Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

2015-08-26 Thread Wally Bryant via CnC-List 

Yes, I installed it in 2001, and have never used it.

Wal


Rich wrote:

Anyone got a strobe at the masthead?



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Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

2015-08-26 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
I would risk a statement that if you get 100% every time, you are either 
extremely well prepared (e.g. just coming off the master’s exam) or have 
extremely good memory. Potentially, you encounter all of those situations 
regularly. For the rest of us, it is more likely to get a result in the 50-80 
range.

Here (a longish lake on a river) I feel lucky (and happy) if all boats 
have_ANY_ lights on after sunset. But we have no commercial traffic; only 
sailboats and pleasure motor boats.

Btw. talking about our lake (and this is C&C related) – the Shark World 
Championships are currently happening here (in the neighbour Club). Close to 40 
Sharks are participating from many clubs in Canada and the US and with two 
crews from Austria and Germany.

Marek
C270 “Legato”
Ottawa, ON

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50% and most were pure guessesinteresting exercise.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.




On 2015-08-24 5:15 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:

  Anybody make 100% on this?

  <http://www.usboating.com/testlights.asp>


  Dennis C.

  Touche' 35-1 #83

  Mandeville, LA


   

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Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

2015-08-26 Thread robert via CnC-List 

50% and most were pure guessesinteresting exercise.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.



On 2015-08-24 5:15 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:

Anybody make 100% on this?



Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


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Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

2015-08-24 Thread svpegasus38 






I suck 46%. 
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA.




-- Original message--From: Danny Haughey via CnC-ListDate: Mon, Aug 24, 
2015 13:39To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Danny Haughey;Subject:Re: Stus-List 
...Now lighting configurations...
66%...

-- Original Message --
From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" >
To: CnClist >
Cc: "Dennis C." >
Subject: Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:15:37 -0500

Anybody make 100% on this?

<http://www.usboating.com/testlights.asp>
 Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

2015-08-24 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List 
I saw a quick flash yellow on a sub up in Norfolk in early 2004 when I bought 
Imzadi. My boat had been berthed behind Willoughby Spit at the marina on the 
Norfolk Navy Base. 

 

I wonder if having a distinct light pattern at all wasn’t the source of a lot 
of discussion in the government. After all, a submarine is all about stealth, 
so why broadcast what you are with a special light pattern?

 

I recall it as quick yellow and on all the time back then, but I think the 
pattern has been changed to three yellow flashes and a pause. Frankly I hope I 
never see one again. The wake from a surfaced submarine is wicked.

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

 

Or you could open a seacock and be a submarine…   :^)

 

I saw a quick-flashing yellow only once, while in Lahaina, Maui returning from 
a night-dive; there was a U.S. Navy sub coming in for shore leave.  Pretty 
distinctive light pattern.


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 

On Aug 24, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

I keep a very quick flashing (90/minute) amber strobe left over from my days in 
the forklift industry on the boat that plugs into a cigarette lighter 
receptacle. So far the only times it has been used are once to mark the boat in 
a crowded anchorage when I would be coming back to it late at night, and to 
mark the boat when it was being used as the RC boat is a couple of night races.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

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Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

2015-08-24 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
Or you could open a seacock and be a submarine…   :^)

I saw a quick-flashing yellow only once, while in Lahaina, Maui returning from 
a night-dive; there was a U.S. Navy sub coming in for shore leave.  Pretty 
distinctive light pattern.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Aug 24, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I keep a very quick flashing (90/minute) amber strobe left over from my days 
> in the forklift industry on the boat that plugs into a cigarette lighter 
> receptacle. So far the only times it has been used are once to mark the boat 
> in a crowded anchorage when I would be coming back to it late at night, and 
> to mark the boat when it was being used as the RC boat is a couple of night 
> races.
>  
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC

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Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

2015-08-24 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List 
I keep a very quick flashing (90/minute) amber strobe left over from my days
in the forklift industry on the boat that plugs into a cigarette lighter
receptacle. So far the only times it has been used are once to mark the boat
in a crowded anchorage when I would be coming back to it late at night, and
to mark the boat when it was being used as the RC boat is a couple of night
races.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

 

Yes.  Strobe, tricolor and anchor along with steaming, deck, spreader and
deck level running.

The boat also came with an anchor ball, motoring cone, radar reflector, man
overboard strobe, Loran C and an EPIRB (1970 version).

Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C&C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair"

On 8/24/2015 2:41 PM, Knowles Rich via CnC-List wrote:

Anyone got a strobe at the masthead?  

 

Rich Knowles

Nanaimo, BC
Boatless!

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Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

2015-08-24 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List 
I only managed 83%. The light patterns for shooting and hauling nets were lost 
in ancient memory, but I swear I did know them when I took the test for my 
Masters license. Did however like the submarine, minesweeper, and semi 
submerged tanks. Those were pretty much gifts.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

 

Anybody make 100% on this?

<http://www.usboating.com/testlights.asp>

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

2015-08-24 Thread schiller via CnC-List 
Yes.  Strobe, tricolor and anchor along with steaming, deck, spreader 
and deck level running.


The boat also came with an anchor ball, motoring cone, radar reflector, 
man overboard strobe, Loran C and an EPIRB (1970 version).


Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C&C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair"

On 8/24/2015 2:41 PM, Knowles Rich via CnC-List wrote:

Anyone got a strobe at the masthead?

Rich Knowles
Nanaimo, BC
Boatless!

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Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

2015-08-24 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
66%...

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Subject: Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:15:37 -0500


Anybody make 100% on this?

<http://www.usboating.com/testlights.asp>
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Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

2015-08-24 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Anybody make 100% on this?



Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

2015-08-24 Thread Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
Strobes are illegal technically even in emergencies. See the COLREGS (Rules 20, 
21, & 36  - Rule 36 Signals to Attract Attention If necessary to attract the 
attention of another vessel, any vessel may make light or sound signals that 
cannot be mistaken for any signal authorized elsewhere in these Rules, or may 
direct the beam of her searchlight in the direction of the danger, in such a 
way as not to embarrass any vessel. Any light to attract the attention of 
another vessel shall be such that it cannot be mistaken for any aid to 
navigation. For the purpose of this Rule the use of high intensity intermittent 
or revolving lights, such as strobe lights, shall be avoided.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 24, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> My original masthead light WAS a strobe.  No solid, no nothing. Screwed up my 
> VHF reception.  Not sure why those were ever used . . .
>  
>  
> Bill Coleman
> C&C 39 Erie PA.
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David 
> Donnelly via CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 3:34 PM
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...
>  
> My anchor light I installed last year has a strobe setting. You control it 
> with on / off sequence of the switch..
>  
> David Donnelly
> C&C 26 Mistress
>  
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Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

2015-08-24 Thread svpegasus38 






My mast head light has a strobe, but it hasn't worked since I put in LEDs. 
My understanding is that it is only for emergency use only. 
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA.




-- Original message--From: Knowles Rich via CnC-ListDate: Mon, Aug 24, 
2015 11:42To: cnc-list Cnc-List;Cc: Knowles Rich;Subject:Re: Stus-List ...Now 
lighting configurations...
Anyone got a strobe at the masthead? 
Rich KnowlesNanaimo, BC
Boatless!





On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:33, David via CnC-List  wrote:
Got it...we are blessed with an elevated level of power and sail expertise up 
here in Buzzards Bay.   

But like you said.   When I head West into LIS.   Whoa.   All light 
configuration bets are off and there is traffic of all sorts...

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:57:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: colt...@verizon.net

Agreed, but for our night races there are never more than a few other boats not 
racing, which would be weekend warriors that I am sure don’t even know anything 
beyond red and green anyways. Very little commercial traffic, not like LIS. But 
you are correct, it is not kosher. I don’t think anyone would be running around 
with anchor lights where you sail, where it could easily be confused with barge 
traffic or whatever.  What really confuses things is when some guys light their 
steaming lights so they can see their teltales.  Bill ColemanC&C 39 Erie, 
PAFrom: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via 
CnC-List
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:27 PM
To: CNC CNC
Cc: David
Subject: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations... I beg to differ.

Anchor light being used to light a windex is confusing and against the regs.   
Windex makes a light for that purpose.

A tricolor (with no deck lights) also lights the windex within the lighting 
regs.

What about boats not in your fleet?

Lights have meaning.

Forgive my push back on this but I have been part of too many situations where 
these seemingly innocent configurations have or could have had consequences.

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:43:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: coltrek@verizon.netWe also use them on Night races to light the Windex. As 
long as you know everyone in the fleet is using them for that purpose it is not 
confusing.  I don’t know what other boats think, but there are usually not too 
many of them. Bill ColemanC&C 39  Erie, PA From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 11:09 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED? some people use 
the anchor light to light the windex.  You can buy a light that sits on top of 
the mast and shines up for that purpose.  I'm waiting for the solar powered 
version! I find it hard to judge distance from boats use a masthead light.  
Maybe that's just me. Joel On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:00 AM, David via CnC-List 
 wrote:Yup, I have seen all color combination to and for 
Bermuda as well...Anchor lights with Tricolor...
Tricolor with deck level nav lights...
Steaming light with tri-color...
Nav lights with no steaming light (when under power)
Wrong. wrong Wrong.  

Very confusing when two fleets encounter each another at 2:00am (which happens 
surprisingly often).


David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:27:57 -0700
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: russ...@telus.net


Exactly right Dennis.

And if motoring, burning three or four lamps is usually not a problem. Hence 
the desire to go LED for a masthead tri-light and the practicality of keeping 
lower lights as incandescent.

You might be astonished at the number of our American cousins who race around 
here at night burning every navigation lamp they can, masthead tri-colour, 
forward steaming, red, green and after steaming light. Very common on the 
overnight races.

Cheers, Russ


At 09:01 PM 22/08/2015, you wrote:If you are motoring, you should not use the 
tricolor at the masthead.  The steaming light must be above the red/green nav 
lights.  Therefore you must use the deck or hull mounted nav lights when 
motoring.

Dennis C.

On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List 
 wrote:Hi Kurt,Not everyone is using a tri-colour at the 
masthead but it is practical in that, when sailing, there is nothing to obscure 
the lower lights and one lamp can draw a lot less power than three or four 
lamps. Note, if you are motoring then you still need the forward steaming 
light, etc. Rule 25 (around page 80)

Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

2015-08-24 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
My original masthead light WAS a strobe.  No solid, no nothing. Screwed up my 
VHF reception.  Not sure why those were ever used . . . 

 

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 Erie PA.

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David 
Donnelly via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 3:34 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: David Donnelly
Subject: Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

 

My anchor light I installed last year has a strobe setting. You control it with 
on / off sequence of the switch..

 

David Donnelly

C&C 26 Mistress

 

 

 

Sent from my Samsung device



 Original message 
From: Knowles Rich via CnC-List  
Date: 08-24-2015 12:41 PM (GMT-07:00) 
To: cnc-list Cnc-List  
Cc: Knowles Rich  
Subject: Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations... 

Anyone got a strobe at the masthead? 

 

Rich Knowles

Nanaimo, BC
Boatless!





 

On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:33, David via CnC-List  wrote:

 

Got it...we are blessed with an elevated level of power and sail expertise up 
here in Buzzards Bay.   

But like you said.   When I head West into LIS.   Whoa.   All light 
configuration bets are off and there is traffic of all sorts...

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)



  _  

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:57:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: colt...@verizon.net

Agreed, but for our night races there are never more than a few other boats not 
racing, which would be weekend warriors that I am sure don’t even know anything 
beyond red and green anyways. Very little commercial traffic, not like LIS. 

But you are correct, it is not kosher. I don’t think anyone would be running 
around with anchor lights where you sail, where it could easily be confused 
with barge traffic or whatever.  What really confuses things is when some guys 
light their steaming lights so they can see their teltales. 

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 Erie, PA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via 
CnC-List
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:27 PM
To: CNC CNC
Cc: David
Subject: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

 

I beg to differ.

Anchor light being used to light a windex is confusing and against the regs.   
Windex makes a light for that purpose.

A tricolor (with no deck lights) also lights the windex within the lighting 
regs.

What about boats not in your fleet?

Lights have meaning.

Forgive my push back on this but I have been part of too many situations where 
these seemingly innocent configurations have or could have had consequences.

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)

  _  

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:43:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: colt...@verizon.net

We also use them on Night races to light the Windex. As long as you know 
everyone in the fleet is using them for that purpose it is not confusing.  I 
don’t know what other boats think, but there are usually not too many of them.

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39  Erie, PA

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 11:09 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

 

some people use the anchor light to light the windex.  You can buy a light that 
sits on top of the mast and shines up for that purpose.  I'm waiting for the 
solar powered version!

 

I find it hard to judge distance from boats use a masthead light.  Maybe that's 
just me.

 

Joel

 

On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:00 AM, David via CnC-List  
wrote:

Yup, I have seen all color combination to and for Bermuda as well...

Anchor lights with Tricolor...
Tricolor with deck level nav lights...
Steaming light with tri-color...
Nav lights with no steaming light (when under power)


Wrong. wrong Wrong.  

Very confusing when two fleets encounter each another at 2:00am (which happens 
surprisingly often).


David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)

  _  

Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:27:57 -0700
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: russ...@telus.net


Exactly right Dennis.

And if motoring, burning three or four lamps is usually not a problem. Hence 
the desire to go LED for a masthead tri-light and the practicality of keeping 
lower lights as incandescent.

You might be astonished at the number of our American cousins who race around 
here at night burning every navigation lamp they can, masthead tri-colour, 
forward steaming, red, green and after steaming light. Very common on the 
overnight races.

Cheers, Russ


At 09:01 PM 22/08/2015, you wrote:

If you are motoring, you should not use the tricolor at the masthead.  The 
steaming light must be above the red/gre

Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

2015-08-24 Thread David Donnelly via CnC-List 


My anchor light I installed last year has a strobe setting. You control it with 
on / off sequence of the switch..
David DonnellyC&C 26 Mistress


Sent from my Samsung device

 Original message 
From: Knowles Rich via CnC-List  
Date: 08-24-2015  12:41 PM  (GMT-07:00) 
To: cnc-list Cnc-List  
Cc: Knowles Rich  
Subject: Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations... 

Anyone got a strobe at the masthead? 

Rich KnowlesNanaimo, BC
Boatless!









On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:33, David via CnC-List  wrote:
Got it...we are blessed with an elevated level of power and sail expertise up 
here in Buzzards Bay.   

But like you said.   When I head West into LIS.   Whoa.   All light 
configuration bets are off and there is traffic of all sorts...

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:57:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: colt...@verizon.net

Agreed, but for our night races there are never more than a few other boats not 
racing, which would be weekend warriors that I am sure don’t even know anything 
beyond red and green anyways. Very little commercial traffic, not like LIS. But 
you are correct, it is not kosher. I don’t think anyone would be running around 
with anchor lights where you sail, where it could easily be confused with barge 
traffic or whatever.  What really confuses things is when some guys light their 
steaming lights so they can see their teltales.  Bill ColemanC&C 39 Erie, 
PAFrom: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via 
CnC-List
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:27 PM
To: CNC CNC
Cc: David
Subject: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations... I beg to differ.

Anchor light being used to light a windex is confusing and against the regs.   
Windex makes a light for that purpose.

A tricolor (with no deck lights) also lights the windex within the lighting 
regs.

What about boats not in your fleet?

Lights have meaning.

Forgive my push back on this but I have been part of too many situations where 
these seemingly innocent configurations have or could have had consequences.

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:43:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: coltrek@verizon.netWe also use them on Night races to light the Windex. As 
long as you know everyone in the fleet is using them for that purpose it is not 
confusing.  I don’t know what other boats think, but there are usually not too 
many of them. Bill ColemanC&C 39  Erie, PA From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 11:09 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED? some people use 
the anchor light to light the windex.  You can buy a light that sits on top of 
the mast and shines up for that purpose.  I'm waiting for the solar powered 
version! I find it hard to judge distance from boats use a masthead light.  
Maybe that's just me. Joel On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:00 AM, David via CnC-List 
 wrote:Yup, I have seen all color combination to and for 
Bermuda as well...Anchor lights with Tricolor...
Tricolor with deck level nav lights...
Steaming light with tri-color...
Nav lights with no steaming light (when under power)
Wrong. wrong Wrong.  

Very confusing when two fleets encounter each another at 2:00am (which happens 
surprisingly often).


David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:27:57 -0700
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: russ...@telus.net


Exactly right Dennis.

And if motoring, burning three or four lamps is usually not a problem. Hence 
the desire to go LED for a masthead tri-light and the practicality of keeping 
lower lights as incandescent.

You might be astonished at the number of our American cousins who race around 
here at night burning every navigation lamp they can, masthead tri-colour, 
forward steaming, red, green and after steaming light. Very common on the 
overnight races.

Cheers, Russ


At 09:01 PM 22/08/2015, you wrote:If you are motoring, you should not use the 
tricolor at the masthead.  The steaming light must be above the red/green nav 
lights.  Therefore you must use the deck or hull mounted nav lights when 
motoring.

Dennis C.

On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List 
 wrote:Hi Kurt,Not everyone is using a tri-colour at the 
masthead but it is practical in that, when sailing, there is nothing to obscure 
the lower lights and one lamp can draw a lot less power than three or four 
lamps. Note, if you are motoring then you still need the forward steaming 
light, etc. Rule 25 (around page 80) i

Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

2015-08-24 Thread Knowles Rich via CnC-List 
Anyone got a strobe at the masthead? 

Rich Knowles
Nanaimo, BC
Boatless!





On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:33, David via CnC-List  wrote:

Got it...we are blessed with an elevated level of power and sail expertise up 
here in Buzzards Bay.   

But like you said.   When I head West into LIS.   Whoa.   All light 
configuration bets are off and there is traffic of all sorts...

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:57:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
CC: colt...@verizon.net <mailto:colt...@verizon.net>

Agreed, but for our night races there are never more than a few other boats not 
racing, which would be weekend warriors that I am sure don’t even know anything 
beyond red and green anyways. Very little commercial traffic, not like LIS. 
But you are correct, it is not kosher. I don’t think anyone would be running 
around with anchor lights where you sail, where it could easily be confused 
with barge traffic or whatever.  What really confuses things is when some guys 
light their steaming lights so they can see their teltales. 
 
Bill Coleman
C&C 39 Erie, PA
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of David via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:27 PM
To: CNC CNC
Cc: David
Subject: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...
 
I beg to differ.

Anchor light being used to light a windex is confusing and against the regs.   
Windex makes a light for that purpose.

A tricolor (with no deck lights) also lights the windex within the lighting 
regs.

What about boats not in your fleet?

Lights have meaning.

Forgive my push back on this but I have been part of too many situations where 
these seemingly innocent configurations have or could have had consequences.

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:43:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
CC: colt...@verizon.net <mailto:colt...@verizon.net>
We also use them on Night races to light the Windex. As long as you know 
everyone in the fleet is using them for that purpose it is not confusing.  I 
don’t know what other boats think, but there are usually not too many of them.
 
Bill Coleman
C&C 39  Erie, PA
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 11:09 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
 
some people use the anchor light to light the windex.  You can buy a light that 
sits on top of the mast and shines up for that purpose.  I'm waiting for the 
solar powered version!
 
I find it hard to judge distance from boats use a masthead light.  Maybe that's 
just me.
 
Joel
 
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:00 AM, David via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Yup, I have seen all color combination to and for Bermuda as well...
Anchor lights with Tricolor...
Tricolor with deck level nav lights...
Steaming light with tri-color...
Nav lights with no steaming light (when under power)

Wrong. wrong Wrong.  

Very confusing when two fleets encounter each another at 2:00am (which happens 
surprisingly often).


David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:27:57 -0700
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
CC: russ...@telus.net <mailto:russ...@telus.net>


Exactly right Dennis.

And if motoring, burning three or four lamps is usually not a problem. Hence 
the desire to go LED for a masthead tri-light and the practicality of keeping 
lower lights as incandescent.

You might be astonished at the number of our American cousins who race around 
here at night burning every navigation lamp they can, masthead tri-colour, 
forward steaming, red, green and after steaming light. Very common on the 
overnight races.

Cheers, Russ


At 09:01 PM 22/08/2015, you wrote:
If you are motoring, you should not use the tricolor at the masthead.  The 
steaming light must be above the red/green nav lights.  Therefore you must use 
the deck or hull mounted nav lights when motoring.

Dennis C.

On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi Kurt,
Not everyone is using a tri-colour at the masthead but it is practical in that, 
when sailing, there is nothing to obscure the lower lights and one lamp can 
draw a lot less power than

Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

2015-08-24 Thread David via CnC-List 
Got it...we are blessed with an elevated level of power and sail expertise up 
here in Buzzards Bay.   

But like you said.   When I head West into LIS.   Whoa.   All light 
configuration bets are off and there is traffic of all sorts...

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:57:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: colt...@verizon.net















Agreed, but for our night races there are never more than a few
other boats not racing, which would be weekend warriors that I am sure don’t
even know anything beyond red and green anyways. Very little commercial
traffic, not like LIS. 



But you are correct, it is not kosher. I don’t think anyone
would be running around with anchor lights where you sail, where it could easily
be confused with barge traffic or whatever.  What really confuses things is
when some guys light their steaming lights so they can see their teltales. 

 

Bill Coleman



C&C 39 Erie, PA





From: CnC-List
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via CnC-List

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:27 PM

To: CNC CNC

Cc: David

Subject: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...





 



I
beg to differ.



Anchor light being used to light a windex is confusing and against the
regs.   Windex makes a light for that purpose.



A tricolor (with no deck lights) also lights the windex within the lighting
regs.



What about boats not in your fleet?



Lights have meaning.



Forgive my push back on this but I have been part of too many situations where
these seemingly innocent configurations have or could have had consequences.



David F. Risch

1981 40-2

(401) 419-4650 (cell)













To:
cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:43:52 -0400

Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

CC: colt...@verizon.net



We also use them on Night races to light the Windex. As long as
you know everyone in the fleet is using them for that purpose it is not
confusing.  I don’t know what other boats think, but there are usually not
too many of them.

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39  Erie, PA

 



From: CnC-List
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via
CnC-List

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 11:09 AM

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Cc: Joel Aronson

Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?



 



some people
use the anchor light to light the windex.  You can buy a light that sits
on top of the mast and shines up for that purpose.  I'm waiting for the
solar powered version!



 





I find it
hard to judge distance from boats use a masthead light.  Maybe that's just
me.





 





Joel







 



On Mon, Aug
24, 2015 at 11:00 AM, David via CnC-List 
wrote:





Yup, I have
seen all color combination to and for Bermuda as well...

Anchor
lights with Tricolor...

Tricolor with deck level nav lights...

Steaming light with tri-color...

Nav lights with no steaming light (when under power)



Wrong. wrong Wrong.  



Very confusing when two fleets encounter each another at 2:00am (which happens
surprisingly often).





David F. Risch

(401) 419-4650 (cell)









Date: Sat,
22 Aug 2015 22:27:57 -0700

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

CC: russ...@telus.net





Exactly right Dennis.



And if motoring, burning three or four lamps is usually not a problem. Hence the
desire to go LED for a masthead tri-light and the practicality of keeping lower
lights as incandescent.



You might be astonished at the number of our American cousins who race around
here at night burning every navigation lamp they can, masthead tri-colour,
forward steaming, red, green and after steaming light. Very common on the
overnight races.



Cheers, Russ





At 09:01 PM 22/08/2015, you wrote:

If you are
motoring, you should not use the tricolor at the masthead.  The steaming
light must be above the red/green nav lights.  Therefore you must use the
deck or hull mounted nav lights when motoring.



Dennis C.



On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List 

wrote:

Hi Kurt,

Not
everyone is using a tri-colour at the masthead but it is practical in that,
when sailing, there is nothing to obscure the lower lights and one lamp can
draw a lot less power than three or four lamps. 

Note, if
you are motoring then you still need the forward steaming light, etc. 

Rule 25
(around page 80) if you're interested. 

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pdf/navrules/navrules.pdf







     Â
   Cheers, Russ

Â
       Sweet 35-1

At 04:50 PM
22/08/2015, you wrote:

Is
there a reason every one is using tri colors at the mast head? Is this in
addition to the regular side lights and stern light

From:
Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List ; 

To: ; 

Cc:
Jean-Francois J

Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

2015-08-24 Thread S Thomas via CnC-List 
There was a boat at Brown's dock in Bimini last year with a mast top light that 
was constantly changing colour, like some kind of Christmas decoration. I don't 
know if he used it under way or not, and I chose not to raise the subject, but 
it sure looked weird. 

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
Port Stanley, ON
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Bill Coleman 
  Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 13:57
  Subject: Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...


  Agreed, but for our night races there are never more than a few other boats 
not racing, which would be weekend warriors that I am sure don’t even know 
anything beyond red and green anyways. Very little commercial traffic, not like 
LIS. 

  But you are correct, it is not kosher. I don’t think anyone would be running 
around with anchor lights where you sail, where it could easily be confused 
with barge traffic or whatever.  What really confuses things is when some guys 
light their steaming lights so they can see their teltales. 

   

  Bill Coleman

  C&C 39 Erie, PA

  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via 
CnC-List
  Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:27 PM
  To: CNC CNC
  Cc: David
  Subject: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

   

  I beg to differ.

  Anchor light being used to light a windex is confusing and against the regs.  
 Windex makes a light for that purpose.

  A tricolor (with no deck lights) also lights the windex within the lighting 
regs.

  What about boats not in your fleet?

  Lights have meaning.

  Forgive my push back on this but I have been part of too many situations 
where these seemingly innocent configurations have or could have had 
consequences.

  David F. Risch
  1981 40-2
  (401) 419-4650 (cell)




--

  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:43:52 -0400
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
  From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  CC: colt...@verizon.net

  We also use them on Night races to light the Windex. As long as you know 
everyone in the fleet is using them for that purpose it is not confusing.  I 
don’t know what other boats think, but there are usually not too many of them.

   

  Bill Coleman

  C&C 39  Erie, PA

   

  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel 
Aronson via CnC-List
  Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 11:09 AM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: Joel Aronson
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

   

  some people use the anchor light to light the windex.  You can buy a light 
that sits on top of the mast and shines up for that purpose.  I'm waiting for 
the solar powered version!

   

  I find it hard to judge distance from boats use a masthead light.  Maybe 
that's just me.

   

  Joel

   

  On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:00 AM, David via CnC-List  
wrote:

  Yup, I have seen all color combination to and for Bermuda as well...

  Anchor lights with Tricolor...
  Tricolor with deck level nav lights...
  Steaming light with tri-color...
  Nav lights with no steaming light (when under power)


  Wrong. wrong Wrong.  

  Very confusing when two fleets encounter each another at 2:00am (which 
happens surprisingly often).


  David F. Risch
  (401) 419-4650 (cell)


--

  Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:27:57 -0700
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
  From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  CC: russ...@telus.net


  Exactly right Dennis.

  And if motoring, burning three or four lamps is usually not a problem. Hence 
the desire to go LED for a masthead tri-light and the practicality of keeping 
lower lights as incandescent.

  You might be astonished at the number of our American cousins who race around 
here at night burning every navigation lamp they can, masthead tri-colour, 
forward steaming, red, green and after steaming light. Very common on the 
overnight races.

  Cheers, Russ
  

  At 09:01 PM 22/08/2015, you wrote:

  If you are motoring, you should not use the tricolor at the masthead.  The 
steaming light must be above the red/green nav lights.  Therefore you must use 
the deck or hull mounted nav lights when motoring.

  Dennis C.

  On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  Hi Kurt,

  Not everyone is using a tri-colour at the masthead but it is practical in 
that, when sailing, there is nothing to obscure the lower lights and one lamp 
can draw a lot less power than three or four lamps. 

  Note, if you are motoring then you still need the forward steaming light, 
etc. 

  Rule 25 (around page 80) if you're interested. 

  http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pdf/navrules/navrules.pdf


_

Re: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

2015-08-24 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
Agreed, but for our night races there are never more than a few other boats not 
racing, which would be weekend warriors that I am sure don’t even know anything 
beyond red and green anyways. Very little commercial traffic, not like LIS. 

But you are correct, it is not kosher. I don’t think anyone would be running 
around with anchor lights where you sail, where it could easily be confused 
with barge traffic or whatever.  What really confuses things is when some guys 
light their steaming lights so they can see their teltales. 

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 Erie, PA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via 
CnC-List
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:27 PM
To: CNC CNC
Cc: David
Subject: Stus-List ...Now lighting configurations...

 

I beg to differ.

Anchor light being used to light a windex is confusing and against the regs.   
Windex makes a light for that purpose.

A tricolor (with no deck lights) also lights the windex within the lighting 
regs.

What about boats not in your fleet?

Lights have meaning.

Forgive my push back on this but I have been part of too many situations where 
these seemingly innocent configurations have or could have had consequences.

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)



  _  

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:43:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: colt...@verizon.net

We also use them on Night races to light the Windex. As long as you know 
everyone in the fleet is using them for that purpose it is not confusing.  I 
don’t know what other boats think, but there are usually not too many of them.

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39  Erie, PA

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 11:09 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

 

some people use the anchor light to light the windex.  You can buy a light that 
sits on top of the mast and shines up for that purpose.  I'm waiting for the 
solar powered version!

 

I find it hard to judge distance from boats use a masthead light.  Maybe that's 
just me.

 

Joel

 

On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:00 AM, David via CnC-List  
wrote:

Yup, I have seen all color combination to and for Bermuda as well...

Anchor lights with Tricolor...
Tricolor with deck level nav lights...
Steaming light with tri-color...
Nav lights with no steaming light (when under power)


Wrong. wrong Wrong.  

Very confusing when two fleets encounter each another at 2:00am (which happens 
surprisingly often).


David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)

  _  

Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:27:57 -0700
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: russ...@telus.net


Exactly right Dennis.

And if motoring, burning three or four lamps is usually not a problem. Hence 
the desire to go LED for a masthead tri-light and the practicality of keeping 
lower lights as incandescent.

You might be astonished at the number of our American cousins who race around 
here at night burning every navigation lamp they can, masthead tri-colour, 
forward steaming, red, green and after steaming light. Very common on the 
overnight races.

Cheers, Russ


At 09:01 PM 22/08/2015, you wrote:

If you are motoring, you should not use the tricolor at the masthead.  The 
steaming light must be above the red/green nav lights.  Therefore you must use 
the deck or hull mounted nav lights when motoring.

Dennis C.

On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hi Kurt,

Not everyone is using a tri-colour at the masthead but it is practical in that, 
when sailing, there is nothing to obscure the lower lights and one lamp can 
draw a lot less power than three or four lamps. 

Note, if you are motoring then you still need the forward steaming light, etc. 

Rule 25 (around page 80) if you're interested. 

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pdf/navrules/navrules.pdf




         Cheers, Russ

        Sweet 35-1

At 04:50 PM 22/08/2015, you wrote:

Is there a reason every one is using tri colors at the mast head? Is this in 
addition to the regular side lights and stern light

From: Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List ; 

To: ; 

Cc: Jean-Francois J Rivard ; ; 

Subject: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED? 

Sent: Sat, Aug 22, 2015 5:10:19 PM 

Hello Alex, 

I am replacing the cabin lights with this one from Marinebeam:  
 
http://store.marinebeam.com/bayonet-ba15s-15-led-bayonet-mini-tower/ It̢۪s 
just bright enough.  I tried the 18 and 2d 21 led models too.  They’re a 
bit much.. The 18 is googood as a reading light, the 21 is the master blaster 
at the chart table. 

My sternlight burned-out about a month ago.   I d