabin top 
Lewmar 43ST back to the original primary location and replaced cabin top 
halyard winches with Lewmar 30ST (Ocean series I believe)



This still left us with electric Lewmar 43 ST.  First of all an electric winch 
can be nasty.  An inexperienced trimmer can damage the headsail using one.  We 
always had the switches turned off and used as a manual winch.  Secondly these 
were AWFUL to maintain.  To service the winches the motor has to be dropped 
from beneath before the drums can come off to clean and lubricate the gears, 
pawls, etc …  Due to this and due to the lack of accessibility from beneath to 
do this these winches were rarely serviced and never properly.  When running 
the spinnaker on these secondaries they were stiff and made spin handling more 
problematic than it should be (due to the lack of east servicing).



In the end we traded these to someone with a pilothouse 44 foot boat for a set 
of new Lewmar 40 ST that are far superior for our purposes.  On top of the ease 
of servicing and better sizing for the boat removing the motors took a

Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

Sad to hear about Guido. He made a custom goose neck and a few other fittings 
for me years ago when refitting a pearson 30. Then many blocks and a boom vang 
for my 34 C&C. I would always chat with him at the boat shows. Very interesting 
guy. Built tank parts for Desert Storm operations.
8 Bells for Guido.
Jim Aridas
Formerly Galaxy 34'

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From: Graham Collins via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 6:56:31 PM
To: David Risch via CnC-List 
Cc: Graham Collins 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Bow Repair


I believe Guido has passed on recently (Jan 2021, Covid-19) but hopefully his 
spirit lives on at Gauhauer Marine.

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2021-09-25 5:59 p.m., David Risch via CnC-List wrote:
I was gonna say what Nathan said...never mind.

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Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 4:01:52 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

If you can't find a local shop, send the thing to Guido at Garhauer Marine.  He 
will duplicate it.  Does excellent work.
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Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA



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Stus-List Re: C&C 33,155%

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

The luff is 43 ft 4 in. And that is laying on the ground so tension the sale on 
a head stay it's probably at least another inch or so longer

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Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 3:06:01 PM
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Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 33,155%

A 33-2 has a taller hoist.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 3:02:42 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bob Mann 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 33,155%

If it's too tall in the hoist, wouldn't it also be too large for a 33?  Actual 
luff length would be better to post.

Bob
On 06/15/2021 2:54 PM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
 wrote:



HI Jim



Tried attaching tack to deck and not the furler? – should fit if a tad short



John Read



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Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 12:07 PM
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Cc: Della Barba, Joe; jim aridas
Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 33,155%



Any 33 owners looking for a laminate 155%. Not bad shape, light to med air, no 
patches. Thought it would fit my 34 picked it up a few years ago. Too tall in 
the hoist.

Have pics if interested.

Make a good beer can racer.

Message me if interested.

Thinking $300 plus shipping would be fair.

Located central nj

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Stus-List Re: C&C 33,155%

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A 33-2 has a taller hoist.

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Cc: Bob Mann 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 33,155%

If it's too tall in the hoist, wouldn't it also be too large for a 33?  Actual 
luff length would be better to post.

Bob
On 06/15/2021 2:54 PM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
 wrote:



HI Jim



Tried attaching tack to deck and not the furler? – should fit if a tad short



John Read



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Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 12:07 PM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Della Barba, Joe; jim aridas
Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 33,155%



Any 33 owners looking for a laminate 155%. Not bad shape, light to med air, no 
patches. Thought it would fit my 34 picked it up a few years ago. Too tall in 
the hoist.

Have pics if interested.

Make a good beer can racer.

Message me if interested.

Thinking $300 plus shipping would be fair.

Located central nj

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Stus-List Re: C&C 33,155%

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

Any 33 owners looking for a laminate 155%. Not bad shape, light to med air, no 
patches. Thought it would fit my 34 picked it up a few years ago. Too tall in 
the hoist.
Have pics if interested.
Make a good beer can racer.
Message me if interested.
Thinking $300 plus shipping would be fair.
Located central nj
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Coal tar bottom paint removal?

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

Just an aside on the true coal tar epoxy, like what rustolem co sells. My 82' 
C&C 34 had a cast iron centerboard. wire wheeled the board, painted 2 coats of 
coal tar and after 12 yrs of owning the boat there was no sign of rust bleeding 
thru. Awesome stuff for protecting steel in salt water !
Jim Aridas
Previously Galaxy 34' 1982 K/CB


From: Dave via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 2:08 PM
To: Matt Janssen ; Stus-List 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe ; Dave 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Coal tar bottom paint removal?


Matt – thanks for the detail, very very much appreciated. Yes likely VC tar.   
My Dutch/Scottish heart also warms to the reuse of a disposable brush, gripped 
in a very tight fist.   😉



Dave



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From: Matt Janssen
Sent: April 5, 2021 11:03 AM
To: Stus-List; Dave S
Cc: Della Barba, Joe
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Coal tar bottom paint removal?



Dave,



Is it possible you are trying to remove VC Tar or similar?



Coal tar epoxy is the corrosion protection system we typically spec for steel 
sheets in a marine environment. Bluewater makes a bottom barrier coat for 
boats, but I suspect it's for commercial use on steel hull barges etc.



If you're dealing with VC Tar as Joe and others have suggested, then misery 
loves company. I am the final stretch of the same project.



For me the tar was softer, it smelled terrible and was still somewhat tacky in 
warm temps. After much trial and error I settled on two techniques that worked 
for me.

  1.  Chemical stripping - I used Citristrip and a glass cleaner 

 (4-inch wide razor blade) in lieu of a putty knife. With the razor blade (lots 
of replacement blades), and a little practice, i was able to peel off two or 
three layers of paint at a time and leave a smooth fair surface. On the tar, i 
was able to get between the tar and gel coat without gouging the hull. My boat 
was raced by the original owner and had a decent bottom, but had suffered from 
paint build up. While this sounds tedious, it minimized the fairing and 
longboarding. The rub is the stripper needs the temps to be close to 60-F 
(15-C) to work and needs to sit for at least an hour or two. If you're in 
direct sunlight or windy, you'll want to cover the stripper with plastic. You 
want to avoid letting it dry out. (Another boat in the yard didn't use plastic, 
but just mist the gel with a water bottle to keep it from drying out.) With the 
citristrip, i was able to apply it and leave it overnight covered with plastic 
and then come back to scrape it the next day. It seemed to work up to about 
3-layers of paint.
  2.  Mechanical Removal - Unfortunately, I counted 12 separate colors of 
bottom paint before getting to the tar, i'm located in the NE and with a hard 
launch date, i had to use a mix of chemical and mechanical removal. The only 
system that worked for me without destroying the hull shape was a 6-inch random 
orbital sander using 80-grit Mirka Abranet pads. The Mirka are a mesh pad and 
do not clog with the tar as long as your dust collection system is decent. I 
used a home depot dust stopper 

  separator before the shop vac. It is stupid expensive for what it is... but 
it really works and saves your shop vac filters. I could get 10 to 15 minutes 
out of the Mirka pads. I've gone through close to 30-pads in the project.



I tried using traditional 36-grit pads but they were dulled after about 
5-minutes. Also tried the Bahco carbide scrapers. Those worked well for level 
surfaces (e.g the rudder that you drop and put on saw horses) but it was tough 
sledding to work on your back under the hull. If you do go that route, bevel 
the edges of the blades and you won't gouge the hull.



If you're still here, a few other lessons I learned the hard way.



Managing heat on the pads was important. The Mirka pads do not insulate the 
hooks from heat. So you'll absolutely need to use pad protectors. If you don't, 
you'll melt the hooks on your sander and your disks will be flying off the 
sander by lunch on the first day. I lost a few days waiting for new parts when 
this happened to me... I also found lighter pressure on the sander worked 
better. Letting the pad spin faster allowed it to chew more of the material 
away. Easier on the shoulders too.



Switching back to the stripper, I applied with a chip brush. Someone in the 
yard pointed out that i should only be brushing in one direction. Most have a 
wax in them that helps prevent drying out. Applying in one direction certainly 
helped increase the working time of the gel. Being dutch, i was

Re: Stus-List Sunglasses favorites

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

Dennis,
Are you getting multifocal lens or distance only? If you will still need 
readers then MauiJim make great sunglasses with reader lenses in the bottom.
On year 4 with artificial lens in one eye.
Jim

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CnC-List 
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 5:03:30 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Sunglasses favorites

After wearing prescription glasses since age 3, I'm getting lens implants and 
will be able to toss Rx glasses.  I can now buy off the shelf sunglasses.  Wow!

What are your favorites for sailing?  For clarification, lens specifics and 
perceived efficiency as well as brand and model information will be helpful to 
me and perhaps to others but my specific purchase will most likely be a pair 
with nose pads as the bridge of my nose is very narrow.  The wide bridge 
plastic frames just don't work for me.
--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List CnC34-Anything to pay attention to?

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

Late to the dance but Had mine for 11 years was a great boat. Won lots of races 
over the years.
Gets a little scary with the kite up in over 15.
Btw still have 2 almost new Jibs for sale from my 82' 34
Both north, made for harken roller furler 155% racing mylar kevlar and a 135% 
Norlam
contact me off line
Jim
previous Galaxy 34'
current J80 Stinger


From: CnC-List  on behalf of Nathan Post via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 12:09 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Nathan Post 
Subject: Re: Stus-List CnC34-Anything to pay attention to?

I second Mikes take.  My 34 has been a great relatively inexpensive cruising 
boat so far and I love having a boat that moves in light wind. We sail short 
handed too and don’t race so I tend to reef early but she will handle a blow 
just fine and with the full rig you can sail to windward pretty well (actually 
on all points) under headsail only when it is blowing.
It does have plenty of old boat issues and needs work and TLC but if you have 
fun with that it isn’t too bad.

Yes soft spots in the deck happen (Sailed with them for two years and just 
repaired this spring) and some leaks around the bulkhead connections but 
overall my impression is that it is a good quality production boat with the 
right compromise between interior and cockpit space and relatively underpriced 
compared to similar size boats.  Like Mike, my wife got on the 34 and despite 
the dirt and mildew cause it had been sitting for a few years she said this is 
the one.  We got her cleaned up and are improving things each year.  One 
drawback for cruising is no bow roller for the anchor.

Nathan Post
S/V Wisper
1981 C&C 34 CB
Lynn, MA

On Jun 14, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Great story

On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 9:41 AM Headgorilla via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I have owned and sailed my 1978 34' for the past 5 seasons and she was not what 
I was looking for originally, I was looking at the 35's. Skywalker was a bit 
unique in that she was built for a fellow who raced her in the UK so she is a 
bit of a "winch farm" as I have had some admirers refer to her as :).

She sails like a dream, great in the light wind, decent in the middle and very 
stable in heavy (I have found) as I have been caught in some ugly wind here and 
there in the Northeast. mine has a tiller (1st owners choice) so I originally 
was disappointed as I wanted to have a "big wheel" :), however very soon after 
sailing her I found that as big as she is, even with my 150% up she sails like 
a Sunfish and I tack as fast. I have only launched the symmetrical spinnaker 
once in light wind 5-8 and she was fabulous, but since it is just my wife and 
I, I have no desire to use it in anything more than that

Hull is very solid, I have a soft spot or two in the decks and I fix them as I 
go along but it comes with the age, besides its just my wife and I and she is 
only 108lbs so its not like I have a crew of guys stomping around up there, we 
have no cabin leaks although the toe-rail had some but thanks to Capt Tolley's 
Creeping Crack cure (thanks Dennis) they no longer are a problem.

We have the original A4 gas engine which was redone by Moyer Marine in 2009, I 
find the boat sails so well I do not use it too much and we do a fair amount of 
distance in our boat. To be honest I prefer the gas engine as I do not care for 
the diesel smell or exhaust. When shopping boats my wife turned her nose up at 
everything 35's, Bristols, Cats, etc...….we saw our 34' on a rainy cold day in 
October, it was on the end of a dock blowing 25mph and we had to jump just to 
get on her.we were on her 5 minutes and my wife said "buy her".

I think the hardest part of my ownership of my 34' is telling my wife its time 
to go home.

Buy the 34 and sail, just sail

Mike Dolan
1978 34' C&C Skywalker
Southold, NY



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[jim aridas via CnC-List]

Chiming in late on this and probably a mute point at this time.
But update in NJ
I am the commodore of Manasquan River YC in Brielle and we have shut down all 
operations.
Events, our bar, sailing, club rentals. Realistically might be May or later.
Metedeconk River YC in Brick NJ  all operations shut down till further notice.
Just spoke with the General Manager at Bay Head YC and they are hoping to open 
mid May.
their restaurant is starting a take out program.
Lets all hope for a quick recovery when this runs its course.
Godspeed everyone.
Jim Aridas
Brielle, NJ
Formally Galaxy, 34' C&C


From: CnC-List  on behalf of Mike Taylor via 
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Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2020 5:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Mike Taylor 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Coronavirus & Caution - The New C&C

Everything at our club is cancelled until May 2nd.  Oh wait we shut down just 
after haul-out in Oct 😜

Mike

On Mar 14, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List  
wrote:


Our club just closed the bar and clubhouse, and Sunday races are cancelled for 
the next 3 weekends. Other local clubs are revoking reciprocals also, but I 
haven't heard about regattas being cancelled yet. I suspect they will be.

--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 5:48 AM Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Listers,

I’m curious to know what your local clubs are doing in response to the COVID-19 
pandemic. We have a regatta scheduled for April 4 and we are already discussing 
cancelling the skippers meeting and post-race festivities - perhaps cancelling 
the event altogether.

What are you seeing in your areas?

Hope everyone on the list remains safe.

All the best,

Edd

———-
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
C&C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
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Re: Stus-List New Sails...

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

I had very good luck with a Nordac main from North on my 34. After 8 years 
still had lots of life left in
it and held shape. Perhaps the cloth is different now?
Speaking of sails I still have 2 really nice jibs from my 1982 C&C 34. Went 
on a harken roller. made for the boat
by North Sails
135% mylar/kevlar with taffata sharkskin on both sides. used maybe 5 times.
155% mylar/kevlar with taffata on one side. in very good shape.
contact me off line if interested jarid...@msn.com
Jim
former "Galaxy" 34' k/cb
Brielle, NJ

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Does anyone have any experience with Peak Sails in Fla.
Pricing very good on spinnakers.
Jim
Previously Galaxy 34'

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Re: Stus-List Sad day, APS no longer carrying rope or hardware!

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

Seemed like a weird business decision? But maybe much better markup in clothing 
and accessories.
Plus can hire less knowledgeable staff. Still sad to see the great resource go.
Previous -Galaxy 1982 34 c/B
Current J80
Jim Aridas Brielle NJ

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Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 11:15:22 AM
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sad day, APS no longer carrying rope or hardware!

Fawcetts is my go-to place for everything except line.  If you need an odd 
fastener, they will have it!  (Recently needed a 12 inch 3/8 stainless machine 
screw and it was in stock!)  Hopefully they will expand their offerings.  
Bacon's has a good selection of NER and Marlow, and focuses on the less 
expensive lines.

There are a number of lines with cheaper dyneema cores that have less stretch 
than poly, such as Marlow D2 Club.  Much cheaper than D2 Racer and certainly 
more than adequate for sheets.  MLX3 is a dyneema blended core that is nice too.

Joel

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 10:34 AM Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I’m discouraged that APS is no longer an outlet for sailboat hardware and 
rigging.  They had a very knowledgeable staff and were a great resource for 
most things relating to sailboat racing.  They were also one of the last 
bastions of supply for one design parts, especially smaller keelboat classes 
such as Etchells, J-24, J-80, and Sonars.  Someone may eventually come along 
and fill the gaps in the supply chain, but how and when is TBD.
I will say that there’s no shortage of places to buy line and would encourage 
former APS customers to look at Defender,  R&W Rope,  Landfall Navigation, or 
heaven forbid, your local rigger to supply you with the ropes you need for your 
C&C.  I think too many folks gravitate towards the “cheapest” option for buying 
cordage rather than the “best” option, all of which includes getting the right 
rope for the application rather than what’s on sale.  And as Josh discovered, 
the “sale price” of 20% off doesn’t amount to much if the regular price is 
already 20-25% higher than the local sailboat rigger would sell it to you.
I’ll miss making my annual pilgrimage to APS during the Annapolis Boat Show as 
I always enjoyed checking out the wide selection of cordage and hardware on 
hand at the store.  I do think its cool that Fawcetts is stepping up to service 
the performance sailors in Nap Town.  They’ve always been a high quality outlet 
for marine goods, but never much on servicing the racers in the past.
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 Landfall
Padanaram, MA
From: CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> On Behalf 
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Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 2:48 PM
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Cc: Josh Muckley mailto:muckl...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Sad day, APS no longer carrying rope or hardware!

So I'm in the market for new jib sheets and my goto Annapolis Performance 
Sailing at APDLTD.COM keeps throwing 404 errors.  I call 
them up a describe the problem hoping that they can simply make the order over 
the phone.  The associate tells me that they no longer carry cordage of any 
type!  She goes on to tell me that they also no longer sell ANY hardware and no 
longer perform rigging services!  I ask, what do you carry? and she says, 
apparel/accessories only.  I was completely dumbfounded since they had 
seemingly had such a large presence in the sailing community, both locally and 
on the internet.  I expressed my disappointment and wished them luck with the 
new business model.

Upon hanging up, I called Fawcett's which has a very limited internet presence 
but phenomenal staff and selection.  Joe was extremely helpful, he ordered a 
spool of cordage just for me, and had the 100' I needed cut, whipped and 
shipped at a better price than that of West Marine Pro (which gave ~20% 
discount).  The price comparison was close and I will have to wait 2 weeks for 
them to get the spool but I'm not in a big rush and keeping the local business 
is valuable to me.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
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Re: Stus-List Block Island's Great Salt Pond - Town Mooring or Dock Reservation?

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

Was at Champlain's yesterday drinking mudslides. Amazing  how empty considering 
its race week.
Jim Aridas
Former Galaxy 34

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On Jun 27, 2019 11:32 AM, David Risch via CnC-List  
wrote:
PluS 20!

From: CnC-List  on behalf of Edd Schillay via 
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Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:55:27 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Edd Schillay
Subject: Re: Stus-List Block Island's Great Salt Pond - Town Mooring or Dock 
Reservation?

If you’re going to do Mystic, which I also recommend, forget Brewers and stay 
in the Mystic Seaport. It’s a short walk into town, your boat is on display in 
the museum, and you have the whole place to yourself at night. Our first C&C 
rendezvous was there and it was a blast.

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY
Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log










On Jun 27, 2019, at 10:50 AM, damian.greene--- via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

One final recommendation: Brewer's in Mystic. It is a fun sail inside Fisher's 
Island, and then up the channel past Noank to Mystic. Do not be tempted to cut 
the dog-leg at Noank entrance.

The Brewer yard has BBQs, pool, and good showers, and then an easy dinghy ride 
up the river to the Mystic town dock and Mystic Seaport. Plenty of restaurants, 
bars, etc.

Mystic is an easy sail to Newport or Block.

Damian

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Re: Stus-List Free 35'

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If you need a overnight dockage at manasquan inlet. Let me know, I'm the 
Commodore at Manasquan River Yacht Club.

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On May 1, 2019 8:51 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List  wrote:
Really, an '82 34' for $6K? Where? Too late, as I just bought the '74 35'... :)

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 4:28 PM jim aridas via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I think this highlights just how soft the auxiliary sail market is. case and 
point.
Still have not found someone to sail/motor away my 1982 34' for 6k
Sad

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mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 4:28:15 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: David Castor
Subject: Re: Stus-List Free 35'

Paid until May 10 I reckon.  Based on the wording, I assume she does not have a 
functional engine.

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 10:21 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
It's a crazy world we live in. I wonder what kind of shape she's in? Is she 
seaworthy and are all the dockfees paid?

On May 1, 2019 at 11:33 AM Robert Gallagher via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

CUT AND PASTE FROM SAILNET.COM<http://SAILNET.COM> forums

Hi all,

I have moved from Manhattan to California, so have decided to give away my 
beautiful 1973 C & C 35 to whomever wants her and will sail her. I can supply 
the most recent survey. Whomever wants her would need to sail her out of 
Liberty Landing Marina by May 10. She sails extremely well. Please let me know 
if seriously interested. To be clear, this is free but you do need be able to 
sail.

Cheers,
Peter
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Re: Stus-List Free 35'

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I think this highlights just how soft the auxiliary sail market is. case and 
point.
Still have not found someone to sail/motor away my 1982 34' for 6k
Sad

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: David Castor
Subject: Re: Stus-List Free 35'

Paid until May 10 I reckon.  Based on the wording, I assume she does not have a 
functional engine.

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 10:21 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
It's a crazy world we live in. I wonder what kind of shape she's in? Is she 
seaworthy and are all the dockfees paid?

On May 1, 2019 at 11:33 AM Robert Gallagher via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

CUT AND PASTE FROM SAILNET.COM forums

Hi all,

I have moved from Manhattan to California, so have decided to give away my 
beautiful 1973 C & C 35 to whomever wants her and will sail her. I can supply 
the most recent survey. Whomever wants her would need to sail her out of 
Liberty Landing Marina by May 10. She sails extremely well. Please let me know 
if seriously interested. To be clear, this is free but you do need be able to 
sail.

Cheers,
Peter
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Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 concerns

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The market for auxiliary sail is SO soft. For 25k you can get a really great 
turn key boat. Most boats are selling for 1/2 of asking price, as per a friend 
who owns a yacht brokerage company out of Central NJ.
Jim
Galaxy 34

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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:28:28 AM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 concerns

Shawn, I agree with Bruce..
Let this one go
If you're retired, then you are already operating on "Life Minutes "
Don't spend them of stuff like this

Ron
Impromptu
C&C 38 MKII
1977.

My boat looks and races like it just came out of the mold.you don't want to 
know how much time and money that takes.



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-Original Message-

From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: 2019-04-24 7:24:48 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 concerns

Hi Shawn,

Realistically,  I think you should walk away  from that boat.  There are just 
too many owner modifications that have not been done by someone who knows what 
they are doing in a marine environment.  Consider finding the right boat, even 
at a distance in the right condition at the right price, even if you have to 
have it trucked to you.  You'll end up spending the equivalent cost to move the 
boat just getting this one in proper shape, and  you'll avoid a lot of 
heartburn.

When we bought our boat, we knew that the fresh water, propane, and charging 
system all had issues, the sail covers desperately needed to be replaced, and 
while kept relatively clean it had basically sat at the dock for years.  
However the boat was basically sound, having had a lot of professional upgrades 
added 8 years earlier.  Two years later, we have a great boat, but our project 
list has now exceeded 200 individual small projects, we're down to 22 short 
term and 15 long term (mostly to be done at haulout).  Yet, last weekend I 
found another where a wire leading out from the battery charger had corroded 
due to poor installation.  That, in turn is driving me to add a 3rd battery to 
the house bank while I'm at it...  And, though I enjoy working on my boat, I'm 
getting a little tired seeing a list with some of the same items still staring 
at me 24 months in.

There's no way I would intentionally buy a boat that I think might need to be 
fully rewired.  Good wire and connectors add up more quickly than you think, 
and that's one of those jobs that will require a LOT gymnastics inside of tight 
places!

Sorry to be the downer here, but you're asking for opinions...

Bruce Whitmore
1994 C&C 37/40+"Astralis "



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Re: Stus-List Last call C&C 34

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Much to my dismay I have no takers on my 1982 34 .
It is amazing what people expect for $6000 that do come out, and the fact that 
there are no takers looking for a sailable boat that needs a little TLC.
If I don't get a taker soon I will be parting out and disposing of the hull. 
Have to believe I will get more than 5k for parts.
Stay tuned. All harken sail handling equipment, st winches, etc.
Boat add can be seen on CL Jersey Shore area.
Jim , Galaxy
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On Apr 18, 2019 11:15 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List  
wrote:
Thanks, John. I like the 34, and it's the only C&C designed by Bruce King, 
whose designs I really like, in addition to Rob Ball and C&C. But there is only 
one near me on the West Coast. It's in Gig Harbour, Wa and the price is a bit 
more than our budget at 30K USD, although with a tiller, it might be a slow 
seller. Beautiful boat, and the tiller wouldn't bother me at all, except the 
cockpit seating is designed for a wheel. I don't know that there is a C&C model 
between 29 and 38 that wouldn't be a good fit; it's just finding one near me at 
a decent price is the problem.

This 1970 35-1 is interesting, and I will take a look if we go to Vancouver to 
see the 29 that is listed at the same broker (not on YW).
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1970/c-c-35-3530795/?refSource=standard%20listing

I understand the 35-1 is lighter with shorter LWL, rates a tiny bit slower, but 
maybe better in light air. The rudder is less effective than the later blade. 
Not sure of other differences aside from minor cosmetics.

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 4:16 AM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi Shawn

Have you considered a C&C34??  Owned ours for 20 years and love it.  Sails like 
a dream.  Easily handled by 2.  Great layout.  Full headroom, enclosed head 
with shower, 3 burner propane stove with oven, large ice box, hot & cold 
pressurized water, full length bunks.  Cruises 4 well including their gear.  No 
generic build or design issues.  There are several on Yachtworld attractively 
priced.  The later hull numbers have a better interior finish (475 built).   Of 
course at this vintage individual condition may vary.
My 2 cents American

John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C&C 34
Noank, CT

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Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

Sounds like an insurance total and check was issued to then owner kept the boat 
minus salvage value.

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From: CnC-List  on behalf of Frederick G Street 
via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 8:54:07 AM
To: David via CnC-List
Cc: Frederick G Street
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

That’s Beau Geste, a hurricane “rescue” boat.  She was sunk, then quickly 
reflected and cleaned out.  The owner is a real d!@k… he was on my dock for 
several years in Bayfield, WI.

If it goes below $30k, I’ll take a look…   🙂

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Dec 5, 2018, at 2:08 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I ran across this listing.  WIll someone please buy this boat to get it off the 
market.  It is listed way too low and is ruining thew 37+ values!

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990/c-c-37-40-3169741/

Tom B

.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom Buscaglia
SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com
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Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

If it's to good to be true it's not.

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Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 4:06:20 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Stephen Thorne; t...@sv-alera.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

Thats a very expensive repair dont properly.  Too bad

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 3:54 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I just got off the phone with the broker.

Here's the story...

She had a bad accident in about year 3 damage the aft 1/4 on the STB side.  The 
deck from the genny track to above the windows on that side are soggy and the 
aft 1/4 of the hull is de-laminated.  He estimates that it will take about $50K 
to repair...

Here's a copy of the survey with all the gruesome details...

https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn%3Aaaid%3Ascds%3AUS%3Add2f7a2f-1ec7-4873-a92f-e346d118de1a

Sad, but true...she sure looks good though.

Tom B

At 12:31 PM 12/5/2018, Ken Heaton wrote:
Holy cow !

I wonder what is wrong with it?

Ken H.

On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 at 16:09, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I ran across this listing.  WIll someone please buy this boat to get it off 
the market.  It is listed way too low and is ruining thew 37+ values!

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990/c-c-37-40-3169741/

Tom B

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Tom Buscaglia
SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
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Stus-List C&C 34'cb 1982

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

I am looking to send my C&C off to a new home.

She has served me well for 10 yrs.

Racing and cruising at the new jersey shore.

Good news very well equipped , set up spin, lewmar self tailers,

harken traveler, hydraulic back stay, newer harken furler.

Bags of sails, new north 135, 2 season old 155.

Nice Cruising 145 dacron with sunbrella. Cushions in storage 10 yrs perfect 
shape,

dodger and bimini

stored for 10 yrs, cockpit cushions in storage, teak cockpit floors unused.

Bad news small hole 2"x5" in the hull port side 2' from stern 6" down from toe 
rail.

Selling as is. Needs some TLC. Boat in water, paid bubbler storage for winter.

Thinking $9000 with all sails, $7000 without the 135 and 155.

Please contact me off line  jarid...@msn.com

Jim

Galaxy hull 453
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Re: Stus-List Cleat covers

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

Been using those for a few yrs.
Jim
Galaxy 34
Brielle nj




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 Original message 
From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
Date: 12/16/16 11:43 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Cleat covers

Get the adjustable ones fro APSLTD--held under cleat with bungee cords and easy 
on and off-~ $35/pair.

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C&C 36 XL/kcb


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-Original Message-
From: Rick Brass via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Rick Brass 
Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2016 9:10 pm
Subject: Stus-List Cleat covers

Has anyone had successful experience using these on a 70s vintage C&C?

http://www.solvingideas.com/Cleat_Info.html

The recent discussion about attaching sheets ( and getting them hung up on the 
baby stay) reminded me about the times my sheets have gotten snagged by the 
cleats on the cabin top near the mast. So I thought I would give myself a set 
of cleat covers for Christmas.

But the cleats on Imzadi (original 8" cleats) look suspiciously like the ones 
shown that are not compatible with the covers.

Rick Brass
Imzadi  C&C 38 mk 2
la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1
Washington, NC

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Re: Stus-List Shark River Inlet, NJ

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

Ryan,

You are welcome to MRYC if you want. Actually , as you know, only about 3 hrs 
from Toms River to MRYC depending on tide in the canal.

Probably makes sense to run one day up to Atlantic Highlands , then next day up 
to SBYC. Shark River is only 5 miles north of Manasquan.

Concern with Shark. If its a snotty day in the ocean you have to wait outside 
the inlet till the bridge opens. Secondly not sure where you would stay

up there? not really spots to anchor I don't think.

Jim



From: CnC-List  on behalf of Ryan Doyle via 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:17 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ryan Doyle
Subject: Re: Stus-List Shark River Inlet, NJ

Andy, Allen, and Jim,

Thanks for the responses and Jim thanks very much for the offer for the 
overnight.  I really might just take you up on that if we do spend the night on 
the Manasquan.

I was asking about Shark River Inlet because I'll just be coming from Toms 
River on my way to NYC.  So, I was hoping to make it further North than 
Manasquan Saturday, and then Sunday do the ocean sail up to the Sheepshead Bay 
Yacht club in Brooklyn where I'll be keeping her for the winter.

I could do it in a straight shot from Toms River, but I've done this trip 
before (in the opposite direction) and splitting it over two days makes it much 
more fun - and allows for more sailing.  When I sailed from Brooklyn to Toms 
River in the spring we overnighted on the Manasquan.

However, it sounds like Shark River inlet is pretty hairy...  What exactly 
makes it hairy?  Breaking waves?  Current?

Ryan
1976 30-1

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Re: Stus-List Shark River Inlet, NJ

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

Chuck,

Small world. My son is a Brielle Police officer and last summer he was the 
marine officer. Not much has changed, railroad bridge still a place of drama, 
and the usual abuse of the no wake zones. One big change however that has taken 
place is the Manasquan Inlet is no longer a no wake zone.

btw I believe the we still  have the whaler you rode around in in 1975! It was 
given to Brielle fire company as a rescue boat.(its tired!)

Jim

Galaxy 34'

Brielle, NJ



From: CnC-List  on behalf of Chuck Gilchrest via 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:02 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest
Subject: Re: Stus-List Shark River Inlet, NJ


Many years back (1975-76), I was the Brielle Police marine officer on Manasquan 
River and managed traffic between the Railroad drawbridge and the Rt 35 bridge 
span.  We had numerous incidents of boats being pinned sideways on the railroad 
bridge by the current when they wouldn’t allow sufficient room to turn around 
as the bridge was closing.  As mentioned, the bridge stays open for the most 
part, but there’s no set time that the bridge closes to marine traffic since it 
is subject to the rail schedule as opposed to a specific “minutes before or 
after the hour”.  It was also common for boats to run aground just east of the 
rail bridge if they tried to cut the channel markers on the wrong side..

All told, it was still a fun summer job during college years..

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 35 LF

Padanaram, MA



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I live a mile from the manasquan inlet and have sailed in and out of it for the 
last 35 yrs. Its no problem on most tides, deeper towards the north jetty. 
There is a cove just inside the inlet that is safe anchorage. In past the 
railway bridge the rt 35 bridge opens on schedule 15 min after and before the 
hour. The manasquan river is shallow out of the channel.

As for shark river inlet. Lived here all my life, been thru it once, scares the 
crap out of me.

Manasquan River Yacht Club in just west of the 35 bridge. I am the Fleet 
Captain there. If you would like to duck in overnight let me know.

Jim

Galaxy 34'

Brielle





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I agree with Andy.  I never entered Shark River because I didn't believe it had 
the vertical clearance.  Used Manasquan many times paying heed to go in on 
slack plus or minus and hour.  Never had a problem:  RR bridge is normally open 
and road bridge, while excruciatingly slow, always answered the call.

Allen Miles

S/V Septima  30-2

Bayville, NJ those days



On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
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I've never been in the Shark River. I've always used Manasquan because it's 
easier and safer. You're right about the currents, but they do run parallel to 
the docks there.

Andy

C&C 40

Peregrine



On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List 
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Hey all,



Wondering if anyone here has transited the Shark River Inlet in NJ recently.  
I'm planning to overnight there on a trip up the coast in a couple weeks.



Having transited the Manasquan inlet and river I know the currents rip through 
there and can be absolutely terrifying... especially in a sailboat when they're 
running full strength in a narrow channel and pushing you towards a closed 
drawbridge - not that that happened to me...  ;)



Anyone know if this is the case with Shark River?



Thanks,

Ryan

1976 30-1



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Re: Stus-List Shark River Inlet, NJ

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I live a mile from the manasquan inlet and have sailed in and out of it for the 
last 35 yrs. Its no problem on most tides, deeper towards the north jetty. 
There is a cove just inside the inlet that is safe anchorage. In past the 
railway bridge the rt 35 bridge opens on schedule 15 min after and before the 
hour. The manasquan river is shallow out of the channel.

As for shark river inlet. Lived here all my life, been thru it once, scares the 
crap out of me.

Manasquan River Yacht Club in just west of the 35 bridge. I am the Fleet 
Captain there. If you would like to duck in overnight let me know.

Jim

Galaxy 34'

Brielle



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Subject: Re: Stus-List Shark River Inlet, NJ

I agree with Andy.  I never entered Shark River because I didn't believe it had 
the vertical clearance.  Used Manasquan many times paying heed to go in on 
slack plus or minus and hour.  Never had a problem:  RR bridge is normally open 
and road bridge, while excruciatingly slow, always answered the call.

Allen Miles
S/V Septima  30-2
Bayville, NJ those days

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I've never been in the Shark River. I've always used Manasquan because it's 
easier and safer. You're right about the currents, but they do run parallel to 
the docks there.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hey all,

Wondering if anyone here has transited the Shark River Inlet in NJ recently.  
I'm planning to overnight there on a trip up the coast in a couple weeks.

Having transited the Manasquan inlet and river I know the currents rip through 
there and can be absolutely terrifying... especially in a sailboat when they're 
running full strength in a narrow channel and pushing you towards a closed 
drawbridge - not that that happened to me...  ;)

Anyone know if this is the case with Shark River?

Thanks,
Ryan
1976 30-1

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Re: Stus-List Dodger windshield cleaner/protector

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

210 is great stuff, requires little effort, spray on, polish with an old soft 
tee shirt, crystal clear results. I use it on my other boat  (the one without 
the mast) JimGalaxy 34Brielle, NJ


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From: Fred Hazzard via CnC-List 
Date: 04/30/2016  11:25 PM  (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Dodger windshield cleaner/protector

My boat neighbor uses Pledge furniture polish.  It looks great.  If he get
scuff marks he power buffs with cleaner wax that has a very fine abrasive.

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C&C 44
Portland, Oregon
On Apr 30, 2016 8:10 PM, "Rick Brass via CnC-List" 
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> Dennis,
>
>
>
> The folks who made my dodger recommend a product called Klear 2 Sea.
>
>
>
> My friends at the local West Marine agree. They recommended  using the
> version in the pump spray bottle. More material than the aerosol for less
> money, and you aren’t paying for propellant. They also said it is
> chemically the same as the Plexus cleaner/polish and less expensive than
> the West Marine version.
>
>
>
> I presume that you already know not to use Windex or similar window
> cleaners. I’m told the ammonia in window cleaners will fog the
> Isinglass/vinyl. Mild soap and water seems desirable, but the
> cleaner/protectants are supposed to have a component that bonds to the
> window material to protect from UV degradations. I suppose it is something
> like the ingredient is Armor ALL.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis
> C. via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 30, 2016 2:18 PM
> *To:* CnClist 
> *Cc:* Dennis C. 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Dodger windshield cleaner/protector
>
>
>
> Touche' got a new windshield last week.  It's a simple quick on/quick off
> thing for deliveries and transits.  It's not the expensive Isinglass stuff
> but the less expensive clear vinyl or whatever.
>
> I have no experience with cleaning/protecting a windshield.  Internet
> research shows plastic cleaner/protectors by Plexus and Camco Armada 210.
>
> Thoughts/recommendations from the list?
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touche' 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Jumper Batteries

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

I will chime in on the mpower it is really amazing. Great to jump vehicles, but 
also very handy when Iforget to plug the boat back in after beer can racing 
tuesday nights, and the refrig kills the battery. Fires my 3gmf right up as 
well. Had it for 2 yrs now. Typically I see these units in the $120 range.As 
with anything I would be a skeptical of units 1/2 the price. The one on amazon 
might be "harbor freight ish"looks like the real thing but doesn't perform that 
way.JimGalaxy 34' Brielle, NJ

Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 09:04:53 -0600
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Jumper Batteries
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Chuck, 
I don't know if you saw this on the other thread.  $50, 15Ah, the size and 
weight of a large-ish hardback book.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GX4Y9AY/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_UwExwbNFB55BK
Josh Muckley

S/V Sea Hawk

1989 C&C 37+

Solomons, MD 
That's amazingly small.  Think I'll get one.

C

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Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 2:40:39 PM
Subject: Stus-List Jumper Batteries

I bought a mPower Jump last winter to replace an old clunky starter pack to 
keep on board Indigo.  Not 100% confident that it would start the diesel 3GMF, 
I charged up the unit at home - used it twice to start my Honda Accord, and 
then without recharging it, used it in May to start the boat with no other 
batteries connected - worked just great on the diesel that had not been run 
since laying up in the winter. 
Specs from their website below!
The mPower Jump. Always With You, Always Ready, Always Easy to Use. Jump starts 
all 12V cars including 8 cylinder vehiclesFits in a glove boxAutomatic On 
TechnologyMultiple safety protectionHigh capacity battery technology600A peak 
currentTechnical Specifications: Input: 12V 1AOutput: 12VJump start Start 
Current: 300APeak Current: 600ASize: 7.09 x 2.76 x 1.38Weight: 1.52 
lbs.Operating Temperature: -20° C-60° C/-4° F-140° FBattery Capacity: 
13000mAhFull Charging Time: Approx 4h
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Re: Stus-List Replacement Holding Tank - 1982 C&C 34

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Here is what I did a few years back, not sure if still available.JimSubject: 
RE: waste holding tanksDate: Thu, 13 May 2010 11:22:27 -0400Just an fyi to the 
group...Replacing my holding tank located under the v berth. was a Nauta 
flexable tank and the ultimate source of my head odors. Tank was a 1991 so 
guess it did its job.Prefer a hard tank and looked at all the typical stock 
units available.Then came across Raritan Engineering. They have a catalog on 
line of about 50 "custom tank molds" Mold #13B102 is a perfect fit, 13 gals. 
They deal directly with the public via the web site for the tank orders, you 
specify the mold #, and fax then a sketch of where and what size connections 
you would like put in.$268 including shipping. Takes 2 1/2 weeks. Actually 
cheaper than the bladder tank replacement would of been.Just figured I would 
share the resource with the group.Yes they are the same company that makes the 
marine heads and HW heaters.JimGalaxy 34'1982
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 11:34:10 -0400
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Replacement Holding Tank - 1982 C&C 34
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I was told 3 way valves are a source of cloggs.  Have an extra tank fitting and 
a marcerator pump for overboard discharge.  It's been 12 troublefree years 
since I installed my tank.   I didn't have a tank before that.

Petar

On Aug 28, 2015 4:42 PM, "Damian Greene via CnC-List"  
wrote:
It looks like I'll need to replace the holding tank on my 1982 C&C 34 - weeping 
crack in the sidewall at the discharge penetration (creating smelly mess in the 
bilge). I could try to get it plastic-welded, but likely the best route for a 
winter project will be to replace the tank, and the hoses & 3-way valve while 
I'm at it. Replacement tanks were discussed some months back, but I'm not 
finding it in the archive. So... Where do I get the tank dimensions (and I will 
confirm when I remove the current tank). Where do I go to purchase a 
replacement tank? I remember a couple of companies were recommended.Ideally 
someone who would have the tank as an off-the shelf item? Thanks, Damian 
Greene1982 C&C 34 GHOSTBass Harbor, Maine   
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Re: Stus-List Island Heights, NJ area Surveyor

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Danny,I might know the boat, sail and work right in toms river.Whats the boat? 
Is it over in Dillons Creek ?JimGalaxy 34' C&C

> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:56:45 -0400
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List Island Heights, NJ area Surveyor
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> CC: bushma...@aol.com
> 
> OK, so what is it?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Aug 23, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
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> > Hi Guys,
> >  
> > So, I just put an offer on a boat in Island Heights, NJ.  I was hoping some 
> > of you might have contacts for a good surveyor in the area.
> >  
> > No, it is not a C&C unfortunately but, a very good pedigree.  Keep you 
> > fingers crossed for me!
> >  
> > Danny
> > Rehoboth, Masachusetts
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Re: Stus-List Best Engine?

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Might as well chime in .My 1982 34' c/b with a 3GMF20 ,martec folding cruises 
the same as Legacy III about 5.5 to 6 max around 3100rpm.When I first got the 
boat and brought it up to NJ from Annapolis she had a 2 blade sailor and 
cruised to 7knots pretty easily.JimGalaxyBrielle, NJ
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 08:16:03 -0400
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Hi Brian,
After seeing Legacy's speed with a 3GM, I feel less bad about our speed.I've 
got a 1978 34 with a 2QM20 and get right around 5.5  with a Mar-Tec folding 
prop, too.I though she was under-powered, but I guess not.  I try not to run 
wide-open, so I can only guess we'd get to 6kts.Good news she sips diesel fuel.
Chuck BC&C 34 ElusiveSomerset, MA
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